Vax N' Chill? | A Doctor Explains

[@sacuster1]

To be honest I’ve been on the Vax &Chill train since my first vaccine in Dec 2020. I have 33 yrs experience in nursing working icu,er,l&d. Vaccination was a no brainer for me. Choose to be vaccinated or choose not, choose a mask in the public places or choose not. I’ll take care of who ever walks through the hospital doors. It’s what I’ve done since 1987 and it’s what I’ll do until my body and mind tell me I can’t

[@Ki77a_WhSpRz]

♥ ♥

[@docequis9796]

Me in March of 2020.... "God has a cure for this virus and it is called the immune system... treat your body well."

[@savvygood]

Thank you!

[@haveaday1812]

Well wouldn’t it be nice if this pandemic was following such binary logic. Unfortunately for everybody, it isn’t. None of it is that simple. Especially when the politicians and the highest medical professionals in the land seem to be weeks behind the curve.

[@dougpenhall]

Hospitals need customers, or you wouldn’t have a job. Antivaxxers are very profitable. Especially for big pharma. $2,000 for monoclonals and $1,000 for antivirals.

[@wesholland2474]

I'm so glad you invoked the oath. "We don't turn people away who haven't been vaxxed, that's not the oath we took." I appreciate the sense of duty and calling in doctors. The oath keeps your life's work noble and above the politics and rhetoric. Preach the oath, sir. Never let your peers forget it.

[@evelyndaisy9722]

It’s stupid of those that don’t wanna treat the unvaxxed when a lot of the infected are vaxxed and they’re asymptotic. If the nurse is triple vaxxed what is she / he afraid of,? I’m for freedom for everyone without judgement .

[@punkboyinsf]

Also important to invoke the "first do no harm" oath as well

[@punkboyinsf]

The unvaxxed are the drivers of herd immunity. For this vaccine, it's the people getting vaxxed encouraged the Delta variant, which did the most damage. Omicron is nature taking back the evolution of the virus to be what is would have been without having to become more virulent, only more transmissible. Omicron is nature's jab for everyone with natural durable immunity against itself and the previous evolutionary line. This is herd immunity at nature's best. Even the lab tampered virus seems to be powerless to counter the natural innate evolutionary drive to become more contagious less deadly. Nature finds a way.

[@saramorris5009]

We did everything we were supposed to for 2 years. It all started when my kid was a newborn, he's never been to storytime, or daycare, we've been so careful to keep him safe. We got our shots, boosters, wear masks. I took care of other people in hellish conditions I've never seen in my 18 years in healthcare. When my husband got a breakthrough infection and my baby got COVID, I was expected to suck it up and head back to the front lines. My husband gets 10 days off paid, and I have to keep an N95 on and eat alone so I don't infect coworkers. I am so sick of all of this.

[@PrimetimeNut]

I am wishing you relief soon. You are a very strong person.

[@jzen1455]

I likely got Omicron at a party on Christmas, but it wasn't until 10 days after the party that I was notified about covid exposure. After notified, I recalled I was sweatier than usual while sleeping for a couple days a few days after the party. I also recall having sneezed ~20 times, very mildly runny nose intermittently, and mild fatigue (I chalked that up to stress and sleep deprivation) for a couple days. Had I not been notified about the covid exposure at the party, I would have forgotten about those barely noticeable symptoms. I actually ran and worked out intensely those days without missing a step. This virus is endemic. It's time to move on.

[@wendya1580]

Congrats! You're done with this. What I've read is that, so far, Omicron is providing protection for the preceding variants and--they're hoping--for future variants. I had a couple of nights sweated through, but I tend to sleep hot, so I don't know. Took a test; it was negative. Could've been wrong. Don't know.

[@gigid9606]

Sounds like you're home I cry but I wish I would have waited a little bit longer and not gotten the Delta and skip their whole situation 6 weeks of long-standing virus crap and just shot straight to Omicron

[@TheGratitudeAttitude]

I got omicron also. But I’m 66 yrs old, normal weight, double vaccinated and boosted. I had a full blown cold with lots of coughing (as I usually get with colds - probably bc of additional allergies) I’m glad it didn’t progress to something serious. I’m glad the symptoms weren’t for nothing; I now have more antibodies!

[@goldencalf5144]

It's probably not a good idea to make public health policy based on your anecdotal evidence. There have been plenty of declarations over the last 2 years that this pandemic is over.

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

Now if only the politicians (etc) would consider that; I'm afraid they have started something they don't want to end.

[@pattywieder3268]

Omg you just described EXACTLY how I feel. I was closer to a "covidian"... I did everything I was supposed to do, but now I'm done.

[@vincentchan9988]

From a personal standpoint, I’m in complete agreement. My family is vaccinated and we’re not worried about developing severe disease. HOWEVER, with weekly testing mandates at my children’s school, a positive test means: - my kids stays home for at least 5 days and must have a negative test before returning to school even though they’re vaccinated. This means: - I have to stay home to watch my kids because where am I going to last minute childcare, especially when they’re COVID positive? This means: - the hospital is short-staffed because I’m an ICU physician and we are a limited resource. I’m not worried about getting sick. I’m worried about my kids missing school. I’m worried about missing work. I’m worried about understaffed hospitals. And until school districts and government change their policy, I still have to do what I can to avoid exposure. It’s stressful when you know you’ll be ok, but policy limits what you should do.

[@freemanjoel]

I wish he had addressed this more. Oh, and thanks for the past year and a half doc, I know it has been rough and there are a lot of us who appreciate you and your efforts throughout the pandemic even though we don't scream it on Twitter.

[@soggyjason]

He commented yesterday when he discussed how policies need to change reflecting the inevitable Omicron infections, reduced severity, and the path to endemic Covid. Like the flu,, people should stay home if they’re sick. If you’re in a higher risk group, stay current with your shots and wear a mask if YOU choose to. For the rest of us, it’s time to return to 2019 and get on with normal life.

[@Kathykatz27]

Wakey wakey

[@andreas.4353]

9*

[@meghannderson]

I have seen schools shut down to deal with a bad lice outbreak. My kids get sent home if they think they have pink eye and I have to either get it treated or get a note to say it’s not pink eye. Why do we think we should treat Covid differently? If you’re contagious you need to stay home. I don’t want lice, pink eye or the flu. Why should kids he allowed back that actively have these things? Did we lose common sense?

[@donnaharris8722]

I love your videos. I am a registered nurse of 44 years. There are sane people out there. Thank you.

[@CYCO1631]

I'm with you on Vax and Chill. The Hard (and political) left however, will NEVER let their iron grip on the control aspects of their policies go.

[@davidfayfield6594]

I hope you don’t need medical treatment right now Dustin. Good luck .

[@CYCO1631]

@@davidfayfield6594 I know my ability to get medical treatment (along with most things) was easier to find, and cheeper to get under Trump then under the iron hand of Faucci and his puppet Brandon.

[@Ass4ssinX]

@@CYCO1631 Duh, because hospitals are overloaded with unvaxxed COVID patients. You couldn't really get into hospitals in a timely manner in Trump's last year either.

[@scottfreedom2012]

I’ve been unvaxxed and chilling for over a year. I’m over 60 and healthy and one of my best years.

[@Irongooch88]

That’s awesome! And I think we all could wish that for the ones that lost their lives over this.

[@Williamottelucas]

@@Irongooch88 Everyone deserves to have been able to live their life. I don't think dying negates that.

[@1234bbruce]

I'm 74 and unvaxxed. I really don't hear enough discussion about natural immunity. I had my antibodies checked a year ago. My decision to not take the vax based on those results. I've been sick but same as a vaccinated person. PleasePlease could someone dedicate an entire hour about natural immunity. Where are the studies? I've heard that not a single person was reinfected and died.

[@scottfreedom2012]

@Anna Why? Omicron is basically a bad cold. Last time I was even sick was 4 years ago with the flu whick lasted 5 days. Take no medications and not overweight. Get plenty of Vitamin D naturally when I can but supplement now. We've know for most of the pandemic that obesity is one of the top co-morbitities and their has been almost zero on MSM about this. Instead they lock down people in their homes and tell people to mask up, which is a joke. Everyone wearing their cloth masks(which do nothing) even alone in their cars. They lie and scare people which leads to stress. Live your life as Dr Z is saying and this wave will be over before you know it. This will be a yearly thing, more than likely just like the flu and cold season,. Eat healthy, exersize and get plenty of sleep which should have been promoted the last year and a half(actually forever) So I'm gonna keep chillin!

