Zambia’s Elections: Can Hichilema Save Democracy? - TLDR News

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[@Paranoid_Found]

Glad TLDR News is covering sub-Saharan Africa, which often gets overlooked despite its massive population.

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

Except South Africa, that country doesn't follow that of being overlooked

[@oceejekwam6829]

Zambia has a relatively small population given it's size.

[@alihorda]

not necessarily overlooked, just news only cover the n+1 coup etats and random wars which plague South Africa

[@Ajibolaa]

IKR it’s a welcome addition

[@fren111]

Because they are irrelevant

[@stormruner9183]

I feel that even if Hichilema wins, there won't be a transfer of power because he will be falsely charged and imprisoned for literally every crime ever, but hoping for the best.

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

Or a Coup d'etat, I think that is more likely, he has the support of the army after all

[@stormruner9183]

@@losdirectosdetroopa973 Yepp, pretty likely as well. I mean he can arrest Hichilema and than use the military to grip on to his power as you said.

[@Hrtt]

Southern African nations must intervene if Lungu refuses to transfer power to opposition

[@thatomogale9803]

That's exactly what I was thinking, and yeah South Africa should step up if he refuses to transfer.

[@clementyang3249]

Quoting Myanmar

[@nuzayerov]

Can we show some respect to Zambia's first President, even though he could have done a massacre to stay in power, he chose democracy.

[@nalat1suket4nk0]

Tbh i was impressed he had no problem

[@__chinmay__]

He may not be a good president for Zambia by making the country dependent on copper and making debt he gave up which made me get respect for him

[@nalat1suket4nk0]

@@__chinmay__ there is nothing bad with being depend it on copper, i don't think they knew the price was going to go down

[@ixamisus]

@@nalat1suket4nk0 being dependent on something/ or one thing is never good

[@mochalo4912]

yeah pretty weird if u ask me ; politicians generally don't give power not bcuz they r evil or bad , but bcuz they stole in the past and they have been promoting their friends in the military and all sort of posts (aka corruption ) , so they fear to be jailed or executed if they give power ; that president must have stroke a deal with the opposition before handling power

[@prometheus7387]

I'm ashamed of not looking deeper into sub-Saharan politics, great that this channel covers it.

[@simbamartens7192]

If you're looking for a channel that's talked about sub-Saharan politics I can recommend you one that just did an in depth video on South Africa: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3jVkGOHqtB4kNU&ab_channel=MyTake

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

Dude, I've been trying for ages. It's a nightmare to get any kind of overview on the current state of African politics in general just to get started.

[@jkalenga4665]

Never thought this day would come, I'm happy you've covered my country Zambia..... I've been watching you for a really long time

[@francisdrumz7893]

Glad to see another Zambian that enjoys this guy's channels.. bless up wechipondo

[@lightspeed2034]

Am here too! : )

[@charissam3048]

me too

[@francisdrumz7893]

@Charissa M I see you are a lady of culture... would love to hear your thoughts on our nation's future

[@lightspeed2034]

@@francisdrumz7893 lets form a group and call it the illuminate lol

[@AutoGamerZ_]

Hakainde won the election in a landslide, winning 58% of the votes against 37% for Lungu. Turnout was about 71%, even higher then previously expected. Of the remaining roughly 5% of the vote, 2,5% gone to smaller parties, and roughly 2,5% of votes were invalid. Lungu has conceded. There is one constituency left to count but that is obviously not going to change this result.

[@francismwale]

Those exit polls were spot on. HH has won and Lungu will peacefully handover power after he conceded this morning 16 Aug 2021

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

I think I am not the only one who wants a TLDR Africa

[@scotandiamapping4549]

I like that idea

[@NirvakiePie]

That's actually a good idea.

[@zachryder3150]

South African weighing in... *YES!*

[@okoswiata5850]

Same here

[@nabeelallie]

yo TLDR! the crash course history youtube channel is a nice example of content and staff expansion, though I can understand if money is tighter for you guys than them

[@emmanuelimasiku9760]

He said Bally wrong 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️... And Sata not Santa. Anyway I appreciate the coverage and opportunity to see the external perspective.

