FULL PLOT BREAK DOWN of Scream (2022) + Easter Eggs

[@Dayleofthedead]

I love how the motive is a direct inverse of Billy’s line from the first one “Movies don’t create psychos movies make psychos more creative” It’s brilliant when you think about it

[@silentsaturn7604]

Good point.

[@Joker_JAK]

I think it's funny when people say the motive is lame. But how is Billy's motive any better? He goes on a killing spree because his mom left? Like what the fuck? Lol Or Mrs. Loomis. I get wanting to kill Sidney for killing Billy, but you wouldn't need to kill a bunch of other innocent people. Or Mickey. He just wanted to have a trial and blame the movies. My point is that there's no *good* reason to go on a killing spree and murder innocent people. So the motives in this film are just as "reasonable" as any of the others.

[@Chub_Loaf]

Girl you completely blew my mind just now! Thank you for posting this!

[@CrissBaybay]

@@Joker_JAK It was personal. That's the difference

[@CrissBaybay]

Nice perception, but neither killer got more creative. They copied alot from the first movie

[@PittsburghSportsFan43]

I didn't catch that Dewey had Tatum's ashes. That's so sweet. Especially since they didn't seem to have that great a relationship and he was never really shown grieving for her.

[@randomnessltd]

I thought that Tatum's ashes were a red herring. At first.

[@RedRanger_]

Completely forgot that was his sister Lmfao

[@esm82ify]

In my experience, a death like this would be grieved in private "out of respect" for his parents who lost their last born child. My mom's dad was murdered when she was 5 and her mother actively discouraged her from crying about it because "she didn't know what she lost"

[@Ihy.Sarahtonin]

@@esm82ify that’s actually fucked up

[@mc2156]

Ooooo yeah they were bro and sis

[@twocuteweirdos]

Amber doesn’t get a bottle of liquor smashed over her head, it’s a bottle of hand sanitizer, which is a thousand times funnier. She even says “Hand sanitizer? Are you serious?” in a super throw away line.

[@mauriciobcloss]

I loved that "subtle" covid reference lol

[@idawg7332]

Hand sanitizer is also very flammable

[@chrism91796]

Hand sanitizer in a glass bottle? I thought that it was like vodka and the joke was that it tasted like hand sanitizer

[@rahbeeuh]

@@chrism91796 the super fancy companies have hand sanitizer in glass bottles.

[@Leoshaus]

@@chrism91796 we have a ton of glass bottled ones at my job which I was shocked to see😂

[@jasonsaroyan]

Randy's death was shocking but it also served a purpose in the film. It causes Gale to finally embrace her empathy, seeing the victims of these murders as actual people instead of choosing to see them as only pawns in a greater narrative she's actively exploiting for profit - which in turn allows Dewey to see Gale in a new light, paving the way for their budding relationship.

[@latayesha]

I never noticed this, too bad she goes to being a douche in the 5th one

[@tayloranderson7547]

Randy's death was shocking but it also served a a phrase film guild to finally embrace the psychopathy and the victim murder actually people on stage choosing paws in a

[@gypsycat8627]

@@tayloranderson7547 are you having a stroke?

[@tommysmith7462]

@@gypsycat8627 Thanks for that, i fuckin needed that laugh!!

[@marsayataylor2371]

I hated when they killed Randy. He was the architect of the movie. He knew all the rules and regulations. And he was a comic relief, with a big crush on Sydney..

[@RyADem]

Completely agree on how they used Roger Jackson, especially in the opening. They gave him a ton to work with and he crushed it. Allowed him to be charming and innocent and slowly progress to the menace. In S4 opening especially I think it was a missed opportunity that he called as an immediately threatening presence

[@scottchaison1001]

What's bad with the S4 opening? It was great.

[@noahherrera5214]

Roger sounded weird in 4 too I guess it was to make it seem like a remake? Like the cinematography

[@scottchaison1001]

@@noahherrera5214 What's bad in it?

[@noahherrera5214]

@@scottchaison1001 idk I didn’t say it was bad

[@ozbot2947]

The "Tick tock tick tockticktotitotito" was so well done!

[@aleksandarradovanovic8496]

Dewey was and always will be my favourite character in Scream franchise. I don't know how will i be able to enjoy any future Scream movie now that he's gone.

[@roxasora225]

Randy will always be my favorite! I hate that they killed him off!!!-Even Wes admitted that it was a terrible idea to do! I’m glad they threw in the collage of pictures of him in the Meek’s house and the part of the first stab that Mindy is watching is Randy’s rules scene though! Also it’s hilarious-in Scream 2 Randy says they get Tory Spelling to play Sid, and a Joyblow nobody to play Randy-SO TRUE-and that Dewey at least got David Shwimmer!

[@sierracindrell5775]

I didn’t mind the Billy hallucinations. I thought it was cool that everyone was speculating that Stu would be back and they flipped it on us and brought Billy back. I don’t understand why EVERYONE bring up Sidney’s “hallucinations” of her mother when talking about the Billy thing. Sidney wasn’t hallucinating, or seeing visions of her mother at all, she was just dreaming.

[@famousthaneus9810]

She saw her mother on the film set when getting chased by Ghostface. That one was a hallucination

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

@@famousthaneus9810 Nah, it was Roman with his magical voice changer that can replicate any voice. He also used the same Maureen Prescott voice + bedsheet later in the killer reveal scene.

[@rahbeeuh]

Right! Some fans don't like the dream sequence in Scream 3 but it creeped me out when I first saw it

[@vortexandres3950]

@@rahbeeuh I like it

[@DaggerPrince]

I thought the Billy thing was super cool. Especially at the end the reflection in the car where he gave Sam a sort of nod and looked somewhat proud/happy that she survived. It almost felt like it was more than just visions and her dad Billy was really there like a spirit helping his daughter survive. Undoing his past sins from his life by preventing his daughter from dying in a way in which he wanted Sidney to die. Of course it could all just be hallucinations and nothing more - but its cool to think about and imo its open for interpretation.

[@dash-x]

Courtney and David are really great actors. You can see they really channeled the pain from the dissolution of their real life marriage. I can’t imagine working with an ex spouse would be easy or uncomplicated, but Bravo for them being soo differentiated. Also a great model of healthy relationships for their kiddos. I know it’s a bit of an aside, but something I really appreciate and think is cool.

[@milanek1527]

​@@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSEsays who? Only you.

[@jeanninebrice9107]

They really did some fun stuff here and I loved it! Some other Easter eggs I noticed were when the killer mentions “Psycho” to Judy, it immediately cuts to an identical shower head shot from Psycho. Also when Ritchie is first watching the stab movies in the hospital, you can actually hear that he’s watching the first Scream. U can hear the sounds Casey makes after Ghost face has first Stabbed her and is on top of her.

[@kharma7755]

another Easter Egg, though small, was Tara lifting and dropping the knife back into the block in the opening scene, similar to Casey Becker in S1

[@mooncherie1]

@@kharma7755 yes I love the subtle Easter eggs

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I thought the Psycho reference was really obvious, but I absolutely loved the fake-out that he never actually goes after Wes while he's in the shower. It was just to get Judy back to the house.

[@foccha]

I actually laughed out loud when it had the same shot of the shower head.

[@tayloranderson7547]

I saw allot of that

[@davonriley]

I love seeing Sidney grow more and more as a character in every Scream movie. Neve was truly dedicated to this character.

[@tenaciouscreator5787]

I'm surprised you didn't mention that - Matthew Lilard played "Flamethrower Ghostface" - Drew Barrymore was the Woodsboro Principal - Hayden Penettiere, Matthew Lilard, and Adam Brody were all at the party (background only though)

[@kit9638]

Jamie Kennedy apparently also did a voice line for the party even though he wasn't on set.

[@sabrinacarter8639]

I believe on the final point it's all voice lines

[@noahherrera5214]

@@kit9638 he was the one who called Richie someone’s goofy ass dad

[@haroldisintrouble]

I didnt even knkw this-

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

I did not know about the last part or Drew Barrymore

[@AliFrankTheTank]

Richie taking sam medicine, making her “think” it was tara, the inhaler…… He was lowkey more of the mastermind than Amber. i liked the new cast and there was a TON of survivors so i can’t wait for 6……

[@ethandram]

When did Richie take Sam’s medicine?

[@eugenastewart140]

@@ethandram I'm not exactly sure what the original comments is trying to say, but here was my take away from the movie: Sam is taking meds that she thinks are no longer working. Richie is aware she takes meds (he comments on it outside their job). Then, toward the climax of the movie, Richie reveals that he has Tara's inhaler & used that to lure them to Amber's house. From those things, it can be assumed that at some point Richie tampered with Sam's meds as part of he & Amber's plot.

[@TheRooboy78]

The Judy/Wes murder is my favorite scene too - I liked the quiet buildup of Wes walking around the house knowing Ghostface was right there somewhere.

