Zappa defines "Fascist Theocracy"

[@JBert246]

The irony is that the most dignified and informed person on this panel was a rock star who wrote songs about huskies pissing in the snow.

[@JoeSmith-cy9wj]

Because comedy, satire and art is based on truth.

[@larrygarland3728]

Yes. And he warned everyone not to eat the yellow snow! I love his intellect, he was a great Man.

[@BobPantsSpongeSquare97]

It's often artists, scientists, and academics who see the real flaws in society and talk about it but get ignored by the masses and politicians

[@richardbilger2334]

😂😂😂

[@hansedrachensohn530]

@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 you left out family.. I have, sadly, close relatives that are willfully ignorant of politics, and the consequences of them. I'm an artist, and an avid reader, and I find that attitude so foreign and, quite frankly, frustrating.

[@montlejohnbojangles8937]

Well, this hits harder this year than most.

[@PearlsPod]

For real!

[@nomr.bondiexpectyoutodie]

The guy saying john you don't have to buy them makes an excellent point.

[@Left_hand_clapping]

100% on target. The first term of the president elect was a dry run. Now comes the full force of Christian Nationalism upon our secular Constitution with a SCOTUS that seems willing to reshape our country. I miss Frank and George Carlin; both warned us when they were alive.

[@i-love-comountains3850]

The 4th Branch by Immortal Technique gets louder every election, and this year it's deafening...

[@E.Pluribus.Unum.]

I can’t believe a superintendent of Ohio wanted to enforce the use of trump bibles in the classroom threatening termination for those who didn’t

[@joeydendron]

One of my favourite episodes of "A Lucid Person and 3 Pricks"

[@MrYago-xd7um]

Why you talking about Piers Morgan's show under this mess.. Oh. srsly tho Frank being right again shouldn't be the big take away here, instead decades of performative apeshittery from MSM stooges like that consenting for more religious nonsense should be what sticks.

[@theRavensRed]

Your comment has my heart 👏🏻😂

[@sle2470]

😆👍

[@tHEHEAd1138]

​@@MrYago-xd7um I am ABSOFUCKINLUTELY stealing apeshittery!! 😅

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Can you change that to "A lucid and not easily fooled person and 3 totally dishonest POS pricks"? It would be a lot closer to what they really are that I cannot write here on KZbin!

[@rustyshackleford735]

"Thr road to fascism is paved by people saying stop overreacting."

[@klaatu368]

Rusty, wow. How right you are…

[@ridge7524]

True

[@nathanpetrich7309]

sha-cha-cha!

[@crescentcrab]

Oh so we blame the boomers then? That's usually their line when no one reacts.

[@jr-fu6gj]

History be a repeating? # faux News. # repetitive messaging

[@MGood-ij1hi]

This is why we need artists , philosophers, and other outsiders who look at society from "outside the box" .

[@vearthwindfire5802]

YES 💯💯💯💯

[@Neilpaige]

They are the first to go .

[@jokermtb]

It didn't matter in the end.......welcome to fascism 2025

[@usaturnuranus]

Projection 2025 - coming soon to a democracy near you!

[@ridge7524]

FACTS.! REAL ARTIST ,Not the sold out commercialized nonsense that protects the FAKE over all of us who are the real deal💯💙🗽🇺🇲💙💙♥️ Frank was 100 percent right

[@markstevens1729]

Frank got out before the real storm of truth made landfall. Shows two things: this didn't start yesterday, or even recently, and Zappa and other real artists see the writing on the wall long before most others.

[@DogSlobberGardens-i7f]

Indeed. Like Frank, Hunter S. Thompson was already talking about all this in the 60s. Along with many other writers and musicians then and even before then. What's really wild is that ultra-conservative Barry Goldwater even warned about the rise of the Religious Right in the 70s. He said that they were no friends of freedom and would never stop until they controlled *everything.* That was pretty much the end of his relevance in the Republican Party, and his career.

[@carlosspeicywiener7018]

The artists are the reason for the writing on that wall. They put it there for us.

[@DogSlobberGardens-i7f]

@@carlosspeicywiener7018 the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls, and tenement halls.

[@BZB33]

History is full of power-mad narcissists who, without a second thought, would shamelessly leverage religious institutions to suit their political ambitions.

[@brett6878]

Frank for president! At least he could have passed US Constitution test unlike chump

[@erinrising2799]

can't imagine why the algorithm would suggest this now....

[@teddyb4168]

Algo knows what's coming up

[@JoeSmith-cy9wj]

Because an algorithm will always follow, never lead.

[@Blerbad]

KZbin is owned by Blackrock, an asset management company that strongly supports the Democratic Party. The day after the election I was force-fed anti-trump content.

[@nathandts3401]

Some recommendations are a mystery. Some make complete and obvious sense.

[@jameseddleman6944]

You think its an algorithm thing, what everyone fails to notice is that humans are very predictable. We follow a cylce and pattern, ai just points it out from a non human perspective.

