Zelda II: The Adventure of Link | First Playthrough (Pt. 1)

[@TreasureHunterLocke]

This is still one of the best title screens to any video game to me. I have so many memories just staring at that cliff, the background, the sword. Embedded into my mind forever.

[@evan1612]

Love watching Lobos play through these old classics! Always a fun time

[@dowfreak7]

The whole "spoiler" talk around 2:40:00 is exactly why I'm kinda glad I don't watch live. Because to me, that information is not a spoiler. Someone clearing up a misunderstanding about the game isn't a spoiler. It'd be like saying "you spend stamina when you roll" in a Souls game. What's worst about this isn't even that Lobos doesn't understand something. That's whatever. But the chat hivemind immediately jumping on that so they have something to condemn, therefore means that you have now successfully blocked ANY amount of speculation about anything. Someone joins the stream, sees that levelup screen and thinks to ask "yo, can you not just save up the xp for the next upgrade?" when he hasn't seen that game before in his life, would be a "spoiler" in chat's eye and get immediately chased off or just banned. Someone who wants to speculate on something the story presented, could instantly be removed as a spoiler, because now there's a precedence that anything that Lobos doesn't recognize as real, is a spoiler. All in all it's not a big deal, of course, but man, that kinda nonsense just kills the enjoyment from "chat on-screen", because it'll just be about that forever after that.

[@taylorhunt858]

It doesn't even have to to be that people outright say what isn't being understood as a mechanic. A lot of people want to figure things out for themselves, but simply saying something like "You are wrong about how leveling up works" or the tip "try hitting cancel instead" are both ways to let the player 'figure things our for themselves' without anything being spoiled in anyway for anyone. The calling of any form of help as 'spoilers' is kinda sucky in moments like this.

[@namename8004]

It's a whole witch-hunt culture against "spoilers" that Lobos has cultivated, because he thinks he can have the same experience playing a game while interacting with an audience that he could while playing offstream. He's absolutely wrong. The worst part is when mods occasionally get to just unprompted give advice that would absolutely cause the entire chat to jump any other viewer with sackbeating emotes. I mean, I can understand where he's coming from to an extent. I like to go into games blind and discover what the game has. I also don't choose to involve hundreds of people in my blind playthroughs, though. There's certainly a line that's reasonable to try keeping people from crossing. Like people would inevitably discuss story details related to endings of games, which I can totally respect trying to avoid even while streaming. It's just extremely frustrating and greatly detracts from my enjoyment of his videos. I would have definitely stopped watching a long time ago if Lobos wasn't so damn entertaining otherwise. He has a peculiar sense of humor and a good-natured attitude. Also the clutch gamer moments. Well, I actually did unsub for quite a while, but I came back...

[@MrSanghelios]

It seems completely arbitrary when something counts as backseating and when it's ok. One time someone points thing out and gets away with it and another time a mod deletes the message and replies with the !backseating command. It's an absolute mood swing with no clear line.

[@mattweber2512]

The thing about spoilers is that Lobos is trying to get the pure experience of playing, i.e. the way it would be if he were playing back in 1988. But back in 1988 we used Nintendo Power and other guides shamelessly, and also just had friends tell us things. There were a couple of things in the first Legend of Zelda that I would have never known had someone not told me, like the exact bush to burn to find level 8. I'd be surprised if there were 50 people that got through Zelda 2 back in the day completely blind.

[@xBINARYGODx]

If lobos wants that experience, he can easily have it - he streams basically work-hours most of the time and makes it clear he plays some games off-stream. If he wants to have that old-school experience (that didnt really exist), he can have it. No one forced him to play this on stream.

[@Efreeti]

The look on his face at 4:31:08 when he realizes Death Mountain is a maze XD

[@Claidheambmor]

'Bubbles that have been corrupted by Ganon' That's brilliant.

[@MrBee-qd3ri]

The comment that got me: 'You're Zelda the Green Boy. Go sword stuff'

[@vaelin9]

I've been waiting for Lobo's to play this for so long. Honestly love this game.

[@JohnnyD10055]

Lobos: "Where do all my lives go? Do some deaths count as more than 1 or something?" Also Lobos: "UNLESS YOURE A BUBBLE I DONT CARE." i know im almost a year behind, but this was still hysterical.

[@vikings_fan428badatthegame2]

Love this game and another game that’s similar to this is called Battle of Olympus you should try that too

[@drew1817]

Glad to see you playing this game. I think it fit your content very well too. Waiting for the next episode!