[@youngdave2]

🤣🤣 like what 💀💀

[@QuickProgramming]

as a Zambian, am impressed that your info was spot on, coz sometimes it seems the international community inst paying attention. keep it up!

[@SvensssonboiMapping]

Democracy may not be perfect, but it's thw best we've come with til this day.

[@cakeisyummy5755]

Anarchy:

[@lu881]

Not really. Singapore's anti-democratic policies, combined with proper economic growth has been the better solution it seems. As it inhibits the chaos and corruption that is inherent in democracies, but keeps the population *fed.

[@Denozo88]

@@lu881 it works when your city state is the size of Connecticut.

[@paulcruz168]

@@lu881 corruption is inherent to government. Many dictators are absurdly corrupt while many democracies are incredibly clean. The chaos thing is true, but that's just the result of letting people advocate for their opinions.

[@ipadair7345]

@@lu881 no, just, no. Singapore only works because it cannot afford to be a tyrannical regime and completely exploit its citizens, due to its very small population, small size, and almost no natural resources. So the government of Singapore had to invest in things which boost productivity of its citizens, and a lot of seemingly-democratic practices. However corruption is rampant in Singapore, as the government doesn't care about its citizens, has despotic election rules, and gerrymanders everything. Singapore is a government that probably won't fall, as unlike others it has to make sure its people are relatively happy, to get even a little bit of money, and power.

[@nabeelallie]

when you have an Africa subcategory under 'Pin Badges' then I promise I'll buy a badge but until then - miss me with finding African countries under 'Other' :( :( :(

[@davidkrishnaceeciousee3984]

The Opposition leader Hichilema Hakainde Has Won Elections and declared the 7th Republican President yesterday at 01:00am with a difference of about 1,000,000 votes against the Ruling Party. God bless you!

[@cageybee7221]

there was a time where zambia was one of the better places to live in southern africa, now that honour squarely falls on botswana. edit: spelling

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

It has always been Botswana :V

[@snare5903]

@@losdirectosdetroopa973 Good leadership + tiny population + natural resources is always a recipe for success.

[@AlecsNeo]

Corruption is a plague , people cannot be trusted to lead other people and do what's best for all. And no , i don't have a better solution :(

[@JL-ti3us]

Zambia used to have a leading role in contesting imperialism and white supremacy in Apartheid South Africa, offering military training, safe harbour, supplies and even broadcast essentially pro freedom radio stations across borders even into South Africa back in the day.

[@cageybee7221]

@@AlecsNeo africa is uniquely corrupt due to the nature of the colonial regimes which preceded the current nations, militaries seized power in most places and alot of war and economic upheaval took and takes place, and this all breeds corruption in government.

[@Soilfood365]

While I am always delighted (regardless of context) to learn that people outside Zambia know we exist, it was Michael Sata, not Santa.

[@morningdew2309]

Well he could have been Santa as in Santa Claus but he turned out to be the Grinch.

[@tendaifushai5651]

Lol ... "Zambia began to look like it was going to be the first functioning democracy in Africa" Let me be clear: YOU NEED TO RUN YOUR STUFF THROUGH AFRICAN HISTORIANS. There were functioning democracies in Africa before 1991.

[@HaydenPlaysGames]

The Zambian people deserve a say in how their nation is run, my hope is in the prevailing power of justice and the will of the people, godspeed Zambia.

[@OnganiBandaThe1st]

*UPDATE Thank you for this video. It represents my country's politics well despite that sadness to it. we hope for change & I voted for Bally. *HH has become the 7th president of Zambia!

[@tamu7243]

Norway, like many other European countries, have donated money to Zambia to aid development and provide food and education for poor communities. But it was later shown that the donation did not go into the intended causes, but rather in the pockets of corrupt Zambian politicians. This lead Norway to no longer donate financial aid to Zambia, and also withdrew their embassy from Lusaka. The Norwegian embassy in Zambia was relocated Lilongwe in neighbouring Malawi. I don't remember exactly when it happened, but I can assume it was under Lungu's government.

