Most Delusional League Ever

[@Zealandism]

WARNING this video contains live stream spoilers because I forgot not to do that

[@aristeia71]

Watching on my phone and didn’t see the comments before the video. Oh well.

[@DrZaius3141]

tbf, it's not really a spoiler, because SPOILER WARNING You're managing Tottenham, so obviously you won't win any real trophies.^^

[@danielhavoc889]

Btw, unsure if it'll work in this instance, but Ublock origin tends to be the best adblock available right now, and it probably has the highest chance of going undetected by sites.

[@laurieafc8990]

Yee he done me dirty

[@oj397]

Noooooooooooooooo - Darth Vader type shit 😭😭

[@cervo06]

well, that is a spoiler for us youtube folks lol

[@SuperJNG18]

WAS GONNA SAY, he's still at Saint-Etienne and getting an offer from Bayern at my point. I know I'm slow, and I knew he moved on to Tottenham cuz I saw the thumbnails, but I didn't know he got THAT far.

[@spsawyer22]

I mean he is at Spurs so we knew how it would go

[@SuperJNG18]

@@spsawyer22 This is true.

[@poiuytrewq1553]

He gave all the score lines too 😂 nothing left to chance

[@Zealandism]

My sincerest apologies I forgot this channel was real, I won't spoil any stream stuff again

[@mintaz1602]

Jokes on you Zealand, i have KZbin premium so I didn't get your ad!

[@declangaming24]

Don't need it I usually skip it

[@FermentingSmeg]

I didn’t get an ad. I don’t even have premium. Zealands power is dwindling

[@therealking6202]

I wanted to be the first to make this joke!

[@RedGunBullets]

VPN Connect to Iran or Russia and no ads anywhere, thank me later

[@gezblair]

KZbin Premium is best fiver a month I’ve ever spent. Honestly, so worth it. KZbin so much better without ads. Especially the music. Unlimited video jukebox.

[@Reaper_ginger]

Your first mistake was going to the daily mail expecting to read

[@andycook888]

Hahaha Zealand discovered the Daily Mail 🤣

[@dontwannaname]

I hope he never visits the Daily Mail comments section...

[@hendryckruiz6227]

Ur gay

[@Tuck3tt]

Daily Fail*

[@mattshark7665]

@@Tuck3ttdaily heil

[@quacky1874]

When you want sensationalist lies and racism.

[@SoubhikMajumdar]

Yes, the daily mail's website is designed by labradors

[@alistairwall5470]

Bit harsh on labradors that

[@SoubhikMajumdar]

​@@alistairwall5470 can't argue against that, actual labradors would've done a better job

[@TheSilentScreamX]

Labradors are intelligent. The Daily Fail would be lucky to have anyone as intelligent as a Labrador on staff.

[@nathanielratcliff7456]

Sadly it's totally deliberate. They give zero fks how bad it is.

[@PaulWinstanleyPhysio]

Zealand: "The Daily Mail... whats is this shit?" Many Brits think this every single day...

[@thargoff]

The Baltic countries suggested to combine their 3 leagues (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) into one Baltic league. I don't know how realistic it is and how UEFA would react.

[@Renatoioi]

it should be possible. arent there some welsh teams in the english football pyramid as well?

[@skeleton123100]

swansea yes@@Renatoioi

[@tannerwilson4843]

I think you’re going to see more UEFA Member Leagues (especially in smaller countries) looking to do this in the near future to help build up their leagues. Even some mid-tier leagues possibly as well (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg; Switzerland & Austria; possibly the Balkans Nations like Croatia & Serbia).

[@marcbrisbane6800]

​it would make leagues more attractive and a higher standard so it should be a win win all round

[@henkkoonstra4014]

netherlands and belgium used to want to do this too

[@mattshark7665]

Tbf, the daily mail is the one of the UK’s greatest embarrassments

[@SuperJNG18]

Them and The Sun are both rags

[@mattshark7665]

@@SuperJNG18 you’re being too kind

[@SuperJNG18]

@@mattshark7665 you’re right, at least a rag would be worth wiping your ass with

[@Nstanier]

@@SuperJNG18 I wouldn't wipe my arse with them. They might get shit on me.

