You guys should use this as a primer for a Playlist. Great explanation, with the right touch of mystery to it.
@Johnnyboy_. Жыл бұрын
Wow did any other swimbait fisherman get chills listening too this !
@Mrlemelle12 жыл бұрын
I absolutely luv listening to this guy's philosophy on swim bait fishing. It's inspired me to begin TRULY making it a lure that I use on a regular basis in my arsenal of baits.
@troycote4503 Жыл бұрын
Been addicted for to Swimbaits for 5 years now. In Massachusetts we occasionally get a 7 or 8. My PB is 7 on a Triple trout from Manny Chee.Lanciotti psycho trout works amazing!
@MrTightLines2 жыл бұрын
I am 7 minutes into this and I've had goosebumps, tears, excitement shivers...you name it, I think it's happened. hah! I live for swimbait fishing. So much so that I created my own bait brand back in 2020 making hand made cedar swimbaits. Mostly wake and cranks but I'm a top water junky. Establishing MTL Baits in 2020 was something that changed my life drastically and I wouldn't have it any other way. If I could find out if you enjoy wakes / wake n cranks, I would love to send you a couple of them to try. But if that's not your jam (and it seems like softies and glides are) then I take no offense in knowing that and won't send any. I just wanted to give back in any way I could to a legend that I've looked up to for many years now. Thanks for putting this video series out Chris, and here's to more years of finding "that one bite"!
@MrTightLines2 жыл бұрын
If you ever see this and are curious and genuinely want any, please feel free to reach out to me Chris. I'd love to make some special to you baits and send them your way. Even if you don't use them, you could display them. I'm extremely confident in the quality and craftsmanship of my baits, and if you enjoy wake n cranks then I know you will enjoy these as well!
@256bassfishing2 жыл бұрын
It's for real about the swimbait community! I've been trying to get a bunch of anglers in North Alabama to start throwing them more and eventually do a big swimbaitonly tourney. It's a very under utilized technique on the Tennessee River because it does have a huge population of Gizzard Shad and Skipjacks that glidebaits like the Arashi or S-waver imitates effectively. Places like the bluff walls and Ledges even in winter, creeping a swimbait within or just above the big bass suspending along them. My first big bass on a larger swimbait was a 4+ smallie on a Castiac 7" Jerky J Swim and I've been addicted since. It was watching guys like you that got me passionate about trying to break my PB 9lb 6oz largie and get into that double D club. I can't wait to buy some Dangerous Swimbaits to add to my arsenal!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
You’re going to have some fun with the rigged version of the Daingerous swimmer
@focusforlife2 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear. I've just started fishing around North Alabama in my kayak. I start pitching a swimbaits more.
@256bassfishing2 жыл бұрын
@@focusforlife I love primarily off Pickwick Lake, but do fish Wilson and Wheeler. I occasionally fish Guntersville, fished Neely Henry, Smith Lake and tons of creeks in the area. What's your primary body of water?
@focusforlife2 жыл бұрын
@@256bassfishing I've fished mostly Wheeler lake. Second Creek, Richland Creek, Cotaco Creek. I haven't had much luck but, I'm just getting back into fishing after 20 or so years. So, I'm learning how to bass fish again. I tried Guntersville for the first time last week. Again, without any luck. I'm having a good time though.
@davygravy127 Жыл бұрын
@focusforlife @256bassfishing9 I’m in Athens area and hit wheeler, Pickwick and Guntersville most. That new Daingerous swimbait is legit. Also crushing them on bullshads 8” and glides. Big baits starting to catch on down here slowly but surely
@kevinatwell97812 жыл бұрын
best one yet - you summed it up for me; if it weren't for big swimbaits I would have stopped fishing. Other lures are boring.
@natepatton13052 жыл бұрын
"Every single time they bite it they mean it." This couldn't be more true with swimbaits, I can vividly remember saying "Oh sh*t" on my first swimbait fish. Love the vid, Chris!
@laho11062 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Megabass Magdraft is awesome
@BmpFishing2 жыл бұрын
Nice work boys! You crushed this one.
@andybales73182 жыл бұрын
What is a swimbait? It's those big lures I'm so frickin' addicted to buying! 😄 Big wakes, big topwaters, big worms, big swim/glides...it's a serious addiction...a big 10" Rat, is the lure that started my big bait craze...so many cool big swimbaits on the market!!
