Invincible (and death of the Snyderverse) - The Weekly Planet Podcast

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Great stuff and welcome. This week we review the first three episodes of Invincible! Plus bad news for Zack Snyder fans, more delays but a definitive release date for Black Widow, the first The Suicide Squad trailer, Transformers trundles along, Ghost Of Tsushima gets a movie, so much DC news along with the of a comedy legend, Jessica Walter. Thanks for watching!
Bonus Invincible Comic Review - Booque Clubbe
Do Go On Podcast with Maso - The Maze Prison Escape
Prime Mates Live Show with Maso - More Info and Tickets
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00:00 The Start
05:39 Jessica Walter RIP
06:56 Delays But Don’t Dismays
11:06 We Definitely Stop Doing Becker Audio Drops
12:06 The Suicide Squad Trailer
16:44 Transformers Spin-Off
18:16 Ghost of Tsushima Movie
25:26 DC Movie News Bonanza
26:21 I Can’t Believe They’ve Done This
34:05 Restore the Snyderverse
38:09 Invincible Review (TV Series but Non-Comic Spoilers 47:14)
54:50 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read
01:03:14 Letters, It’s Time For Letters
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[@lemonferret]

*All 12 times they play the theme to Becker:* 7:08 - Maso says he's going to play a sea-shanty themed Delays But Not Dismays intro, then plays Becker. 9:31 - Maso says that he remembers the "haunting melody of the mandolin itself", then plays Becker. 11:01 - Maso asks Dave Warneke what he thinks about the movie Murder on the Orient Express. Dave's "response" is the Becker theme. 11:57 - James and Maso improvise an a cappella version when Maso is sending a message and can't play Becker. 26:21 - Maso inexplicably plays Becker after saying "James has had it with crypto!" 38:58 - James says he's going to rattle off a list of names of cast members of Invincible, then plays Becker. It continues to play as he lists them off. 54:51 - James says he's going to play the theme song for What We Reading, What We Gonna Read. Guess what Maso plays instead? (Hint: It's Becker). Also Westworld. 1:02:48 - Maso says that a woman James was talking about is behind him. You'll never guess what music plays as he's saying it! 1:17:02 - James plays the first audio message in the Letters segment, except it's not an audio message. Instead, it's-plot twist-the Becker intro. 1:17:28 - They improvise another a cappella version of the Becker theme while James downloads the audio message file. 1:24:10 - And one more Becker to end off the show. 1:24:24 - I lied.

[@pomaimoikeha829]

Lol i love Becker

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Thank you so much 😂

[@jasonforbes3698]

When James said "Westworld" over the Becker theme. That got me.

[@Drawnartist]

Hilarious

[@charlesgrimmer6486]

It's been 2 days and I still can't stop thinking about how episode 1 ended.... I knew what I was getting into, and I still didn't know what I was getting into.

[@Danicx11]

I hadn't seen any trailers, knew nothing about the show. Literally went in thinking it was a big family fun time. Was very surprised to find out it wasn't a kids show.

[@Drawnartist]

Hey guys thanks for the podcasts james is still at 40% percent hey man if u need a break you deserve it

[@oops6876]

Yeah man, a break from the kids would do wonders

[@joebiologyuni]

But not Mason. Get your sh*t together, Maseaux!😛

[@Gojeto346]

the desperation in red rush’s eyes as omniman crushes his face was really somethin

[@peterparkercomix729]

Shit was heavy!

[@BrianFillups]

I was mildly traumatized. Especially when his punches turned into broken hands and his wrists went limp. 😬

[@Schwietz83]

and the punching untill his hands are broken.

[@Gojeto346]

@@Schwietz83 the whole scene was handled so masterfully, you really feel the weight of it all

[@ShatteredTrousers]

Especially after he just got through telling the audience, I mean telling Olga, how even the briefest interaction feels like an eternity for him. I shudder to think about how many hours Red Rush spent having the life crushed out of him by Omniman.

[@bradleyhill5312]

Can't believe that I find out about Jessica Walters passing like this...listening to two australian lads put a smile on my face, waiting to hear you tackle Invincible! RIP Jessica Walters.