[@MichaelBrooksmsb400]

I am 58 and unvaxxed, only had mild cases of Bronchitis since outbreak of Covid19! Natural Immunity anyone?

[@jcrow62]

This is exactly where I am. I was very much a covidian, and suffered greatly under my mental Prison. However, I did almost lose a friend early, so I get why I was so scared. Hell delta is still killing people. But when omicron hit, I was shocked at what people we’re saying. We knew how outrageously contagious it was from South Africa and how less deadly it was from the same. Which is what I thought we were waiting for. The response from many people was “oh, I need to up my mask game. Better stay SAFER!” I’m thinking, “isn’t this what we’ve been waiting for?” At some point we’re not in control. Vax and chill.

[@MBarberfan4life]

I moved on when the vaccines were rolled out. I don’t know what covidians want. They keep moving the goalposts

[@molsauce]

Fear is the real virus.

[@maryscaletta7972]

Oh my goodness, people are completely forgetting about long covid. 🙄

[@MBarberfan4life]

@@maryscaletta7972 no they aren't. That's a complete strawman argument. It's almost like there are other concerns in the world besides Covid-19.

[@budgiebirdy]

@@maryscaletta7972 This is perpetuated by those to keep the fear pumped up and keep everyone locked down forever. Enough with the sanctimonious finger-wagging. Literally everything you do involves risk. Weigh the risks to your specific situation and behave accordingly. Time to let everyone get on with their lives!

[@red-x2g]

This is brilliant to hear. I was never in any camp but against the spreading of misinformation from BOTH sides. I got vaccinated to help stop spread but felt cheated when it wasn't doing this. Let us make our choice and live with the consequence.

[@jedadruled984]

No, you are misinformation, you need a Booster Please have a Boooster. Thank you

[@Doeyhead]

The reason Omicron isn't as powerful...is vastly in part do to vaccination. So good job!

[@mlgamble]

I have had Covid then phizer two shots then Moderna booster, my co morbidity is that I am fat. My Covid was mild. I think I am immune to any new Covid.

[@mlgamble]

By the way, I make my own decisions on the “science” available at the time.

[@mlgamble]

My opinion is that we should all be able to make decisions on the science that is present in our time. Please God let the real information be posted.

[@roxy-ws9zb]

So the current recommendation continues: Everyone get the 3 shots/You may still get covid and transmit it/ You won't get as sick as the unvaccinated. Can you address the recent study from California that suggests that with Omicron there is negligible difference between the vaxed and unvaxed?

[@pmo8135]

The only immunity being given is the vaccine companies from being sued

[@bronwen7039]

In my recent experience of my own family as well as a bunch of other people we know getting covid (presumably Omicron) the unvaxxed have had mild--though certainly annoying--illness, while the vaxxed have gotten much sicker.

[@iss8504]

@@bronwen7039 yes that's been our observation too.

[@sandylewis8897]

I wholeheartedly signed Dr. Bhattacharya's Great Barrington Declaration over a year ago. I believe he was always right.

[@EvilMonkey7818]

For the next pandemic it will be the correct approach too.

[@katiarp7257]

And they never said "let it rip"

[@Mathis218337]

@@EvilMonkey7818 we can’t say that until we see what it is. Currently the declaration seems logical at this point. Maybe not pre vaccine but definitely now.

[@Paola-jf2qf]

When I was pregnant during 2020 , I wore an N95. Thanks to my father who had a pack of them since he has his own construction company. He also wore one the whole of 2020 since he has pretty bad asthma. Never got sick, nor I was that worried thanks to Z dog MD. He was the only one I listened to during that time, because every thing esle drove my crazy. I did stay home, I went to the store only when I had to during "special hours for high risk". It was kinda of nice no long lines or crowds. In all seriousness I am so grateful for this channel and everything I have learned. Also, I have lost friends and family to Covid. Sadly they were unhealthy (over weight, had an underlying diseases etc) at the start of the pandemic and were unlucky. No more than ever is a great time to eat healthy exercise etc. Most do not want to. Especially in my Mexican culture were eating a lot and being over weight is considered "healthy." There is so much to say here, but it would be never ending. Meanwhile I while Vax and Chill on my exercise bike.

[@hardymasonj]

I'm more in the antithesis camp, I don't like being in an echo chamber, so I've either avoided discussions entirely (this situation has not played well with my anxiety), or tried to find opposite or centrist voices. I can tell you, I don't agree with everything you say. But I respect the hell out of the way you say it. I just recently started listening, but keep it up.

[@TheJbh147]

I think the vax itself is an amazing and revolutionary technology. I think people deserve to make their own medical decisions without being ostracized and cut out of society. But most importantly, I vehemently oppose forcing medical procedures on a population, regardless of its safety profile. I just hope that there aren't any long term effects for those who got the jab. I don't think it's more likely than not, but it's still there in the back of my mind. Stay safe, friend, and congrats on the baby!!

[@hardymasonj]

@@TheJbh147 thanks for the congrats on the baby. Gonna be honest, this random detail being noticed and commented on by a stranger just made my day. She's actually 6 now (I am slow to update profile pictures), and she has yes to cease amazing me. Equipping people to make the best decision for themselves and their community and then trusting them to do so or deal with the consequences is the #1 thing I agree with in these times. The difficult part then is, as he says, getting the two hemispheres of thought to talk to one another.

[@TheJbh147]

@@hardymasonj aww, well that's great! Glad it had that effect! I definitely agree with everything you said. I won't prevent myself from talking to anyone over their views but unfortunately, thinking that there's value in medical autonomy somehow makes you a walking viral factory and a threat, even across the internet, among those who need to hear different perspectives the most haha. I'm optimistic that people will slowly chill out, though, especially as governments keep trying to stretch it out.

[@matthewparsons9407]

For data and stuff look up Dr. John Campbell. His resources seem solid and he's quite unbiased. His motto is "follow the evidence wherever it leads." If you feel curious and up to it. If not, that's cool too 😊

[@TheJbh147]

@@LeylaDerben 1: we don't have long term data on the vax to make a statement on that in one way or another. The fact that, in the past decade or so, a third of vaccines/drugs approved by the fda lost their approval due to long term side effects that only manifested after approval makes it a legitimate possibility to consider and at the very least, be aware of. 2: I don't know why you 'weirdos' automatically assume anyone who doesn't want to simply ignore the elephant in the room must all believe the initial assumption you made.

[@ellobetchess]

Thank you for pulling me out of the hive. I am prepared for my date with covid. I hope this is the beginning of the end. The end as in, no shut downs, no mandates, no masks.

[@philm7480]

Good luck. They're just going to double and triple down

[@yolandatweedeep4451]

You will be getting the omicron booster in March.

[@philm7480]

@@yolandatweedeep4451 I'm all set with get a booster for a head cold. Thanks anyway. Plus by the time they roll out natural immunity will be king

[@Monalisa0622]

This is not the end. They will keep pushing for more mandates more boosters.

[@pmo8135]

$cience

[@j-9824]

I would enjoy seeing you, Vinny Prasad, Robert Malone & Peter McCullough, Jay Bhattacharya John Campbell, Pierre Kory, Paul Marik on the Joe Rogan discussing the science of covid, the benefits/risks of mass vaccinations, vaccinating children, adverse effects of the vaccines, early treatments, etc. Imagine that!! I enjoy your talks but not a fan of yours when you belittle other doctors that have different opinions of yours!

[@howdyyall3735]

He’s a mouth piece for Paul Offit and all the vaccine developers that can subscribe to one solution. Vaccines for all despite risk stratification.

