ZBRA vs Unsaltedsalt Roadhog (w/ reactions)

[@omletgod2488]

main channel and second channel upload in one day it’s blessed

[@dante1483]

Addirittura

[@bluefaygox23]

I’m a console player but I’ve tried everything within my limits to become a phenomenal Doom player. I’m no pro but Zbra is the reason I do most of what I do. He’s a great teacher and I’ve learned a lot from him!

[@isaacaustin864]

My team always asks me to switch, regardless of how I'm doing. They just never trust me, even when I pop off.

[@d_watchHD]

@@isaacaustin864same here but 99% of the time im so ass, just doesnt really matter to me. gotta learn somehow

[@enegar2536]

​@@isaacaustin864simple, they don't want a tank, they want a wall to hide behind so they don't get shot and punished for their horrible positioning and decisions making Not playing Reinhardt, Ramattra, Orisa ? You're throwing

[@dageta7742]

@@isaacaustin864 In what rank did they call you out?

[@AliBashOmar]

@@d_watchHDi despide you as a doom main u be throwing my games when i play dps or support, just switch if ur ass and grind qp if u wanna one trick

[@Afrodoodle]

2:59 "Now that's just dumb, right?" - Roadhog player.

[@tacolovers_0473]

Fr like he isn’t hard countering already too

[@seanqwe100]

You summoned sam when you started talking about 6v6 lolol

[@xanorexorcist]

thats all he talks about

[@justanotherrandom7841]

A healer having the most damage on the team is the most Overwatch 2 thing ever

[@d_watchHD]

support role, when was the last time it was ever called healer

[@brycenb2994]

It is an fps you know. Every hero should be able to shoot things and do damage.

[@turtley8581]

wait until you find out about this character named zenyatta, who has been in the game since day 1

[@zegolem3607]

​@@brycenb2994 Why have dps if a support can out damage the damage expert? While being immortal? How delusional are you?

[@dr.mikelitoris]

@@d_watchHDSeptember 25, 2022 they changed it to support from healer

[@RoniDraws]

hahaha the caption mentioning samito and then zbra instantly going, Im in losers queue

[@Grey852]

Unsalted is a failed industry plant

[@throwaway2570]

ha

[@IcarusWhoLived]

Wha?

[@memori2954]

This is fucked up on so many levels 😂

[@e.d.5766]

The problem with 6v6 is that they didn't balance Overwatch for 3 years because they were working on Overwatch 2 content (which ended up getting scrapped anyway), so Double Barrier compositions dominated which really hurt the Tank playerbase. Then, to fix the queue times caused by that, they made it so only one Tank was needed per team, but this made Tank worse to play, also hurting the playerbase. If they had just balanced 6v6 Tanks, there would be no problem, but because they've done 5v5 the Tank playerbase may actually be too small to reverse it. That said, 6v6 was a much better experience for Tanks and a better game overall.

[@tau-5794]

If they just did the Orisa rework she got in OW2 in OW1 double shield would have been dead, half of the strat relied on her barrier so without it double shield is impossible or at least useless. Rein can't attack while shielding and Winston has a fragile barrier and is useless for poke. Of the 3 new tanks, only Ram has a barrier and it's on a long cooldown with a limited healthpool and timer, forcing him to brawl half the time.

[@brettnguyen2085]

Double shield meta was like 40% tank issue 60% support issue. Bap and Brig made it so that all of the sustain abilities stacking with AOE sustain and healing cycling on top of each other created unbreakable setups. In high elo, playing double shield with an Ana was completely troll because she doesn't have the sustain necessary to enable the unkillable comp. I know this point has been spouted over and over (trust me I'm tired of it too) but it's just the truth. Sincerely, GM player since OW1.