[@ciarantuckey2014]

I know right ! Genuinely shocked

[@TheCuteMistake]

I loved her in Archer, it's so crazy to hear that she's gone.

[@brandon0akley]

Jessica Walter also played the villain in the 1978 Dr Strange TV movie (Morgan Le Fay).

[@Meme_Lor]

@@brandon0akley when Dr Strange: MoM is released they should do that for Caravan of Garbage

[@pomaimoikeha829]

Me too days later. I but damn im heartbroken

[@colinflynn3140]

My first day truly off in months, too. Catching this as it drops for the first time. Thanks guys, from the homeland of Domhnall Gleeson - not the UK.

[@TheLegoJungle]

Your parents have lied to you.

[@Drankeranker]

I really liked the start of Invincible, it shows the heroes prioritizing helping civilians, that short scene with Darkwing almost losing his life for saving someone made me cheer for him more then I ever have for Snyders Batman. This was also a bit more serious take on the gaurdians of the globe then in the comic where they are mostly just a flat parody.

[@10JudgeP]

My interpretation is not that they depowered omniman, it's that they powered up the guardians of the globe

[@IATDOA]

yeah, and i'm guessing something about their use of teamwork is some sort of foreshadowing to how he'll be defeated, since he refuses to work with others while they worked together and still beat him half to death despite still losing.

[@Lordalexzader]

Pretty sure he could have just murdered them instantly but needed plausible deniability and so let them damage him enough that it would seem as though he was also a victim of the attack. I could be wrong but that was the impression that I got.

[@ArchieMcGeoch]

The characters that die in Suicide Squad will be every one James miss pronounces.

[@TheCuteMistake]

How will his Mr Pronounces be represented then?

[@c.h1579]

@@TheCuteMistake probably as alive if miss pronounces is dead

[@jussts]

They don't stand a chance...

[@JNFattorini]

For operating at 40%, you're both on top of it as usual. Thank you for narrating my Monday mornings for years.

[@J.O.R.D]

“Your wife’s getting remarried” 😂 I could listen to you two all day and just blank my insignificant life atm 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@LaughtersHouse]

Really enjoyed Invincible. Hadn't heard of it till this past weekend. The attack from Omniman was a shocker. Glad I experienced it raw.

[@dungeonsdudesdragons]

Every time James says "It's entirely possible" I get flashes of Joe Rogan.

[@yourenosey7604]

I think he does it on purpose now

[@dungeonsdudesdragons]

@@yourenosey7604 Absolutely. It's like "Westworld". Every time I hear it, it just makes me chuckle. hahaha

[@samduddington2886]

R.I.P Jessica Walter/Malory Archer, I was actually torn up about this one! Really nice segment guys. Well done.

[@COLINHILLSWIMS]

Invincibles is so bloody good! Absolutely loved it.

[@AlBroMedia]

Bloody! ;)

[@Qterio]

Another episode of two men slowly losing their minds.

[@chrislee3601]

* two mates

[@PittsburghSonido]

@@chrislee3601 Looze*

[@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight]

Need to tighten up those minds

[@t.g.hyperlibrarysciencestu9095]

As someone who operates at 40% without kids this scares me.

[@aidanrogers4438]

I remember when Snyder’s version of Justice League was announced there was some trepidation from some people about it, due to the growing fact it looked like fans had basically bullied WB into giving them what they want. Whether or not it’s true, it made it look like WB folded to intense fan pressure, which isn’t always the best thing. Now Snyder’s hardcore fanboys got what they wanted, I can see them thinking they can just do the same thing on twitter and get what they want, which in this case is now the perceived ‘Snyderverse’ that the DCEU was originally going to be.