[@alexmoreira876]

And how sad it is, because in a few seconds, we can sense the kind of sweet relationship Wes and Judy had.

[@rahbeeuh]

@@alexmoreira876 that made their deaths that much somber

[@devinsenter8030]

Yeah but the one think that bothered me was that judy was killed in BROAD DAYLIGHT right outside her house

[@TheRooboy78]

@@devinsenter8030 which is why it was scarier. A murder in the middle of the suburbs in the daytime is a lot more striking of a contrast. It showed that nobody was safe anywhere.

[@07foxmulder]

The scene when he’s walking around and the film’s doing the “is the killer gonna be behind the door when he closes it” schtick went on for way too long. It was laughably obnoxious. Also, the mom being murdered in broad daylight, in front of her house, next to her cruiser with the lights flashing was flat out stupid. I know Scream 5 is a lazy cash grab but holy hell some of the writing actually felt like a Stab movie.

[@therealtosis]

The fact that these killers had such a shallow motive was pure genius!! Psychos don't really need motives to kill, let's face it, and also as stated in the video, these killers were supposed to be kind of lame, and that was awesome!! As Gale said at the end, "let them die in anonymity"! Enough with the glorification of the killers!!!

[@garygilfillan8400]

THIS. I thought the motive was lame at first. Then I thought about it and it was actually kind of genius. I knew it was going to be Amber, you could figure that out by the first trailer being cut to show her obviously being on fire. But the reveal was good. And Sid and Gale effed her up, I just wish she would have been on fire and suffered longer. But I loved her hitting the stove.

[@rahbeeuh]

@@garygilfillan8400 do you think she stopped, dropped and rolled off screen since the kitchen didn't really catch fire?

[@garygilfillan8400]

@@rahbeeuh well to be fair Sid did only throw hand sanitizer on Amber. But I wanted her charred to a crisp. She was pure evil.

[@lgms1951]

They were supposed to be lame but Richie didn’t seem lame at all I loved him in this movie

[@jonaskeller4687]

This! All the Scream movies were, to a differing degree, a takedown of the mystification of serial killers and an elevation of those who fight back. I was really happy with how this movie put that front and center - calling the killers "idiots" several times, the "anonymity" comment you mentioned and their motive of wanting the killer(s) to be the star(s) of the franchise. I love Scream because it never encourages the audience to root against the victims and often even explicitly criticizes the toxic part of horror fandom that just enjoys seeing people get hurt.

[@willhamilton3908]

I think I’m in the small group who loved Richie’s performance, and I had him like billy at first. Like it was so obvious that it couldn’t be him. I knew it would be Amber from the start due to her just being so hateful towards everything, but I was like “everything points towards Richie no way it’s actually him”. Another thing: I thought when Liv was threatening Mindy, I thought she was about to reveal herself as one.

[@cadenwitt8975]

I like Richie too 🖐

[@fabianzimmermann5495]

Same, I was really certain, that it wasn't going to be Ritchie, since everyone was pointing towards him. For a while I expected it to be Chad and I was also thinking, that Liv would maybe reveal herself, though I didn't really expect it to be her, since she was barely in the movie.

[@zackyvwasin339]

I love Richie too (and Jack Quaid OFC)

[@danielcm4237]

I like Richie too. And Jack Quaid's performance of a nice supporting and sometimes goofy boyfriend convinced me entirily. The only moment I suspected him was actualy right before his reveal, when he suggests Tara to be one of the killers. I just think he could be more psychotic after his reveal

[@willhamilton3908]

@@danielcm4237 I feel the reason he wasn’t was he had a mindset like Billy and was more tactical compared to amber’s psychotic style.

[@archiereid7037]

The confirmation of Kirby surviving instantly made this the second best film (after the OG ofc)

[@ScottyKnowzs]

I assume this is because Kirby is one of your favorite characters in the franchise? So it's weird that Scream 4 doesn't rank higher on the list. She is in the entirety of scream 4, but you like a movie more when she is only an easter egg in a youtube thumbnail? Lol

[@wsean87]

​@@ScottyKnowzshow do you know what rank her movies are in?

[@kylesparsons151]

This was such a fun movie to see in theaters. Sure, there are things I could nitpick about it that were not my favorite, but overall it was a great installment to the franchise.

[@Nickkolakowski316]

I agree movie was great overall . Only nitpick was not supriseed with killers reveal and the motive was weak in my opinion.

[@DavidKen878]

@@Nickkolakowski316 Weak? Their motive was worse than Jill's! At least Jill actually had something to gain.

[@silentsaturn7604]

@@DavidKen878 If you look at how toxic fans send death threats to actors and film makers which - according to them - ruined their favourite franchise, it seems like a natural conclusion to incorporate that into a franchise. In the end they're all just crazy.

[@user.7710]

yeah I was a bit skeptical when I heard about bringing in a new generation but these new characters are really fun to watch.

[@DavidKen878]

@@silentsaturn7604 Doesn't matter. It was still a horrible motive.

[@thewalkingdeadpoolcosplay9495]

When Gale says she’s gonna write a book about Dewey and Sid says it’s a book she’d love to read, Gale should have said “I’ll send you a copy”, as a little tie back to the first when Sid punched her in the face

[@tahjricramberan9656]

Noooo Sidney should have said it at the book signing when gale said she hadn’t read the book yet

[@the21stsergeant]

We actually already knew that Jennifer Jolie played Gale in the first and second Stab movies, because in Scream 3 she says "after 2 films I feel like I am in your mind" on the set of Stab 3!

[@rahbeeuh]

That would explain my constant headaches. (or something to that degree) 😂

[@jamesmcfie6070]

Also Dewey helped her get in the mindset of gale as he knew the real gale weathers

[@tayloranderson7547]

I love to see that

[@louiseblakey2465]

I love that one of the killers is played by Meg Ryan’s son considering what Sydney said about Meg Ryan movies in the first film

[@ShockerTopper]

You think of Meg Ryan before Dennis Quaid? Dennis Quaid was always be the B-Movie bad ass growing up in the 90's.

[@terra__incognita]

@@ShockerTopper ​ I absolutely think of Meg Ryan before Dennis Quaid. Meg Ryan was a BIG deal for quite a while in Hollywood. Dennis Quaid was a deal, sure, but never a BIG one, no matter the star vehicle put together for him (Great Balls of Fire, anyone?). Although, I do have a small tangential connection to him: my dad worked for a childhood friend before he married my mother, running numbers for his bookmaking business (one of the first things I remember my father teaching me was to never bet on baseball. I had a very wholesome childhood, can't you tell?). The business of his buddy's brother was even less legit, as drugs trump gambling. This is how I came into possession of a photo of Dennis Quaid and his then-girlfriend Lea Thompson (Back to the Future) in my dad's former boss's living room with giant pile of cocaine on the coffee table in front of them. The brother was also Randy Quaid's main dealer, and a simple Google search can tell anyone who doesn't already know how that turned out.

[@famousthaneus9810]

Technically speaking, Roman didn’t start everything. Roman himself admitted that Stu & Billy took things well beyond what he’d intended. A case could be made, certainly, because if he hadn’t convinced them to kill Syd’s mom then I doubt the rest would’ve happened, but that was pretty much a year before the actual Ghostface murder sprees began. Technically it’s its own separate thing

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Billy could've just let go of his anger after he murdered Maureen. Maybe he would've even married Sidney, and taken Maureen's death to his grave. But instead he chose to blame Sidney for his parents' and her mother's wrongdoings and created a costumed persona just so he could bring his revenge fantasy to life. Roman can't be credited as the first Ghostface because he didn't ever put on the costume until the 3rd movie.

[@valhalax25]

Roman planted the seed to take it as far as it did.

[@Candybomb79]

@@valhalax25 Exactly

[@scottchaison1001]

@@kimberlyterasaki4843 Why do you say that as a bad thing? The first movie is great.

[@famousthaneus9810]

@@valhalax25 I literally addressed that the argument could be made, but Roman made it clear that he only intended for Billy to kill Sid’s mom.

[@stephaniecutting9223]

I actually didn't have the fact that they were at Stu's house spoiled for me I guess I never saw that photo so as someone who didn't see it coming I loved that reveal! Through the whole party scene I kept thinking how the house's layout seemed similar especially the room Mindy was sitting in and thought it was just a little nod to the original house so to find out that it was actually that house I thought was super cool!

[@Cookie12670]

What a lovely surprise today. I’ve been waiting for this since I watched the movie. Great review! Agree 100% on Jenna Ortega. For me, she was the best thing about this movie along with David Arquette’s performance. She had to sell the terror to us from the beginning and she sure did. I want to see it again this week. I loved it.

[@scottchaison1001]

The other actors were great too.

[@lgms1951]

I think jack qauid had the best performance the way he pulled a full 180 on everyone at the end was awsome he was so good and had me on the edge of my seat he crushed this role!