[@laughingwithanxiety]

There is not a bigger yapper than unsalted salt

[@tau-5794]

He sounds like he injects DNA into eggs in his free time

[@akastumos]

Two uploads in a day we are EATING

[@PinPointThis]

0:55, bro caught a body and dipped

[@Robert-fh4gs]

Twice I've seen you open up videos with that punch at the start on blizzard world. Both times it inspired me to do some tank q's and repeat it. Got a double time letsgoooo

[@kweechy]

Dude hard agree with your first rant here. I'm a Winston main in T500 now, and the issue like you said is that all of the incentive in the world is for the other team to fuck me as hard as possible, because the instant a tank drops dead, the teamfight is lost (unless your team can kill their tank in the next 1-2 seconds). Buffing the tanks just makes it even MORE necessary to focus me to the exclusion of all else. I'm not even sure what the solution is tbh. Maybe if tanks were less lethal it would actually help in some ways to make us less of a threat? I sure as hell know that 2x tanks isn't the answer though. The last thing on earth I want to do is play tank after they chop off 200-300hp, make me take more damage (extra tank on enemy team means a lot more dmg into me), and make me share support resources. Tanking in OW1 was a lot more miserable than OW2. I played Winston in both iterations and he is 10x more enjoyable now.

[@Nyxtia]

Hard agree. Extremely frustrating dealing with the dementia patients that form ow's community.

[@lickilicky5288]

bro, why are u bitchin about tank vulnerability in ow1 when u r not the only tank on the field with that much vulnerability. that goes for the other tanks too, its better than the immortal tanks now, imagine complaining about dying because u misplayed

[@King_Jakolas]

Blizzard would never allow the OW team to admit that 5v5 was a cash grab to slap a sequel on OW2. everyone and their mom knows it

[@Rizingfz08]

Huh? No, 5x5 is much more organized and less chaos, your cashgrab concept doesn't make any sense, if you want to talk about their greedy you should talk about the battle passes and store prices.

[@fenixspider5776]

how do you even enjoy the game as damage role player? you have to go through 50 different shields and defense abilities to even hit the backline and games lasting longer than they needs to be cause one tank will be able to stall longer till the next tank arrives, and as support it must suck too when DVA dives on you without caring a single thing about the objective since there is a second tank. imo it must be very boring that time, I enjoy 5v5 so I didn't buy OW after trying it on my friend's account and free weekends back in 6v6 days, the games felt boring to me, may be because I wasn't a dedicated player like the ones playing the game back then but as a new player that is not fun.

[@mencho888]

@@Rizingfz08the game is unfinished lol, no pve, they said they’ll focus on pvp and then drop the worst patch in ow2 history, lol!

[@mencho888]

@@fenixspider5776things died back then, a lot more chaotic but stalling in this game is just as bad even without 2 shields

[@RNeeko]

@@Rizingfz08 In OW2 we have one tank on each team that has the combined strength of 2 tanks from OW1. Every tank has had their health pools massively increased and abilities buffed. Shooting a raidboss tank as a DPS often doesn't feel like it's doing anything because they've had to keep buffing the survivability over and over. OW2 has less stuns and CC than OW1 but now that one tank gets hit by all of it on top of the rampant counter swapping that they tried to fix for the longest time till Blizzard just gave up andsaid that it was their intent all along. The tank experience is awful because you're being hard focused without any second tank to help cover for you on top of the rampant counter swapping that you can't do anything about because as a solo tank your weaknesses are so easily exploited. The DPS experience is awful because killing the enemy tank is such a massive advantage but when actually shooting the tank doesn't feel like you're having an impact at all. The only role that has seen a benefit is support because they're less reliant on healbotting a tank and have more freedom to make plays. Everyone else suffers. It's a cashgrab. When OW2 released they took away the ability to earn skins through grinding the game and put all the nice skins behind a $25+ paywall. At least the game was different enough to distract people from it and PvE was well on the way. But then PvE was cancelled and now we're only left with 5v5 as the only real differentiating factor between OW1 and OW2. Without it there will be nothing left to distract from the more predatory skin shop of OW2. The game cannot revert back to 6v6 because when they do even the casual players will see what has happened. OW2 released so that they had an excuse to sell skins for an insane premium rather than letting people earn them. 5v5 is objectively the worse format. You can subjectively prefer 5v5 but it causes significant

[@CGJero]

Reading the chat beef in this was funny asf

[@Stevan2bald]

Watch zbra gameplay:❌ Watch yeatle and unsaltedsalt trash talk:✅

[@brelandgt]

Samito cosplaying as yeatle*

[@KYNG_GEEDORAH]

Yeatle being Sam was jarring😭

[@apollo54]

title should've been "yeatle desperately tries to throw my match"

[@_Super17_]

The slow introduction of CC back into overwatch just makes it worse as well (Brig shield stun, Cass nade, mei slowdown etc) No matter how strong they make tanks your always going to receive every last cool down which just makes the experience not worth it 🥶

[@Naianasha]

The Mei slow has been there since ow2's launch and was arguably more oppressive than it is now as it's been heavily nerfed.