[@buch434]

@@howdyyall3735 derp

[@punkboyinsf]

Agreed. This guy is missing one quality I've come to respect in Dr. Prasad, which is humility. Vinay is humble and always willing to admit he's wrong on certain things. I remember them pushing everyone to get jabbed, in lieu of early treatment. "why even entertain a crazy idea like ivermectin when the vaccines are so safe and effective" lol. Vinay spends his time on warning against jabbing kids. I'm waiting for enough of the data that this guy will accept to finally tip the scale and to see him finally eat crow. Dismissing India and Japan and thousands of people who've self treated, like Dr. Mobeen, with ivm and other early treatments as misconstruing data. People can feel the trajectory of the illness reverse even after one dose. Same with me. Now I have immunity from Omicron. Nature's jab.

[@vladinhaler5306]

I’ve really appreciated Zoz’s input for the past couple of years. I’m unvaccinated with no plans or intention of getting vaccinated. I had delta back in may of 2021(very sick for a month). I just had omicron over Christmas (mild symptoms for 3 days.) At this point I’m done with. Anyone care to reply who thinks I should still get vaccinated? And why?

[@ldthap1716]

You have to get vaxxed ASAP so we can reach herd immunity as the jolly little sheep we are which should never question our benevolent governments of the world that never gave us anything for free and now give us all these incentives because of a virus that’s deadly. Well, not that deadly actually. But you know you should just get it already.

[@tinasyoga]

You have natural immunity don’t get it

[@mathewtsillis2271]

No- natural immunity trumps all

[@pmo8135]

You can get antibodies checked if you are worried. People with natural immunity have gotten another cov 2 variant and some people have been immune since the original sars cov 1 still today. People get prescribed medicine that will change their internal environment of immunity.

[@beverlyweber4122]

You are REQUIRED to wear a mask in Taiwan/Vietnam/Thailand...thus, I continue to wear a mask, so I don't pay huge fines. FYI, I was wearing a mask in 2018/19, cuz' that's what we do in crowds, courtesy of SARS and social norms in SE Asia.

[@MGuitarZ77]

Thanks for the tip. I will never travel to SE Asia.

[@uptick888]

TY Frequent traveler to Asia here totally used to the masks..You all are more conscious of each other’s well being Than Americans..

[@MGuitarZ77]

@@uptick888 - perhaps they are more conscious of others well being or perhaps they are just repressed. If you are actually sick it’s one thing. Universal masking for all is insanely paranoid, repressive and really not very effective in preventing spread. Look at California and NY vs Florida and Texas. Not much difference if any. I just don’t understand the “masks are no big deal” philosophy. You can’t tell me they aren’t psychologically damaging. Very dystopian and reeks of fear. Extreme germaphobia is no way to run a free society.

[@uptick888]

@@MGuitarZ77 obviously you are not well traveled or a scientist or Doctor..

[@MGuitarZ77]

@@uptick888 - you are right on the last 2. And I’ve never been to Asia. Never will. But i fail to see how that makes my point any less valid. Pray tell…….how are these masks stopping the spread of an aerosolized virus and please point out examples of this approach working and why all these mask zealots are catching Covid anyway?

[@scoutdixie4412]

Zdogg why do you think Malone and McCullough are lying???

[@neganxarmy5151]

What about natural immunity and chill? Had covid in Jan of 2020 and have been living my life and have not looked back since.

[@Irongooch88]

That would mean you want people to get it lol. And natural immunity doesn’t mean much. People have gotten all three variants

[@cristiewentz8586]

Covid here November 2020. Recovering currently from omicron- the worst head cold I've had in years. Not vaccinated, won't be. What's good enough for over a million border crossers is good enough for me.

[@momcatx2]

How do you know you had it if no one was testing for a yet to be known virus?

[@SuperDflower]

@@Irongooch88 send us the data on that. Very rare instances. Send the data

[@missreneealyse]

@@Irongooch88 the vaccine does not stop the spread, it reduces your risk of severe disease and death. Natural immunity does the exact same thing. There are many robust research studies proving natural immunity is at least 7x more effective than vaccination alone.

[@athenassigil5820]

Level headed and wise. I've been following you for quite a while, but also a whole host of other commenters. The main reason is to see who's making sense and also the data. Hands down, you're amongst the most enlightened and compassionate in this very weird time. Stay you...and alt-middle is the enlightened path to follow. Cheers!

[@mills1540]

Got covid November 2020 before vaccines were available. Been chilling ever since....not vaxed and not going to.

[@storiesbyalan5200]

Been terrified of the jab, not gonna lie. I chose to not get it because of my doubts and fears. I been ping ponged across both hive minds. Hearing you speak the calmly, this factually, this chilled eases my worries and my concerns. Thank you!

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

Being vaccinated might be no problem for you, or it could kill you. Those are the extremes. There is a lot of room for harm between those extremes. Most people have received the vaccine without issue. Unfortunately, our hospitals at present have 3 fully vaccinated patients for every 1 unvaccinated patient. Educate yourself before you decide on a plan of action. Best wishes, whatever your choice.

[@positivebenzowithdrawal5578]

@@Ron_the_Skeptic how do you know that ratio of v to un v?

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

@@positivebenzowithdrawal5578, ​ I think the answer to your question is that 77.450% of the population is fully vaccinated. There are some part of that population that have also received a booster and there is another part of the total population, not counted by me, that has had a single dose. I left them out of the comparison. 3 to 1 is 75%. The difference between 75% and 77.5% is not statistically significant. In ICU the ratio is closer to 50% fully vaccinated, but the claim that the vaccine is the reason is problematic. Vaccines inform the immune system of a pathogen. It is then up to the immune system upon encountering the pathogen to eliminate it. Typically the the battle with SARS-COV-2 lasts a week. After that the immune system is cleaning up the remains of the war. The cytokine storm that put so many in ICU begins a few days after the immune system begins cleaning up. This is well after the vaccine has done what it was supposed to do. Vitamin D is the hormone that regulates the immune system and one of its jobs is to prevent the cytokine storm. Of course, age, obesity, diabetes, general fitness and other factors also factor into your experience, so what you might experience is determined by far more than just were you vaccinated, or not. And, having typed all of that, I see your question was "how do you know that ratio of v to un v?", not "do you know that ratio of v to un v?", which is a different question. The answer to that question is, I looked the information up on the government web page that lists hospitalizations by unvaccinated, partly vaccinated, and fully vaccinated. Simple!

[@U.S.MarineGrunt1775]

@@positivebenzowithdrawal5578 It is simple over do your research. Even actual caring nurses and doctors have made videos about the same thing, but you'll have to dig deep KZbin is with the deep state and are helping suppress the real information

[@brandystillings3201]

Covid was pretty bad, 10 out 10 Don’t recommend. I can’t wait to get my booster

[@meganhackett2426]

This is everything that has been running through my mind in the past little while. I really needed to hear this. Honestly, this brought a lot of relief.

[@rtkilian]

I’ve been unvaccinated and chill since the beginning 🍹 figured I would get covid and I did before vaccines came out and have trusted natural immunity.

[@luishumbertochavezrodas3619]

I am currently Covid positive, on my 7th day after my first symptoms(sore throat). Besides that, basically a runny nose and that's it. I'd been rafting, hiking, snorkeling off the coast of Honduras, for New Year's weekend, so a great deal of outdoors activities for me. The only place I was indoors was inside a gas station, went to the toilette, waited for a coffee, the store was packed. I was only there for 20 minutes tops, if that. Dr says its probably Omicron, probably because there are no labs down here that confirm variants. Did not infect my family even-though we spent 5 days in the same room, inside our car driving back and forth, movie night when we came back. Weird.

[@positivebenzowithdrawal5578]

V or un v?

[@MNP208]

There are many viruses going around right now. Could have been Covid, but your Dr. can't confirm a diagnosis without a swab. She/he can only guess. We had a bad rhinovirus here in the fall.

[@Cogbyrn]

My dream is that one day, someone like ZDogg will have someone like Dr. Malone on his show, so they can hash out details and points/counter-points in real time, instead of just making their own arguments in a silo. I don't just want to hear the challenges to each side, I want to see responses to those challenges in real time.