[@LeoxSevered]

Its surreal, watching this after years of Souls games

[@gazclarke3618]

So frustrating watching Lobos not talk to everyone in towns lol. Good shit though, love how commited he is to no spoilers.

[@dirtycasual3094]

This game brings back so many memories.

[@Claidheambmor]

OMG right in the childhood. Upon reflection the enemy attack patterns and general deviousness of this game is really great. It confused the shit out of me as a kid, definitely a game for young adults upwards rather than little 'uns.

[@goldengirl8355]

Yes!! Please replay. It’s so so much better as an adult. ❤

[@justavian]

I've never beaten this game. I've tried about ten times since 1987, and in every case i slowly lose enthusiasm over the course of 4 or 5 hours. As much as i like challenging games, it just never clicked with me. I'd rather watch you play it...

[@namename8004]

There's a difference between challenging and masochistic. NES games are pretty crap. The SNES is just objectively better and has objectively better versions of the biggest NES games. Of course, that's putting nostalgia aside. It's really the most noticeable gap between console generations. Next gen went 3D and it was probably too soon for the jump.

[@MrSanghelios]

Can't wait to be done with this so I can move on to ALTTP and start with the actually good Zelda games. Luckily I already trudged through Zelda 1 xD

[@Vamon_Kinctuarinwhe]

I love that at 5:37:00 you learn the ultimate method of violence from a person in a church.

[@LePeppino]

Holy funk, Battle Of Olympus on NES was my childhood. I only found out about Zelda II later in my life. It seemed like BoO took the Zelda II code and greatly improved on it.

[@ch33sypoofs]

Use your shield spell!! Lol great upload lobos loved this, waiting for pt 2 :D

[@FrankIsDoingThings]

way back in 1995, I'd go to my Grandmothers after school and try to beat this game before my mom came and picked me up after work. Usually around 2 and a half hours.

[@GothicXlightning]

the first Zelda i ever played and my fav from the NES era always loved the Castlevania Simon's Quest style of it 🗡🛡🏹

[@ErrorOfRutoYT]

Can confirm, best zelda game. No bias.

[@dio52]

I haven't played this since I was a kid, and I'm older than Lobos. I forgot how great the music was in this game.

[@Schattiz]

Lost count of how many times I screamed HEAL!!!

[@King_Firebrand]

This game is fun and I love it. Hope you can enjoy it aswell and look beyond the little flaws it has that get blown way out of proportion by the masses.

[@LobosjrGaming]

i found 0 flaws

[@King_Firebrand]

@@LobosjrGaming I am beyond happy to hear this. It's great that people who never played this game in the past really enjoy it, like you and BarbarousKing for example. The bad reputation it gets by many is really not deserved.

[@pious83]

@@King_Firebrand The only gripe I had with this game as a kid. I thought the sword (and it's hitbox) should have been bigger.

[@King_Firebrand]

@@pious83 That's fair. Sometimes it really feels like you should be able to hit the enemy, but game said nope.

[@MrSanghelios]

I think some enemy and level design is pretty frustrating or kinda broken. There are situations where damage is simply unavoidable and/or enemies overwhelm you and stay on your ass hitting you multiple times. Also the respawn time for enemy encounters in the overworld is way too short. Like just give me a couple fucking seconds more to let me find that one specific tile that looks like all the dozens of tiles around it without enemies spawning every 2 seconds. I have to admit though this game aged a lot better than the first one and I'm definitely having more fun with it, but damn is it exhausting.

[@zerogold8717]

♫♪ doo, doo-doo, that's a good clunk ♫♪

[@murdokdracul]

HE'S PLAYING ADVENTURE OF LINK??!?!!?!?! THE BEST NES GAME EVER?!!?!?!!?!!!!

[@SullySadface]

Damn it, now you've got me playing Zelda 2 Redux Not that the OG is bad, it's just a little rough around the edges.

[@DanielRisberg]

Hi, Chat!

[@ET-kv4ci]

Thanks lobos, great playthrough! I both love and hate this infuriating game...

[@aaronlucas2477]

Dude, your face when you realized you restarted at lvl 1 🤣

[@abberline2664]

Welcome to 8 year old me with no Internet, git gud now lobos 😂. I wonder if this prepped me for my first From soft experience in bloodborne

[@MrSanghelios]

Are you kidding this is WAY harder than Souls games xD

[@MichaelAarons1701]

How long does it take him to realize the Jump-Strike technique for Iron Knuckles?

[@Tacritania]

Please do a Battle of Olympus run next, it's similar to this

[@jonnygg6594]

Battle of Olympus is great!