[@ashleywilliams4665]

I love that this movie shows us exactly who the killers are pretty early in the movie. The fact that Ghostface used “cloned” Ambers phone, recorded her and used her as a scare tactic. Like obviously we don’t know who Amber is yet but Ghostface wouldn’t just record someone. If it wasn’t Amber, Ghostface would have actually killed Amber, and made Tara watch. And it still would’ve worked for their goal, keeping Tara alive to bring Sam. And then DEWEY our king tells us it’s the boyfriend. Of course one of his last deeds is finding the killer❤️ even if he wasn’t sure yet To me it felt like the og Scream. It tells you who the killers are and if you just take things for what they are, you should be able to guess who the killers are.

[@dajhe]

perfect way to put it

[@mysticmonk5037]

and the scene where ghostface calls sam before attacking her at the hospital, you can see the caller id says “Amber Freeman” that was a dead giveaway. and the scene after that Judy is talking to Amber & Ritchie and you can see a bruise on Amber’s collarbone.

[@latayesha]

@@mysticmonk5037 It wasn't a "dead giveaway" it was just "cloned."

[@latayesha]

On the Amber being filmed part, I just assumed that GF killed her but Told Tara it was a live video

[@AshWLW]

The way I knew it was amber first because omg she is so mysterious and also the boots that she wears

[@matthorsman2900]

Being an obsessive Scream fan and Having not seen a Scream Movie in theatres in over 22 years, I had apprehensive thoughts about this one… but radio silence nailed it. Was it a perfect movie? No, it definitely had its flaws (ghost Billy threw me off, but at the same time who can really complain about Skeet Ulrich coming back to the role 25 years later), the pacing in the front half seemed off, but at the same time I feel this is the most relevant Scream movie, and possibly most important. This franchise has always been about the meta aspect, self reference, and throwing something back in the audiences face about the perception of Movies and how they affect people. And with that, this movie I feel is really needed right now. And before you go in to it hoping for it to be like every other scream movie. It isn’t. This isn’t your typical “who is the killer” movie, this is a motive movie, and call out to toxic fandom. The scariest part about this film IS the motive, it isn’t a long lost brother out for revenge, it isn’t a jealous cousin who wants the spotlight, or a butt hurt ex boyfriend. It’s about people not happy with the way “their favorite franchise” is being ruined by new directors and adding elements that don’t need to be there. Toxic fandom at its most extreme, the people threatening death to those involved with “ruining their childhood”. This is the most socially relevant Scream movie ever made, a Scream film with an elevated horror element, that I feel answers a few questions we had when we first heard it was announced: 1: Can they/would they dare kill off a legacy cast member? Dewey was the most underrated member that grew on me over the course of the series. It was heart breaking and horrific to watch him die, but at the same time, it was a death WORTHY Of Dewey. It was drawn out, graphic, emotional and incredibly visceral. But I feel it was important to the franchise, and more importantly… Gale was always going to be too big for Woodsboro, and Dewey WAS Woodsboro. It was a tragic love story from the get go. We get to see what the effect of dealing with this for 25 years has done to Dewey and the reality of losing his sister, wife and his friends. 2: Can they do a Scream movie without the legacy cast? Short answer. Yes. Long answer, This cast was strong, I feel they severely under-utilized Kyle Gallner (as Stu’s nephew I feel like a quick poke to the jugular was a lame death, but I feel like there was a lot edited out of that scene) Kyle Gallner is a great actor and I think he was one of the worst written characters. Mindy Meeks may be my new favorite character (so glad she lived) and her little scene on the couch watching her uncle in stab while the killer was behind her was just brilliant. (So I have a new Goal to get work on “yellowjackets” so I can meet her haha) Radio Silence does an amazing job with creating an entire character and graphic death scene, just so in the third act we could see a banner saying “For Wes”. Brilliant. Craven forever immortalized on screen in the franchise he started. The legacy cast is always amazing, but it’s nice to see a movie with mostly well written characters who can hold their own where you’re not constantly wondering “where’s Sidney? where’s Gail and Dewey?” I personally feel like Jenna Ortegas “Tara” was still the stronger of the two sisters, and hopefully we see her do more in the next one. The cast that survived are all honestly the most likeable characters so I’d be down to se them come Back. 3: Will there be enough fan service? Hell yes. It’s not Thrown in your face constantly, there are a lot of subtle hints that you have to listen for or look out for, ie: Kirby is still alive, Sydney is married to Mark Kincaid, Tatums ashes on Dewey’s shelf, the reveal of Stu’s house. (A little less hinted at, but still a great reveal) and for the diehards who really looked… a hint that Stu may still be alive. A lot of stuff OG fans are going to love, but it’s not “in your face” so it doesn’t alienate anyone who may have not seen a scream movie before (but to get the FULL effect of this movie, I definitely recommend watching the first 4) Side note: I was not a fan of four, but after a few re watches, I’ve come to accept it and appreciate it for what it was trying to say. ( Alison Brie and Hayden not even gonna try and spell her last name, were the best part) This is the first Scream film I’ve ever gotten emotional in haha, when they go to the Meeks house and they pan over Randy’s memorial home theatre… I may have choked up a little. Randy’s my hero haha, Jamie Kennedy and Wes Craven created a new horror movie archetype in 1996, the Randy haha, the one who knows how to survive. Fun fact: I started writing right about the time this movie came out, and ever since I started writing, I’ve always include a character named Randy because of him. And 4: Can they make a marketable Scream movie in 2022? This is for all intents and purposes, a Wes Craven film. It has that tone to it, the meta aspect of a traditional scream film, while still somehow being able to remain true to what Radio Silence is known for, there was no “copycat” technique or “trying” to make a Wes craven film… it was a different film, it just felt like Wes Craven was behind the camera at some points. This is the most brutal ghost face has ever been. The camp and cheese factor is gone, but yet still sharp and funny where it needs to be. But genuinely so. No forced laughs. The legacy cast isn’t over used, and this felt like an honest to god passing of the torch in the franchise. Like the past is important, and they recognize and respect it, but there are new stories to tell in this series. Some that maybe don’t involve Sidney and Gale. Halloween had some successful sequels with out Jamie Lee Curtis, so did Friday the 13th… if they had kept Jamie Lee Curtis on for all 13 movies… that would have gotten old super fast. Scream, in my opinion, has this weird distinction of being the “FINAL final girl” horror movie series, Sidney at the center of every single one, every movie they be made they feel has to be revolved around Her some how. Which makes Neve Cambell the final girl of final girls. Jamie Lee is a final girl, but she hasn’t been the focus Of every Halloween movie ever made. And Jason is the focus of the Friday films. Sidney has been the focus of the scream franchise. Every film. So I feel like fans have a harder time accepting a scream movie with out Neve Campbell. Which I understand. Michael Meyers and Laurie strode are names synonymous with Halloween. Sidney and Ghostface are synonymous with Scream. I get it. But if we stick to the same formula, we never evolve our tastes in what we like. It’s okay to not like something the first time and then growing an appreciation for it over time. This may not be your favorite Scream movie because it doesn’t star Sidney, but anyone saying they didn’t like it because it was too different… I can’t argue with you because, well… films are completely subjective, and that makes your point valid. In closing, I’m looking forward to the next instalment of this franchise. I think Matt and Tyler really went all out and yet managed to keep the flavor of the original in heart. I’m looking toward to the next reveal, maybe a cult of ghost faces, or maybe an open ended scream movie where the killer gets away… I have trust in Radio Silence and can’t wait to see why they do with this franchise .

[@tonyfilangeri]

How can you be such a fan and still spell Sidney incorrectly? Haha jokes aside, love your review and observations :)

[@tgiacin435]

The bit with Billy as a ghost reminds me of Sidney being haunted by visions of Maureen. And the toxic fandom bit reminds me of the whole movies and games are responsible for psychos. Idk, maybe it’s just me, but I don’t get into “fandom”. To me fandom is an extremist mentality. Yes I may be a fan of something, and I like to talk to others who have a similar interest, but that’s not gonna blind me from criticizing something on the merits as a movie.

[@lionelwilliams1646]

My interpretation of the Stu Easter egg was a KZbinr saw the film Stab about the events that took place in Woodsboro . Which in that film Stu is played by Vince Vaughn lol so they decided to make a KZbin video about the real Stu Macher (Matthew Lillard) potentially being alive lol

[@natalia4772]

Omgggg yesss

[@scottchaison1001]

@@tgiacin435 What are you talking about?

[@BenSoloakaKyloRen]

Just want to drop a quick comment about amber’s “bruise” around collar bone: I believe that’s a birth mark on the actress Mikey Madison. She has it in recent interviews too. It isn’t always visible in all her photos because maybe make up, but definitely a number of appearances in past photos and videos before. But the fact that they didn’t use make up to cover it up in the film-nice. Could be intentional as described and discussed in this video.