[@AN-jw2oe]

Am sure Dr. Malone would be up for that! Unfortunately, I think ZDogg is too close-minded to do that… he admitted he gets angry just thinking about certain people and their viewpoints. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@SK-hm9dy]

Keep dreaming 🤣 Dr Zdogg has been called out many times on slandering Geert VanDen Bosche and Malone. The debate won't happen. In fact Zdogg had Offit on debunking Geerts ideas. Well Geert responded to them on Del Bigtree's show. Wouldn't it be more mature to just debate the guy?

[@rustyhooks9482]

Actually Steve Kirsch put up $1M to have a public debate. Put your money where your mouth is Dawg

[@MichaelLesterClockwork]

@@AN-jw2oe because "certain people" are spreading debunked lies as if they are "viewpoints" in order to exploit their followers for profit. And people are suffering significant harm and even dying from believing those lies. Meanwhile, those "certain people" get the best possible medical care when they inevitably catch COVID, including multi-thousand dollar treatments that are out of reach of their audiences... Heck, Rogan was being debunked by a guest in real-time and ended up throwing up his hands and saying "I guess we'll never know" as if he wasn't just proven to be catastrophically wrong... The dude thinks hamburgers are made from pork FFS, because the name starts with "ham"...

[@MichaelLesterClockwork]

@@SK-hm9dy It isn't slander when it is provable true. Welcome to objective reality...

[@tutupuff6359]

I am so grateful every time I hear someone actually being completely honest about the current state of the pandemic.Thanks Doc!

[@jaysantos536]

If you want 100% honesty on the subject of COVID I suggest Dr. Peter McCullogh and Dr. Pierre Kory over this guy ANY day because both have TREATED successfully thousands of COVID patients. This youtube doc has treated ZERO COVID patients.

[@ellobetchess]

@@jaysantos536 you do not have to be treating patients to fkn relay information. No one is 100% honest, you're asking for blind following of the guys you like. Pathetic.

[@docequis9796]

SIDE 1: vaccination for everyone repeatedly regardless of what their physician says. SIDE 2: reason.

[@jaysantos536]

@@ellobetchess What do you know about the doctors I mentioned?

[@spocksdaughter9641]

@@jaysantos536 yes he is frighten, speaking to his Hive!

[@jaymeschlepp5971]

Great information. Thanks to you and VP for navigating all the chaos with intelligence and humor. Keep it up.

[@sarahboothe1756]

Lord…I hope and pray that this will start changing things. I live in Oregon, one of the most draconian states in the union. I hope our leaders will adjust to what science actually says. Thank you for your continued sane voice.

[@neganxarmy5151]

They won’t, its all part of the plan. Only the people of Oregon are going to be able to do anything about. Until you say you have had enough and invoke change, you will have this way of life slammed down your throat.

[@Christina-71]

In the liberal draconian state too. The vax mandates have caused much more harm then good. Over 160+ ODOT workers quit and there's not enough snow plow drivers now. I hope Salem gets hammered with more snow!

[@jzen1455]

I doubt Kate Brown will do much. Remember when she immediately backstepped from the last lockdown attempt after she was threatened with lawsuits?

[@christeenforster4645]

Try living in Ontario. That’s all

[@portBlazerfan22]

The state of Oregon last week or the week before declined to take any further action to stop the spread of omicron. School districts have their own leeway for whether they want to close temporarily because of an outbreak.

[@steveschmidt6847]

I would love to see ZDogg MD take his message to the Breaking Points podcast. The mainstream corporate news will never have him in because they're too interested in contributing to the divides that fuel ratings. I'm sure Krystal and Saagar would love Dr. Z.

[@freespeechmom7738]

Here’s a thought that just occurred to me. We’ve been talking about over worked, stressed healthcare workers. Why haven’t we put resources and our energy in to recruiting healthcare workers, expanding our services, instead of maintaining status quo, allowing people to burn out and providing rationed care. During WWII what did our society do? We rallied. Women stepped in and filled in the Gaps in factories and the work force at home. In this COVID situation , can’t we switch the narrative to inspire, encourage, recruit young people to become a healthcare worker. Can’t we take all this COVID money and invest in to hospitals, clinics, community resources. I know people are tired, but I’m tired of hearing how tired everyone is. Let’s get to work!

[@DoveKiiing33]

And not fire able working hospital workers who don't get vaccinated, only to then allow positive nurses to work followed by an outbreak

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

They should do the same with mental health workers, we are going to need more

[@mbburry4759]

@@DoveKiiing33 whine away! People join the military and theres awhile lot more required than getting a single vaccine that is nearly impossible to cause you any harm. Such cry babies about such a dumb thing

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

@@DoveKiiing33 yep don't fire all these workers then complain they are short staffed.

[@Taodharma]

I love your comment. I come from Serbia and over there we have specialized high schools for medical techs and nursing. If we can send kids off to war, we can teach them healthcare. Thank you for bringing this up❣️

[@extremelifeandlarydean1894]

One of the most compelling and powerful segments on Covid, vaccinations and our present conflict that I’ve heard. Great job sir! Thank you and kudos.

[@lloydranola]

That was a solid Atlantic article. I fall in between the “vaxxed and done” and “vaxxed and cautious”. But mostly leaning toward the vaxxed and done” crowd. And definitely agree with the author, Derek Thompson’s “If I were COVID czar…” view 💯.

[@dancechica]

Same, I'm over it. If they don't want to get vaccinated, I'm not protecting them anymore

[@Kathykatz27]

@@dancechica your protecting them? Hahaha Haha Haha

[@annekelley8299]

I Live in the villages in Florida I am a retired nurse. I worked in a company who researched the latest drugs and new technologies for their efficacies. We actually moved to Florida during the height of Covid last year. We vaxed and boosted and wore masks if requested but for the most part we chilled my husband and I are not high risk middle aged people. I still went to the gym, we have concerts and a majority of us “young ins” did not wear masks. We vaxed are chillin. Luckily we were able to spend a lot of time outside even in the summertime where early morning activities are the best. In early December my husband felt fatigued and had a sore throat, I was sneezing. We did not run out and get tested we felt we should leave the test for higher risk group and as it turned out within 48 hours my husbands symptoms subsided. My sneezing stopped. I just can’t believe the panic that has ensued. I listen to you and Pranad and have seen Dr Marty Makari on your show and Fox News and align with the same beliefs.

[@mattb1293]

For me, knowing more about long covid/post-acute sequelae (how common is it actually, how does it happen, can we predict who will be affected, can we do anything to prevent/treat) is the last piece of the puzzle to be less concerned about COVID. Some of the recent stats about e.g. increased incidence of diabetes, heart attack, stroke, etc. after previously recovering from "mild" COVID are worrisome. I know some other cold/flu viruses are suspected to be culprits of chronic fatigue etc. but anecdotally it seems like this may be significantly more common with COVID (though this perception is also obviously biased by the volume and publicity of COVID-specific research right now). Beyond long covid, I agree we are in a much, much better position now than we once were and getting closer to being able to "chill". We know a lot about the acute phase of the disease and have good options for prevention (vaccination, ventilation, high-quality masks) and treatment (antivirals, mAbs, steroids).

[@celinenaville]

Yes! No one wants to talk about long covid, which in some cases seems to be worse than death.

[@neowild]

@@celinenaville Just the same as some people don't talk about the people who got vaccianted and got severe neropthies (things like nerve sensitivities that heighten your senses to unhandlable degrees). These are people that signed up for vaccine trials. Point is, there is a risk on both ends, but which end of the risk the person wishes to take should be their own decision. Although, some of these things, i.e. diabetes, seems to be backwards where people with untested diabetes are at more risk of catching covid and then they are seen to have diabetes afterwards, but the truth is they had developed it before they caught covid it just was not noticed until afterwards. Given the low percentile of people this is entirely possible.

[@AdaAdi77]

I have CFS from a virus I caught in April 2019. It is treatable. Gupta program, DNRS and sometimes some trauma removal therapy such as brainspotting or EFT tapping can do miracles.

[@BeaHindebars]

Last piece of the puzzle? I don't think so, most of the pieces have been stolen and hidden.

[@Emma310]

Hi re. long Covid you may want to listen to the KZbin video Dr Shankara Chetty discusses his Covid management approach. from 32 mins.

