You Must Balance Your Parts --- Twin Screw Adapter CNC Turning

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Zala Machine

Zala Machine

Күн бұрын

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@henri1511
@henri1511 5 жыл бұрын
Love these longer videos. It beats TV and totally relaxes me. Great job.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Love that people enjoy them. Looking to make them better and more interesting. Will do more in describing the parts and challenges with my face on video.
@essnoussiyassir1273
@essnoussiyassir1273 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect The boss must be happy if you index the turret with that big sandvik boring bar
@florian821
@florian821 3 жыл бұрын
Nice setup, i like it! Without tailstock, this is crazy.
@emilgabor88
@emilgabor88 5 жыл бұрын
Always is a pleasure to see some work from this machineshop
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Love showing my skillz
@brandonlepsch1143
@brandonlepsch1143 5 жыл бұрын
Great looking chips!!
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 5 жыл бұрын
Love some of your solution's to problems
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
The part is there I just gotta take it out of the material. No problems just obstacles.
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 5 жыл бұрын
That piece in this three jaw chuck, you're almost as crazy as I am and I mean it in a good way. If I ever move to New Jersey I'm coming to work for you, but I'm taking my Lathe and VTL with me so you better get a bigger shop by then. 😅😉👍
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Deal as long as you take videos and post them.
@davidmiller5832
@davidmiller5832 5 жыл бұрын
I'm here just for the thumbnail. That's Just BEAUTIFUL!
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
I missed a picture of the finished part after polishing. Almost too nice to sell.
@davidmiller5832
@davidmiller5832 5 жыл бұрын
@@zalamachineshop Well keep making these videos. I don't even need to watch porn after this. And who knows, maybe And maybe I'll stop hearing that "Bow chika Bow Bow" porn music in head everytime I go outside. I might even be able to go on a date, fall in love and discover meaning in my life. See, You gotta make more of this machining porn videos now! If you don't, who knows where my dreary life will lead. 😁
@bhavarkumavat3202
@bhavarkumavat3202 3 жыл бұрын
Some very deep grooves , how did you do the collision checking ?
@SoWe1
@SoWe1 5 жыл бұрын
17:30 when you're milling that deep in a part wouldn't a different tool and "downward" milling be better? So all the load goes right up into the spindle rather than sideways on the very long tool?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yea but I was looking for my roughing to leave as little as possible for finishing. I don't know how to program plunge milling like that. Not Yet.
@SoWe1
@SoWe1 5 жыл бұрын
@@zalamachineshop :-) when you learned show us hah
@spazzywhitebelt
@spazzywhitebelt 5 жыл бұрын
Any guesstimates on time for machining and CAM? You said there were 6 roughing ops for doing the 'groove' (when it's that big is is still a groove haha), did you have to keep sticking the tool holders out more and more?
@ukaszlubacz2143
@ukaszlubacz2143 5 жыл бұрын
Wszystko robicie w mastercamie?
@spazzywhitebelt
@spazzywhitebelt 5 жыл бұрын
There was a injector screw where he was cutting the flutes with an endmill and I believe he programmed that conversationally on the Mori Seiki
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 5 жыл бұрын
I thought he said in one video he used Esprit, could be wrong though.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Lukasz Lubacz prawie wszystko na Mastercam, czasami robie na Esprit, programy na Mori Seiki
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yea because of the tight space I had to break it down as best as possible. Ended up with the tool sticking out 4.0".
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 5 жыл бұрын
You will need a big piece of fish to go with all those chips.....nice work BTW
@hansdorfer3371
@hansdorfer3371 3 жыл бұрын
Balance is really important on such big Parts! Dont finish one side while the other is unmachined, you wont get a round part.
@bijaaaczxxx
@bijaaaczxxx 5 жыл бұрын
Hi , could you say something about quality control , because as I see , parts you make often have dimensions that are either inconvenient or impossible to measure when part is still in a chuck and scrapping such a big piece of material must be expensive . Does your machnie have a probe?