[@des1279]

I think if it was done purposefully it would be more obvious, but I think it was a creative choice to leave it untouched as to show that it is not a 'blemish' as most people would assume and to try and normalize those sort of things in the "Hollywood" lens

[@tiramisoo]

its a birth mark and I think they used make up to kind make it stand out and made use of it to hint and her being the killer in subtle ways.

[@thatsaweirdlookinsax5533]

I love this movie, Scream was not only the first horror movie I ever watched it was the first movie I ever watched. I’ve been a scream fan since I was 5. And this was the first scream movie I got to see in theaters, and it was one of my favorite film experiences ever

[@paidendenae]

Omg same! It wasn’t my first movie, but it definitely was my first horror movie. I was 6 and being surrounded by older cousins, I was dragged into watching whatever they did lol and they happened to love these movies so I grew up having a soft spot for the Scream franchise. But when the 4th one came out I was too young to actually see it in theaters. This new scream was honestly great in my opinion

[@LRCh_]

I'm going through the process of a divorce from a close friend right now, so Dewey and Gale in this movie hit all the right notes. My heart. 💙 That said, going back was a Scream 2 mistake, Dewey gotta know better. He survived 25 years in this franchise!

[@SashaRicky]

Same with me. Myself and my boyfriend are struggling to stay together because he wants to live in the city and I want to live in my home country town. It hit deep with what Dewey and Gale said to each other. The love was still there but they wanted different things. Wish you the best in what you're going through. 💙

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I actually didn't like that Dewey and Gale were split up, because I loved how in 4 they were still together even though that was really unlikely. As for Dewey going back, it was dumb, but I get that he wanted to be the hero. And Gale's reaction is one of my favorite moments in the whole franchise.

[@LRCh_]

@@coolnerdlll6053 "You killed my best friend" is probably my favorite line of the series (supplanting "my mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me"). Because it doesn't matter what else they were, he was always her best friend

[@juliet1651]

@@LRCh_ yeah, so true. That line hits harder ‘cause it means that she fell in love with her best friend & she still loved him 🥺

[@juliet1651]

The Gale & Dewey part was the most sad ‘cause it was so clear that they still loved each other & unfortunately they couldn’t have revealed it to each other, but I’m sure they both know it. In the Scream 5 script while Dewey is messaging Gale he also start to write another message “I still..” but then he re thinks of it and delete it. And during the Gale scene where she sees Dewey’s body, there is the description of her emotions where it said “Gale screams. Collapses to her knees. There will never be a chance to say all the things she should have said”. It’s so bittersweet 😭

[@TheAscendedDreamer]

Jamie Kennedy actually has his own sort of review of the new Scream on his channel, and he IS very happy with his on screen niece and nephew! He says that Randy would be proud of them. Makes me happy to see. 🥰

[@sarahhenry1845]

Aaaaaaawwwww! That is so sweet. Now I'm even more annoyed that the twins never got to meet their uncle.

[@sketchtheparadigmyork1217]

Tara was by far my favorite in this movie. Wouldn’t mind seeing her take more center stage over Sam… no hate to Melissa, but Jenna was a real scene stealer also, I actually liked seeing Billy because I didnt expect it at all! however I also avoided spoilers…. I notice the people who found this movie to be lackluster are mostly the people who saw every single form or advertisement and whatnot… or people who already knew what would happen. I thought billy was unexpected because we all wanted stu, so I actually loved it.

[@jonaskeller4687]

I see a 50/50 chance that Tara will end up the final girl of the new trilogy and Sam will snap - giving us another half-sibling showdown to conclude a Scream trilogy. Only it would be better, because by then we would know Sam much better than we knew Roman. I'm still hoping that the Carpenter sisters stay on the right side together, though.

[@marina.chayka]

@@jonaskeller4687 it would actually be amazing to watch her became a killer over time

[@christineworks1002]

I so wanted Stu back but seeing billy was nice

[@kristianalvarez293]

I like how they mentioned Billy, Stu, Jill, but i was suprised when they mentioned Charlie...

[@Patrifice]

I think that the burnt Amber charging at them with a knife was more a reference to Child’s Play. That was what my mind immediately jumped to. It just reminded me of the burnt Chucky in the original movie.

[@ImmortalBroken]

Yes! Especially since Amber's kill/stab style is so Chucky-like lol.

[@ilychace]

I genuinely loved this film. I think Jack Quaid did great as Richie & Jenna was phenomenal!

[@Leoshaus]

I would’ve loved an ending scene with them at Dewey’s funeral or something with Gale wearing her ring. Idk maybe it’s just me

[@eighthdoctor]

Nah I agree. I had hoped Dewey would have gotten a decent send off or something but maybe they ran out of time to put it in or whatever. Maybe they filmed a similar scene and it'll be included on the DVD/BluRay? 🤞🏻

[@toxictimeless6655]

I avoided anything at all about the movie until I saw it - no pictures, no trailers, about the only thing I'd seen was the poster. I didn't want any spoilers at all. And yeah, it made the Macher house reveal pretty exciting. I'm sorry others had that ruined for them.

[@DavidKen878]

Yeah I don't understand why they would put that in the trailer. The way it's set up as a reveal as if we didn't already know it. I wish it would've been a surprise.

[@linlinxoxo]

I do think Randy's death served a purpose. It was later to be revealed to be a clue as to why he died and it also brought Dewey and gale closer together. They were no longer fighting about her possibly just wanting to find the killer for tv purposes but because she actually cares. It made them more of a team.

[@Roman-ku5ny]

wait how was it revealed to be a clue?

[@guess6635]

@@Roman-ku5ny When talking to the Killer on the phone, after he began talking trash about Billy the voice on the phone went silent and as Randy continued talking about Billy he was pulled into the van behind him immediately and stabbed constantly. Wasn't seen as a clue at the time but by the end, we could figure out why the Killer was so eager to Kill Randy after talking about Billy due to his Mother being one of the killers and the one who probably tool care of Randy's death herself.

[@pattierotondo1108]

@@guess6635 We know that Mrs. Loomis kills Randy because she says so. She admits that she "got a little knife happy" because Randy was dissing Billy.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Making Sam a future ghostface after the way she killed Richie would be a nice twist. The way she sliced and diced Richie had killer written all over her.

[@amandacollishaw563]

I was almost waiting for the movie to go a step farther and make her a 3rd killer.

[@scottchaison1001]

@@amandacollishaw563 ¿?

[@ronvins]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that. Especially after she wiped the knife clean.

[@deathshadow551]

I feel that would be way too predictable. so it wouldn't be a twist, unless they make use believe she's the killer in the next movie like she has black outs and thinks she's the new ghost face but it turns out that she isn't actually the Killer and that the killers motive was to make sam loose her mind or something like that

[@little_bigadventure3575]

@@ronvins that was a nice callback to the original when that is also done

[@EddieGoing]

Excellent recap! Additional things I noted: Gale is shot in the stomach in part 2 & part 5. The framing of Sam’s stabbing of Richie is the same framing of Billy’s attempted stab before he is shot in Scream 1.

[@MartinKronstrom]

The first red herring of the movie is not a misdirection but reality, which is rewarding for the more pragmatics viewers. It's really Amber... on her phone (caller ID proving it)... disguised as the killer... which she is... about to kill her interlocutor. It's an anti-whodunnit.

[@scottchaison1001]

What?

[@PomyCollingwood]

There were no red herrings at all... what're ya talkin'bout?!! They used the real voice idea in Scream 3 already. With the voice changer introduced, Roman is speaking on his own voice on the phone and the viewer dismisses it as the killer can use anybody's voice. Nothing new here, no anti-whodunnit or cleverness. Only lazy writing. The whole Scream 2022 is lazy. As a standalone film it'd be OK considering the low standards of the 2000s regarding horror movies. As a Scream sequel... it is rather weak. The killers are obvious from the git-go, not because of clues but because of today's political correctness, you can single out the characters quickly as certain minorities and character depictions are offensive to be killers, it leaves you with the guy and and the girl. I went to see the movie because of Neve's name, she deserves the paycheck, along with Courtney and David, the rest of the movie I wasn't really interested in... more like, I knew it was gonna be in shambles. A diluted remake kinda stuff to please the snowflakes. It could be a PG-13 flick, easily. Nothing's really outstanding in it.

[@scottchaison1001]

@@PomyCollingwood You 🧠n't?

[@PomyCollingwood]

@@scottchaison1001 U what? "You brainn't?" you say? I may be a bit older, I don't get it; not that it matters, really...

[@cngotham4111]

@@PomyCollingwood pretty sure scream has never had a minority as a killer before lol. So no it's not political correctness I'm pretty sure no one would hate if a minority was the killer hell they did it on the show

[@nemesis8685]

I noticed when Dewey shot Amber in the hospital Ritchie seemed to have a look of disappointment when she seemingly died.

[@crunchyfresco]

I don't know how he got over powered. That kinda made me mad and sad.