[@THEmaggspie]

i seriously am so glad i have had your unbiased voice of reason i say ty a lot but i truly hope you know what a huge difference you have made for many people....so again ....ty

[@caseyj8210]

How bout, no vax, but I still chill like I have for the past two years!!

[@nicebluejay]

ok homie

[@redgreen1500]

That’s your prerogative. Hopefully when you catch it it’s mild, and I’d imagine it likely will be. Take the risks you’re comfortable with.

[@charliefoxtrot5001]

You and your doctor are the only ones that know your health status and can make reasonable and informed decisions about it. You have to live with those decisions either way.

[@caseyj8210]

RG/CF, I agree with you both. It’s is and should always be a personal decision made with your trust doc. I had the sickness Nov 2020, wasn’t too bad. I don’t see the need to get the vax. That is how a lot of people feel and why they/we are pushed that the potus made a unilateral, discriminatory mandate affecting ~80M Americans.

[@nicebluejay]

@@caseyj8210 the supremes struck that down today so everyone can chill about that now.

[@nancycronin601]

Agree with everything you say and appreciate how logical it is. So often it includes "unless you are over 50" then you can vax and chill. I am 71, vaccinated and just ending my 9th day with Omicron. It was rough and I certainly didn't expect it to last so long. Am mostly back to normal but would certainly like to avoid a reoccurrence. Interested in what the next year might hold. I Live a healthy life, not overweight and not diabetic, just older. Thanks for the information in these videos.

[@MGuitarZ77]

How do you know it was Omicron. Delta is still out there. Glad you’re doing better.

[@sacuster1]

That sounds more like Delta.

[@TheFtm22]

So I was volunteering at a senior living community yesterday and one of the residents asked me "when do you think we will be able to do without these masks? I'd rather die seeing people's faces and being able to understand what they are saying". It was really heartbreaking to hear how her life had been affected because she lives in a place with all these rules that interfere with her mental well being. The "vulnerable" deserve to decide too - otherwise they are just prisoners of the policies.

[@genevievehudec3009]

Yes, this so true. My mother said the same thing. Sadly and heartbreakingly, she died one week after they finally let one person in the family see her. I will never get over the sorrow I still fell at not being allowed to be with her in her final days!

[@belgantard827]

if they believe my body , my choice is true for abortion.......

[@LilCraftyNook]

Yes!! “I’d rather die being sociable!!” Dying inside emotionally is devastating!!

[@LilCraftyNook]

@@genevievehudec3009 I so understand. ❤️ Although before COVID, I didn’t get to see my mom her last week either. I rehash the scenario over and over. 🥺

[@TheFtm22]

@@genevievehudec3009 So very sorry.

[@ErikHaanVincent]

I have firsthand experience with the "schism" of "Covidians". The people within my eastern Massachusetts community orbit are mostly "Covidians". We shared the same thoughts about managing COVID-19 (social distancing, wearing masks, etc..) before vaccines. And many decided getting vaccinated was a good idea. But many of these people - fully vaccinated - were recently at an indoor soccer match for our kids and many wore cloth masks or loose-fitting medical masks. There wasn't a mask mandate by the facility. I'm in the "vax 'n chill" camp and own only cloth masks so I didn't wear mine. But most of the other parents did. And it was slightly uncomfortable. I could feel the judgment seeping from beneath their masks. The kicker is that one week later the facility closed matches to spectators, with these conditions: 1. Participants must mask on their way in and out of the facility. 2. Players don't need to wear masks while playing. So in my son's soccer matches there's a lot of close play, with heavy breathing by players running up and down the field. The kids don't have to wear a mask when they're on top of each other and breathing heavily, but they do while walking next to each other. I've been saying "What are we doing?" and "This is lunacy" a lot. :)

[@davidrobertson6371]

Why don't you invite Malone on your podcast and you can refute him in person. It would be much more effective than you doing a prerecorded video with no citations.

[@ozmo9]

You definitely need to do a video on Dr. Malone … there’s plenty of points brought up that need answered …. I want to do the best I can and I like going back and forward from your page to Dr malones … can we please discuss spike protein and the toxicity reports or lack of I want to be educated but as you said in previous videos it takes a long time to read those

[@pettypvt1]

you have changed my mind I received the 1st dose today

[@haveaday1812]

If there is one thing I’ve learned throughout this entire debacle, is that nobody, including the smartest and most respected among us, knows what the fuck is going on, or knows how the fuck to handle it. Just unplug, learn to do everything you can for yourself, and let the other bullshit just work itself out.

[@geraldinebyrne2618]

I tottally agree! I couldn't have said it better!

[@gigid9606]

I think there are some people that do know what the hell's going on but they're not telling you

[@gigid9606]

@@kisnazamila2972 stop

[@johnmadsen9809]

I don't worry about it at all. I know we're all going to get it. I also got the J&J and won't get a booster. Nor do I wear a mask anywhere I go. I don't care.

[@carolschlismann7558]

Fresh air and sunshine are good for you. Wearing a mask outdoors always struck me as overdoing it (also when driving alone in the car).

[@sleepymountain]

We love YOU so much! what a sweet and smart man. thank you for deciding to share your energy with the world. Be blessed!

[@teohproject]

I live in NY and it’s insane. I have friends in TN and they are living their lives... I visited them last spring and it was heaven! I never thought I’d live in a world that would not give left over vaccines to developing countries! Only 10 % of Africa is vaccinated and they did fine with omnicron and they don’ t have our obesity rate. How horrible to go for a 4th booster for a 1% death rate and some nations are not even fully vaccinated! How can CA, NY call themselves progressive when you leave out nations that are not vaccinated. There were over 9 billion vaccines and the rich countries are just hoarding these... 4 to 5 boosters to nations that have some of the biggest obesity rates that mandate folks that did comply but are expected to wear 2 or 3 masks, get 3 to 4 boosters, don’t have school... insanity! These are humans not robots! Yes I’m vaccinated!

[@stephengross4704]

🤨

[@trailsofsamurai4975]

Welcome to mass psychosis, get ready for 4th one, be a loyal patient for pharmas

[@MNP208]

NY was insane before Covid! A nice place to visit but I couldn't live there.

[@daniellelightfoot8394]

You make me feel so much better as someone who suffers from health anxiety. Thank you 😊

[@IsraelTamariz]

Doc, 2 years taking all reasonable precautions, little to no travel, work from home, kid in online learning… finally it took 4 days attending face to face school for my 10yo to get sick, even with 2 n95 masks… Me and my wife boosted, my child with complete scheme… hopefully we can make it without any major issues, but honestly is scary.

[@fingersm]

Sure is

[@murrayer5426]

Don't be scared. People get sick, especially kids. Your 10yo has a virtually 0% chance of becoming majorly ill.

[@ZDoggMD]

We all have a date with this virus. Being vaccinated is the best preparation, but even then MOST people without risk factors will do OK (as I suspect you will!)

[@Suspect333]

You'll be fine :)

[@LilCraftyNook]

Fear has done a lot to cause illness.

[@dalesnyder1807]

What about natural immunity? My wife and I had it March 2020 and had a t-cell test done 18 months after and it came back positive! But for some odd reason naturally immunity is totally ignored by the powers that be. Instead we get mandates etc. which is crap. Nevada, the state I reside has reached around 80% of the population has had it and recovered with 60%+ has had the vaccine so we should be fine but nope the powers that be can't let go! It's pissed me clean off!

[@shooster5884]

Immunity post infection and early treatment are probably only taken Seriously mostly by the unvaxed and or those who have had covid-19. The majority mainstream mindset seems to be vaccination and regular boosters are the only solution and they won't consider anything else as real.

[@katrinajones4342]

You need to be letting people who have Natural immunity, too. We are less likely to die compared to those with only two jabs! Read that study. Let’s point that out, too.

[@sr.liamthegreat6461]

Hi, do you have a link to a study for that? Super interested

[@chely452]

Thank you so much for providing such superb and concise information. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to read up on everything, gather information to then make it digestible for your viewers. You are such a breath of fresh air. I love the “alt middle” mindset that you have. My husband and I sit in the same view points. Keep spreading positivity and reputable data. Thank you for actually trying to educate the public on how to make their own educated decisions and how to source out information. You almost made me tear up at the end. We love you too! You are helping save lives!