[@chrissadler6459]

Lol .. Warner Brothers bullied? You can't give credit to this small group of people demanding something, there was a lot of factors in the doing what WB did with the Snyder cut... A major company getting bullied 😂 GTFO 🤣

[@wisewolftony]

@@chrissadler6459 I find it all stupid anyways that fans think they should just give him full control over the DCEU. That would be the dumbest thing ever. Last thing I want is for him to have like full control and every movie and for them to look and feel the same way. Because pretty much all of Snyder's films are that. Which is the last thing I want out of any comic book movie universe. What I want is for different people to make these films so that they all have a different feel and look to them. Because that is what comic books are all about. You have countless different writers and artists making them to give them all a different look to them. No way do I Snyder to have the final say in everything. And I'm sure if that happened it would only be a matter of time before fans got sick of it and decided to change their minds and no longer want him in control of it.

[@arch1017]

@@wisewolftony I don't think that's what fans want - from what I've seen online, most just want to see the concluding parts of his Justice League story. And maybe a Batfleck TV series or mini-movie picking up on the Deathstroke stuff. They don't want Snyder to run the DCEU. That's why a lot of the fans are frustrated that WB are constantly going on about the DC Multiverse, but have completely shut down on any continuation on the part they actually like.

[@RynAwara]

@@arch1017 the only issue is that just the conclusion of his justice league would mean a ~$500 million (without marketing expenses) investment for the two intended films, for a series that showed diminishing returns and declining mainstream interest. There is hardcore fans, but they're hardly enough to justify the production of those movies when the previous ones (MoS, BvS) have failed to pass $800m at the box office Edited to add detail about marketing expenses

[@dg4935]

Love Love Love the idea that Martian Manhunter in Snyderverse is actually EVERY character just like Roger in American Dad lmao

[@rev-ilojikai]

Mason was right about Nathan Fillion being Arm Fall Off Boy

[@godconvoy]

James: Will Peirce Brosnan wear a suit? Is he above that? Meanwhile Peirce Brosnan in Percy Jackson.... freaking horseman with crazy long flowing hair.

[@crashstarr6531]

You guys are great! Was not expecting to hear thoughtslime name dropped here but love them too! I also enjoyed your rant about the resilience lady, and would enjoy more of that kind of talk here!

[@jordanwhite1010]

I totally overlooked this show and then my 5 year old son was watching the first episode. Since then my favorite show and he has nightmares. Good times!!!

[@HermanFalckHow]

The Snyder Verse is over. I'll definitely admit that it did create more buzz than I imagined from casual fans. But it still isn't nearly enough for them to change gears considering what they're doing now is way more successful for them. Aquaman was huge, The Batman has a ton of hype around it, even Joker made like a ton of money.

[@mrsuperwill1]

They could do the standalone films like joker and the new Batman and have the snyderverse as well. Their profits from joker and aquaman is surely enough to fund it all.

[@RynAwara]

@@mrsuperwill1 why should those movies support a higher budgeted film that may or may not perform at the box office. If the Snyder fans loved the project so much they all would've signed to HBO Max and shut off every attempt at leaking stuff on KZbin. Yet, KZbin leaks of the best bits and free trials was their way

[@yashabreslove8276]

If I may be so bold, this may be your greatest work. I think this is the most enjoyable episode in a very long time (though you guys are always great), and has made cleaning house much more tolerable. Thanks James and Maso! #punchforabitandnowyouremates

[@quezzi]

That guitar riff got me dying 😂 yall might be the podcast goats

[@sternonisoil]

At least one of them is

[@ahmetkurum4114]

When he killed them İt simultaneously blew my fucking mind and hook me to the show. That being said, that will not help the show separate itself from The Boys.

[@AndrewWright1998]

Samuel L Jackson roles would make an incredible Suicide Squad: Jules Winnfield, Mace Windu, Nick Furry, etc.

[@jonathonperez8281]

1000% frozone

[@aarong6382]

Glad you are giving Toy Galaxy the credit it deserves. He is very entertaining and does a great job researching the content. Fits right along with you guys.

[@tyronefisher2259]

James talking about his kids is my new favourite part of the show - I recently got married, so I appreciate that kind of thing more and more.

[@chivasowle286]

I had a weird sense of dread on the first episode where I kept expecting the other shoe to fall. I was still shocked by how violent and gory it was. Really good stuff.