[@EcclecticNerd]

>Says we’re heading towards a Fascist Theocracy >Panel has a meltdown What a legend

[@petemavus2948]

@@EcclecticNerd Key if you know

[@markuschelios6891]

The fascist theocrat was on the verge of violence.

[@Toocoolforunclesam]

He was right

[@petemavus2948]

@@Toocoolforunclesam Please in these complicated times I don't even like using that word, but I will agree he was correct.

[@richinoable]

Thanks to the panel for waiting until frank was wayyy dead before bringing fascism back.

[@nicholasderosa2984]

He was right....and that fascist theocracy is here.

[@BeardmanVaush]

True

[@SuperlunarNim]

The dipshit to Zappa's right is still alive today. Which seems pretty unjust in a vague, universal sense. Really shows how boomers have been sweating to destroy this country their whole lives.

[@Meatwerd]

Yeah, or a Theocratic Oligarchy might be more accurate today now that we've seen how these things shake out.

[@kenashcom7580]

​@@Meatwerdan oligarchy is a form of capitalism. Fascism and oligarchy are interchangeable.

[@jonm7888]

Project 2025. The authors call themselves Christian Nationalists.

[@125SonGoku]

Frank Zappa and George Carlin both predicted exactly where this country was headed. Wish more people would have listened.

[@danieltossounian1962]

Carlin complained about environmental fanatics scared of plastic …he said the earth would accept plastic in a new paradigm …the earth plus plastic! …the audience laughed . I laugh …news flash . Scientists are baffled at a new substance where plastic has apparently combined with rocks. 😂 Carlin nailed it …again

[@xXAscendingPhoenixXx]

@@danieltossounian1962More importantly than that, he railed against religious morons for decades who think they can dictate what should be done in this country 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@bobgraf7510]

They are the true prophets.

[@elusivelectron]

People will still deny it.

[@KerplunkyGames]

⁠plenty of people complained. Punk rock saw it. Zappa saw it. And today, here we are, knocking on the gates of a fascist GOP.

[@nathanielhellerstein5871]

He showed calm, poise, and rationality amidst frivolous mockery.

[@DaenerysStormborn-cw5ws]

His opponents look like chattering MONKEYS compared to Frank! If they had any dignity, they would have been ashamed of themselves.

[@kevinsteel7875]

Ah the "unhinged" rockstar as the voice of reason in a room full of idiots and followers. Frank was the man, indeed. He's a better American than any of those guys "debating" him. He understood the concepts of morals, rule of law, and fairness more than any of those clowns ever could.

[@johnphantom]

And was sooooo right.

[@fastinbulvis2223]

Yeah, but the guy on the side of "frivolous mockery" turned out to be right, and Zappa wrong. They'd cancel him in a heartbeat today if he was still alive.

[@johnphantom]

@@fastinbulvis2223 Really? Prove God then.

[@StreetHierarchy]

1:10 "Your free speech is an infringement on my right to control people's speech!"

[@FAIRYGIRL911]

John you don't have to buy them!

[@awyado]

Who's here on Nov. 6th 2024? Best wishes from Brazil to all crumbling democracies into facist teocracies. Visionary is this Frank Zappa

[@iainb1577]

Here in the U.K. Even the left wing has been taken over by the right.

[@nicholasderosa2984]

Thank you, my friend. I wish I could move to where you are.....

[@piotrkosztirko438]

​@@LeSadistiqueLet's hear your broken Portugese? Bigot.

[@nobodyburgen4594]

@@LeSadistiqueIt’s better than your Portuguese, asshole.

[@ursamajor7468]

As you have seen, we have failed to uphold our Democracy and we handed it to a narcissistic man-child to destroy. My apologies to the free world for unleashing this superpower Frankenstein's monster country of great power guided by an abnormal mind upon the world. We may not rampage through the world but instead strip the wealth within to divvy up to the already wealthy and " loyal" few bastards.

[@robertskinner9388]

" Morality in terms of behavior, not in terms of theology". That quote sums it all up. RIP Mr. Zappa

[@willie8976]

What's the difference

[@UncannySense]

Unfortunately neither terms of theology and behavior cannot be summed up because a lack of moral acceptance is now the greasy pole we all slide trying to climb, And questioning the state of morals is now an offensive crime...

[@hypnometal]

@@willie8976 The difference is that, in terms of behavior, you look at the consequences of behaviors and decide if, as a society, you want those consequences, and if you don't, well, there needs to be some sort of agreement around what behaviors will be accepted and what behaviors will not. In terms of theology, it's just, "God says this, and God must be obeyed, so fuck what you want."

[@willie8976]

@hypnometal what about when you do something you know u shouldn't of but there was nobody there to see it ,,, What are the consequences then ,,,????

[@hypnometal]

@@willie8976 What types of behaviors are you referring to? Was someone harmed by these behaviors? In that case, the harm is a consequence, and that would be a useful function of legislation to mitigate or prevent that harm. Or are you referring to something else?