[@zedkuchalo]

Lungu's regime is a cancer. The second president during the MMD regime, Mwanawasa, was a great, visionary leader who fought corruption with all he had. Unfortunately, he passed away halfway into his second term in 2008. Everything went downhill from there. Now three presidents later, I hope we have chosen the right man for the job. The only good thing we have now is our low crime rate. Everything else is shit.

[@mumaachilekwa5183]

As a zambian I would really love to say u sure did your research on this, and an update Hichilema won, and the inauguration was today 24th August. Hoping for the best

[@kaolemutoti2041]

The exchange rate for dollar is k15.97

[@kassimbabika]

Watching every one of these dictators in training reading from the same playbook and making the same mistakes and ultimately, knowing the outcome of it all is just heartbreaking...

[@ragephil5609]

Who's here after he won?

[@Ellipsis115]

How the U.S. found the 2016 elections to be free and fair is beyond me, the criteria needs to be changed holy hell.

[@domenstrmsek5625]

Or 2020

[@Cheezcurdz-xx4rf]

*sleeps in Zambia after the election 5 days ago* "WAKE UP, WAKE UP! HERE TAKE THIS HELMET AND THIS RIFLE WE ARE HITTING THE RIVER SIDE IN 5!"

[@mazmurelvictory5755]

I read the title briefly as "Zombie's Infection" I am so sorry 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

[@countbinfaceglobalpresiden7926]

Haha dyslexia be like:

[@mazmurelvictory5755]

@@countbinfaceglobalpresiden7926 confirmed 😅

[@tago3860]

lolll

[@tago3860]

OMG, what was your first thought?

[@mazmurelvictory5755]

@@tago3860 "Zombie's Infection upsets Africa" and I was 😳, but I read it again and it's actually Zambia

[@zenge.simakoloyi546]

Hakainde Hichilema (HH)has won the election with a 20% margin to Edgar Lungu. HH got 59.3% whilst Lungu got 38.8% of the vote. He has now been sworn in after the constitutionally mandated seven days. Lungu ironically initially questioned the fairness of the election but conceded defeat on the 16th of August and handed power peacefully. This makes it the 3rd peaceful democratic transition in Zambia from one party & president to the other.

[@sirarthur6463]

@TLDRNews can you do a video about the current ongoing Malaysian political crisis

[@avgeek707]

I would put this in the Suggestions form, it's a good idea.

[@makoya9418]

Thanks for covering Zed!

[@NirvakiePie]

I'm 15 and I live in Scotland I've always wanted to vote in an election since I was 10.

[@georgewright4285]

Sorry mate, but you still ain't mature enough for that. But don't worry, you only have three more years to go

[@tomandrews125]

you are eligible to vote in Holyrood elections when you are sixteen.

[@sicgc7658]

@@georgewright4285 less than a year; you can legally vote in Scotland at 16 - and there’s the council elections next year!

[@domenstrmsek5625]

As your flags suggest thanks God that you are too young to vote

[@georgewright4285]

@@sicgc7658 I actually didn't know that. I hope that lad uses always his vote and doesn't skip any election

[@sichonechanda5259]

Politicans in Zambia have learnt that they cant mess with us. Lungu was fired - my vote contributed to that and we the youth will do so again if HH loses touch with the reality on the ground.

[@dairebulson7122]

Looks like Lungu's conceded defeat now...

[@okoswiata5850]

Uwaw... Finally another review on sub-Saharan country elections..!

[@catherinesikazwe86]

HH won by landslide and he is definitely going to return democracy and normalcy to Zambia. Hearty congratulations to him!!!

[@kabwempundu79]

I am Zambian, and I'm happy that we are having a new president. However, this guy's research is shallow and abuses stereotypes and his comments come with many errors.

[@carldrogo9492]

Just be happy that he covered your country you charlatan.

[@rotor7726]

@@carldrogo9492 dude calm down

[@johntaylor28]

Sata and not Santa. Phonetically = Sah-tah and not Father Christmas.

[@jadeddigger9291]

Former British colony becoming a democracy LOL TLDR has the best jokes.

[@jadeddigger9291]

@le meme lord What you mean The United States, the Democratic Republic which elects its president? Yeah, um they had to fight a war to have that right… as for the many other British colonial possessions they didn't get to have a strong separation of powers rather they just got one big strongman to replace the Queen and her tyrannical Governor Generals.