[@Gojeto346]

Also personally I picked up on something being up with Omniman, because he teases Mark for not having his powers yet and Mark seems all sad he doesn’t have any but then when Mark does get his powers he seems distanced and almost sad, his wife who’s name I forget has to kick him under the table so he will sound more happy for Mark getting his powers, he also says somewhere that him actually getting his powers changes everything now, so I didn’t know what was gonna happen but I did feel like something was up

[@quezzi]

I think he wants to conquer earth judging how he said “Earth isnt YOURS to conquer” to the Flaxxans. Maybe because Mark gets his powers so late he’s become more human than Viltrumite and wont be too excited to help his dad take over the world.

[@Trefox87]

It definitely seemed like the Dad was not as happy as everyone likely expected him to be since prior to the reveal it seemed like he always talked about being a hero like it was the greatest thing ever, likely the reason Mark was so adamant to be a hero to and take the punches. Like, after Mark got his powers, Omni-man seems to always talk about being a hero from a job perspective, talking about needing to be able to deal with the difficult stuff, but seeming to be more talking about repressing feelings about the people Mark couldn't save and stuff like that, especially compared to Eve pointing out instead focusing on who you could save. But, that could also be tied to having done hero work for so long, as well as working with Cecil and the government for so long, rather than whatever other stuff is going on with him.

[@brandonolsen579]

Biggest plot hole in all of Invincible is that Allen the Alan works for the Coalition of Planets, which defends planets from Viltrumites, yet he doesn’t recognize Omni-Man as a Viltrumite in their previous encounters despite him rocking the characteristic silly Viltrumite mustache.

[@AH-yn6ip]

That Martian Manhunter question. Legendary.

[@Neontaster]

I watched it knowing it was violent but having NO CLUE what was about to happen. Had one of the biggest reactions I've had to a twist in a long time. That feeling where your hands are clapped over your mouth that is just so hard to replicate because you really need to be totally unprepared for it.

[@smacksalad]

I'm only aware of Invincible being a thing because of this podcast (and its obscene theme), and I'm thoroughly enjoying Invincible. Thanks guys!

[@transroller12]

I didn’t know much about the Invincible going in, but the whole time I was watching the first episode there was this tension building for sure. I’m not sure it was just JK Simmons voice performance, but I really dug it.

[@Chalepastel]

i'm gonna be hearing that sick blues riff in my head forever now

[@make.and.believe]

Just saw Walters guest star on our retro rewatch of Murder She Wrote. Amazing talent.

[@KirbySans]

I loved that off air conversation

[@s1ckboirari]

I went in not knowing the twist of Invincible and i was so blown away i was watching with my missus just kinda taking jabs at how they had such obvious justice league rip offs and kinda on board because i loved the voice cast but still wondering why it was such a big deal and why she loved the comic so much and when it hit I had so much dopamine it was so well done and the fact they held back on the violence before made it so much better

[@AlBroMedia]

Thanks for introducing Invincible to me! I just watched episode 1.... holy shit.

[@owenconway3556]

I went in knowing it was going to have a good bit of gore but I had no idea it was going to get like it did at the end of the season 1. My jaw was on the floor the whole time. After the third episode ended I started the comic and finished the entire comic series in a week. It was great.

[@rrrrr7782]

my fav cinema memory is the guy 2 rows in front who was filming the entirety of James Cameron’s Avatar on his phone while repeating every single line of dialogue, then got up to use the restroom (in the entrance hall to the theatre room, while still filming). security was alerted and he was arrested as soon has he stepped foot outside of the theatre room.

[@LiamPhillips7]

I literally had no idea of what I was getting into for Invincible and I cannot stop thinking about the ending of episode 1. Omni-Man gives off Homelander vibes and I love it

[@LBpivot666]

'The Joker but 101 Dalmatians' Hahahahahahahaha

[@whitehawk3776]

That Becker/ west world remix was gold

[@bojack9887]

I had never read Invincible, nor did I know much about the actual story, but yeah, I definitely was not expecting that turn. It was absolutely incredible, but it came out of nowhere for me lol

[@bobsandwich3431]

The comic pulled it off really well but I dunno how well the show will handle the fact that he killed them all because they made fun of him when he walked out of the bathroom with toilet paper stuck to his shoe

[@mythicalmining7999]

i'm helping the algorithm boost the best pod on earth

[@ryvaleska]

Same

[@jhkomar5478]

I had no clue the twist was coming in invincible. Jaw. Dropped.