[@mohamine9540]

@@crunchyfresco it's plausible because Dewey was injured from old wounds plus he got old too

[@crunchyfresco]

@@mohamine9540 didn't think of that. Good point

[@mikelowery6227]

@@mohamine9540 lol I'm 41, out of shape and could easily kick the shit out of that puny thing. Nothing about that scene was realistic, especially the fact that the person he was fighting was obviously 2 feet taller than her tiny ass.

[@pinoytunes7707]

what puzzled me is that she has been shot multiple times, in the chest, and she just stood up like nothing happened, without any indication that she got hurt

[@ActorsWithIssuespodcast]

I loved this movie. I really didn’t know what to expect going in because it was the first without Wes as director, but I was so please with it. Jenna Ortega gives the best performance, hands down. Melissa did a great job as well. Mikey Madison was pretty fun in the final act, “I was radicalized!!” Definitely a callback to Stu’s “peer pressure! I’m far too sensitive” I love how this movie truly handed over the franchise to a new generation, instead of like Scream 4, every new character introduced ends up dead. The new characters were truly the main focus. I hope if they make a 6, Kirby is involved and maybe takes over the reigns of leading them through since she survived Scream 4 and is a horror movie expert too. I’m also really happy the twins survived, like true Meeks, and the thumbs up they gave being a nod to Dewey’s last minute survival.

[@XXXKaruXXX]

I dont think you can blame Scream 4 for not handing over the franchise to a new generation as it was always intended to be the last one,even when Wes saved Kirby just in case,there were no plans to do more movies

[@latayesha]

Have you seen Scream 4? Not EVERy character dies, Judy, Kirby & (possibly) Jill survived. It's strongly theorized that Jill survived bc she wasn't shot in the head

[@latayesha]

@@XXXKaruXXX This isn't true Judy's actress was actually contractuslly obligated to come back in the 5th. It was just pushed back, then Wes died.

[@latayesha]

@captain scentsible39 I know David Arquette wanted her to come back but I actually didn't know that. Also might be due to the fact she's a mom, lots of mom actresses don't want their kids to see them in horror movies, for some reason

[@Left4Legends]

If there is a scream 6 then the twins will probably die just like Randy survived in the 1st and died in the next

[@MikeHawk728]

Loved your words on the Sidney gale relationship, I loved how on 3 they have that awkward hug and I never really noticed on 4 the more excited hug for Dewey. This movie was fantastic, I’ve seen it twice and I definitely plan on seeing it again before it leaves theaters.

[@thelfinarcher]

The Billy hallucinations were a little weird, but I still kind of loved them, for the simple fact that there were soo many Stu returning theories (I rolled my eyes at these), and I like that there was THIS former killer returning, rather than the one fans hyped themselves up to see again. It also allowed us to have a hint of probably our best Scream killer thus far, which helped emphasize how lame these two killers were, even though their clumsy motive still fit the movie very well. Ritchie was somewhat of an awesome option as a killer; being the love interest made him a red herring, because it seems too obvious for him to be the killer, which was emphasized by Dewey's reference. That aspect made it even better for him to be the killer. Amber, on the other hand, was not someone I bought as the second killer. In a way, her personality fully fit, especially as a toxic fan killer, but her character was too weak for me. I have ignored the size differential between costume killer and revealed killers plenty in the past (particularly with petite Jill), but I could not wrap my head around Amber as the killer, in the physical sense. This is even more true when I thought back to her killing Dewey. I would have preferred to have seen Ritchie outsmart Dewey, but Amber just didn't have enough substance to be awarded that kill. Plus, she was on screen so little throughout (even when physically there, she seemed to hold little significance), and that made it harder to feel her being a killing fit. Roman was off screen quite a lot, but that seemed more appropriate with the movie set scenario. Despite that issue, I really liked the movie, and absolutely agree with the joy of the Meeks kids surviving (a nice little ode to Randy). I also loved the Wes and Judy scene for it's suspenseful play with the doors, but also for its unique killings. The emotion was definitely there for both kills, even though Judy was not a favorite from Scream 4, but we hadn't seen many daytime kills before. Plus, Judy running into the blade, and Wes slowly being stabbed in the neck were a bit atypical kills as well. That both made me focus more on Wes's death, specifically, which made the tribute to Wes Craven even better. Take a shot for Wes! Can't wait to watch the movie again. It's the perfect re-quel, and solidly fits amongst the first 2 in my top 3 Scream movies. Bonus, the way the movie ended with Sid and Gale was satisfying enough that I fully believe a future sequel could be made without either one, and still remain true to the franchise (though I would still welcome more Sidney)...as long as some of the new survivors are in it, or if Kirby is brought back.

[@TheLastSane1]

See I agree I disliked Deweys death especially on first watch after learning who the killer was. Because while there is some suspension of disbelief to the killers when they are in the suit. The death felt unsatisfying to me when its revealed Amber physically overpowered Dewey which is just hard to imagine when Gale and Sidney seem to be easily able to knock her around. i think if they were gonna have it be Amber as the killer the kill should have been more sneaky, or cunning. Stabbing him once in the gut stunning him and leaving him unable to move makes no sense for a guy who has been stabbed so much and is already running on adrenaline. Then her basically lifting him off the ground to gut him was just kind of nonsense given her size. Dewey has a good 70+ lbs on her and 6" of height as well even in the suit they arent bigger than him. Yeah he is older but she would have been a little girl still. Also bullet proof vest or not she took several slugs to the chest thats gonna bruise like fuck and might even break ribs on someone of her size.

[@alberto8294]

You we're right with that last sentence lol

[@annisacardona9759]

my liv theory is that she was still sleeping around with the macker nephew guy. that could be a reason why she didn’t want to share her location. i also think that’s why he showed up to the school out of nowhere and she stayed behind and for his behavior at the bar.

[@rubyrose9258]

29:15 oh same, I knew as soon as Dewey said "I gotta go back" I was like "Welp... RIP Dewey" I knew one of the main 3 was going to die but I wasn't sure which one at first, though i had a feeling it would be Dewey since he was missing in parts of the trailer where Gale and Sid were together and... the soundtrack 29:49 same 😭 I had a feeling when I heard the track before I went to see the movie that that's what happened

[@TheBatManiac]

One thing I appreciate about this video is that you showed that even though you had to things to pick apart, it didn’t take away from the actual fun of this movie! I think a lot of fans are taking the flaws and thinking about them WAY too seriously, then they can’t even enjoy the movie for what it is (and what Scream is). It’s a thrilling time, it’s funny, and generally a MEMORABLE entry! To me, it ACTUALLY feeling like it’s own movie and not just a sequel. The hallucinations, killers, styling of the acting in earlier scenes, and showcasing of the new characters can all be critiqued… but I still literally love this movie & rank it highly lmao

[@mauriciobcloss]

I absolutely loved this movie. For me, it was an awesome way to start a new story and honor the legacy characters. I have some thoughts about a few of the inconsistencies you pointed out in the movie: --> The part about Sidney not appearing on the Stab movies, I think it's actually that she threatened to sue if they continued using her story, not her image/name. So probably she did appear in all of the films except for Stab 8, but only up until 3 it was her real lifestory that was featured, and 4-7 it was a fictional plot, but still featuring the "character" Sidney, because Sunrise Studios could still have rights over that character. --> The part about Judy being a character on Stab, I think they probably made a fictional story that included Judy Hicks, because even though a movie about the events of Scream 4 was not made, Gale still wrote the book about the massacre, so the producers could have seen Judy being mentioned by Gale and decided to use her, so that the Stab requel could have connections with the past (I like to believe that, since Judy is Sidney's former schoolmate, and Gale's writing should be not very positive towards Judy, they could have made her a killer in Stab 8 😅). --> When Sidney says that Billy started it all, instead of Roman, maybe she's referring to Billy cheating on her with Sam's mother, getting her pregnant. I don't know how the timeline goes at this point, but maybe that could have been before Billy killed Maureen. Those are my opinions so that these bits could make sense 😊 but still, great video, I'm a big fan of your work!

[@rahbeeuh]

There's a deleted scene in Scream 4 where Gale promises to be nice to Judy in her book. Especially since Judy saved her life or tried to in the hospital scene.

[@jenniferwilson3436]

I really enjoyed this movie, it may be my favorite new cast that was introduced! I think the new directors paid so much respect to Wes Craven, but gave it their own style. I also felt like they perfectly set up a new trilogy. I have my issues with it, but I feel like it is one of the best sequels! I enjoyed Richie, but I also love Jack Quaid as an actor, and that may be clouding my judgement!

[@ashtonthewolfie2229]

I think the motive of the killers of Scream (2022) is pretty great. It wasn't as deep as compared to the previous motives, but it was personal and insane. You can really never tell what goes inside a human's mind, and in this case, it's baffling to think that one can do such a thing just for a "simple" motive which makes the killers really terrifying.