[@cattodotmp4]

@@SuperJNG18 don't forget the Daily Express as well

[@sambenham1945]

0:05 “FM isn’t realistic” FM:

[@DR3ADER1]

Welcome to Tottenham Hotspur.

[@DrZaius3141]

In other sports it's not too uncommon. The Austrian hockey league has teams from Slovenia, Hungary and Italy, for example. Obviously, traveling distances are a lot shorter in that instance and Italy really has the closest (geographically) league for Fenerbahce to join where it still makes sense. The problem is: Italy is so far up in terms of the UEFA coefficient that adding Fenerbahce wouldn't increase their number of teams for Europe. So if they take one of the spots, it would actively hurt Italian clubs. Therefore, they'd either never get international football or they need some weird special clause. Or indeed they would find a smaller league where they would contribute to coefficient points and eventually "earn" their spot. But clubs in smaller leagues don't have the money to travel that far for away games. Closer leagues (Bulgaria, Romania) in contrast are too weak to accommodate them. TL;DR: Either way sucks.

[@Platplays767]

3:40 *laughs in Premium*

[@idzan-private]

Laughs in Brave with AdBlock 🤣

[@DR3ADER1]

I just use adblockers and anti-trackers. No need to pay when you've got a proper browser extension on your PC.

[@rockerfarm6445]

laughs in ublock

[@nickhamblin8179]

I think a more likely outcome would be them joining the Saudi Pro League - they'll want to continue promoting themselves & luring one of the biggest clubs in a predominantly Muslim country might appeal to them. They may even offer enough money to offset them not being in the Champions League, although expect them to argue that they should still be allowed entry because they are based in Europe. I don't think this will happen, but I wouldn't be shocked.

[@VarjoMedia]

Fun fact no one asked for - photosensitive epilepsy is only triggered by a rather thin band of frequencies (how many times the light flashes per second). Around 12-14Hz

[@shibafm]

Interesting.

[@nameanteater4772]

“I end up on a website called ‘Daily Mail’ … what is this shit” - Zealand 2024

[@nameanteater4772]

Never has Zealand felt more relatable than this

[@samgunn12]

Before WWII the DM was very pro “man with the toothbrush moustache”. It’s how it got its nickname, The Daily Heil!

[@FlatDerrick]

The point of the Daily Mail is not to read the articles, it is to read the headlines and come up with the most swivel eyed conservative response you can as the content yourself.

[@joaomarques4030]

can't wait for the debut of the New Orleans Feners in the MLS

[@akadirkutlug]

Fenerbahce did not clear any wrong doing. Turkish court decided that the evidence, which caused Fenerbahce to be banned from Europe by UEFA, was not captured in legal ways. Therefore the case was dropped. Even in the summary statement by the Turkish court says there was match fixing and it was confessed by the players, coaches and the team managements. They were punished by UEFA because Fenerbahce did match fixing and UEFA did not care about how those evidence collected. But they weren’t punished in Turkey because of technicality.

[@Cancancan1234]

Which players and coaches confessed ?

[@Cancancan1234]

Also everyone was acquitted and found innocent so I don’t know what you’re on about just check Wikipedia

[@mattikr0718]

The whole turkish farmers league should be banned from european football with all that shady stuff going on, doesn't matter if it's finances, officials, players, etc.

[@Cancancan1234]

@@mattikr0718 well that’s just a stupid suggestion

[@akadirkutlug]

@@Cancancan1234 Iskender Alin, Ibrahim Akin, Bulent Uygun, Sekip Mosturoglu. These are off the top of my head. Instead of asking me to read the great reliable source of information on Wikipedia, you should read papers and court documents so you can see more names. I wonder how and why this case was closed with all these people acquitted even though all the evidence and the confessions were made and found. Please do not copy and paste what you read on certain sites. The Turkish justice system can be a joke, incompetent, unfair, and biased but UEFA does not mess around with these types of things if you are from a poor country. If they really find you guilty they punish you.

[@tiagovilares3430]

3:40 Jokes on you, I didn't receive an ad

[@hkar4385]

me too

[@lisaruhm6681]

praise ublock.