[@_Super17_]

@@Naianasha When ow2 released mei didn't have the slowdown on primary fire. It wasn't until like season 7 or 8 they brought it back

[@Naianasha]

@@_Super17_ As far as I know, it seems like she had it and at 50% until it was first reduced to 40% in season 5 and was further nerfed down the line in later seasons. I looked at all the old patch notes of ow2 and didn't see it introduced as late as you mention (s7-8). But yeah, the s5 patch shows it's been around and at 50% for as long as OW2 has launched. Edit: Yeah, I did a bunch of research and the slow on primary came with her mini rework with ow2's launch.

[@tau-5794]

Me has always had the slow on primary fire in OW2, its current value is 30% but for less than a season she got a slight rework that brought in the deep freeze mechanic, which started at a low slowing value but ramped up to like 75% slow, and did an extra burst of damage when you hit the frozen enemy with an icicle or melee. I personally liked deep freeze, and it would probably be balanced if she had only a 20% slow and a little lower dps on primary fire, and no ramping slow effect.

[@mannypacbeloud5786]

2:30 is such a good play for being in a tough spot Perfect cd use

[@austinhunt6566]

Great videos here and on the main channel, an upload on both in one day is just spoiling us Now onto the tank debate(oh boy, here we go), the only thank that making tank stronger will do is make the other team throw even more stuff at you. Like you and many others have said, tank wasn’t weak, it just blows to play

[@CheckTMOW]

W intro btw agree 100%

[@wooziness]

seeing zbra wear something that isnt thunder is weird ngl

[@anthonydavolio981]

literally how I feel every doomfist game, I'm 1v4ing the enemy team and their 1 tank is touching the objective and we lose bc my team cant deal w it

[@Thatoneguy73x]

Seeing zbra get tilted at samito is absolutely hilarious to me. But I feel his pain when my team trolls.

[@TheTurtle1100]

Think we all can agree 6v6 was better but you’re totally right, there’s no way they’re ever going back

[@jimmyjab8744]

i mean they will if queue times get bad enough for tank but thatll take awhile, they wont willingly do it ig

[@Nickelback8469]

@@jimmyjab8744if tank queues get worse, then adding another tank will just double the problem

[@Nyxtia]

​@@jimmyjab8744? 6v6 makes queues drastically harder to balance, that will never be a reason to favour going back.

[@jimmyjab8744]

@@Nyxtia if they role was more fun and got more content than dps, same for support, they'll be more popular, if we stay in 5v5 we lose more tank players and tank queues go down to instant, and dps and support increase overtime. Trying to balanace a game with an imbalance in power distibution like in 5v5 will mean a role suffers for anothers fun. Which eventually will heavily affect other roles queue times. Queue times aren't easy but are balanacable most definetely in 6v6. Only in some ways to be fair. If tank were mildly more fun in 5v5 then yeah the queue times would be ok ish but in order to make the role fun ehh... very hard to do without other roles suffering.

[@Nyxtia]

​@jimmyjab8744 history says otherwise, and any game with multiple roles says otherwise. Tank has never been as popular as the other roles due to the nature of the role, the pressure that comes with it, the visibility that comes with it, being the main focus of the enemy team, etc. Your girlfriend who you persuade to play probably doesn't wanna play tank. The guy who got off a 12hr shift probably doesn't wanna play tank. The 13 yr old on adhd meds probably doesn't wanna play tank. Some people enjoy all those traits of tank play, but they are always in the minority. As such it will will never be even with dps and support popularity - it never has in OW1 even one single time if you ignore the brief period after a new tank launched, and the same is true in mmos and other class based shooters, even with fairly homogenised roles like The Finals - Heavy is least popular by far... 1/2

[@acm1pirip]

11:21 you just land an ULTIMATE on top of a torb and he didnt die

[@acm1pirip]

Kiri had less than half life aswell

[@demometalico8074]

The downside for 5v5 is the inevitable powercreep that we are currently experiencing, stemming from the fact that tank is not fun to play in 5v5. With 1 extra tank, it wouldnt be this bad, and even cheaters would be less of a problem.