[@threecards333]

India, Australia, Canada, Jamaica, Belize , and Malaysia are all functional democracies

[@domenstrmsek5625]

@@threecards333 Jamaica???

[@jadeddigger9291]

@@threecards333 Um no Australia’s had 3 military coups, Canada has faced its own constitutional crisis’s from Quebec as a result of placing multiple minorities under martial law, India has very limited freedom of the press not to mention an impoverished population but again no coup mainly due to the fact that it doesn't have an insane Governor General, Jamaica has also declared multiple states of emergency as a result of ongoing political violence finally Belize is also incredibly impoverished and also suffers from high rates of crime..

[@paranoidrodent]

@@jadeddigger9291 (raised eyebrow) The Rum Rebellion in Australia happened nearly a century before the place became a unified dominion, nevermind a sovereign nation. I have no clue what other events you are describing as military coups but I suspect that they predate Australia having full sovereignty too. Your grasp of Canada's history seems very peculiar, and I say that as a member of the country's French speaking minority. Yes, we definitely inherited a mess in ethnic relations from the British colonial period. Aside from the 1837-38 rebellions (which are generally celebrated in Canada today even if they were suppressed at the time), the most noteworthy instance of martial law would be the October Crisis. That was a heavy handed response to a terrorist group and while it did produce resentment, there was originally public support for the move. It was also a short time that happened half a century ago. The national unity crises and Quebec secession referendums that followed were constitutional crises, yes, but entirely peaceful ones. While no political system is perfect, it's patently absurd to suggest Australia and Canada don't have functional representative democracy. Hell, Canada's system has peacefully handled two secession attempts in a democratic fashion. These two countries tend to consistently get rated among the healthiest democracies in the world (not saying that the politicians aren't *rseholes - most are - just that the systems are functional). Quebec's historical issues with economic inequality were generally redressed in the late 20th century and the national unity/secession issue has largely been driven by differing political and cultural aspirations. That said, it has been a peaceful debate using the existing political system (aside from the aberration of the October Crisis a half century ago). It isn't driven by oppressive conditions, martial law or a broken democracy but by a different visions of the federation, an ethno-linguistic group debating how much autonomy it needs to feel culturally secure and different views of history, culture and identity.

[@isaacchasaya1982]

South Africa is like a son to Zambia... Ask Tomtin! As Zambia we are the pioneers of Sadic and many more fruitful organisations. One day the world will agree and respect Zambia.

[@isaacchasaya1982]

Thank you for 1 like.

[@eliaschabinga6576]

Thanks for the coverage TDLR. Been following this channel for a long time and it's a great move to cover subsahara... Zambia has for long demonstrated that democracy works and this willingness to transition has always aided the rescue of the country from failing regimes. The transfer will be peaceful and inauguration awaits.

[@eliaschabinga6576]

#Bally

[@purpledevilr7463]

1:26 what!? Is that why the worlds gone so down hill?

[@RealAshjit]

This sounds a lot like what's waiting on South Africans :)

[@JL-ti3us]

It wont happen anytime soon, ANC dominates too much to need to rig elections. Maybe they will two or more elections from now when they lose their majority as their support slowly declines.

[@simbamartens7192]

If you're an in depth video on South Africa and where it's headed after the current crisis I'd recommend: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3jVkGOHqtB4kNU&ab_channel=MyTake

[@JL-ti3us]

@@simbamartens7192 saw this too awesole take

[@rogerclayton4278]

Great assessment of history and pre election non level playing field predicting the eventual result as was to be!

[@WanderTheNomad]

Hehe, "UNIP"

[@theodoregiftmoonga1880]

Bally endured a lot for his people. Many of his closed friends abandoned him due to mounting political pressure, but he and faithful ones such as Garry Nkombo, Cornelius Mweetwa and others stood firm till a new dawn came

[@johnallen7807]

I'd struggle to think of a single African country that has been democratic since independence, an absolute scandal since it is the richest continent on earth.

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

😂Kinda hard to be Democratic when our best leaders were all slaughtered by westerners. Just look at the DRC.