[@poiuytrewq1553]

The bit with the ad was clean 🧼

[@Royallblu]

On Websites like these I normally switch my browser to the "reader"- Mode -> no ads and just the normal text + pictures

[@kyleeasy1250]

American discovers daily mail for the first time

[@Dan_Gilpin]

Daily Mail is one of the worst newspapers in the world, this video was actually one of their better reviews.

[@rayeardley7618]

Ah, the Daily Fail... I'd suggest that was your first mistake sir.

[@DaCaLsTa7777]

Royal Dutch Airlines? Well as they say, Old New York was once New Amsterdam

[@joseft6071]

If they do move to spain, it wouldn't even be the furthest away trip Girona fans would need to make lol

[@Tris2000]

If you think that Daily Mail page is bad, you should try reading it on a phone. There again, anything about the Daily Mail is terrible. It’s a horrible rag. By the way, I don’t skip your KZbin ads. Well, I might if after the second ad it says the next one is 90 seconds, but if I can give you at least a couple of full ads I do, without skipping. :-)

[@sjeskey8361]

I've never seen a non-brit be angry at the daily mail website, here we're just used to it and never click on their articles.

[@thargoff]

Beware, KZbin LIVE spoilers :D

[@Platplays767]

TharGOD always delivers

[@anardi7112]

Joke's on you, all those ads earned the Daily Mail entire fractions of cents for views.

[@dresdenfalls]

worth pointing out - in rugby League - Toronto entered the British Rugby League system pyramid at the bottom. Reaching the top league but then having to leave due to covid. So is its possible. yes. It would be good to throw a wrench in another countries top division. - but why do they automatically get top league status? question for anther day.

[@iambicpentakill]

The USA "National" hockey and baseball leagues have Canadian teams too

[@dresdenfalls]

@@iambicpentakill its more about the distance. imagine having to do a 10 hour flight to play a game. toronto to vancouver is 5 hour plane ride - toronto to leeds is 10.

[@piekay7285]

As far as I know even if you set an ad every minute KZbin will decide if they play them

[@magruster]

The title should be "The Downfall of the daily mail".

[@VodkaHellstorm]

You say that like it was ever good or credible in any way.

[@magruster]

@@VodkaHellstorm lol idk how you inferred that from what I said, but you do you fam 😂

[@VodkaHellstorm]

Just saying "downfall" implies it had somewhere to come down from. Same team, mate.

[@drows6156]

Yoo Z, ever since you Made this version of your channel you are now the VOICE of Footy! Do not ever think maybe the views are less here that this channel is ever irrelevant... It's SUPER NECESSARY! ❤

[@kaangirgin9154]

That journalist ertem şener is like a clown. He exagerates everything and make headlines. Dont get me wrong he is fun if you dont take him really serious. The real news are Fenerbahce is considering just do not playing rest of the games this season and they are ok to getting relegated as a punishment. They will vote what ti do next week .

[@joshualiley]

There are plenty of instances of teams joining leagues from neighbouring countries, even if their home country also has a league. Think the 5 Welsh teams in England, TNS and Berwick Rangers from England in Wales and Scotland, Derry City from Northern Ireland in Ireland, the 3 Canadian teams in the MLS, FC Andorra in Spain, Wellington Phoenix (and from next season, Auckland FC) in Australia, etc. It would make sense for them to join a neighbouring country's league, not one miles away. 1) Bulgaria. Nearest country to Fenerbahce, shortest average travel distance for every team in the division to Istanbul, and I don't believe there's too much tension with Bulgaria compared with other countries in the region. 2) Greece. Bordering country, not ridiculously far for other teams to travel to, higher average quality so more competitive. 3) Cyprus. Unlikely due to the Turkish annexation of Northern Cyprus, and the fact it's worse quality than the other 2 just mentioned and a further travel distance. 4) Saudi Pro League. Less likely due to change of continent and further travel distance, but probably a higher quality than the rest of the leagues mentioned, also a fellow Muslim country, and Fenerbahce are geographically on the continent of Asia so it wouldn't be too out there. Problem is, Asia doesn't allow foreign clubs into the AFC Champions League even if they play in an Asian league, so that would probably put them off. 5) Egypt. Shorter travel time than Saudi Arabia and still a Muslim country, but still a continental switch and one they have no prior affiliation with. However, the Egyptian league provides a decent quality, probably matching that of Bulgaria, and there isn't any apparent restriction on foreign clubs in the African Champions League, but that's because virtually none currently exist, so it's not a problem they will have had to have considered before. Also, continental games in Africa will be a much bigger trek than Europe or Asia.