[@willo8118]

yes, love it. love the the new Westworld intro

[@RandomMan_1]

Holy crap. Super into the new sfx.

[@Drawnartist]

Man the suicide squad trailer was amazing I loved seeing Starro that's freaking badass i feel like the Thinker is gonna betray the squad and be a villain like Enchantress was. the scene were most the squad is threatening him kinda seems to support this theory

[@tommyjoewagner7780]

Get outta here bro, how do you know?!

[@chrissadler6459]

They are all villains?

[@blyzer7373]

I thought it kinda looked like shit...

[@Drawnartist]

@@chrissadler6459 I feel like thinker will outsmart Waller deactivate his bomb and become a bad guy the squad has to defeat maybe he frees Starro from his prison or something

[@Drawnartist]

@@blyzer7373 really!? Wow that's surprising what do you consider good then?? Haha that trailer was fun

[@AndorRobotnik]

I want 20 more minutes of James ranting about mundane struggles he has as a snowflake dad because I agree with him 100%

[@michaelbender8410]

I really enjoyed Invincible, I had an idea what I was in for because Kirkman was on Fatman Beyond a couple days before the premiere. Really solid.

[@Hambone4815]

Thanks for including my jimmy Barnes joke

[@TheTheDontae]

Great now I’ll have to find there comic books podcast

[@edakra369]

I went into the 3 episodes of Invincible well aware of what was to come thanks to a friend who's a fan of the series who spoiled everything before there was even any talk of an animated series. I got him back though since I got the screener for it last month.

[@DylanWintersteen]

The drop at 39: got me

[@matpower755]

My favourite Cinema moment; at the end of Quantum of Solace (the bond film) some guy just stood up and said “so what the fuck is a Quantum of Solace?!”

[@RandomMan_1]

Wow. Never been this early! Any tips on starting a podcast?

[@peterparkercomix729]

Invincible has been so bloody good, so far!!! 👍🤘

[@Drawnartist]

I love the new theme for what we gonna read? Haha

[@afluffywhitekitty8589]

Heyy, I worked on this show. I was a background painter, one of the more memorable shots I did is of the wide shot of the .... the big room, whatever it's called, at the end of the first episode with their brains splattered all over the place. It was a super fun gig

[@boccci]

I've been avoiding all comic spoilers, as tempting as it is (with all the Disney+ stuff I made a habit of watching a billion theory videos), but I did know that there was gonna be a shitload of gratuitous violence. I did not *know* Omniman was evil - but at this point it feels a given that the most powerful guy is a bad dude - that being said the line that fully convinced me was the "we travel out to worlds to be its *only* protector".

[@smacksalad]

I hope you guys cover Nobody, the Bob Odenkirk movie, when you get the chance.

[@omarcomming722]

I kinda really started hating that since everything that's coming out are comic book-based properties, there are always a ton of people knowing exactly what's coming out and spoiling everything both directly and indirectly through incessant fan theories, and since all of those shows/movies are directly "taking inspiration" from comic books, it's never gonna be anything surprising again unless you shut yourself from the internet forever.

[@Blank-jt3nj]

The 90's were 10 years ago, you cant convince me otherwise

[@DVJ-]

[HashTag] Release the ‘Last Airbender’ CoG

[@Novum_YT]

He grows the beard because of the 'tachyons emitting at a different rate' device to demonstrate that the hour or so he spent there was a lot longer relatively.

[@santiagolagomarsino7360]

Does no one else sees NIGHTWING as inspiration for the INVINCIBLE suit?? Plus the lastname GRAYSON seems very deliberate.