@shake-n-bakebassin2 жыл бұрын
Dude I just started throwing swimbaits this past year!! I live in pa close to the upper bay and I broke my pb with a 7.84 on my second swimbaits fish and my first one was a 5+!! Dude I am hooked!! I will never not have one on the ready!!! It's a whole new world that is just so rewarding!! Great vid brotha!! Hopefully you keep going with the big bait content!!!
@Strick582 жыл бұрын
Always good to watch your videos Chris. I will always remember me being you Marshall in 2013 at west point lake in Lagrange Georgia, you're a top notch guy in my book. Keep up the great work and as always tight lines
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@atamagashock Жыл бұрын
I’m officially taking the leap into the swimbait world! Honestly it’s mainly because of you that I’ve decided to do it. Where I’m at is kind of a weird spot. We don’t have smallies and our large don’t get giant like Florida, Texas, Cali,etc. state record has been 10lbs for 43 years. But it’s time to chase those 5-8lb fish are lurking! It all starts Friday when my rod arrives. Thanks for inspiring
@Zaldaingerous Жыл бұрын
Niiiiiiccce 👊🏽
@JS-oy6nn2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I just really committed to swimbait fishing this year. 2022 was a really exciting fishing year for me and can’t wait for the water to start warming up in March.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
March is the best month for it 💯
@9792crosby12 жыл бұрын
You and Trait always knock it out of the park with y’all’s videos! Awesome video!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👊🏽
@garym22932 жыл бұрын
Been throwing now for 5 years nothing but big custom baits gets very expensive and the grind is real but the payoff is worth every bit of it I fished once 10 hours a day for 3 months with 0 results when I first started almost gave up then I figured out a little bit Then the magic happens the mojo comes now 5 years in and $30000 worth of gear and custom baits I will never stop its a true addiction best I ever had I dont fish tourneys I fish alone 99% of time nothing better Great Video!!! Cheers!! :))
@colfaxpersimmionfestival202 Жыл бұрын
Very true in North Carolina I don't think I've ever seen anyone on my lake throwing an 8 inch bait of any kind
@530fishing2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, love it when your videos are shot in this style. Amazing work, keep it up!!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 530 🤙🏽
@nullinger8212 жыл бұрын
Props to your Cutter and Cameraman this quality is awesome !
@brandonmartinez55502 жыл бұрын
Man I love your swimbait vids. I'm about that life and these types of videos keep me going and reassure me that I'm going in the right direction in bass fishing. Keep doing your thing bud.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brandon!
@mattblackwell44312 жыл бұрын
Man Zaldain I’m super excited to see you on the Nitro on tour this year! You were already LEGENDARY in my book but this move solidifies your LEGEND! Hope you wreck em and bring home that big classic hardware along with a big blue one as well! Stay Dangerous!
@mwswimbaits2 жыл бұрын
7:54 Chris really looks like one of us northern boys that fish big baits for smallmouth. Really cool to see this type of content. Can’t wait for 11 more.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
👊🏽🤘🏽
@JasonBorofka2 жыл бұрын
Chris, I have never heard anyone explain it all better then you Brotha! 💪
@keenanmoore2642 жыл бұрын
Stoked for this series Great first episode.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keenan!
@josev29942 жыл бұрын
Awesome job on this one! I'm a swimbaiter here in NY and the looks I get never get old whipping around big baits. Love your content, keep it coming man!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jose 👊🏽
@CJStammFishing2 жыл бұрын
Stepping away from skeeter? Excited to see what 2023 brings you Chris! Bring home a classic trophy and a couple blue ones
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
I hope to fill the trophy case 👊🏽
@geenoulor83012 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to throw the new Daingerous swimbait this year! Looking forward to see big things from you in 2023🙌🏼
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
@RealMitchRappisBack2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the community here…. What a GREAT video!! Thanks. And Nitro/Merc??! Wow what a big change. Change is good.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Change allows us to expand and grow! This specific change allows us to do videos weekly & peel a few layers back on my every day life that people have been asking for a bit for with videos but I haven’t been able to make happen.
@RealMitchRappisBack2 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous it’s awesome. This whole bass fishing direction change is amazing. Thankful for you guys and other pros who put it out there. Ever get to Maine when it’s not cold as ballzzz… reach out. I have a honey hole of brown fish I would love help capturing! Lodging is free.