[@gordon3186]

*"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." --- Barry Goldwater, 50+ years ago*

[@BreamBrain]

I think thats pretty much the core of it for me, dont follow their god, dont feel sure of the postcredits myself but I am absolutely scared of anyone who thinks they are

[@gordon3186]

@@BreamBrain --- Agree. I decided long ago that it wasn't the seekers after truth that I had to watch out for. It was the finders.

[@Matty88K]

Frank only had a high school education and spent most of his time working as a musician on tour and in a studio. These professional talking heads with their degrees and years of practice debating on camera were clearly unable to defeat Frank's clear headed positions on the role of government in censorship and moral codes.

[@brianmessitte8462]

The dude was a genius. He had an Iq of 172.

[@wildmanfisher]

“If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library.” - Frank Zappa

[@murthunt1047]

Educated fools Vs Uneducated Genius

[@tomanderson7129]

Bob Marley once said if he was educated he'd be a damn fool. "Education" in the US is often a form of indoctrination to control you and make you a well behaved robot.

[@michaelt.wardlespider2496]

Frank was well read, open minded, and contemplative.

[@paulmadryga]

Zappa nailed it, three decades (give or take a year or two) ahead of his time. Accept it, America: you're there - the only debate about it now is the degree to which you let it entrench itself.

[@VerinMathwin]

I suppose part of it depends on how our military responds, and they are going to be tested soon. God knows the police have been lying in wait to Ishval us. 😂

[@Sludgedump]

How so

[@thedevilwearstimbs4248]

Yeah because every fascist theocracy in the middle east lets women go to school and vote, people to be openly homosexual, and is actively trying to brainwash children into thinking it's a good idea to destroy their endocrine system and "change genders" before they have full cognitive abilities. 🤡🤡🤡

[@dolorousjohn5499]

What world are you living in? Leftist ideology is by far the choice of the people in power. How could you say that unironically?

[@fillhixx]

Frank Zappa, almost always the calmest rational adult in the room. Regardless of the room.

[@zackgriffith8861]

Lmao two clowns. Yea thats whats wrong with this country!

[@bobmanders8635]

He was the only adult in the room

[@bubblegumgun3292]

@@bobmanders8635 the least childish*

[@rloomis3]

This is the first time I've felt sorry that Robert Novak is dead - I wish he could have seen that Zappa was (tragically) correct.

[@USA92]

Sad and sick in the same thread. Boys get bored.

[@ralphmarrone3130]

Frank was right.

[@nobrainsnoheadache2434]

Zappa too?

[@rloomis3]

@@nobrainsnoheadache2434 If you mean, am I sorry that FZ is gone? Hell yes - but I've felt that way for over 30 years.

[@notaverygoodusername]

Im not sure he would acknowledge it, the right wing talking head class aren't now. he was always ready to step over the lines if they served his parties side.

[@JanetStarChild]

Frank called it; he saw the 2024 President election decades ago. The votes are in and Americans wants a fascist theocracy.

[@danielhutchinson6604]

Zappa was a pretty visionary thinker, the little Fat Fascist seemed to be afraid and talked too much. The Man on Franks left went on to form a calm voice for Fascists for Years. NPR now seems as deceitful as Goebbels.

[@RobCamp-rmc_0]

This is just a continuation of what Zappa was talking about right there. We’ve been on this slide for over 40 years, and you could even argue that Gerald Ford’s fatal mistake of pardoning Nixon _50_ years ago, and the subsequent development of a right-wing propaganda outlet (i.e., Fox News) as a means to prevent that from happening again, is what set us on this path We were already heading here, it’s just that we were the frogs in the boiling water

[@kyleharrison2286]

@@danielhutchinson6604 who is the guy on the left?

[@bundy26]

​@@kyleharrison2286 names are on the video description

[@DavidHamilton-b9q]

Hilarious all the clowns in here commenting we are there now because of Trumps re-election. This national has been this way the entire 47 years of my life. And this Lefty Trump Derangement is evidence it won’t get fixed. You clowns were on the side of the Bushes, Clintons, Cheneys this election and have the nerve to call the other side fascist! 😂😂😂

[@merlinidlehands3302]

its NOW 2024 and Frank was 100% right ON

[@dolorousjohn5499]

Dude we live in a hellhole of liberalism. In America Democrats have been in power for the majority of the past 3 decades. To make that claim is absolutely deluded.

[@HaleXF11]

Frank had more tact and class in his little pinky than the rest of those nuts combined.

[@AA-sn9lz]

The host was tolerable though

[@miker4895]

Zappa is a very wise man.

[@lookilookibuthearingtooi]

Was.

[@lookilookibuthearingtooi]

You mean was. He's dead.

[@jessumcrowski]

I'm not going to give you a civics lesson. lol.

[@johndangelo4647]

That line really made me lol! Calm under fire. FZ one of my biggest musical influences, thank you Frank ❤

[@oo.646]

That's called psuedo-intellectualism.

[@davidbryden7904]

Viewing this in 2023, Frank was disturbingly accurate. RIP, brother ✌️🌏☮️🕊

[@phillipellison4758]

same here. 5/22/23.... wow !