[@givemeliberty700]

It's current which I liked people become radicalized on the internet just like amber said

[@givemeliberty700]

P.s amber is now my second favorite killer

[@tayloranderson7547]

So true

[@dend6064]

Overall this was a great movie I don't know why some people think this the worst one in the series in my opinion not of the Scream movies are bad. Scream 5 was a blast to see in theaters

[@TheNuketendo]

Yeah for real dude. I see it as another Scream movie. Nothing less, nothing more. Don’t know why people are going batshit nuts about it

[@grysnoir]

I feel like some people need to hate the newest things

[@scottchaison1001]

@@TheNuketendo Why do you say that like being another Scream movie is a bad thing?

[@TheNuketendo]

@@scottchaison1001 Don’t think you read the comment above me. Also I didn’t. I meant that as a compliment. Scream is like my favorite horror franchise next to Halloween. Didn’t mean for it to come off that way

[@TheNuketendo]

@@scottchaison1001 I was replying to him saying I don’t know why people are going batshit calling it bad or whatever from what I’ve seen. I think it’s great.

[@hlo1023]

The Dead Meat cameo was so fun cuz me and my girlfriend both watch them and seeing James and Chelsea finally get featured in a major way in cinema was so fun.

[@Hadouken65]

I like Sidney and Mark getting together. They bonded over both having witnessed horrific things committed by people. Not many people can understand that and neither of them would have to overly comfort each other. I thought it was a nice nod, especially as it was a name.

[@eighthdoctor]

Same. I know that they had planned to mention this in _Scream 4_ but cut it for whatever reason so I'm glad Sid got her happy ending with Kincaid & daughters. :')

[@Poopie22]

I hate it since she plays his sister in Greys Anatomy 🤮🤮🤮

[@Hadouken65]

@@Poopie22 Almost as if they’re actors

[@pattierotondo1108]

I'm actually surprised that Zack didn't see chemistry between them in Scream 3. I figure that's because Zack didn't like the character of Kincaid at all. I think it's easy to miss nuances in a character when you don't like them. I thought that it was pretty obvious in the scenes in the police station where he let her know that he understood about what it's like to try to live your life while surrounded by death. You can see a spark in Sidney, like she's glad to have someone outside of Dewey and Gail who can understand that. She doesn't trust him yet, but you can see that she's surprised by hearing that from him and that it echos here feelings.

[@BenSoloakaKyloRen]

My take on Judy: Judy could still be a character in Stab 8. I think a lot of folks think stab 8 is entirely unrelated and strays too far from the original stab (as explained in the film), and therefore, Judy can’t be in the movie. But that’s not true-they are not mutually exclusive. Judy could be used as a character in stab 8, without the entire movie being based on events of scream 4. Could be a mixture of “inspired by real life events” and fiction. There are certainly real life examples of those products.

[@4YrStasis]

Where can we find them?

[@ruzzelladrian907]

Sheriff Hicks was overwhelmed by panic and emotion, because her son was in danger. She did not see it coming that Amber was waiting for her on the porch. I wish that Hicks had consulted Dewey, Gale, and Sidney on how to predict and survive. Because Gale and Sidney when they went to Stu’s house, again, they were like, “It’s a trap” and it was Amber that showed up on the porch. Anything familiar? It’s that little detail in Scream that makes it genius.

[@Luis-ov8eq]

Love all the plot swaps in this film: Whereas we would expect the jock type to die- Chad ends up surviving, a black female character finally makes it, and siblings don't turn on each other. Genius.

[@mikelowery6227]

It's all contrived. They even forced her to be gay.

[@Luis-ov8eq]

@@mikelowery6227 They did? They put a gun to her head and forced the gay upon her?! How dare they?!!!

[@saracoutinho3398]

@@mikelowery6227 Bruh Mindy's actress is gay in real life, she was the one who wanted her character to be gay

[@jppage659]

Should’ve been Wes, upset that his mom was left out to dry and wasn’t held in the same high regards as the other legacy characters. Then it still could’ve been Richie as a Judy fanboy. Imagine if Judy made it to the finale to find out her son was the killer, doing it in her name

[@rahbeeuh]

But Wes was a nod to Wes Craven. They weren't gonna make him a killer

[@jppage659]

@@rahbeeuh I get that. But I think the dynamic of a living legacy character having a kid was wasted.

[@silentsaturn7604]

@@jppage659 Judy is not really a legacy character. She was a minor character in a third sequel.

[@jppage659]

@@silentsaturn7604 you proved Wes’s hypothetical point in this hypothetical scenario

[@rahbeeuh]

@@jppage659 she's not really a legacy character. She's more on par with whatever comes below that but not a newbie.

[@williemillybobybrown4135]

I’m half and half on Stu returning. I feel like it would be awesome seeing him back and he could upgrade on kills, I feel if he returns and with the visions of billy loomis being present to sam would just make the franchise a bit chaotic. Especially if we don’t get a lot of Sidney and more films. If we get a return of Stu maybe Angelina could return too since her death wasn’t confirmed in the Scream pamphlet they had of the characters who died, she was not on there. Stu and Angelina team up boi lmao - that would also make it chaotic but twisted lol

[@redtailedhawkdude]

I kind of feel like if they bring Stu back it could be 50/50. They might make him another killer but also they could make him remorseful for his actions. Billy was basically the ringleader and it was really all about Billy, Stu was following along so I could see them trying a redemption arch with Stu, which would be fun as well. I love Matthew Lillard so I'd love to see him come back regardless

[@rahbeeuh]

There's a Collider video that interview the directors and they confirmed that Stu is dead. As far as Angelina she's dead. The pamphlet is probably an oversight.

[@jennifermoriarty2188]

I like the idea of him being in prison and pulling the strings of crazy fans

[@matthewdelong3419]

It was a great film. I dont think the motive of the killers were bad and how the fans reaction to it proves the theme of the film right.

[@StonayBalogna]

So we’re being toxic fans by realizing how lame the motive was? lol They wrote a lame motive so they backed themselves up by commenting on toxic fandom to where we look bad if we complain?

[@dvonnlynch1607]

@@StonayBalogna Doesn’t it make the killers even more unhinged knowing that there wasn’t this concrete motive? Stu didn’t really have a motive at all. He was just insane.

[@wdgaster7791]

@@dvonnlynch1607 Let's also kick in the fact that these motives are very much a reality. There were actually killers irl that took reference from Scream and killed. Toxic fandom going too far, is exactly what they were poking at and they got it right. It's not a bad motive, it was a good set up, and it comments on modern problems. Just like every Scream movie has done.

[@raymondlaspina7870]

@@StonayBalogna I don't think the motive was ever important, it's the point Billy was trying to make in the original movie. Also people that kill for no reason are scarier than people that have a concrete motive.

[@tgiacin435]

@@raymondlaspina7870 Billy might have said that, but he did have a motive.

[@zachdanner6679]

Something I have always wondered was that in Scream 1 when Casey’s parents find the house wrecked Casey’s father says to her mother “Drive down to the McKenzies” implying the McKenzies were the neighbors of the Beckers. Liv’s last name is McKenzie and given Scream 2022’s emphasis on them being related to the original murders, I wondered if Liv was somehow related to the neighbors of Casey

[@pattierotondo1108]

Maybe. They do like to link everyone in Woodsboro together. The reason that Casey's father says that during the beginning of the original Scream is as an homage to the movie Halloween from 1978. After Laurie Strode thinks she has killed Michael Myers, she gets the children out of their hiding place, then tells them to go to the McKenzies and ask them to call the police and send them to where she is.

[@samanthakoller533]

And in Halloween H20, Jamie/Laurie tells her son and his gf to go to the Becker’s house before smashing the control panel, locking herself in with Michael. (Kevin Williamson was involved in the writing of H20 also)

[@vincetarallo5279]

The twins are still my favorites of the new cast. Also the fact that they are both pretty savvy about surviving and do make it to the end is a nice sorta avenging moment for their uncle.

[@givemeliberty700]

I like Mindy but the brother bothers me I wanted him to die lol hopefully he will in scream 6 , there can only be one "randy" and Mindy is def that bitch

[@latayesha]

@@givemeliberty700 why did you not like Chad? I'm curious

[@givemeliberty700]

@@latayesha i didn't care for the actin or his character really but I guess that could be due to reading

[@latayesha]

@@givemeliberty700 Ok. Thanks

[@givemeliberty700]

@@latayesha no problem who's your favorite killer lol

[@officialchristopher]

Another way to look at the Stab inconsistencies is that even tho Stab didn’t base the rest of the movies after 3 on Sidney Prescott, they could have still used the character in other ways. Possibly they bring Judy in Stab 8 to prepare her for the next movie “Scream 4/Stab 9”. They probably are just forgotten and not paid enough attention to moments but, this would be a decent work around.