[@PhazonDude]

Appreciated.

[@princedevianrosberg]

❤️❤️❤️

[@dannyknaub7740]

Definitely a souls like

[@matthunter983]

weird how so many blind players miss the shield spell

[@MrSanghelios]

What does it even do? I assume it raises defense but it never seemed to help me much.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@MrSanghelios greatly decreases how much damage you take

[@DPaintingC]

Oh man should have chosen more life for those level ups in the first dungeon! Save yourself sir!

[@naturalfear004]

Nice Video

[@possumverde]

Personally, with the poor translations of NPC conversations, somewhat experimental leveling systems, intentional design that makes things so obscure/require ridiculously random actions to discover that you need a Nintendo Power/strategy guides just to figure things out which are common in old NES games, I think allowing some more input from chat wouldn't be a bad idea. The real difficulty in the old games is usually high enough to be a good challenge. The aggravation from the artificial difficulty really just lessens the experience. This game, like Castlevania 2, suffers greatly in the translation department. When properly done, the hints etc. from NPCs, while not telling you exactly what to do, at least make it possible to figure things out on your own in a reasonable amount of time. It's one of the reasons the game didn't do so well (as far as Zelda games go) when it came to sales despite it being good otherwise.

[@IgnatzzMaus]

lollll talking to every NPC in first town except the one he actually should

[@GreatWhiteElf]

Part 2 isn't uploaded yet, dammit. Guess I'll have to watch something less fun

[@dannyknaub7740]

Don't believe me? There's elevators

[@WingmanSR]

If you explain a game mechanic to a streamer that the original game manual explains, is that backseating?

[@pious83]

If it isn't asked for, Yes.

[@WingmanSR]

@@pious83 I suppose so, but all the old NES games, etc, were incredibly cryptic in game and they put the 'tutorial' in the game manual. LoZ even had a mostly-full map included with the cartridge. As a kid, I probably wouldn't have gotten to the 2nd dungeon without it lol

[@pious83]

@@WingmanSR Yet people still finished them with or without the manual. Zelda 2 isn't something ultra obscure, like puzzles in a Point-and-Click adventure. That you couldn't brute force your way to victory. Unsolicited backseating tends to be less about helping someone than attention seeking. Unless asked for, it is never a good thing.

[@WingmanSR]

@@pious83 Eh I'm just kinda reminiscing, and curious how people felt about the amount of info that was provided with games. I'm not 'pro-backseating' lol

[@pious83]

@@WingmanSR We rented loads of NES games, back in the day. Most didn't come with manuals. The ones we owned that did, were games like Mario. Wherein the manual was flavour text and character bios. My take on this is simple: let him figure it out. We all did once upon a time. People online tend to forget that is part of the fun of older games..

[@wtfsalommy3250]

3:27:26 nuffin but my bookmark lmmfao six sugar hours gg 'okay 7

[@matthunter983]

please tell me learns the easy way to kill Iron Knuckles

[@dolaopposite]

im on this today

[@InferiorGamer]

2:54:11 Can anyone explain why the balls change color when you pause the video??

[@Quetzocotol]

They flash yellow every few frames for just one frame. It might be difficult to notice at 60 fps

[@InferiorGamer]

@@Quetzocotol Thank you

[@lserranoit]

Hey @lobosjr, do you think that it's a good idea buy a PS4 at this point? I want to play the Dark Soul and bloodborne games for PS4.

[@zackwalker2172]

I bought a ps4 in February. Was worth every penny. Ps5 is still not gonna be available to the masses for another 8-12 months.

[@natedude95]

YEEEES ITS GREAT THE GOLD CARTRIDGE HNNNG

[@Pogobro]

funny, zelda 2 is team cherryes main inspiration for hollow knight, i dont know how lobos cant see it

[@pious83]

I always thought it was Ducktales.

[@SCHAAAD]

Your armor roll on tik tok is awesome

[@adamantpanda7049]

Why am I watching this lmao

[@anthonyiodice]

So fake

[@Quetzocotol]

First the moon landing, then globe earth, and now Zelda 2. They must be stopped.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@Quetzocotol I can only guess, but the most logical thing they could mean is that they think Lobos is not really playing this the first time. And they would be correct, since he made clear he played it a little in the past and knew generally about it. But I dont know why that would lead to a "so fake" comment - so mabe he thinks Lobos's tits look fake. Which they do.

[@Chemazan]

When your stonks go down 📉 and there is nothing you can do about it: 5:16:44