[@axvi9790]

Saying cheaters would be less a problem makes zero sense bro there’s 6 instead of 5 which makes the likely hood of running into a cheater greater , I’ve never played with a cheater with over 300hours on the game as it is

[@jeremyhorner9531]

​@@axvi9790You used to sickna dive tank on the cheater snd they would just spawn camp them. Effectively removing the cheater. Thats how. You cant really do that in 5v5

[@demometalico8074]

@axvi9790 as the old 6v6 flex player, cheaters are easier to punish because 1 extra tank. Not to mention, locking bastion ain't gonna work against dva rein, or widow against dva Winston.

[@omarasfari4974]

Zbras take on the tank problem is absolute W. The problem with tank is not the tank role itself. It's the sheer number of tank-fucking abilities in the game. They need to rework anti-heal and discord orb and a number of other problematic abilities and then the tank experience will be fine.

[@_V.Va_]

"ZBRA dickin u down fr fr" "Ok bro" ZBRA: 39-5 Saltass: 21-10 and switched to Dva. Get dunked on. Lol

[@calebrodgers3328]

Does anyone else miss when zbra videos had him not talking?

[@K_Nightshade]

I feel Zbra’s pain here. I can be in the enemy back line, fighting and maintaining a 1v2 or even a 1v3 if I have my ult, expecting my team to win. Only for the rest of the team to turn around and finish me off. And then they proceed to blame me for losing the team fight..

[@azzy9293]

Exactly, most players don't understand the game and have terrible positioning, a lot of them think it's bad to be in the enemy lines like that isn't the point of two of the three fighting styles (dive/brawl) most plats/diamonds i play with prioritize their own K/D over winning the team fight, they are so scared of dying they let the enemy team take as much space as possible and run away even when the fight is winnable, i don't understand man

[@K_Nightshade]

@@azzy9293 I mean, can we blame them? They don’t get flamed at first for bad positioning or lack of space made, most people get flamed for being negative or low kills/heals. Most players are so focused on the scoreboard it prevents them from thinking about the actual objective.

[@azzy9293]

@@K_Nightshade yea you're right, it's something you learn as you play and get better but sometimes it feels like people are just incapable of learning and its so damn frustrating. Getting flamed for your teams lack of positioning/awareness gets a little old

[@K_Nightshade]

@@azzy9293 Not only just that, but they fail to capitalize on their tank’s space made. Sometimes I’ll be making space after we won a team fight for the point. Instead of some of my team following me to hold them back, they all hover around the point just doing f*ck all.

[@SawmRad]

Top Doom - nice one Zbra

[@badrat4448]

all we needed was kephrii for the nightmare rotation

[@kecksbelit3300]

I feel like the early seasons were way more balanced

[@kailius790]

how do you cancel that slam animation?

[@alpakapucuf3394]

Press slam again or any ability? Or what do you mean?

[@bruhscoutray]

Bro is not human Zbra chill

[@immortalmadman4822]

Has samito become the new Jay3?

[@isaacaustin864]

How do I play Doom in Gold rank...no one knows how to work with Doom, no one trusts Doom, and even when I absolutely pop off, they still want me to switch or call "Tank diff"....I'm not saying I'm hot like that, but I know dang good and well it has not always been my fault and it's reached a point where I genuinely want to unistall altogether or where I only play casually once a week as opposed to everyday.....what should I do?

[@zbratoo]

If you're stuck in gold, its not your team. Just work on cooldown management, aim accuracy, and not feeding.

[@enegar2536]

Practice until you're GM level so you can carry out of gold in 1v5 and get stuck in plat

[@lucasdizazzo604]

Zbra ive never seen you try to get your emp punch out of torb turret since the hitbox changes I think you should do it more often 12:32

[@luiszirion1129]

wtf was that first kill omg 😭

[@raynelrueda6063]

how do you cancel the slam on console? and do you jump further cancelling the slam?