@raidernai66462 жыл бұрын
Great to see you at OH on Monday Chris. I started using big swimbaits because of you. Keep up the great work and content.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Good to meet you as well! Place is tough like you were saying 😆
@bounmysingvongsa6592 жыл бұрын
Megasbass magdraft👍👍👍
@burs_bobby_iaga2 жыл бұрын
Glad your back with the videos. Missed these.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Me too! More coming 👊🏽
@greghiday2 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. Love fishing the big swimbaits. Still learning new things everyday. Now you and big bro Zona are on the same team. Like the new boat.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Zona was a big part of why I joined the team. I really value his advice and glad to be a teammate with him.
@Josey4u2 жыл бұрын
100 percent has made me a better swimbait fisherman. Freaking gold brick here
@TheTrevordavison Жыл бұрын
Might be a dumb question, but how do you know what type of baitfish to imitate in a body of water? As far as which colors to choose. Lake Arbuckle, Oklahoma
@wesleymarkham33432 жыл бұрын
Love it man. Johnny is a beast.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Johnny Z is! 🐐
@svn452462 жыл бұрын
I’ve fished my whole life since I could hold a rod. I’ve caught so many 300lb + tuna trophies I was over it. I just started Lmb fishing almost 2 years ago and have been out practically every weekend since. Largest so far was a 7 but I’m still looking that trophy 10. Ive had a few wide open 100 fish days out here in SoCal and getting techniques down pretty well. But that big swimbait man. I’m all in now. I’ll be throwing that and only that I told myself until I get my 10. And I have no doubt watching your videos will get me there. My wife says if I could live out there I would. She’s right.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Im jealous of those tuna catches. I still haven’t landed one but we are trying to chase them this year if we can.
@911Getsome Жыл бұрын
Chris. How does it run with weed less setup. No weight. Like the 3:16 rising sun ?
@RexMoncrief2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Chris. Y'all are putting out great content - and great editing / production & audio quality.
@janosczovek85242 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video really appreciate it, please do a video on the bass mafia swimbaits thanks 👍
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@mitch57372 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, wish we had larger forage in my part of Canada.
@andybales73182 жыл бұрын
I've caught them on trout lures, even though the lake had no trout...just throw the big baits! It's a serious addiction once that 1st one is hooked
@Mjones83832 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa wait a minute, No Skeeter?? New beginning I'm assuming? Either way good luck to you and your entire family and yalls endeavors. Bring a Classic and a Blue trophy home this year, I have a great feeling
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! New beginnings and going to be able to do a ton of content this year. Should be fun!
@corymeyer11622 жыл бұрын
love your content. thank you and your team.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@BindeeVangFishing2 жыл бұрын
That was beautifully shot!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
🙏👊🏽
@HimynameisGalactik2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from European angler Chris, this year gonna be 🔥
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Greetings friend 👋
@cutlerbeard94302 жыл бұрын
Actually saw toy today, but didn’t want to bother you. Keep hammering man. And good call on not dealing with the wind today 🤣
@AngelGonzalez-xg4id2 жыл бұрын
Best Rod and Reel set up for any swim bait ???
@austinbarber84682 жыл бұрын
too notch. love the drive. keep on!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@basstex6703 Жыл бұрын
GREAT CONTENT.
@dipster142 жыл бұрын
Man! Not only did this video have me smiling from ear to ear, but it was informational, entertaining, and inspirational. I've been messing around with big swimbaits last year and beat my PB 5 times 🤣. 2023 will be my best year yet. I've already been stacking new tackle for early pre spawn in Connecticut
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome 👏
@dipster142 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous hey btw. I seen the bamf shad in the video. What's your opinion on em? I kill it here with shad profiles since our state fish is the American shad
@averageontarioanglers2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 🔥 we chuck some bigger baits up here in Ontario and occasionally get some huge smallies! A lot of casts but it’s worth it
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Now that the border is relaxed, we’ve been discussing coming across before St Clair and filming. Any suggestions?
@gambit_fishing10132 жыл бұрын
Hope to see you up here at Champlain this year chucking around the big baits. See ya there!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
You know it! 🤘🏽
@TeejStone2 жыл бұрын
Definitely makes me want to throw em here on santee Cooper! Great video, can’t wait for the next episode!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Ummmm you should!!! You see my Santee vid from this year?? It’s a great place to swimbait
@TeejStone2 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous heck yeah bro! Can’t wait to see you guys out here again this year!