[@TargetHHH101]

I loved the Billy Loomis visions, the de-aging was fantastic. I like how Sam would resist it but eventually give in to the genetic aspect, gave me star wars vibes, where anakin gave in to the darkside and became darth vader, and luke had the evil in him and it came out a few times. Roger Jackson is the real mvp of this movie, he had so much to work with and it was executed flawlessly.

[@rahbeeuh]

Being a psycho isn't genetic but movies would like us to think so.

[@deprimada3560]

Really? Its a disrespectful and downright weird way to present this mental illness. I find it tacky

[@TargetHHH101]

@@deprimada3560 Stop being soft. its a movie get over it.

[@MichaelAMyers1957]

She never even seen billy before but yet some how sees billy from his final moments ? It was a stupid thing to add in.

[@TargetHHH101]

@@MichaelAMyers1957 Its a small town, its gonna be big news, even before they made a movie about it. Could have been pictures or news clips. Who knows.

[@ciciriddick]

I am so with you on this point 30:10. Dewey survived seven Ghost Face's and they go and have him make a rookie mistake like that. That was a bunch of Halloween 6 b.s. David Arquette knows he's wrong for allowing them to do that to his character.

[@pattierotondo1108]

It still upsets me that, after all Dewey has been through, that they would kill him off this way. Amber is NOT good enough to take him out. He should have gone down maybe taking a bullet for Gail.

[@almosthalo]

I thought the motive was horrible. I honestly thought it was the family members/relatives of the original victims getting revenge on the family members/relatives of Billy and Stu. How the deaths of the victims of part one deeply affected their families. As every year that goes by its more of a joke to what happen to the victims ( people enjoying the movies based on real murders, etc.).

[@carrbender]

So, as I said in the non-spoiler review, I’m an extra in this movie. I was the party goer that yelled “buzzkill” to Richie and Amber after they break up the party and kick us all out. Now in hindsight, I may have accidentally hinted at them being the killers

[@rahbeeuh]

Hey, I remember that comment. Were you actually there or was it just audio like Hayden Panettiere and Adam Brody in the "For Wes" toast?

[@carrbender]

@@rahbeeuh It actually was me, LOL

[@d.52555]

Wow that’s cool! How’d you become an extra for the film?

[@re9246]

The thing that made Dewey’s attack more believable is that he checked his phone because it was Gale. That hurt. It also irked me that they gave all the credit to Billy. Roman needed a call out

[@Gibbypastrami]

Does the public know the intricacies of Romans life? His parentage or his impact on the story?

[@rachael7706]

I'm so happy that you also understood and liked the motive of the killers. I'm in a group on FB and there were so many people who thought the motive was dumb or unrealistic or etc. But as someone who is around toxic fans, it was completely in the realm of things that a toxic fan would do. Especially in the scream universe. Also! I enjoyed that Gale made it a point that she wouldn't write about them because they should be forgotten. They were toxic and shitty and those sort of fans should be forgotten when it comes to something you love.

[@jonaskeller4687]

I thought the whole "How can fandom be toxic? It's about love" bit was also a nice way to connect toxic fandom with more personal toxic relationships. Richie bragging/slut-shaming Sam for sleeping with him was a good callback to Billy manipulating Sidney into bed, and it drove home the point that what seems like love on the surface can actually be the exact opposite. I just wish there would have been some kind of conversation between Tara and Amber after the reveal. We never really saw Tara deal with finding out it was her best friend who brutally tortured her.

[@JamaicaZ160R1793010A]

@@jonaskeller4687 Ah. You noticed it as well.

[@DomingoRiveraJr]

I know the Sidney being in seven Stab movies was an oversight or error, but in my head canon I explain it like this: In the run up to Scream 4, there was promotional material that included Gale Weathers' books. Amongst these were fictional books she wrote after the original trilogy based on actual events concluded. The fictional books that presumably the subsequent Stab movies were based on. These books followed Sidney's fictional daughter Ashley Prescott. The Stab movies could have been about Ashley and thus indirectly include Sidney in the story or have a highly fictionalized version of Sidney. They said Stab 5 had time travel so it could be possible they retconned Sidney's story. This could be an in-universe explanation. Also, since they were not allowed to use Sidney's story and Scream 2022 already mentioned Stab 8 was completely messed up and unrealistic, Stab 8 could have had Deputy Hicks as a character but the story and other characters may have been completely made up and very loosely based on the events of Scream 4.

[@scottchaison1001]

¿?

[@VegasAceVII]

What are you doing?

[@MusicalRomancegrl]

I liked the hallucinations-it was a very pleasant surprise the first time, and then each time he showed up I could feel Sam trying to ignore/not give in to the dark thoughts. I had a lot of empathy for her in those moments because I know how exhausting it can be when your brain tries to convince you of something that just isn’t true

[@hoaxheaux]

I actively avoided all marketing and socials for Scream 2022 (however I did watch the trailer once, but tried not to overanalyze any of what I was seeing) and was SO EXCITED when we got the Macher house reveal! What a cool moment, but yeah rewatching the trailer, it's totally right there if you paid any amount more attention than I paid.

[@rahbeeuh]

Same. I avoided everything I could dealing with this movie

[@dommevida_8721]

The killer duo has to be an homage to the leaked killer duo of scream 2: Derek/Richie and Hallie/Amber being fans of the genre/franchise and meeting on a forum. Derek/Richie being the boyfriend and Hallie/Amber being the best friend. Derek/Richie and Hallie/Amber being a secret couple (Derek calls Hallie honey after their reveal and Amber calls Richie babe). Richie wearing a similar shirt to derek and getting his arm injured. Derek and Hallie want to make a sequel, Richie and Amber want to make a better requel. Too many coincidences in my opinion.

[@LE-zy2od]

Oh wow. Maybe they thought enough time passed to do the original scream 2 . As in hoped fans would forget it

[@DemiseHarp]

I never understand people that say serial killers in a movie have a "bad motive". As if there's some motive out there that will justify anyone becoming a serial killer. No motive will ever be strong enough to actually justify murdering innocent people, the killers are unhinged and their motives will always make sense in their own heads, no matter how stupid they seem

[@scottchaison1001]

Exactly.

[@UtterlyHooves]

No ones talking about murdering being justified. Come on now lol

[@Joker_JAK]

@@UtterlyHooves The point is when people say that the motive is stupid, they don't seem to realize that EVERY motive is stupid. There's no good reason to kill a bunch of innocent people.

[@VegasAceVII]

That's not really the conversation. It's more that of all the films, this has a very weak motive. Especially, in the sense that they never made a plan to get away with it. Framing Sam was just part of it, they never really did explain what their exit strategy was like the other killers. Its weak for me. they are all ridiculous reasons to murder because there isn't ever a reason to become a serial killer but this one-- the worst of all.

[@UtterlyHooves]

@@Joker_JAK you’re thinking like this is real.. this is a movie. People want something that makes them think wow didn’t see that coming. Like the original, or Billy’s mum seeking revenge.

[@tyagirodriguez4947]

I just realised that the thing Ghosface says about Sidney being in every movie but the last one, might not be a mistake after all. They could've continued to use their fictional version of Sidney if they didn't base it on the actual murders, so the Stab movies could potentially have been putting their fictional version of Sidney in completely made up scenarios and still not get sued

[@Joker_JAK]

That's what I say too.

[@JacobChase1998]

Explain with more detail. Not sure what you mean

[@rahbeeuh]

@@alexmoreira876 they couldn't use her name tho right?

[@alexmoreira876]

@@rahbeeuh Jenny says in Scre4m that Sidney threatened to sue them if they used her story ;)

[@jennifermoriarty2188]

@@alexmoreira876 But if it was made up...they could do it..

[@rosshadden6875]

Since the first trailer my first thought was there was going to be a female killer just by the way Ghostface moved. But seeing the movie this Ghostface was much more brutal with the multiple stabbings. I did notice Ghostface had to use both hands if the victim fought back.. still loved this movie overall! It did need a chase scene tho.

[@roxasora225]

I’m positive they’ll make another SCREAM due to its box office earnings…plus once they do, I believe Tara will become the new lead and Sam will get killed off, because if you pay close attention at the end of the movie when Sam is talking to Tara while she’s being tended to, she says “I’ll be right back!” Which of course is one of the top rules you are never supposed to say!

[@jonaskeller4687]

I kind of understood this as a signal of relief: It's ok now to say "I'll be right back" because the nightmare is over. You could still be right, of course. There is also the possibility that Sam - having gotten a taste of killing now - will eventually (say Scream 7) snap and there will be a half-sibling showdown mirroring Sidney/Roman in Scream 3.

[@dariadoo1]

I wonder what Richie would’ve done if Sam and Tara knew that you can definitely buy an inhaler without a prescription at any pharmacy. I guess a movie’s gotta movie. 😂

[@oskar_oskarewicz]

11:10 Yes, that's one of my tiny issues with Scream 2022 after the second watch. I wish they connection between Sam and Billy was told more in a way we were learning about Sid's mother. But I guess they simply didn't have time for that.