[@frankstalzer2905]

Hey dr zdog, I tested positive last week Monday for covid!!! Not vaccinated I have zero symptoms and feel great!!! So I’m good now 👏🏻I still won’t get any covid shot especially now I have antibodies!!! 👍😊

[@jaysantos536]

Likely false positive. You still could die from DeltaCron.

[@frankstalzer2905]

@@jaysantos536 you could be right about the false positive! But dying from omicron for me highly unlikely 😏

[@frankstalzer2905]

@@jaysantos536 oh or even deltacron 😏

[@karlsinclair9918]

It's not the antibodies you should be glad of, it's the life long lasting tcells immunity.

[@karlsinclair9918]

@@jaysantos536 if immuno compromised...MAYBE. but the chances even of that are very very low.

[@andrewgrignon826]

Dr Z, I really enjoy your content and your stance on this pandemic. I watched your last video and was immediately drawn into your channel. I just wanted to say thank you for your videos and I thoroughly enjoy your content. Keep up the great work!

[@timlemke4076]

I’d love to see you do a really good, in-depth analysis of the data on masking. Because you seem very confident that most masks aren’t doing much and mandates are a waste of time. I do see data supporting this but I see a lot of other studies suggesting otherwise.

[@U.S.MarineGrunt1775]

Simple look at cdc guidelines at the beginning and even Dr Josef Mengele Fuaci said mask do not work, till they figured they could scare more people. Fear works great as in psychological warfare and propaganda. Then go read the research data on a real pandemic death rate being made worse by wearing mask it was called the Spanish flu. Those that forget their history ,or ignore it , or try to white wash it, are bond to repeat it.

[@krazywabbit]

We don’t need your voice on KZbin. We need your voice in DC and places where policy is made. Well said sir.

[@sweetsharie66]

Thank you for this. I’m a “covidian” who feels betrayed because omicron does not respect the vaccine! My group has been so careful but now everyone is getting sick anyway. I’m boosted but my life has been on hold almost two years and I’m fed up! Not quite ready to chill but I’m moving in that direction. 🙏🏾

[@yolandatweedeep4451]

You'll still get the omicron booster in march... 100%.

[@ldthap1716]

Because it’s not a vaccine…

[@ldthap1716]

@@yolandatweedeep4451 and in June. And in September. And in December.

[@Stopthecäq]

@@ldthap1716 what is it. Gene therapy?

[@ldthap1716]

@@Stopthecäq it’s called “the one-world government has turned tyrannical and wants to know how far they can push it”.

[@PrairieDad]

I started following you after I watched a video of yours where you talked about how doctors and nurses were suffering from moral injuries because of the healthcare system. I'm not scared of catching COVID, but I am utterly horrified of the many traumas that our healthcare workers are suffering while our population ignores their struggle.

[@melissasinclair9303]

This is where we are in thinking this through - vax and chill - but my 86 year old mother in law lives with us - it's not so simple for us and it's so hard.

[@roselieber]

Same here. I'm taking care of my 85 and 86 year old parents, one of them has cancer. This isn't over for us. You're not alone Melissa.

[@colinsoder]

But it can be simple if you're living with vulnerable people you can wear an n95 mask around them.

[@roselieber]

@@colinsoder While you sleep? While you shower? While you eat- or do you eat all your meals outside no matter the weather? No, Colin. It's not simple. Not to mention, neither of my parents can hear well and can't understand what I'm saying if I wear a mask. You try wearing one for 24 hours and get back to me.

[@melissasinclair9303]

@@colinsoder You do realize that these masks do not mean zero risk? and if you LIVE with someone, that would mean wearing them 24/7 so what do you do while eating? while sleeping? It's not a solution. We aren't just visiting. This is our home and we are her caretakers.

[@carissa4110]

I agree with most of what you said EXCEPT not testing asymptomatic people. I got Covid from an asymptomatic roommate (not PREsymptomatic… she was asymptomatic and only found out because she worked in health care and was informed of a positive exposure; she then tested positive after I’d already been around her). And now I have Post-Acute Covid Syndrome (AKA Long Covid). I passed it along to my very compromised mother. We ended up in the ER six weeks after contracting it with heart palpitations, tachycardia, and difficulty breathing. It’s almost a year later, and we’ve been vaxed and boosted, and we STILL have symptoms. I had to go on monthly injections to prevent the dizziness and mental confusion and migraines. I had to be off work for 5 months and still feel absolutely wiped out at the end of every work day and cannot stay awake, sometimes even driving home. I have had to give up on daily living that we take for granted (dishes, laundry, vacuuming, mopping), I have had to give up my social life, and more. And there are no indicators for who will get Long Covid. Yes, get tested after an exposure to protect those around you.

[@andrewstorey4991]

Great talk, as always, but I think a big omission in the discussion concerns long covid. I've personally never worried about dying from covid, but wow, the stats pre-omicron on long covid are unnerving. Does the scientific community understand this topic well? If not, what does that imply for both policy and personal self-care decision making?

[@Ayan-bp4dq]

Thanks for bringing long covid up. Definitely overlooked.

[@swagkidm10]

Currently still dealing with long Covid 😞 will be 2 years in august but im doing my best to get better 🙏

[@droneinthehood]

Thank you for bringing it up! Exactly, this gets forgotten very often. Pre-Omicron, it didn‘t look that promising for the vaccines to protect from long covid - there was not that much good data I feel, I really don‘t know what to think. The whole world seems to forget about it and only focus on the perceived mildness of Omicron, which is probably warranted for vaccinated people, at least for boosted ones, but the „mildness“ is being exaggerated for the unvaccinated, with just 25% less severity than Delta - that is not mild in my eyes.

[@sivoham1083]

It will be nice if Doc could address long Covid from Omicron.

[@andrewstorey4991]

@@droneinthehood Good thoughts. Yes, right now, perhaps out of a sheer, understandable desire to open the release valve after a long two years, people's assessment of where we are at right now feels very glossy. Ok, Omicron is "less severe." Got it. But what's the risk distribution looking like for the at-risk population? Again, long covid? Do we know? I'm not personally losing sleep over Omicron right now, but I do have concerns about at-risk populations and how people will relate to their understandable anxiety about unknown characteristics of Omicron. I think another element that is missing in this discussion is holding compassion for the at-risk folks in light of the uncertainties. Ok, yes, let's not use a giant policy hammer and mandate the heck out of society. Granted. But swinging the other direction and losing sight of, and not acknowledging, real on-going impacts of Omicron is a problem I think. I have four nurse friends who all tell the same story- utter exhaustion, cancellation of elective surgeries, greatly diminished staffing, trending toward overcapacity.

[@pdub673]

Couldn't agree more. As a second year med student, I hope to embody the rationality and empathy you always display when discussing these issues. You da man! #AltMiddle #ThinkForYouself

[@briananderson8428]

Yup, Dr. Z. It is largely, as you said, about "burning political capital" [among US residents]. We are burned out, and the tension between the public good and individual good is such that most are still very willing to get vaccinated (I'm getting my 2nd J&J dose next week), but most of us also are no longer willing to abide by restrictions regarding masking, distancing, and passports, all of which do almost nothing to either slow the spread or to decrease hospitalization and deaths directly attributable to Covid. It's stunning that Western governments in general do not see that they have almost completely expended their political capital with the constantly evolving mandates/requirements.

[@24cts]

Thank you - I am continually reminded .. “United we stand and divided we fall” -- What we can do to build bridges between those choosing vax - and those not - will help us all. Thanks for your efforts.

[@Kathykatz27]

Accept freedom of choice

[@mmeiselph7234]

The 72% of us who have already had COVID can also chill. Course I was never actually terribly concerned in the first place.

[@danbeck1593]

It’s kind of wild how different covid affects different individuals. My uncle, under 50 slightly overweight but very strong and otherwise healthy. He ended up in a coma with blood clots in his lungs. My grandmother, a life long smoker in her 70s with COPD, emphysema, and lung cancer (actively being treated and very high survival chance) caught covid before the vaccines were out. She tested positive at the hospital three times and her symptoms were as she puts it “it was a little bit harder to breath for a few days”.