[@tenhauser]

I mean, Biden is Catholic after all.

[@charlesandrews2360]

It was disturbing to watch when it originally aired. Republicans were just as disgraceful, hateful and ignorant back than as they are now. It was disgusting and repulsive to see. That's why I stopped following politics in the 1980s and virtually all of American news media by the early 90s. They made fun of climate change activists back then also and news media went along with it.

[@b42thomas]

viewing this after watching shiny happy people. super disturbing.

[@fastinbulvis2223]

We live in a Woke World that would cancel him in a heartbeat. How was he "disturbingly accurate"?

[@paultaylor914]

All kidding aside? He was not kidding!

[@roarinfireball]

I love Frank’s attitude to these guys, he has a face in this interview that says “All of you are crazy.”

[@joedepalo419]

... and he was oh so right, most notably the condescending religious Taliban-gelical with the really bad combover Lofton.

[@zacharyredding3860]

It was a face of knowing they weren't going to listen to anything he said anyway.

[@roarinfireball]

@ People like them STILL aren’t listening.

[@marilynnoll541]

Zappa was beautiful !

[@ReeseMac]

Zappa was on top of his game that day. Lofton constantly tried to trip up Frank and Frank trumped him everytime and he did it with cool , clarity , and sarcasm. The complete version is a very interesting video.

[@jayfree850]

This is creepy stuff!! When the camera zoomed in on him as he said some really heavy stuff...I think this video is unbelievably relevant today, maybe more so than when it was recorded!!!

[@MochaDaisy8645]

Enjoy it while you still can. Videos like these might be taken down soon

[@TitanicHorseRacingLover]

Not only was Frank right on the money then, fast forward to today, we are on the precipice of Frank's prediction being correct, if not already.

[@kruspepoq8985]

Oh, it's on right now, state senate passing law for old testament verses to be displayed in classes and pledge of allegiance forced on kids (among so many more examples), looks like a fascist-theocracy from my point of view

[@theprecipiceofreason]

Accurate.

[@georgemichaelmyers]

How is he right on the money? Truly. I am a Zappa fan and understand the urge to want to agree with him. In addition to being a creative legend, he is smart, calm and well spoken. However, Isn't the erosion of our culture today a product of underlying unifying values becoming obsolete in the face of total subjective individualism? It seems to me like the culture is in the toilet and it has nothing to due with some far right theological fascism. The root is far deeper and dare I say tied to our total lack of unifying values, theological or otherwise.

[@imacmill]

​@@georgemichaelmyers _However, Isnt the erosion of our culture today a product of underlying unifying values becoming obsolete in the face of total subjective individualism?_ Total, subjective individualism is the ultimate expression of 'freedom'. But I understand your suggestion that it's bad, I really do. It's a position that comes from fear of 'the other'.

[@nowthenzen]

@@georgemichaelmyers idk, how about the SCOTUS eliminating a right for Millions of Americans on religious grounds. The first time in American history we have less rights then in the past and all because the plaintiffs wanted to enforce their religious view.

[@zac5096]

Frank Zappa. More integrity than any politician, ever.

[@jasongaylor2232]

Except Bernie Sanders. Frank would like Bernie.

[@dcsco]

This interview is probably what convinced Frank to avoid politics like the plague it is?

[@mikepalmer1971]

That’s not hard actually. Lol.

[@imgomes6425]

​@jasongaylor2232 he's not alive, but that would certainly be a possibility. Bernie Sanders is a smart, rational guy who fights against corruption. Propaganda would have you believe that he was some radical communist capable of sinking the economy. It's so unfortunate, but I'm glad that he never gives up. Sorry for the tangent because these next few years are probably going to get messy.

[@DevilRising]

@@dcscoignoring politics leads to where we are. Politics is everything even the things people say are non political or non partisan

[@thekerneljames]

Not only is Frank on target, he does an excellent job of keeping his focus & finishing each thought as these clowns try to constantly cut him off. It's exactly what the hosts do on fox news; they shout down the guests they don't agree with & try to interrupt their every response. Way to go, Frank... You make us proud, still after you're gone. Peace, man..

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

Sounds like you're against Democracy.

[@murthunt1047]

11 years on from your comment isnt crazy how we see this all unfolding at an rapid rate since the Orange Man Baby showed up and showed us just how right Frank was

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

@@murthunt1047 Not at all. He was wrong... it all came from the Left, just like all tyranny.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

@@murthunt1047 Frank had blind spots about Communism. The theocracy is Scientism. Stay Boosted so we'll be done with you quicker.

[@rcr-zt4of]

@@TheKitchenerLeslieoh great. The KZbin University certified infectious disease expert is talking again.

[@xxLonniExx]

This world needs more Frank Zappa. RIP, legend 💐

[@禺囸]

this world needs way more attentive listeners.

[@carlkaufman2429]

This was fascinating! Frank Zappa was poised, well-spoken, and spot on.

[@johnpullen3729]

Don't eat that yellow snow..