[@freddtheredd]

3:51 no add for me

[@LeenTiger]

It's the history of the Tottenham

[@400Awesomo]

Can Fenerbahce handle cold night in Stoke?

[@nathanallan4161]

Zealand discovers the Daily Mail. Or as it is better known, the Daily Fail. A click baiters wet dream.

[@davidashby1850]

Ah the daily fail. That is one of the many toilet rolls tht pass as a news paper in England 😂

[@gabrieldiamond4607]

Team's to blow a 3-1 lead, Golden State Warriors and Zealand

[@Kasualclaret]

I feel like it’s an intriguing problem I feel like the way this could be sorted is put the pressure on the Turkish FA from UEFA, threaten that if they don’t sort out these issues they’ll face a suspension from European competitions. I mean it wouldn’t be the first time they did that

[@DMFroomer]

How did you manage to outspurs Spurs?

[@gugga2745]

zealandism is the kenny for real of the football world

[@chodeoriki4113]

I was so confused when I didn’t get an ad 😂.

[@johnotoole6659]

3:39 Jokes on you Zealand, I have premium I haven't seen an ad in years

[@peoplelikefrank]

The creator gets money from your payment.

[@johnotoole6659]

@@peoplelikefrank I know, but I still don't see ads

[@Herpy88]

Thats an interesting targeted ad chair workout for seniors

[@BlueWoWTaylan]

Yea, Fener does this every few years. But when things go in their favor...they are quiet. I mean that 'Cleared of wrong doing' crap? Yea, they didn't get 'cleared'. And the President is also a fan of their club and was quite 'supportive' of them until he propped up another team 'Istanbul Başakşehir' and got a Stadium with his own name on it. It is the eternal wheel of 'which big club is favored this time' and in the recent times, it is Galatasaray. And I see this as a Beşiktaş fan who, by our own incompetence, suffer quite a lot but also certain 'decisions' in these derbies. I mean, just look at the league table and see how BIG the gaps are with Galatasaray is at 81 points. Fener is 79...the next closest? Trabzon with 49 and then us Beşiktaş at 46. Compared to last year, it is RIDICULOUS...hilariously so. 50 goal difference both teams have compared to the rest of the league. And all the money those teams 'found' lying around while riddled in debts to sign those big name players... So forgive me if I am not sympathetic to Fener. And hell, if any other league is stupid enough to take them, go ahead, see how that turns out.

[@daytoncardone7373]

Me having KZbin premium not watching Zealand ads

[@kingkai18]

I can see this as a move to get the league to crack down on this kind of stuff

[@fredericateather8249]

My premium was too powerful for your tricks Zealand

[@AndreaChiarolini]

Jokes on you Zealand i got 2 unskippable ads. Not just one.

[@JoDyMa]

Well... It's not like this has not happened before. Newport, Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham for starters in English league system Wellington Phoenix in Australian League system

[@ieuandeakin6497]

Even if for example Serie A accepted them, at what point would they enter? What about the teams promoted from Serie B? Would fenerbahçe have to start from the regional italian leagues? On a side note that would be an interesting fm save, making a foreign team start from the 10th tier of english football

[@mikemoore5263]

The closest American Equal to the European Soccer System is the NCAA college set up, and it's happening here with conferences changing and dissolving all together, it's just a huge money grab, and can totally see this happening in Europe

[@rockerfarm6445]

Okay, i don't have a horse in the turkish league but i gotta say it's hilarious to hear one of the Big3 Istanbul Clubs complain about unfair treatment from their federation

[@emirebenike]

Seeing that Fener have been wrongfully accused matchfixing by a lawyer who is allied to a terörist organization (feto). He said that the fener president would go and hide which the president did the opposite of. The lawyer himself was seen fleeing the country

[@guluturk]

because it is ridiculous. we’re talking about the club that has already been proven of match fixing once, and consistently wins games over the years through questionable penalties in stoppage time. just because they’ve been on the bad side of Trabzonspor’s psycho fans a few times doesn’t change the fact that they’re the most spoiled and entitled club arguably in all of football. the world would genuinely be a better place without Şikebahçe.