[@MNP208]

Agreed, it's very perplexing. We know a guy in his late 40s who died from Delta. He was very active and an avid exerciser. Then a 300 lb patient with multiple comorbidities will barely have the sniffles. In the distant future someone will be able to look back and solve this dilemma. There is something going on that nobody has yet discovered.

[@raquelish]

Thank you for being compassionate about those who decided not to get the vaccine. A lot of us in the medical community have family members who have made this decision and that are vulnerable to the virus. None of us would like to have a family member not receive care because of this. Thanks for emphasizing this point.

[@TheWinnipegstorm]

Well...tested positive on rapid test.. Fully vaxed, not yet boosted. -Got laryngitis stayed home from work, 5 days later more symptoms happened, did the test. Its positive. Illness symptoms are getting a bit worse, Now coughing, bad joint pains, but not worried..staying home till better and chillen.

[@shooster5884]

You could have delta, it's still around.

[@bullymaguire632]

0:08 I see the "they're getting it left and right" joke 🤣🤣

[@johnz8112]

LOL! Omicron the great unifier we were all looking for!

[@bullymaguire632]

@@johnz8112 I hope you're right and this actually fully unites the two sides (it probably won't)

[@user-hy7kq8gw2g]

What

[@holdenrobbins852]

"Nothing else to do..." beside Vax and chill. Some might say you can always be healthier, lower your bmi, get good sleep, minimize stress, get sunlight/vitamin d, etc. But yeah, don't flip out on your fellow citizens for doing thier own thing.

[@itscool770]

Im pregnant and my 2 year old and me both got omicron. It was so mild. I’m not vaccinated because I had immunity from when I had covid in December 2020. Obviously my immunity was still decent because I’m 35 weeks pregnant and barely had sniffles over this variant. Only knew I had it because my entire extended family at Christmas got it.

[@teresadiservio761]

Prayers for you that you're fully recovered soon & the babies - both the 2 yr old and the one on the way - are fully recovered AND fully armed with natural immunity after this!! ❤

[@Ass4ssinX]

COVID immunity only lasts a few months. You just lucked out with it being mild.

[@itscool770]

@@Ass4ssinX it was mild for me both times I’ve had it. It’s nothing to do with luck I take very good care of myself. Make all my food from scratch, exercise daily, meditation and breath work. 😄

[@itscool770]

@@teresadiservio761 thank you. The 2 year old was better after 24 hours. I was better after a couple days. No lingering symptoms. We feel great. Husband never got it:)

[@itscool770]

@@Ass4ssinX also, covid immunity lasts far longer than vaccinated immunity. I know a few people who have had their boosters and ended up in hospital from this variant🤷🏻‍♀️ I’ll take my chances with getting covid. The vaccine does nothing for young healthy people as far as I can see.

[@caitlindelmas1703]

Some clear guidelines are definitely needed. I work 2 different jobs and live with someone that tested positive New Year’s Eve. One job made come to a meeting in person on Saturday and the other is having me work from home for another week. Not saying that one or the other is wrong, but it makes no sense.

[@pastoralicia1]

I wish I could actually chill. I work at Michigan State university, and let’s talk about draconian measures. Vaccine and booster mandatory, masks inside building and starting spring semester online. There is so much fear and so many mandates, that I am very stressed out. If I could I would be quitting my job, unfortunately that is not an option yet. I am fully vaccinated and will get my booster on Wednesday only because they force me to do it, no because I believe it will make a difference for me.

[@jenni0278]

Are they liable for any adverse reactions from making you take the shots to keep your job?

[@pastoralicia1]

@@jenni0278 I don't know,. That is actually a good point.

[@charliedallachie3539]

It’s been 2 years now, at what point do we just let it go?

[@JustinLatham]

One note, when saying the Rogan hive mind, you should also mention monoclonal antibodies. He’s not preaching just ivermectin, in fact he doesn’t even “preach” ivermectin.

[@harrycordell7769]

You know what I have been around the block a few times.At least long enough to know when someone us doing a good job and Doc it's you were so lucky to have you and thanks for caring.

[@susancurrie9246]

I love the way you continue to make sense by continuing to promote the middle

[@NikkalaVaiese]

Thats the part that makes me vomit in my mouth with this guy. Tries so hard to be the level headed middle guy and he’s roped so many in by playing this role. Sadly he’s no different to the complete liars shoving the jab down peoples throats telling them it’s safe and effective, when it’s far from that. Satan’s minions are hard at work….but their time is short. Watch……😡 Every single last one of them will pay the price for all the people they deceived. With their life. Some through the courts and others will CHOOSE to check out. The earth will be cleansed of evil.

[@therealityofit8909]

I am unvaxed and was positive last week. Im 34, take care of my body and eat healthy.. I had a bad soar throat for 3 days and then was just tires on the 4th! Everyone needs to make the decision that's best for them I agree! Lets go back to normal and stop fighting!!!

[@sunnyinaspen]

I'm locked into the Darwinism of covid. I'm vaxed. You do you. Hope we make it. I'm still masking as I can't work if sick(cold,flu/covid)

[@ellobetchess]

Me too.

[@ZoZo-mq7yj]

Same

[@iliv2jump1]

I still think people who are covid positive aren't caring enough to not infect others... High risk I'm supposed to chill... not care they don't care?

[@lindarothera7838]

What about the side effects of the vax?

[@RealWorldGarage]

Last week (1/3)I went in to be tested for the big C, I was told negative, treated for a sinus infection and sent on my way. Today (1/10)my wife is showing the same symptoms I had a week ago. Goes to the same clinic, was given a test, but was told if you have been vaccinated and boosted (we both are) the Omicron won’t show up on a test until it has developed for a few days after on set of symptoms. Why is this not being said anywhere??

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

Regardless of the variant, the test will not (assuming no false positives) register a positive result until your body has had time to make a lot of the virus. The test relies on a sufficient volume of virus in your airway that can be transferred to the swab. The PCR test just amplifies whatever is on the swab then looks for pathogens. Throughout, the problem has been determining how much amplification is reasonable.

[@gemmarium4337]

I recently had covid, I am unvaccinated, and had the same thing happen. Tested negative while I had full blown symptoms (fever, headache, body aches, fatigue) but then tested positive a week later when most of my symptoms had resolved.

[@AN-jw2oe]

I heard that since omicron affects the throat more, adding a throat swab to the nasal sample would greatly increase true positive results.

[@chasisaac1094]

I had CV before vaxx. My testing was a mess PCR positive. 10 days later PCR negative 1 day later doc instant test was positive. 3 days later negative PCR and every test since neg. I have several comorbids and only had minor symptoms, I took 3 naps.

[@ritaromney584]

@@chasisaac1094 That's why I think testing, the way in which it is done. is a totally scam!

[@bkbergman9258]

Enjoyed the episode. Thanks for contributing your knowledge and experience with the ZDogg Community.

[@alantasbler4581]

I've been pretty much vax and chill since I completed the first two doses. The only thing i'm still little concerned about is the possibility of long Covid. Some data suggests it can occur even in mild cases, at significantly higher rates than one would expect. I don't need any additional cognitive impairment. As Woody Allen said, "My brain is my second favorite organ."

[@gigid9606]

That's the worst case scenario

[@AdaAdi77]

For long covid, Check out Gupta program and DNRS.

[@shellbell2167]

I have Dysautonomia specifically POTS and it was onset by a virus. They are very similar to long COVID. There are people joining our FB groups like crazy with the same symptoms SOB, presyncope, tachycardia, foggy head, malaise, etc. all after COVID, but other viruses cause this as well.

[@AdaAdi77]

@@shellbell2167 a virus in April 2019 caused me ME/CFS. My doctor works in public health and prevention and recommended Gupta Program, DNRS and some trauma treatment such as EMDR and EFT tapping. I recommend brainspotting instead of the EMDR. I got rid of POTS just by watching a video of Gupta abd understanding what was happening.

