Zelda Theory: Gerudo Timeline and History

The Legend of Zelda Timeline is full of magical Races and In this Theory we go over the Gerudo with Ganondorf from Skyward Sword to Breath of the Wild!
Groose, Ganondorf, Nabooru, Urbosa, Riju. Everyone is here in chronological order!
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[@commonwealthrealm]

Two Weeks in the making! Please leave a LIKE and if you are new Subscribe! Also make sure to give some love to Rwanlink who allowed us to use his amazing Ganondorf Animations! kzbin.info A big thanks goes also to MaskedGolem and Eternalegend for the thumbnail: twitter.com/maskedgolem/status/1001872762644807680

[@rickster008]

i love when you guys make videos like this, videos like this got me interested in your channel

[@LilJeezyLoC]

Sucks it got blocked

[@gyromurphy]

This was awesome... I read that post about this not getting more views.. And yeah, that sucks.. But give it time dude.. Zelda stuff has a very niche audience and this subject is even more abstract. Its off to a slow start.. But for real don't fret. You did your part, and we'll do ours by sharing this around. Let the video have time to find its audience. They're out there..and they want to see this. They just haven't yet. Keep making these and well keep watching.

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

I've played many LOZ Games over the years, but Wind Waker gives me the impression that Ganondorf was not 100% evil. His backstory revelation to Link & Tetra (Zelda) before the final battle supports that theory. What I believe is that the 2 old hags who raised him had either stole him from his birth mother or were appointed as tutors & guardians by the naive woman on her deathbed & they had their own agendas for bringing doom & destruction to Hyrule. The twinrova sisters Kuome & Kotake were skilled in the dark arts (forbidden evil magic) & taught the spells to the young prince from an early age onwards. A puppet ruler with a Jekyll & Hyde personality, hence the constant pledges & betrayals to the Hylian King.

[@retrobution1262]

Commonwealth Realm Hey, who is the narrator? I've asked this before and gotten no answer. He reminds me of the narrator for Starfox 64....could it be?

[@RRaptor86]

I definitely liked seeing that the Gerudo weren’t on Gannondorf’s side the whole time. The Gerudo are a very interesting people.

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

Yeah. When I saw the Gerudo in breath of the wild, it gave the impression that the chiefs were descended from Nabooru from Ocarina of time. Since Ganondorf's betrayed both Hyrule & his own people I reckon at some point they chucked out the whole idea of the lone male being king. If they stuck with the idea, the man who gave Link the Gerudo Girl outfit would be the ruler, I kinda had my suspicions about him (red hair & dark tanned skin, much like Ganondorf). The reason for his sneaking into the Gerudo Town would probably be to visit his all female relations.

[@henrynorcrossii3363]

@@labelledamedumanor4876 I rather thought that the Gerudo guards don't really care so long as you're dressed like a female. You can literally be thrown out for being a male, change in front of the guards, and walk right back in without being stopped.

[@kirani111]

@@henrynorcrossii3363 They're very tolerant of transgenders then, hahaha!! Imagine Link finding out that they knew he was voe, but accepted his transgender "vai" status.

[@packlesswolf1]

@@henrynorcrossii3363 that's called design flaw lol

[@henrynorcrossii3363]

@@packlesswolf1 considering that they are very aware of their surroundings to the point where you can't even sneak into Gerudo town not dressed as a female you would think that they would be more observant. However my headcanon says that it's so common for men to sneak in dressed as women that they don't really care. Especially if it's women sneaking their husbands in.

[@anibalhyrulesantihero7021]

I feel bad for Groose. In the end, he and Link became friends but Demise cursed him and his descendants.

[@novastar3990]

Red De Cipher What?

[@loyalm1312]

Furyflame2 he probably replied to someone that deleted their comment

[@order66pizzas]

@@loyalm1312 the irony

[@Pablo_Martin_aa]

@@order66pizzas indeed

[@Saf333]

I like the idea that groose tried to avoid the curse by marrying into the gerudo. Since the curse requires the right genders to be present.

[@joshuaamaron]

The cutscene where Urbosa battled the Yiga clan is so badass. Urbosa is my favourite Champion!

[@theboivenom4170]

Xx-raZ0r_pup-xX that ain’t right

[@nolanpalmer5181]

Same.

[@derisivepersona798]

@Xx-raZ0r_pup-xX More like you want her to sit on your face.

[@SterlingKnight-xq4qz]

derisive persona I sure want her to sit on my face lol

[@HeroOfTime1]

I'd like Lady Urbosa to crush my head between her thighs.

[@noheartx9992]

So this man Ganondorf had a harem of badass warior women all to himself and he was still butthurt all the time?