[@_Foozy]

You press the same button

[@raynelrueda6063]

@_Foozy thank you so much and what will make someone want to cancel the slam?

[@IntenseMuffin7]

@@raynelrueda6063mostly for just movement. Zbra does it a lot to get out of sight quick because if you can don’t have your block and getting shot at that’s the next best thing

[@khe2576]

​@@raynelrueda6063When your slam is active, you get increased gravitational acceleration. So you won't go as higher/far as when you cancel your slam.

[@PatricioCastillo-zi4th]

Unsalted salt had more self healing than both of zbras supports respectively

[@MaineCoonHazard1]

Dude doesn't understand how I feel having to play with high ping. Also plays tank, "Can everyone stop shooting me." Me: What!?

[@vomur]

Samito proves to be a mega yapper yet again.

[@ZaWrldo]

GUYS ZBRA ACTUALLY CHANGED HIS SKIN TO TRY AND STAY UNDERCOVER LMAO

[@milestrowbridge8653]

Which hog would you say is harder to win against: unsaltedsalt or cyx

[@Soggy_Cheeks]

we both know who

[@MyDadDotCom]

Cyx is light years better than Unsaltedsalt. I'm surprised salt is even still in GM, he's garbage.

[@milestrowbridge8653]

@@MyDadDotCom I agree too (just wanted to hear zbra hype up my goat)

[@_V.Va_]

Cyx actually knows how to play the game.

[@milestrowbridge8653]

@@_V.Va_ no offence to salt but...kinda true lol

[@samanthafurhmann3082]

Que times will be shorter if the role is fun, 6v6 will work

[@Okina-Kev]

Gotta love how this gaming generation defends greedy corporations/devs ect. You dont need a fkg degree to see whats up with Blizzard. People want us to stop complaining but they’re ones making the changes and…..they suck🤷🏾‍♂️

[@arsehair8105]

Maybe salt should play in his own region? Zbra beat him so bad he started scribblin LOL

[@Fucusasd]

Hi zbra, Hi chat!

[@greenbean4537]

wth is going on in chat salt getting FREAKY

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

“The casual player base” is a misconception. Even casual players want balance and a healthy competitive game, even if they don’t want to admit it. Getting better at a game will automatically make you even a little more competitive. You don’t have to be a sweat, but even casuals like a nice, hard fought match once in a while (especially if they’re traditionally FPS players)

[@abdielcanales5656]

Yeah, it’s probably not gonna happen now only because of what zebra said, but they would have to admit that they made a mistake and we all know they’re not gonna do that but they might not have a choice. This is how they would have to create the tanks in order for them to work in this stupid format. It’s not a balance issue. It’s a format issue 5v5 does not work with one tank

[@epsorks]

The data supports that the queue times are just about the same, so they can't even use the queue time excuse. 5v5 is cooked, we tried it it's shit, bring back 6v6.

[@jadonplox]

hog player saying thats dumb to doomfist is crazy

[@JooshDaJaff]

chat spam CertifiedFreak

[@jaden5843]

Zbra was so tilted this game jfc had to watch on mute.

[@mvndoc]

ZBRA, a blizzard dev tweeted that it had nothing to do with que times 😂 so no, that's not an argument. Also, you mentioned this game is catered to casual players, right? So, by that logic, que times matter even less because casual players in quick play or even metal ranks (gold-plat) don't have long que times, they never have lol. It was simply an excuse to put a 2 on it and add a battle pass, that's it.

[@technictab]

Not trying to even be rude but genuinely every time i see Samito in someone's game im confused how he's at their rank, considering how much he dies in places you'd expect someone at that rank not to.

[@TiK2theToK]

Its bs that hog can hook doom while he blocks.

[@leesko8039]

I honestly enjoy 5v5

[@TheHotflafel]

Bruh, shouldn't slam gets more dmg when doom got fully charged? I MEAN he (doom) literally using hes fully charged when slaming.