[@shellbell2167]

@@AdaAdi77 interesting. I’m in “remission” right now, but it still flares after viruses or vaccines. I will check it out. I was seen at Vanderbilt and East VA medical as well has a hosts of other specialists. They never could pinpoint a cause except a virus and probably MTFR due to my Mom having it.

[@annethall]

My hubs and I are 70 years old. We have been on "Vax and Chill" since lock down in Bay Area. We had to leave Australia early as Bay Area was locking down and we didn't know what was to be. Few had masks on that flight to SFO. Since that March 2020 hubs and I have been to Hawaii twice, road trip to Oregon, road trip to S. CA, flight and road trip in Southern Utah, and upcoming flight to San Diego. Flying we wear the N95 mask. We seldom go out to eat even on trips. Our last three week to Maui, which brought us home two weeks ago, we went out to eat twice and both were outside. My point is that one can enjoy, chill, and continue on, one foot in front of the other and be cautious.

[@lindamurphy4535]

It would be great to hear you talk about with 1,000's of us vaccinated already and now getting natural immunity from Omicron - why or should we still get boosters without getting clear information as to how that would protect us more than what we already have. I don't want to take my advice from a Big Pharma CEO who obviously would love if we took their product forever

[@malianelson8151]

Totally agree with this. I’m more cautious because I’m pregnant and currently work as a health aide in a public school. I’m fully vaccinated and am due for my booster sometime in March.

[@ronroebuck2196]

What about long covid? I might have missed it, but I haven’t seen you comment on it and it’s supposedly happening to a large segment of the population

[@karlsinclair9918]

Tbh long covid was overstated. Long viral symptoms, such as myalgia have always been common enough after thyroiditis, laryngitis, colds, flu...any virus at all. All you can do is rest up.

[@marklemont3735]

There are ~1.3 million people in the UK with long Covid. About 2% of the population. In the US this would be about six million people.

[@chellepatino1675]

Vaccines protect against long covid

[@gigid9606]

Deltaand I still have some lingering symptoms mostly in the sinus and ear area but it's seriously rare to get long covid issues and neurological issues I doubt that the majority of the people have that I really doubt it

[@Alex06CoSonic]

Happening to large segments of the population? Maybe 5-10% who were unvaxxed and caught it before the latest variant. Anything larger than that is crazy talk, especially for Omicron. But now that everyone I know (including my family and I) are catching it or have caught it - I can attest that none of us have had any long covid.

[@AlerieHightower]

This was so interesting. I'm currently in a "mixed marriage". I'm more vax and chill, and my husband is still quite a covidian. It's a little tense at the moment, but I'm hoping after this omicron surge subsides, maybe he'll join me on the chill side. In the meantime, we're both compromising, with the vaxxed and cautious routine.

[@glissandogirl]

I love how rational you have been through all this. I can’t wait until you can talk about other things.

[@carolschlismann7558]

If we sell N-95 masks to the public, who will fit test the wearer? I have some experience with this. I have done fit testing at two different jobs in my nursing career. I failed my last fit test; I needed a differently designed N-95. How will the public know if the N-95 is right for them if it has been purchased from Amazon? If no fit test is done, the buyers may think they are more protected than they actually are. Additionally, the public probably doesn't change masks frequently enough. You can't wear them indefinitely.

[@seanallen7804]

Why don't you have an interview with Malone or Mccullough? Please let us see a debate.

[@shooster5884]

Or have Dr Marik, or Dr DeMello re early treatment, and Dr Bruce Patterson re treatment for long covid and post vaccine injury on here.

[@heatherhadfield7942]

Why can't public policy be focused first around general health, not being obese, vitamin D, prophylactics, treatment? Why is it nothing but the vaccine? You had me going for a while there.

[@Dudewhoswinning]

Because general health like obesity isn't something you can drastically change overnight. That requires medium or long term change. When Covid is with us right now, losing weight and being healthy isn't going to change your risk profile for at least 6 months. So the vaccine is a lot more actionable in the short term

[@Dudewhoswinning]

Let me add, I agree that keeping healthy is 100% the best protection. But getting a vaccine is an instant boost that is not that intrusive

[@heatherstacy2976]

I get you and agree, but public health has been telling people not to be obese and get adequate nutrition for some time now. That's not a new concept because of the pandemic, people are just seeing how the comorbidities play out in real time with a virus. There are other treatments being spoken about as well, like monoclonal antibodies and several new antiviral drugs. The comment above mine hits the nail on the head.

[@Narrowgaugefilms]

I've always thought if you want to incentivize vaccination, you have to let people go free once they have the shot. Telling them they should get the shot and then still have to hide down in the basement is just telling people the vaccines don't really work and gives an excuse to people who are against them.

[@neowild]

Except it should have never been somethign that should be made to happen. If someone told you that you had to take a medical treatment that they barely tested or be locked away until you take the treatment for the sole reason of encouraging you to take the treatment there is no justification for locking the person away. It has been demonstrated that there was never a substantial enough benefit to justify locking away unvaccinated individuals. And as you have said it does give more incentive not to be vaxxed. I personally believe that the vaccines work at reducing your risk of sever disease and death, but this is especially so if you are older. As for other concerns of rare negative outcomes from even mild cases of covid like long covid as they call it, there are also rare cases of severe negative outcomes from vaccines as well. The thing is that life has always been full of risk and here it is clear that people should have a right to choose the risk they take. Last year the influenza killed more kids than covid, we are not banding together to create lockdowns and vaccine mandates to stop influenza. Trust me, it breaks my heart that any single person should die from disease, but it is also a part of life and as a whole human kind needs to rise up and continue living because being alive is about more than just breathing and states like New York show that hiding away shows we have no power to stop a virus by hiding away.

[@heatherstacy2976]

100% agree

[@molsauce]

Unfortunately we learned that these gene therapy injections don’t provide “safety” for a very long period of time.

[@rexx9496]

@@molsauce how can you watch a channel like and still be calling it gene therapy?

[@carolschlismann7558]

I couldn't believe the poor messaging used to promote vaccination. "Get vaccinated, wear a mask, social distance, and we'll get through this". It didn't present any upside to getting vaccinated.

[@Whitney121100]

Agree with you. My issue is that the “Families First Coronavirus Response Act” expired on 12/31/21 and many businesses, schools and institutions are STILL requiring employees to quarantine 5-10 days if they test positive, regardless of vaccination status, and now they aren’t required to pay them. You can’t use FMLA or STD to quarantine. You may not have enough vacation/sick days to quarantine. It’s a HUGE issue!

[@Arithmetic00]

I’m unvaxxed and was considering getting it before Omicron exploded overnight in my area. It feels almost pointless to get vaccinated now. I feel like I could get Omicron at the vaccine site, or I got it yesterday and it’s currently brewing. It just seems like the vax ship has sailed. I’ve finally waited so long that I think I can’t change my mind, haha. No reliable data at all with this Omicron variant.

[@rosalynreynoso]

I was in your same boat. Ended up getting covid on New Year’s Day. It was a day and a half of extreme fatigue and some muscle aches and then that was it. I never isolated from my family. Almost better to just get it over with at this point. Everyone’s going to get it.

[@geraldinebyrne2618]

Iam also unvacinated and feel exactely as you do.......No vacines for me!

[@lburrsshinyhunts2253]

Pfizer releasing omicron vaccine in March anyway

[@putthecandleback9]

Also unvaxed and had covid over Christmas.

[@jmgmetal]

@@lburrsshinyhunts2253 what’s the point tho, it’s mild af

[@lauren67061]

As someone who has come to be very middle ground in the whole covid/vaccine mindset I’m ecstatic to finally find others who are the same.

[@sharonesuhr]

Maybe the hospitals would be less stressed if they allowed the previously infected, but not vaxxed, employees to return to work? It seems as if so many vaxxed hospital employees are out bc of Covid - the very thing the mandated vaccine was supposed to prevent.

[@tmlogan139]

Hear, hear!

[@KRKimbler]

I wondered that. I'm sure it's verifiable one way or the other and I haven't lookrd it up. As of now I strongly suspect that's what's happened.

[@MNDanno]

The soft hand "alt-middle" feels nice. Unfortunately doesn't do anything for when you need a surgery or other care and there are 0-2 staffed ICU beds available in your entire metro.