@gusmcgussy3299
@gusmcgussy3299 5 жыл бұрын
What????? Wtf u talking about???? Y obviously haven't a clue
@gusmcgussy3299
@gusmcgussy3299 5 жыл бұрын
What exactly is impossible to measure???
@bijaaaczxxx
@bijaaaczxxx 5 жыл бұрын
@@gusmcgussy3299 mostly about GD&T and organic shapes
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
There are hard to measure features in this part but I will show that in the full video. But mostly I measure everything easy.
@davidmendoza5186
@davidmendoza5186 5 жыл бұрын
That was a big boys roughing b'bar . Are you able to index the turret with it mounted in the machine or did it need to be removed after the operation?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
No indexing with this big boy. That's why I roughed and finished the inside together.
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 2 жыл бұрын
A bunch of years ago we bought a mori NL2500Y I wish so bad we had gotten an LB4000 we have trouble with the mori constantly and we've got a Captain L470 right next to the mori that runs circle around it and I know the LB4000 is twice the machine as the captain we have.
@roscosgrow9906
@roscosgrow9906 4 жыл бұрын
Why not use a RNMG , seems like a lot of wasted time with the 35 degree. Making large diameter ball valves on a 54 in vertical lathe out of inconel it gets the job done . It's a beautiful finish part anyhow .
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 4 жыл бұрын
With tool sticking out fo far I was fighting vibration. I don't use RNMG at all maybe I should. Thanks for the pointer.
@MarcinKryszak
@MarcinKryszak 4 жыл бұрын
Na suchara, bez coolantu? Great video.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 4 жыл бұрын
Dla pokazu.
@chatnik78
@chatnik78 5 жыл бұрын
👍 please more Videos like that with big Parts. How long do you needed for turning?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
It took about 20 hours for set up, programming and turning.
@ivanvazquez7465
@ivanvazquez7465 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Greetings from OSHA 😂
@Mr.Saephan503
@Mr.Saephan503 5 жыл бұрын
😐
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Who? OSHA Who?
@HH-Machining
@HH-Machining 5 жыл бұрын
How much do you decrease feeds/speeds Steel vs 4140/4340?
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 5 жыл бұрын
I would guess he's running between 6-800sfm for roughing and maybe 1000 sfm for finishing. It makes a big difference if it's HT or annealed
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yea but its all heat treated. So my sfm is around 420 for roughing and 600 sfm for finishing. I take it slower to make sure my inserts last enough for a few long cuts.
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 5 жыл бұрын
@@zalamachineshop ah, ya I usually run 4140/4340 HT at 450-500 for roughing and 550 for finishing so that makes sense. I love turning big stuff like that in those materials, all you have to do is set your load monitor and then let it run all day long.
@LifeKnowledgeSeeker
@LifeKnowledgeSeeker 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always. Just wondering why did you not use any growing tool for this part. Would it not work duo to the diameter-differences (For example = because of 100% vibration or so) or is it simply faster to use OD tools.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
I've had issues with large grooving tools vibrating as hell and braking tools in the middle of a job. This is a bit longer but my safer. I can set the tool and walk away for a while if I have to. Grooving might be faster and I do it in many instances but for these I prefer turning.
@AntonBelovAfrica
@AntonBelovAfrica 4 жыл бұрын
how much is 1 hour of your work?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 4 жыл бұрын
Between 80$-150$ per hour.
@shiro-r4m
@shiro-r4m 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@aaronhenderson4359
@aaronhenderson4359 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to turn some parts out that are that big, currently the largest parts I make are 3.75 inches in diameter. Small parts are getting old!!!
@tristinknee5650
@tristinknee5650 5 жыл бұрын
It can be pretty daunting. We don't usually get material with quite as much material to cut off as he did in this video, but some of our parts can be 63" in diameter.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yea Tristin Knee it gets scary and I've scrapped a few too over the years.