[@johnallen7807]

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 Come on, you can't keep blaming the "colonialists", most British colonies were given their independence in the 50's/early 60's, most of those leaders died from natural causes after looting massive amounts from their country, Idi Amin for example who died in Saudi Arabia or Robert Mugabe. Even South Africa, where Zuma who spent $15million on his ranch, is in prison for contempt of court and wealth inequality is higher than it was under apartheid!

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

@@johnallen7807 I didn't blame any colonialists did I? I said slaughtered by westerners and gave the example of the DRC... CIA were not colonialists yet they were there as they butchered Patrice Lumumba. Is it a coincidence that democracy is thriving in the countries where western intervention did not feature. Like mine?

[@johnallen7807]

@@ishaannag4545 So how many years before you face the fact that it is home grown kleptomaniacs who are responsible for the mess, one hundred years, two hundred? My last gf was from Ghana, she now lives in England, you had to pay bribes in Accra to even get a drivers licence!

[@johnallen7807]

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 Where do you live? Botswana seems about the only country that is relatively stable. The main underlying problem is tribalism e.g Zimabwe where Mugable used North Korean trained troops to slaughter the Matabele or, even worse, the civil war in Nigeria.

[@nizasikazwe862]

Thanks for covering my country.. UPDATE: HICHILEMA AKA BALLY won the election and we have a crazy breath of fresh air in the country now.

[@xavierkmuneku]

As a Zambian I'll ignore the fact that you butchered Sata's name, you pronounced it as Santa instead of Sata... Zambia under the ruling PF has been a mess for the common folk and it's not a secret. That's why the turnout was so massive in this year's elections because people want to voice out their frustration through the ballot paper... If the electoral commission of Zambia doesn't mess this up like last time, surely Hichilema is going to be the 7th president of the Republic. The current ruling party had its own chance they did what they could and now it's time to hand over power.

[@Acrnavy]

I hope all goes well in your country

[@emmanuelimasiku9760]

He also said "Bally" in a funny way aii🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️.... Smh.

[@levychitula6949]

To me ,the all story is true

[@XiuLiwa1996]

I cant believe this has been happening in Zambia. My eyes have been focused on Zim and SA….

[@chindi17]

Great job. I am impressed with your pronounciation of Zambian names as a Zambian American except for Sata which is understandable as some Zambians also mispronounce it. All the information was great. I am originally from Zambia and learned much from your KZbin video. Recommending it to my Zambian friends and relatives.

[@kumbaya69421]

Talk about the fall of Kandahar

[@paranoidrodent]

At the rate things are going in Afghanistan, they might as well prepare to cover the fall of Kabul.

[@Mickie551]

Nice to see Zambia being featured on the world stage

[@franklinlindunda9033]

This is a very welll analyzed video. But an update for everyone reading this, HH is leading by over 1 million votes while pf only has votes under 600,000. It times for a change in our governance. 😌

[@TRDPaul]

God damn, I can understand how falling copper prices in the 70s caused a problem but copper prices have been insane over the past few years, they really should have been able to stabilise and, if the country was being run properly, be incredibly profitable

[@swaritahmedshadman4033]

Hichilema won.

[@codasa401]

This is a great report. Very factual

[@MusondaMapaalo]

Great video. 2 things though 1. It's Sata pronounced (Sah-tah) not Santa 2. Bally won the election I cannot wait to watch the follow up video to this one.

[@skepticaljoy9351]

This really pisses me off 😪 because pf and Lungu really messed up Zambia

[@dumisanimulasikwanda6658]

Lol I’m Zambian and I heard a Brit say “Santa” instead of sata

[@TulipaBigDipa]

Good summary & good video. Please do better on the pronunciation of our names & terms though. His name was Michael Sata not Santa, it’s Bally not Mbali.

[@nathan-iz2bq]

Hopefully we don't loose another democracy

[@decus9544]

Well, that's what happens when you vote in a party called the 'Patriotic Front'.