[@carlkaufman2429]

@@johnpullen3729 A fascinating guy at many levels : )

[@johnpullen3729]

@@carlkaufman2429 Indeed he is..

[@keiwstschwartz4225]

Never argue with the mother of invention

[@infinitejest441]

Cosmic debris 🥳

[@joedepalo419]

Permission to use this, with acknowledgement of course?

[@MochaDaisy8645]

Forty dollsr bill LOL

[@fredphilippi8388]

Looking back from 2023, Zappa was SO right!

[@futuredeadguy8661]

He was wrong and short sighted. As most 1960s people were

[@fredphilippi8388]

@@futuredeadguy8661 Donald Trump IS the current expression of fascism, i.e., a political ideology that advocates for a far-right, authoritarian and nationalist system of government where the State has dictatorial power and suppresses all opposition.

[@nocapbussin]

​@@futuredeadguy8661 I'm not a leftist, at all, but the Religious Right is a dire threat to life, liberty, and overall happiness. Those of us with a brain KNOW that the Communists and Leftists have an evil ideology, but the Religious Right believes they are anointed and sanctioned by "Gawd" dictate to everyone how they should live and I speak from personal experiences time and time again where Christian zealots thought it was "morally righteous" to butt into my business. Also, the Religious Right hurts young men by encouraging marriage in a day and age when women are out of control and have weaponized the legal system against all men. To me, the fanatical zealots of America are like cockroaches, they'll figure out a way to survive and thrive while being an incorrigible and unrelenting pain in everyone's ass

[@KingJT80]

@@futuredeadguy8661 who is dictating what shouldn't be because a book written about a man in the sky says they should? right wingers..HE WAS RIGHT. And Raeganomics screwed everything up

[@chadalpha7983]

​@@futuredeadguy8661 About this? Reagan ushered in the religious right into the forefront of the Republican platform and they haven't looked back, they didn't even need the popular vote all but once in the last 8 presidential cycles to completely stack the court with theocratic radicals

[@robertsandroff2874]

They asked him to give an example to back up his claims...and when he was calmly trying to state his case...they almost immediately tried to interrupt him. He spoke rationally and tolerated their childish jib jab...and still spoke with reason. What he said then is more true now. Look at the political and social context that (I can only speak of the US) we are in now.....Zappa was right. He thought clearly and genuinely on the matter. That's what is missing from today's leaders. "Bulls**t is the glue that holds together our society" Our "leaders" cannot level with us and talk to us like adults (let alone equals...which we are supposed to be!!!). Zappa was a true thinker and a should-have-been leader. He WAS a leader.

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

Yup. And now we have Trump and his sniveling minions.

[@megahedgehog8649]

The political power of the Christian chirches in the US now would infuriate him. The evangelists got Trump elected, blacked climate change action, have sent women's and minority rights back decades.... There is a solution. #Tax The Churches. If they want tax exemptions let them prove that they use their massive incomes on actual chairty works instead of just recruiting and lavish lifestyles for the anointed.

[@davids6652]

Even more relevant and true in 2022

[@xtzyshuadog]

*From Newt G. Reverting the party in the 1990s to the Supreme Court cases this year 2022, it has only proven more true*

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

The ever present unsolicited recap of a KZbin video.

[@ChrisFineganTunes]

‘We’re under attack from your song lyrics’ Vs ‘We’re under attack from your attempts to remove our right to sing these song lyrics’. There is no contest.

[@NIRDIAN1]

"You don't have to buy it." He annihilated them all with that and they just ignored it.

[@wlipman]

An intelligence so derided and scorned within his own lifetime, Frank Zappa's analysis here is not only spot-on, but it is precisely what has happened, 30 + years after this was taped. What we have is the fascism of capitalism and fundamentalist religion in this country run amok. And, I regret this works for all sorts of religions: witness the Hasidic Jewish community in Monsey, NY, and the Christian Fundamentalists wherever you look. Same disease, spread by two different hosts.

[@3dartistguy]

christian fundementalism has mostly gone away, now we have political correctness run amok.

[@lootwijk]

@@3dartistguy You are wrong. With the current reactionary tendency making headway by outlawing abortion, suppressing Black votes and persecuting anyone not heterosexual, the truth is the opposite.

[@keirfarnum6811]

@@3dartistguy That’s absurd. Look up “The Family.” Take the time to learn about what the DeVos/Prince/Mercer families fund politically. There are billionaires funding a Christofascist takeover of America as we speak. “Political correctness” is just the marginalized people speaking up and demanding their rights; like the right to not be murdered by cops at the drop of a hat.

[@3dartistguy]

@facepalm486 Zappa did way too many drugs

[@andsalomoni]

BigPharma fundamentalists too...

[@doylefilm]

Frank spoke so clearly and was so easy to understand. The others just got confused and stuttered like a couple of idiots because they had no way to prove his points wrong.

[@seymoorepoone9512]

Every time I watch and listen to Frank Zappa my respect for the man grows.