[@ToddWainio710]

Yeatle should be reported

[@runaway74]

I fucking hate salt omg

[@MyDadDotCom]

he sucks so much

[@pseduu]

bro kinda sounds like bugha

[@lethal3268]

make it 4v4 less dps so 2 supports can pocket each tank and dps im cooking

[@bennyking572]

Are you Napoleon dynamite

[@sicksmoker253]

How does a tank get more kills😂

[@Seissmo]

13:28 fr fr

[@chukadoo1871]

why samito throwing ur matches

[@red5robb1]

3:00 calling that play dumb is just...dumb (cant think of the word right now), considering he is playing hog

[@lethal3268]

why does bro sound like the nerd emoji

[@st0necreat0r53]

He sounds like he has 0 testosterone in his body 🤣

[@vergilsgamingchair8772]

He looks like Doomfist IRL trust me I got the sauce

[@tlavender3896]

People’s who complain about doom are actually such babies

[@Prostopyotr]

I never realized how much he whines He’s like Chipsa with somehow less testosterone

[@cyrix2891]

Idk I really like 5v5

[@frankmuller5071]

i wanna b like u when i grow up

[@_Dakchad]

26 bajillion missed hooks and still talking

[@hamiltonian4698]

he kinda whinny tbh

[@zukeirl]

3:00 wtf is bro talking about the entirity of Hog's kit is dumb

[@8ooties]

Unc getting old

[@K1ndaAwkwardGayming]

Shit just keep it 5v5 just make it so you have one support I mean support is broken they will be fine

[@ماداراالاسطورة-ي4ل]

The ferst

[@otsu3011]

how tf theres people who still thinks tanks are weak

[@trueflood323]

people are slow. tanks need to be strong in ow2 its only 1 of them, plus all the abilities the tanks are usually hit with them.

[@thatguy5391]

Tank isn't weak, but it's horrible to play tank, but then again I play rein so.

[@daivyjosephbuendiasegovia9151]

@@thatguy5391 its easy if you know how play them.

[@tweedlc7874]

attendance👇

[@IIDLUFFY]

Zbra i love you but can you stop using the whiny kid tone

[@avianjones4886]

I love how all the content creators are pointing the finger at casual players for this patch. When yall literally cry about tank soooo much. They gigabuff yall and your still mad. Its asinine.

[@jaden5843]

easy scapegoat for content creators. I’m glad blizzard is trying wild shot. if it works it works, if it doesn’t, learn from it.

[@avianjones4886]

@@jaden5843 agreed! I just hate when content creators act like they dont have any influence on the devs. They are watching yall before us small folks.

[@doodlebob6327]

Cyx will clap you

[@zbratoo]

Roadhog Doesn't Counter ZBRA kzbin.info/www/bejne/moPEdqWMbdSBjdk

[@TTMPLMKR]

It’s weird to complain that tanks can’t do anything when your first play is one shotting a dps clean off the map and then flying back to your team. Usually with dps you get one or the other, but with doom you literally get it all. Why you complaining, your not an orisa or wonton main. You play one of the most powerful characters in the entire game

[@seanpowers1899]

Doom is the most powerful character? lmao he is the easiest one to counter buddy

[@wilkiebaggins]

Doom has the least tank presence. Did you not watch hog just ignore him and push cart the whole first round?

[@TTMPLMKR]

@@seanpowers1899 yes roadhog is more powerful. I said one of the most. He’s more powerful than every other tank besides roadhog, every healer, and most dps besides maybe mei and them. You can do ALOT on doom. Like two movement abilities, a slow, a one clip primary, aoe, environmental kill potential, damage reduction. Every hero is easy to counter, but no one has as much uptime as doom again maybe besides mei. Everyone that can beat doom in a 1v1 can’t move and everyone that can move can’t beat doom 1 v 1. Doom has the most powers besides mei and rock biter so doom is one of most powerful

[@TTMPLMKR]

@@wilkiebaggins high level dooms are OPPRESSIVE. Just like high level hogs. High level other players are not as oppressive

[@slump8665]

he just def didn't say tanks couldn't do Anything. i believe zbra of all people knows that isn't true he said the tank EXPERIENCE is awful. your role can be strong/good and still "feel" awful. Also if you wanna talk about strong tanks winston def goes up there.

[@zombieoozaru9135]

Do you ever talk and not cry at the same time lls

[@ipraya3249]

Have you played overwatch lmao that's like 80% of the gameplay loop

[@lennywhere]

yes, whenever he doesn't have to play overwatch to entertain his fanbase for an income (just to live)