[@gloriousrobotbunny3275]

"you and i pee" xD

[@surak_0057]

Printing money is really popular among politicians

[@skystreem4860]

Bally is street language my guy 😂❤

[@As_Advertisedd]

Great and informative. I'm Zambian and I'd like to see your video analysis on the results of the election. BTW it's Sata not Santa.😂😀

[@mikicerise6250]

I was just about to ask a Zambian, "what did he mispronounce?" xD

[@michaelgreen1515]

Still making spilling mestakes guys!

[@morningdew2309]

I like that ' spilling mestakes '. 😂😂

[@anthonymanderson7671]

As a zambian, I think that lungu would not concede.

[@chawaphiri1196]

Update Hichilema won and he was sworn in on the 24th of August,2021

[@bwalyamukosha7836]

Are you gonna make a post-election video too?

[@mwenyanachela9843]

People now are using VPN in zed for social media communications

[@lazaruskakwayam]

HH will defend democracy.

[@heyitzhan8325]

The Virgin Zambia vs the Chad Botswana (no offence to Zambians, I refer to the management of governments, not the people).

[@elijahtheo5812]

😂 Not offended.

[@EpicnessYeet]

Well, he won, I hope this is a new start for Zambia.

[@bwalechitebeta3319]

From a Zambian perspective, not bad analysis

[@quinhoprimeiro1049]

Well now I hope everything that can go right for Zambia do happen until results can be confirmed

[@KhaalixD]

Great video! Where is the Global Summary?

[@siralimccoockie-monster8730]

😂😂😂😂 it's Michael Sata not Santa.

[@duolingo0552]

Phew panic over 😂

[@colinmacv]

Who won? Who’s next? You decide! Epic elections of history!!!

[@elijahtheo5812]

Hakainde Hichilema of the UPND won.

[@evilgenius919]

So what exactly caused the ballooning debt? Loss in tax revenue after cooper sales dropped or was there increased spending and losses do to corruption?

[@ixamisus]

I think its because of corruption

[@kasper7203]

Ah yes.. Expropriation without compensation.. The absolute worst policy ever imagined in Africa.

[@jbullionaire2749]

Santa died in 2015? 😲

[@elijahtheo5812]

It's Sata. He died in 2014.

[@Ajibolaa]

Love your videos please make one on Nigeria.

[@avgeek707]

The audio on this one is off, Jack...

[@mwapejoelMalama]

Bally justice prevailed

[@KanyantaMubanga]

Michael SATA, not Santa.

[@andrefouche9682]

Ballot stuffing, sounds familiar.

[@GobbiExists]

he did it hichilema did it

[@danielsykes7558]

THIS. I love interesting context

[@veejayroth]

Why am I not surprised by party called Patriotic Front not being very good for it's country?

[@jstantongood5474]

Food is in a bad condition.? Or the country?

[@mrkitty1997]

Your mic is blown out 😑

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

Gdp Grow 7 perdent annually for 13 year from 400 to 1900 ? Is this calculation wrong? If not , explain in detail

[@oldchannel.466]

Also I think this video is very well detailed.

[@somcho]

*SATA (as in SUH TUH) not Santa!

[@joe_lubinda]

My peaceful country 🤧 and it's Sata not Santa 😂😂.

[@caciouslukama2191]

Bullsh**t with democracy, all we need is credible leadership that cares for it's people's needs. Don't start pressuring our new leader with that democracy that you yourself can't provide for your own citizens.

[@skystreem4860]

Sata not Santa 😂

[@tresphorempundu3185]

Not really accurate on the presidency part,Lunga was Zambia's six president making the incoming president the seventh president of Zambia. Otherwise a very good analysis of the previous administration.

[@silvermonkey2455]

Can you do a video on the current situation in Afghanistan?

[@boydmoobwe8161]

yes, it is inauguration day today the 25th August 2021 Am very happy about that .........but am a little bit behind. I still have questions on how the kwacha has appreciated within 14 days despite the huge debt and the negative impact of COVID 19 . I feel there is a lot to be done for the elected president to achieve his promise. such as cheap fertilizer, Brining down the prices for all essential comomodites, families having 3 meals per day, and employment creation. will he be in a position to uproot corruption completlely, and stabilize the economy without depending much on foreign aid? If he will build Zambia "s economy.