@aaronhenderson4359
@aaronhenderson4359 5 жыл бұрын
I work as a CNC lathe guy for a small aviation shop in Wisconsin that specializes in electrical components for small aircraft. Work with mainly stainless, aluminum, phenolic, delrin and g10. It's been a great place to get my foot into this trade but I'm ready to move into a more updated shop with larger work with less composite materials. Have 2 interviews this week with a gear shop and a cast iron foundry I used to work for before I got into machining.
@syraconchita
@syraconchita 5 жыл бұрын
why are you beginning with the smallest diameter to cut?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer to remove as much weight as possible in the first operation holding with hard jaws. Diameters are close enough where it is very safe. Most jobs I do prefer doing largest diameter first and then the smaller.
@alexgregg2466
@alexgregg2466 5 жыл бұрын
👌 What G50 did you have set for the facing op?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
I had it at 600 MAX
@rollin37
@rollin37 5 жыл бұрын
Is that for a conical twin screw?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Wunderbolts
@Wunderbolts 5 жыл бұрын
It’s mind blowing that parts exist where the material removed can be hundreds of pounds
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yea and I still see larger parts for quote that we can't handle. I need a bigger Vertical Turret 5 Axis Lathe.
@Davemcmasters
@Davemcmasters 5 жыл бұрын
Can I come work for you and learn from you? Great programming and i love working on big parts.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a good/eager/bright/energetic CNC Lathe Operator/Programming Assistant right now. Will post add next week.
@Davemcmasters
@Davemcmasters 5 жыл бұрын
@@zalamachineshop I just downloaded fusion 360 and learning more programming from titans of CNC. My long term goal is to be a machinist/programmer.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
@@Davemcmasters Where do you do ur trade? If you don't mind hard work, sweat and tears than I'll teach you all you need to know in 1/2-2 years.
@Davemcmasters
@Davemcmasters 5 жыл бұрын
@@zalamachineshop I'm in buffalo New York.
@matt23727
@matt23727 5 жыл бұрын
Part diameter? Starting weight and end weight?
@spazzywhitebelt
@spazzywhitebelt 5 жыл бұрын
30 seconds in for stock info, 19.5" diameter ~1200 lbs.
@nikolaiownz
@nikolaiownz 5 жыл бұрын
Okuma?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Both Machines Okumas
@nikolaiownz
@nikolaiownz 5 жыл бұрын
@@zalamachineshop nice. I love my old okuma lb lathe.
@kimtv1891
@kimtv1891 5 жыл бұрын
Machine good
@kisspeteristvan
@kisspeteristvan 5 жыл бұрын
544.31 Kg dude , my back hurts :)) . what were the parameters for the od rough operation ? like 5mm per side ?
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir 5mm or .200" per side.
@MrGabin84
@MrGabin84 5 жыл бұрын
Great joooob 😍
@LuisRamos-zn3ml
@LuisRamos-zn3ml 5 жыл бұрын
If you finish your center work first, then put your your Tail stock in with a plug, it will help ur chatter and save you insert life. Plus it will help with not killing ur hearing lol, keep up the good work bro.
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Many a ways to skin this cat.
@rudolfred5097
@rudolfred5097 4 жыл бұрын
Зачем такая большая заготовка?
@TheExtream
@TheExtream 2 жыл бұрын
@9:44 holly sh*** dont index the tool or you get fired
@thetruth6872
@thetruth6872 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say you are totally clueless, but you got a ways to go
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Still learning I'm only 15 years in got 40 more to go.
@gusmcgussy3299
@gusmcgussy3299 5 жыл бұрын
6 ops???? Wtf??? I do parts like that all the time.... Shits roughed out in 6 min...literally 6 min.... Plunge with a 3/8 wide groove tool pulling a mean chip....
@zalamachineshop
@zalamachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
What tool you be talking about? If it works I'll take a video and give you credit. 4.0" deep
@kithjoman9728
@kithjoman9728 3 жыл бұрын
Risky second op
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
SHOULD ! HAVE ! COOLANT ! THE !! NOISE !! IS !! ATROCIOUS !!! AND !! TOO !! STINKING !! LAZY !! TO ! TURN !! IT !! AROUND !! ABSOLUTE !! PATHETIC !! WORK !!!
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