[@ezvioc]

I would combine the Greek, Balkan and Turkish leagues. That would give better ability for good talents from the region to hang around, as opposed to immediately being signed to Germany France etc.

[@TwoPoachedEggs]

if you want a good rabbithole to dive into, look into Trabzonspor's history within the Turkish league and you'll see their fan base has full right to feel like the Turkish FA has been against them over the past 20-30 years. Why? Because Trabzonspor was the first team outside of Istanbul to win the title, and when they won their first, they won more and were somewhat of a dynasty within Turkey following their first title win. This was an offense to the "establishment" aka the big 3 (Gala, Fener, Besiktas), in a sense of "the audacity of Trabzonspor to take the title away from Istanbul". The most egregious one is what the Trabzon fans call "the stolen season", a year where they were on top for the full season up until the end, when Fener went on an insane winning run to steal the title. Later the president of Fener went to jail for matchfixing, but the Turkish FA let Fener keep the title instead of Trabzonspor. The distaste from Trabzon fans towards the Turkish FA has not cooled down since then, a former Trabzonspor player has a statue in Trabzon depicting the moment he "sent off" the referee with the ref's red card (the ref had dropped his red card on the ground, the Trabzonspor player picked it up and "sent off" the ref with it). That's how much the action meant to Trabzon, it was a statement against the FA. There's a great COPA90 documentary on Trabzon, I'd recommend it.

[@maseluss]

Another thing to consider is, even if Fenerbahçe joins another league, they won't start in the 1st division of said league, no team would ever accept being relegated just because a team from another country wants to join them, that's just stupid lol (unless they're hugely compensated financially but EVEN THEM that's pretty stupid)

[@Nooroodin84]

You’re Goated for that. Subscribed.

[@manning0]

I'm guessing because I'm in a different country, I didn't get the advert haha

[@pjkerrigan20]

4:45 Holy Cross mentioned let’s goooo

[@karius1754]

This is sad cuz I used to love turk football

[@livetorideridetolive4673]

3:40 laughs in adblocker

[@alexcampbell569]

National leagues would be terrible for match going fans. Imagine someone from the bottom of England playing someone at the top of Scotland would be a massive expense trip

[@benjaminguzman3428]

Honestly, even with the spoiler, the stream is still worth watching

[@reverendroar]

Zealand this is why you should run because Murdoch’s Daily Mail is running after you…

[@mikehernandez6345]

I remember when i had basic youtube. Your threat to show me an ad genuinely concerned me.

[@Kaspisify]

I don't think that they are actually seriously considering it. I think they are saying it because they want their own FA to take things seriously and fix the league. Putting some pressure on them etc.

[@GabrilLokaum]

8:49 "Fenerbahçe says YES to the Serie A. Unfortunately, the Serie A didn't ask them anything"

[@pancake7035]

im using an adblocker. did he really put an ad there? lol

[@hkar4385]

I didn't get it

[@InvadedOath]

As a fan in England I would love to see a situation where there are 2-3 pan-European leagues which then break down into regional leagues and then national leagues in a proper pyramid structure that would be the new standard. Given the lack of competition in a number of leagues I think that’s the natural direction. Critically, it must not be a closed league, which would destroy the competitive European structures

[@declangaming24]

I managed Fenerbache on EAFC for a season i signed some ageing stars and won the Turkish cup and league. Sadly I'm at some bundesliga 2 team

[@Bagster321]

Wait till you read Daily Mail Australia. It's even worse

[@SauROnmiKE]

Joke's on you I have premium, you better start running to get in shape for that $

[@PunnyPanther]

Guess you could go for a run to get over it

[@scouse_roar]

Channeling Dr Benji

[@matreimer]

I don't have premium, I don't have an ad blocker. I got no add at 3:40

[@emirebenike]

And now there is a leak of a referee meeting where hugh dallas roasts refs who gave cheap penalties

[@tyrranyrex]

Welcome to British "journalism"

[@tyronejoshua1613]

Me watching this with KZbin Premium 🙂

[@octavianpopescu4776]

Me watching this without KZbin Premium: there was no ad. Or at least I didn't get one.