[@jonaskeller4687]

I so hope that a longer version will be released. There are snippets in the trailer as well that aren't in the cinema version. It won't fix the exposition dumps, but a few more minutes could benefit the movie (it doesn't need them as badly, though, as Scream 4 needed some of its cut scenes back).

[@INTJ91]

This is probably my second fave Scream film now. Just love it. I couldn’t believe how much I actually liked the new cast, I was expecting for them to just be disposable characters but I liked them all and was pretty sad Wes and Judy died.

[@YuvalAmiel3]

This movie was awesome! I can't believe you didn't mention the fact that Mindy was attacked while watching the exact same scene with her uncle Randy, it was GREAT. Also, Wes gotta be at least 15, so where was he at Scream 4(which happened at 2011)?

[@ImmortalBroken]

I don't remember knowing anything about Judy's personal life in 4, except for her being horny for Dewey, so she could have had a young son either being babysat a lot or living with his dad at least part of the time.

[@GabeGarciaYT]

I don’t know if you noticed on the final stab Sam held the knife above her right shoulder just like Billy would in Scream (1996)

[@timothystoytherapy]

I love how all the KZbin titles match your video titles. I really liked the parallel between Sam and Richie visiting Dewey and the podcasters in Halloween interviewing Laurie, both scenarios ending with a times up and door slap. I also struggled with how Richie could get to Tara and back to Sam in the opening. How far did Amber live away from Tara. It made me wonder if there was a third killer reveal to come, but it didn’t happen lol. I also thought Sam might release the billy and then twist ending stab Gale or Sidney and then credits. But I also knew Sidney wouldn’t die.

[@Edera_aby]

I completely agree with your vision of the Macher house. I think they shouldn’t have spoiled it, it should have been a surprise.

[@tyagirodriguez4947]

I have a little "criticism" towards your criticism of the new tech being used in the movie, because while I agree with what you said, I believe Scream has always kept up with new technology in all of their movies

[@magildachunks]

Right? Hell, that's why Billy having a cell phone in 1996 was such a big deal in the movie. When he tells the Sheriff that everyone has them these days, that was bullshit. Nobody had those. Back then it was beepers. Which is why it would have been easy for them to frame Sydney's dad for the murders if everything went to plan. Nobody would have believed that teenagers had cellphones, but their parents? Now that is more believable. so use her dad's phone to make some of the calls, and he's the patsy.

[@Siroky209]

I like when Sidney was in the house with the gun clearing the place, she looks to a closet door, thinks, then shoots into it. A nod to when she got attacked for that same closet in the first movie

[@rhiannenlmao4401]

scream 5 was honestly amazing way better than what i'd expected since we are sadly without wes but it was really well executed and so much fun to watch. also all the acting was great especially jenna ortega. i would've absolutely loved it though if sam was committing the murders and didn't know it i thought that's where the story was going right until the end 😭 i didn't think it was obvious with amber but richie i was suspect of bc it felt like he was trying too hard to be sweet and innocent but i also never noticed her bruises

[@rahbeeuh]

If they were gonna do that I feel like they'd have to tread lightly bc mental health is already stigmatized no need to further that narrative

[@TootieFruutie]

Great video Zack!! I really appreciate how you throughly explain your reasoning for each point you make, whether I agree or disagree with them, it’s super informative. You’ve turned my love for Scream into an obsession with your videos, keep up the amazing work!!! - love from Canada 🇨🇦 🖤

[@rahbeeuh]

*Zack

[@TootieFruutie]

@@rahbeeuh thanks for the correction :)

[@Darien4life]

We will most definitely be getting more hallucination scenes of Billy in the next movie until Sam gets some kind of character growth past that. It wouldn't make any sense for that to just be missing entirely going forward.

[@austin-w8j]

I really thought this movie was the best one done but not compared to the first one obviously. I do think this movie could lead to very promising sequels

[@rollypratt642]

You are so right about the effect of the house reveal being effective if you weren’t spoiled. I’m of the habit of avoiding trailers and all kinds of promotional material for movies I really want to see, so I had no idea before going in, and I really felt the full effect of it when it was revealed. It was great.

[@d3rtjester]

Zach. Please do a “who killed who” as part of your series you have done for the last 4 scream movies. They have copy cats out there on smaller channels tryna do what you do with the new scream and many people are upset they are getting it wrong. Thank you. 👻 🔪 🩸

[@docspopreviews4395]

I concur

[@rahbeeuh]

He probably will do it once the movie is released on DVD, Blu-ray, or streaming.

[@INTJ91]

Yes!

[@jaydonarchuleta5691]

Gonna be pretty easy since amber killed/attacked 90-100% of people in the film lol

[@jonaskeller4687]

​@@jaydonarchuleta5691 Actually, most likely both killed three people each: Amber killed Judy, Dewey and Liv. She also attacked Tara and Chad. Richie killed Vince, Wes and the policeman at the hospital. He also attacked Mindy. We know this because of a) being told/shown at times a solid alibi for the other killer (the attacks on Tara, Chad and Mindy as well as the murder of Dewey) or being shown the killer (Liv getting shot); and b) because we can deduce from the differing attack routines that Amber liked to stab repeatedly to the torso as she did with Chad and thus must be responsible for killing Judy as well, and that Richie liked to kill with one single blow to the throat as he tried with Mindy as well (he got her shoulder instead) and thus is most likely responsible for killing Vince, Wes and the policeman. It's not as bulletproof as Amber's vest, but it's the only clear pattern I can make out after having seen it three times.

[@dantewoodbeck3652]

Roman only planned his mom’s murder. The killings we actually see in the movie were Billy’s idea, not Roman’s. At least that’s my perspective!

[@paulb1311]

“I had no idea they (Billy and Stu) were gonna make a movie of their own”. Roman

[@dantewoodbeck3652]

@@paulb1311 yessss exactly! i thought i remembered him saying that!

[@atimetraveler4910]

@@paulb1311 "Alll the kid needed was a few pointers" this shows roman technically gave billy ideas. Now what these ideas were we will never know sadly.

[@andrewreece7312]

Gales reaction to his death really got me. Loved seeing the legacy cast again

[@scream7614]

I was looking forward to seeing a review from you about this movie, I loved the movie, I think we have everything to have a very good new saga, I believe that this "Revival" was much better than the Halloween one in 2018 , the characters are very cool, the deaths are very different, and I loved it, I LOVED the motivation of the assassins, this movie was very good, I was at the cinema, and when I thought the movie was getting into its half, it was already revealing the assassin, it is so interesting, I loved it.

[@daniellediaz2516]

Love the video. It makes me wanna go see the movie again lol. However, I disagree about Billy lol. I loved seeing him again and really LOVE how Skeet being apart of Scream 5 wasn't leaked to the public. It was really a surprise. Disagree about Stu, as Wes Craven has already stated that he was alive as he had done with Kirby. But everything else was spot on!! And for me to sit here and watch a KZbin video that was almost an hour, really says something lol. I usually give a video 10 minutes, 15 the most 😂. I absolutely enjoyed this! 😁💯🥰

[@boswelli]

Love this review/breakdown from you. Are you planning to do a "Who killed who" video soon?🤞

[@derpyturtle195]

I really love the parallels to the original like how chad is on the stretcher like Dewey, and how Mindy get's stabbed in the shoulder just like Randy who was shot in the shoulder. Let's hope they survive in the sequel this time around.

[@sketchtheparadigmyork1217]

By the way, I think all of the tech stuff is fine. EVERY Scream had tech that aged. ALL of them. And out of all of those, I think Scream does it well actually, because it’s not a phony pretend voice changer that can copy everyone’s voice… and landlines are definitely dead, so by that logic scream 1 is silly too. there has been news everywhere lately about people being tracked with air tags, I thought the tracker on the car was so smart and of our time. But you’re totally right, there was NO chases. Rudy running to the house was the most someone ran before getting stabbed lol ps 47:40 it’s hand sanitizer- a SUPER smart way to hint at covid without having a single mask in the movie

[@auroraeclipes]

i can’t believe during an hour long video i never got bored☺️ great stuff

[@MikeHawk728]

I think that I would’ve loved to have seen the Maureen murder as an opening scene tbh, with a flash of everything leading up to the new opening attack

[@MozartHerbert]

I was really surprised the movie didn't have a proper (and long) chase scene, specially considering all the people involved were in the making of Ready Or Not too, which is basically a bigger chase scene. I hate modern horror movies when the killer just pops up out of nowhere, kills and that's it, there's no construction of suspense :(

[@jonaskeller4687]

True, and that is kind of a pity. But it made sense within the story: Amber and Richie are cowards, they always directly attack from a hiding place. Any kind of fair fight would just be an unnecessary risk for them. And it mostly worked until Sam, Tara, Sidney and Gale got the surprise element on their side at the end.