@thehedgeknightnc36812 жыл бұрын
A very well put together seminar big Z. Good luck to you and your family in the coming season. (Once again, you Sir are my idol- Eric VonZipper)
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated 🙏
@jacobjohnson-hr2ip2 жыл бұрын
I love the use of this series to tease that zaldaingerous swim bait 🤙🏼. Great video and keep up the good work in both fishing and content creation 💪🏽
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👊🏽🙏
@paulbourcq2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff crew!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
👊🏽🙏
@corbintilleyfishing2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! First started fishing big swimbaits about 3 years ago here in Indiana and have never looked back. Have caught multiple 4-6lb Indiana bass on Huddlestons and certain Glides, which is pretty good size for Indy. Can't wait for the next vid!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!
@andybales73182 жыл бұрын
U ever try big rat lures? I've done well in Ohio...would think Indiana would be similar...and no bite is more addicting! They smoke it
@frantyf2 жыл бұрын
What a moving video man !!!!! By the way, where is the skeeter?
@mikeallison70892 жыл бұрын
Well Done!! So Good!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@jayb83292 жыл бұрын
Nitro with a merc this is something new for you bro good luck continued blessings 🙌 🙏
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay!
@ApKbob672 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love throwing large swim baits as well. Really like the new Nitro as well. Are you switching to the Z21 for the new year ?
@NolimitracingRC2 жыл бұрын
What hook with your new bait ..
@howcroft222 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@proambass80272 жыл бұрын
On my body of water the average bass is 2lbs or just under…watching your videos are what got me to buy my first Mag Draft. Still lookin for that muffin topper but she’s comin I can feel it.
@andybales73182 жыл бұрын
Try a big Rat lure on your body of water...a 2 1/2lb. Bass on a 10" Rat lure got me started on the big bait craze & continued into swimbaits...Magdrafts are awesome baits
@gregcoffey19742 жыл бұрын
Question,,, I live in east TN. I fish Cherokee Lake.. it's winter time now can I do any good trying the big swimbaits ? Or is it better to try during spring, summer, fall or just all the above ?.. I've actually got a pretty good collection of big swim baits that I've bought just because there cool as hell., Any certainly kind that anybody recommends ? I'm going to dedicate a full week to throwing big baits just to see if I can pull a big momma or old granddad out...
@EricRomines2 жыл бұрын
Local to these lakes as well. Hit me up if it works for you. I’d like to know 👍.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
You sure can!! Look for points that touch that Main river channel. Position your boat on the point and and cast out towards the break. Let it hit the bottom, then slow creep her back to the boat. This is the way 🦾
@shannoningle7221 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content ! Just started throwing one & to say I like it would be an understatement ,but is there a time of year they are more effective or do you throw them all year ?
@Zaldaingerous Жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I throw some version of a swimbait all year.
@muskybites5052 жыл бұрын
Great content, really good info, thanks! Btw, I love Skeeter’s but the front deck on that z21 is ridiculous. Should be a good change for you.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t have a clue how thought out their decks were until I got this loaner I’ve been using
@benclark13762 жыл бұрын
I was fishing a small creek in Illinois and saw a big smallie 18 inches. I threw a craw at it, didn't move. A crank bait, nothing. A spook, nope. I thought well that's it, it's just not bitting anything. Fished up creek some more, then on my way back I threw on a 5.5" boot tail swim bait. First cast it crushed it. Blew my mind that it was wanting a bigger meal. Now I have a swim bait tied on more then anything else and have found more success.
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
The most realistic (forage mimicking) bait you threw at ‘em. I can’t emphasize that enough to people.
@CannonPulliam2 жыл бұрын
Top notch!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👊🏽
@Von.Cannon2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was everybody else’s, NO SKEETER!
@chaseshiver69562 жыл бұрын
bad ass video man
@Cbartlettbo2 жыл бұрын
Loved it bro!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clint!
@johnharvey47572 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see you and Jon B hit O.H.Ivey this winter throwing big swim baits
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
I’m here filming now but I hear Jon B will be this way soon
@alford792 жыл бұрын
Addicted? Yup. Well said Chris
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
👊🏽
@vernonneal70502 жыл бұрын
From Skeeter to Nitro???
@WillMcGuire2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Calefisk222 жыл бұрын
When did u start running a nitro boat thought u where a skeeter guy ?
@robertfirasek52962 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I love big swimbait fishing. Do you throw large swim baits all year?
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do!
@the_kayakangler75252 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris what 13 rod are you using?