[@jango7889]

"M-MISTER ZAPPA BUT MISTER ZAPPA!" *insert crying wojak*

[@aldoparrington2118]

Frank was absolutely right and we are on the brink of a fascist theocracy right now!

[@MCPanda6969]

Yessirrrrr

[@Assdafflabaff]

Lol it's amazing how 99% of people use the word Fascist wrong and just think it means authoritarianism. We live under a capitalist jewish system, as far from true Fascism as you can possibly be, and yet brainlets like you throw the F word around left and right. You're no better than a dumb conservative calling everything they don't like Communism. Neither one describes what we have today, and you would be far happier under Fascism than what we have.

[@DemonDog444]

No we're not, just watch

[@johnnyllooddte3415]

he was right in one sense,, but its a leftist fascism that has come upon us.. anti religion anti family anti GOD

[@hizzlemobizzle]

Florida under DeSantis is a perfect example.

[@xander7ful]

He was positively prophetic. It's Problem (immorality) - Reaction (slow move toward legislating morality). We are almost at the door of a fascist theocracy. But it has been like the frog in the kettle. The heat is being turned up so slowly that the frog (the country) doesn't know it's being cooked to death.

[@howlinnadeaux766]

I think it's interesting that at a very young age I turned to people like Frank Zappa, Jello Biafra and bands like Crass. I was going through my typical kid angst but surrounded myself with smart forward thinking artists without even realizing what roles they would play in my development.

[@MrSeananim]

"Mr Zappa, do you really think that Oklahoma will end up requiring Bible readings in the classroom and punish anyone who criticizes the Bible? That is just paranoid, Mr Zappa".

His words seem very prescient today given our current state.

[@xjaskix]

and you said this before Trumpism even.

[@brendanw8136]

​@@xjaskixAnd now Trumpism has given up even any pretense of morality and the bottom has dropped out into sheer power-seeking nihilism (see: Matt Gaetz DoJ nomination)

[@Coopv]

I love watching Frank Zappa win every single argument

[@dagnabbit6187]

@Johnny Thunders In December 2022 I just saw in Arizona the defeated Kari Lake posing with the necklace cross around her neck and being allowed to go further with her lawsuit about the election . Cross around her neck although she called some opponents at her rallies bastards . Anyway it wasn’t that Frank Zappa was ahead of his time with foreseeing America headed towards a fascist theocracy , he fit into that special class . Frank Zappa was “way “ ahead of his time.

[@randyelliott9152]

as much fun as watching and listening to Christopher Hitchens

[@user-ti3vp9mt3z]

He unglues them 😅😊

[@JohnSmith-ds7oi]

@@randyelliott9152 Did he ever find those WMDs in Iraq?

[@freebornjohn2687]

He may have won the argument but have we lost the war.

[@barbarataylor6979]

Now a lot of times I comment how things we are experiencing started with changes that were made on the Reagan years as President Glad to see this video with the late Frank Zappa voicing the same concerns I had as a very young person

[@jodypalm303]

I, too, recognize that this started with Reagan and is culminating with Trump. Zappa knew exactly what he was talking about. Too bad the three jerks didn't get it.

[@Manuellaborer]

I wish these guys are still alive today so we can show them this video how right Zappa was!

[@skatepunkseventy-seven8957]

They'd deny it exists.

[@empiretotalwar3]

1Life Resist but he was wrong

[@AMRPK]

Braden & Novak died in 2009. Lofton in 2014. So that is that. Frank was on the money here.

[@meyou-dv8ns]

Zappa was right !!!! BUT he thought it was the Republicans who were going to be fascist - well he was one for two- It is the crazy Democrats that are trying to fuck up America

[@QuietBatperson96]

@@meyou-dv8ns And he was right, it is the Republicans.

[@KarmannSport]

Zappa absolutely nailed it.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

He zapped them with reality

[@Fear_Of_Music]

yeah we're in this now. how nice.

[@mainemade73]

Such a brilliant man. This was almost 40 years ago. He knew and saw what was coming.

[@alanlaughter]

And here we are in 2020. Frank was correct.

[@TheShapingSickness]

Correct still on 2022

[@admiralfrancis8424]

@@TheShapingSickness Not still correct. MORE correct.

[@TheRudySchwartzProject]

@@admiralfrancis8424 Yeah. Much more correct than I'm comfortable with. Check out the garbage Jenna Ellis was spewing yesterday.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

You might be a threat to our Democracy.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

@@TheRudySchwartzProject What makes you say that, Schwartz?

[@BobEmrich]

He knew then.

[@variancewithin]

Dude called it lol

[@jaxonboys3366]

It's not a new idea or revelation. That's what this country was founded on and calm, level headed people have been fighting against a theocracy since two weeks after the constitution was ratified. Not against religion, but a government run by a religion. And against a religion of any sort being run by the government. People just don't understand that anymore. And the conservatives have long known that we will forget and that they will seize power in the name of God.

[@lookilookibuthearingtooi]

You don't say...... Many people did. I'm 38. And even at 14 years old I told Americans on youtube how baad it is to support the troops or have religion control the country.