[@joshualiley]

Came for a video about Fenerbahce, stayed for a 6 minute rant about the adverts on Daily Mail

[@clark-ht3vv]

I didn't get the ad 😂

[@Tris2000]

The only one which would make sense is a close-by fellow UEFA country. Since the Turks don’t get on with Greece or Armenia, Georgia I’m not sure about, Bulgaria seems the most obvious choice, they even share a land border and Bulgaria might even be happy to have the financial help that having a famous team might bring in terms of TV revenue, visiting fans etc.

[@octavianpopescu4776]

I don't think they'd welcome the competition.

[@Tris2000]

@@octavianpopescu4776 Bulgarian football is on such a low at the moment (they accepted the FIFA series that even Albania thought was beneath them!) I think it could help them. I think even Ludgorets Razgrad, who have won every season since 2011, would even appreciate having decent opposition. It’s not as though they would lose an automatic champions league place. I suspect the Ludgorets v Fenerbahce match would sell out and Ludgorets would welcome the cash injection too.

[@octavianpopescu4776]

@@Tris2000 But wouldn't the other clubs at least want them to start from the lowest leagues? It would be unfair for them to just show up and jump over a lot of teams trying to get to the top level.

[@Tris2000]

@@octavianpopescu4776 Yes, you're right. Of course it is unfair, I never said it would be fair! I just think that if they were going to do it anyway, Bulgarian FA and Bulgarian fans are less likely to put up a fight. After all, Bulgarian football has become so one-sided for the past 13 years, those lower league teams who are being jumped over may be only too happy to see it as a two-sided league for a while. If I were eg a Scottish Championship fan of Alloa Athletic, unlikely to reach the premier and even if they did they would never break the hegemony of Celtic and Rangers, I probably wouldn't complain too much if eg Newcastle United jumped the queue and joined the Scottish premiership just to give the Glasgow dominators a run for their money!

[@CTQOrigi]

The only country this makes geographic sense for is Greece, and I don’t think that would fly politically.

[@bobbybrandon584]

Just for the sake of it. You're a debt-laden, lower-mid side in one of these leagues where your reserves play in the league system and they're decently placed -- like 3rd or 4th division -- and you know that you're unlikely to ever be competitive short of someone injecting oil directly into your financial veins, and a team like Fener comes along with all of their big team money -- and assumedly, goodwill -- and makes an offer for your first division spot. Do you take it knowing you can just assume the reserve team's spot and keep going with your debts cleared? Obviously, the FA has to approve it, but let's say they do.

[@walter3030]

7:08 El Salvador mentioned... You didn't have to go to third division, Primera sucks enough!

[@connoryoung8951]

i didnt get an ad-

[@lewissthompson2005]

it is ze history of ze tottenham

[@ianbrown4411]

Welcome to the UK's new age of 'news'. We have hundreds of local and national 'newspapers', all owned by a couple of companies that are exactly the same. I am actually quite surprised that you found a genuine news story on one. Most of the time, they are reporting on something that somebody somewhere tweeted.

[@brunothefreak8826]

This could only work, If they leave the city and move as franchise like some teams in the NFL.

[@craigblunden]

Welcome to the Daily Fail. One of many British "Newspapers" who could improve the world by shutting down

[@albertoalcantara5211]

sheesh man that was some spoiler, now im in a bad mood

[@Zealandism]

I completely forgot that this wasn't an entirely separate part of the internet, my sincerest apologies I won't spoil again

[@gugga2745]

daily mail really r so dead they need 42 ads a page to break even mayb

[@davegentry7576]

Next mls expansion team

[@chazer0075]

This is the first I'm hearing about the Dutch and Belgian leagues merging, how do you even go about doing something like that?

[@marcoreus3091]

zis is ze history of ze Tottenham

[@JMThought]

The Greek leagues would make some sense but clearly that won’t happen ha