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Omen Black Swimbait Rod www.basspro.com/shop/en/13-fishing-omen-black-swimbait-casting-rod
@marsn98972 жыл бұрын
Any clues on the release date 👀
@HankG512 жыл бұрын
Nothing more exciting than having a big snook in Florida crush a big swimbait
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Oh dang. Bet that’s a BLAST
@approachingtarget.45032 жыл бұрын
Big fish? Swim baits of how many different styles?
@danielmiller62552 жыл бұрын
Rocking that Nitro I see👀👀 Also is that BRAID??? Running Braid on a swimbait setup is terrifying to me 😅
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Braid w/a swimmer def makes the butt pucker 😅
@Max-bassmaster Жыл бұрын
Bro, why do u got to make the music so heart touching the its only about fishing?
@johndoran73312 жыл бұрын
Love your vids bud! Quick question... do you think your commitment and dedication to the larger swim bait has hurt your chance of winning?
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Probably. It’s a fault of mine. I get bored with some techniques and refuse to do them when maybe I should play the game a little different.
@johndoran73312 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous Your the best in the industry of explaining on the water techniques brother. No comparison. Good luck this year!
@kevinmoua37922 жыл бұрын
Are you with Nitro now?
@Fishingmissions8272 жыл бұрын
Ben Milliken is the next guy in line look 👀 out 👀
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmm…
@danielmiller62552 жыл бұрын
lol
@MrAvsguy332 жыл бұрын
I recognize that area!
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Which one??
@MrAvsguy332 жыл бұрын
2:05
@jakehigdonfishing2 жыл бұрын
where’s the ultra ex and power poles?
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
That’s a borrowed boat in the video. My new boat arrives any day at the Cabela’s in Fort Worth, TX 😁
@jakehigdonfishing2 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous makes sense great video
@elidickerson65332 жыл бұрын
Have you ever fished in Kentucky
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
Kentucky Lake!
@kenbrown54492 жыл бұрын
I've had the bug for a while, even though I've never caught a 5+ on a swimbait. I keep throwing it. One of these days.
@andybales73182 жыл бұрын
Throw a big Rat lure to get your 1st big bite...then confidence grows from there with swimbaits...amazing how a 1-2 lb. Bass will smoke a 10" rat! Throwing a big topwater like that will give anyone more confidence for that 1st big bite, over a big bait u can't see
@byronhendrixfishing8393 Жыл бұрын
That sounded like TOOL rif before the smallie
@brandondodd79732 жыл бұрын
I'll be that guy, I love big Swimbaits. With that said it's not the be all when it comes to catching large bass. Josh Jones just caught a 60lb bag on a swim jig. Milliken fishing been hammering bass in the same state. In reference to him he is dialed in with livescope. For a professional to be on here saying catching one fish in 4 days in a trophy state is brutal. Yes big baits work great but putting the bait Infront of the fish is the key
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
I’m out here with Josh right now and he goes days without a bite, too, like right now on OH with live sonar. You just don’t see those videos. That’s the point of this series, to show all the work and how many days that go wrong until that one bite changes it all.
@hollywood_fishing2 жыл бұрын
Chris buddy don’t tell me you Switched up from skeeter man 😢but I get you got to do what you got to do
@timmvanderhill98202 жыл бұрын
Nitro???
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
You noticed Timmy CJ 😁
@jerzdev2 жыл бұрын
“Point hogging bully” oh yeah
@jeremyduncan91652 жыл бұрын
These big baits have consumed my brain and my wallet… lol. Keep BIG BASS HUNTING!!
@andybales73182 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with ya! I'll be eating nuts & berries in the woods here soon, if I don't stop buying big baits 🤣 such a lure junkie
@eastonhouse59412 жыл бұрын
I know the exact lake and spots he is fishing
@Zaldaingerous2 жыл бұрын
I fished 5 lakes here not just 1
@eastonhouse59412 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous yeah In the intro I noticed the lake that’s when I commented cause I thought you were just fishing that one lake but great video man keep it up👌👌
@eastonhouse59412 жыл бұрын
@@Zaldaingerous I just caught a 5lbr off that rock point by that lake patrol dock in the intro the other day on a magdraft
@masoncarvir2 жыл бұрын
dude please come to my lake and catch my fish. come on
@FreedomFishing Жыл бұрын
Swimbait Fishing: Match the Hatched, not the hatch.