[@jaxonboys3366]

​@@lookilookibuthearingtooi Don't blame it on the troops. It's the government and powerfully wealthy that send them to strong arm countries and businesses. Believe me, the troops think they are "protecting" America and American citizens. Don't say they need to wise up and learn unless you have had the indoctrination yourself. If so, then good on ya for wising up. But don't blame the kids. They will fight their hearts out believing it is for you.

[@dagotom6588]

We are seeing what Reagan started right now with trump and Frank was right on in his definition !!

[@Renegade_2023]

He owns these people and they don’t even know it. I miss franks even tone and ability not to be flustered. He was a poet prophet!

[@johnaugsburger6192]

Thanks for putting this up. Very prescient, wasn't he.

[@jamesmaas7244]

He came to my college (NIU) around spring of 84. And at each of his concerts that weekend, he had representatives of the Daughters of the American Revolution there to register students to vote!! He was so cool.

[@martilives896]

why did you leave us Frank? damn you were/are a genius

[@PaulHodgson-gm6lg]

Frank was a true visionary

[@lookilookibuthearingtooi]

How is that? The knowledge was available back in the day.

[@anton1949]

The 'barbarism of a theocracy' is what Frank was getting at. 2022 And he was right on, these things take time to develop.

[@leatherandtactel]

Do you mean a liberal theocracy? The new posmodernist religion. You are not allowed to question their beliefs or you will be burned like a witch.

[@wet-read]

Apparently, Matt Walsh refers to himself as a theocratic fascist. I don't know if that is true, or if he is being controversial for the sake of controversy. There is much talk of various pundits and others on both sides of the culture wars being grifters, but it is hard for me to tell who is and who isn't.

[@johnnyllooddte3415]

he was right in one sense,, but its a leftist fascism that has come upon us.. anti religion anti family anti GOD

[@joriankell1983]

​@@wet-readif they're allowed to speak and hold public opinions, they're a grifter. Serious commentators have disappeared over the years.

[@miskatonic_alumni]

​@@wet-read And various rightwing figures like Nick Fuentes have expressed sympathy for the Taliban. The Religious Right are the Taliban with a different holy book.

[@Puzekat2]

Morality in the form of behavior, not of theocracy. Thank you Frank for the words that I will be saying all the time thank you.

[@midtst0v]

the fact that these talking thumbs can't seem to shut up and listen to him tells me all i need to know. RIP Zappa.

[@dajohnthomas69]

If there's one thing the world needs right now, it is someone like Frank Zappa. Just to say the things in a clear and mindsticking manner unregarding the persons he or she is saying it to.

[@donHooligan]

if ya think about it....the only problem on this planet... is money-addicted apes. all the critters are cool....but the money-addicted apes are literally destroying everything.

[@E_LithaBeth]

I am so glad to see so many videos on KZbin giving us the words and clear thinking of Frank Zappa now when we need them. What a guy!

[@johnnytwotimez]

Frank was the adult. He was surrounded by children speaking instead of thinking.

[@davidramirez4810]

“You bet we are buddy.” And we are now there!

[@morbidmanmusic]

NO, we are not there. You will surely know when we are....

[@wesleeporter9185]

We've been there since the founding of this nation, since the colonization of this land, since the genocide of native peoples and enslavement of Africans we have justified a culture of religious fascism, we might have seen some progress during the Civil rights movement but let's not kid ourself and pretend the government and the super majority of white people didn't do everything in their power they could to make sure only one kind of person had a say in this country. This is what the USA is, a fascist Christian empire, funded by genocide slavery and colonialism.

[@truthinvideos]

Zappa may not be the smartest man here but he is certainly the most honest and caring. Wait, I take that back he's probably the smartest too.

[@HakanTunaMuzik]

Zappa was always the smartest person in the room

[@Tommyr]

No, he IS the smartest man there. The guy to his right is an F'ing idiot.

[@markellsworth2814]

@@HakanTunaMuzik Didn't Zappa have an IQ in the high 100s, possibly 172?

[@HakanTunaMuzik]

@@markellsworth2814 yep.

[@jakklump]

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"- Sinclair Lewis (alleged) 1935

[@Ishco]

He tried to warn us.... We failed him.

[@Armendicus]

Several people did.but the anti-intellectualism of spoiled boomers n lonely idiot men won. We must now watch them make a mockery of truth, righteousness, justice, freedom and law. Maybe white folks n other poc will finally see what blacks have seen all this time.THEY DONT PLAY FAIR!! Meritocracy is a worse fantasy than communism.

[@bloganc]

This aged well, today Roe Vs Wade overturned by a minority over religious morals.

[@kaykay865]

Nothing to do with religion Nuffies try to rationalise their lack of morality

[@HakanTunaMuzik]

@@kaykay865 100% religion and you know it

[@kaykay865]

@@HakanTunaMuzik so religion is morality and religion is immorality….covered up by fake social justices..ok

[@HakanTunaMuzik]

@@kaykay865 Religion is fake

[@kaykay865]

@@HakanTunaMuzik so morality is fake?