[@johnnyrico3068]

Does nobody understand that Restore the SNYDERVERSE literally means we just want him to finish the arc of ZSJL! We don’t want him to takeover for the whole of the DC movies. Let other filmmakers do their vision and whatever the fuck they want! Jesus! This would actually help them maintain their integrity instead of the studio screwing with these projects. DAMN! But I guess ya’ll like that 🙄

[@Bkbw82]

Yes Maso! Bloody Transformers! Death, lots of death! I was only 4...it ruined my childhood before it even started!

[@OwlAndAntler]

invincible is so good. I got my whole family on it

[@Hambone4815]

Invincible is awesome. Comics are always on my phone 😋

[@bean0195]

I did not know what Becker was. I am now I interested in what Becker is

[@pomaimoikeha829]

Becker was just fun lol

[@trebizond790]

The phrase 'CGI a big bell on a different man' has multiple meanings to a British person who regularly uses the epithet 'bellend'

[@Brooklyn_Bleek]

Hey, I agree with you two on Invincible...congrats! You guys are a couple of regular Joe Grogans'.

[@javiervillegas7703]

Thank you for the Becker theme instead of Westworld, I absolutely hate the Westworld bit. Piano and all. I hate the Letters bit in equal measures. Love you guys, keep up the good work

[@MrDarthT]

They still did the Westworld bit...

[@javiervillegas7703]

@@MrDarthT must've missed it. I always skip 10 seconds forward when they're about to do any of the Weekly podcast theme songs

[@runthejudes]

18:28 if that’s true, I always thought Horizon Zero Dawn would be ripe for a series adaption.

[@silentmiah]

Hey guys, forgive my ignorance I don't know how youtube works but is there a way that you could make the Podcast go live when you put it on KZbin? So you could start the chat. think a lot of us would like to talk with one another while we listen. Just a thought. Love the show.

[@WeeklyPlanetPodcast]

Could definitely try that!

[@SkippyGranola]

Love these guys, but the ad felt like it took an age.

[@Guy2210]

I went into Invincible completely blind, not seeing any stuff about it, and by 35mins in I was horrified. But its a great show.

[@jokarpinski22]

I thought it was the like Young Justice S3 when they save/replace the Justice League for 30-40 minutes.... and then OmniMan went all INJUSTICE in the post credits, I ALMOST CLICKED NEXT EPISODE before seeing that and I was like OMG WTF!!!!!!! #RianJohnsoncouldlearnfromthis

[@ericlytle2209]

I like invincible but it really just makes me more adamant about the Steelheart book series needing to be a tv or cartoon series. It’s really can be so easily adapted

[@TheGodzillaRobot]

I thought these first few episodes of Invincible were pretty amazing.

[@75YBA]

Canada loves ya baby!

[@17absolut]

So for Ma' Kent, we got a "Behind her eyes" situation ?

[@rudayyy13]

I really appreciate the Burger from Sex and the City reference at 25:36 😂😂😂

[@hvz4ever]

Unfortunately, I read the description of the show on Amazon before it came out, and that blurb kinda gives away the twist

[@Trefox87]

I like that this show feels like its going to be similar to Devilman Crybaby. It'll be close in some parts to the comic, but do its on unique bits with some of the arcs. I also love any time Zazie Beats is apart of something, so her character not fading away just yet is a plus to me, at least till we hit another Crybaby similarity and just start losing the supporting weaker cast like flies

[@victoryusmc]

Holy crap, I might be related to Angel Manuel Soto. No joke, we have the same middle and last name

[@18Themega]

Let's be real the best One Man Suicide Squad was already in Suicide Squad, Will Smith. He's got Mr Suicide Squad, he's got MIB, he's got Wild Wild West, he's got the Bad Boys and Independence Day, Hancock, Muhammad Ali, and of course, Will Smith.

[@ajerk2many]

When are they gonna do a big budget remake of Becker?!!

[@johntenga6087]

Unstoppable Suicide Squad- Henry Cavil Secret agent of U.n.c.l.e., John Walker, Sherlock Holmes, and FUCKING SUPERMAN

[@LBpivot666]

That was the best westworld by a country mile hahahahahahahaha omfg

[@kosmaspiratos6583]

#teleasethesnydercut sup from Montreal 🇨🇦 love your show 👍🏻