[@johnnash297]

The America Frank warned us about is America today.

[@georgemichaelmyers]

How?

[@DonCDXX]

@@georgemichaelmyers There are millions of conservatives who call themselves Christian Nationalists.

[@timz9862]

@@georgemichaelmyers Oh, you know, banning abortion, banning books, etc, etc, because of religious “morals”. In other words, fascist theocracy by the right wing GOP.

[@phantomlord8870]

@@timz9862 What books are being banned? The ones that teach kids how to give blowjobs and indoctrinate kids how to be part of the lgbt hivemind, you got any problems with that or are you just another groomer?

[@ruthetiger]

​@timz9862 the book banning happened in ine other country besides this one. Germany in the 30s and 40s.

[@NyanCatMatt]

"we're heading towards a fascist theocracy" christian nationalism, if you will. "Yeah but the lyrics in your songs..."

[@leonmaze7261]

Zappa is a legend!!!

[@gregadamo3074]

Not a fan of Zappa's musical genre, but damned if he didn't see what was coming down the pike, and what are reality is today. I give him all the credit in the world for not losing his shit on those fascist hyenas he was conversing with.

[@thetasworld]

Carlin would have approved this message. You did it america.

[@mizzury54]

Frank's head would be spinning if he was witnessing the current ramp up of fascist theology courtesy of the Republican party.

[@jerometaperman7102]

Mr. Zappa should only be alive in 2023 to see just how right he was.

[@Tyler-wl8kq]

Zappa talking about MAGA

[@austinbires6853]

Zappa had the patience of a God with these drones

[@grantgilbertson3533]

None of them can just let him speak, the mod is feckless and the others can't accept that he may have a point. I wish you were here Frank, we need voices of reason.

[@bootskanchelsis3337]

"morality in terms of behavior, not theology." - Frank Zappa

[@RedneckR0nin]

This aged rather well

[@donkeyparadise9276]

How

[@lindabishop7656]

I met Frank Zappa in 1969. Our art teacher told us that we would get extra credit for going to a lecture at the University of Tennessee ,and listening to speaker Frank Zappa. Afterwards, While walking down the street to meet up with our Dad (my brother went too),we saw Frank Zappa sitting on a marble bench waiting for his ride.We said "Hello ," He said hello ,nice weather you have here" We said "Yes, it is" His car drove up ,he got in ,it drove off. We went around the corner to where our Dad was waiting for us in our car. We said ," Daddy, we just met Frank Zappa!!" He said ,"That's nice" and we went home. Of course Daddy had no idea who Frank Zappa really was OR that we had just spent an hour in a standing room only auditorium hearing words that our parents wouldn't have approved of , some of which they probably hadn't ever heard. But we had good parents who believed in extra credit and were all for us doing what our teacher suggested. Mr, C was our favorite teacher..he even came to out 50 th year class reunion.RIP Frank Zappa you spoke words of wisdom.

[@PortlandsTransport]

Boy did Zappa get it right

[@BrettFairchild]

Arguing with zappa is like arguing with spock

[@jodypalm303]

Those other guys are SO rude. They wouldn't even let Zappa finish a sentence before they started arguing with him. Zappa was prescient!

[@Moneyaddthenmultiply]

I was like “nah things aren’t that bad Frank” and then I realized it was 2018.

[@Alazoom76]

I love this man. Way ahead of the curve.

[@robertward8035]

Frank was absolutely correct and it did start with Reagan. By the way KZbin has various "dirty diddies" from the early 1900's on up on vinyl that our great grandparents enjoyed. Religious beliefs are nothing more than mythology.

[@EarthshipSweden]

Hahahahahaha! Zappa just crushed these guys and he's been right all the way. What a genius!

[@tonyjackson4078]

"You don't have to buy them" at least someone said something sensical to outrage at Frank's lyrics.

[@denglish5275]

"morility in terms of behaviour not in terms of theology" is the most succinct way to shut that argument down and best ways ive heard this perspective given

[@jeffdorsey3030]

Saw Zappa in 84 at The Newport in Columbus,Ohio.On a Whim,Walked by witha friend and we decided to go in.He Encored with Whippin Post.He,Ike and Ray,Slayed on Guitar(s)

[@drex23100]

Zappa was the only one in this crowd with any brains.

[@gibmichdiekirsche420]

This is like one eagle and three frogs discussing about the shape of landscape surrounding.

[@MARGATEorcMAULER]

I miss Mr.Zappa,wish I was more awake when I was young.

[@SuperlunarNim]

Me seeing this in 2024: "Ruh roh..."

[@km.scrivo]

I am almost 30 and cannot believe I'm just now discovering Frank Zappa, and my gosh does he know how to deliver.

[@01laris]

Zappa was ahead of his time.

[@JohnHodgesviddapublishing]

We need Zappa and Bill Hicks walking among us again, true oracles.

[@johnmichel4865]

"Looks like we got ourselves a reader" :)