[@nonoctoro4933]

Ahah 😂 But they can't be independent from the Hylians or other Human Tribes, since if they tried, they would fall into the spiral of incest and die genetically... It means that they are genetically made to be thieves. 🤔 This "Goddess of Sands", or, how Navi called her in Japanese, Jashin ... She is really evil for cursing them into this existence ... What's happened to her, anyway ?

[@noheartx9992]

@@nonoctoro4933 she was a jerk who cares lol! I kinda do though...

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

I wouldn't consider him seeing the lady gerudos that way. He may be the lone man but if you paid attention to the video you would know that in order to keep the Gerudo line alive, the ladies would have had to seek out potential husbands/boyfriends/baby daddies from outside. No doubt Ganondorf & his predecessors would have had to do the same in regards to potential wives. The Gerudo are a sisterhood in every aspect. No doubt all related to each other (mothers, daughters, sisters, aunts, nieces & cousins).

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

@@nonoctoro4933 I reckon she may also be the horned statue from breath of the wild.

[@noheartx9992]

@@labelledamedumanor4876 obviously I was joking but if it's to be believed that they also had relations with Hylian males to produce children, which is presumably how he was born then that shouldn't have been too much of a problem so long as they were keeping track of lineages.

[@twip_]

8:12 hmmm... I wonder what they wrote * translates * "the Groose is loose" -_-

[@Glace1221]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) but it is

[@samuelwhipple875]

He is loose

[@somecuriosities]

Theres a Groose, loose, aboot this hoose

[@veenoir1991]

I chooooossseee.....groose

[@Jack_Jack7890]

Omg we have the same profile pic

[@heckpeanuts]

The most relatable npcs are the dudes tryna get some outside Gerudo town

[@neolord1215]

@@thatonedude9269Yeah Boo- HOL UP NIGGA! 12!?

[@Robert-tl2vg]

Neolord 12 idiot

[@Maukiki]

What

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Indeed

[@rico._5067]

those child gannondorf animations scare me

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

I know, creepy. But I kinda wish they revealed a bit more on the background. Like who his parents were. All we know is that he was raised by the 2 witches, but i'm not convinced they were blood related to him, unless 1 was a grandmother or great grandmother & the other a great aunt or both were great aunts. My other theory regarding parentage is that Ganondorf's birth mother had an affair with a member of the Hylian King's Court (a high ranking noble), she either died in childbirth or twinrova murdered her & stole her son after he was born.

[@Yukon_83]

He was ugly asf for as child

[@ichangedidk9097]

Well, at least the creator of the child Ganondorf model tried, even if he looks pretty bad. And it's not like the two witches and the other Gerudo women look any better either (the fan models, not the canon models)

[@Julia.Taunton-Clark99]

Ganondorf

[@hidden_animator522]

Honestly the Gerudo have always been my favorite Zelda race. Their designs are super interesting and their history is super interesting.

[@Akyure]

Ridley369 fr

[@eusebeguts6775]

They ugly af

[@lynel7406]

I like the gerudo too! They’re kinda interesting...

[@TheKakTheMonour]

@@eusebeguts6775 leave the man be happy dumb**s

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

It's the sheikah for me, but gerudo are also very interesting

[@prince_nocturne]

Urbosa has a great line at one point, I believe when you free her spirit, where she comments that Ganon was once 'in the guise of a Gerudo' long before, a source of great shame and anger for her at the time. It was another driving factor for her to aid the royal family of Hyrule and Link in destroying Ganon. Loved that little touch. Like, it doesn't state it, but it definitely really implies that the Gerudo of the latest era are the descendants of Nabooru's tribe more than any other.

[@arrowsaurus7561]

Yeah I wondered if anyone noticed that

[@Gregcam_1]

Yeah, when I captured that Divine Beast that line stuck with me. I also like how the Gerudo warriors tried to get Link to join their ranks, but Riju declined because of Link's quest. I wouldn't mind joining their ranks

[@kandy1643]

“To turn them pregnant” lmaooo the way that was worded is so weird

[@pokelover7497]

You think they would learn not to name them ganondorf

[@StrawberryMilk]

Seriously, i get zelda. But ganondorf is notoriously evil- why would they do that if they look back on it as the dark times for the gerudo???

[@hanamizuno0625]

@@StrawberryMilk could be an ancient king we do not know about though i don't get why after oot they would ever do that again

[@Gurren961]

Why not just instantly murder any male Gerudo born after OOT Ganondorf? It just seems logical NOT to test the gods

[@azadalamiq]

@@Gurren961 male is born once every 300 years, gannondorf was the last male born, and thy hold him with contempt.

[@novastar3990]

TheRealBandito I was about to say the same thing

[@bmac2814]

Awesome voice from the narrator. Made Zelda feel like a history channel documentary lol.

[@nowonmetube]

Ikr, Zelda is one of his projects you can hire him for!

[@billystrife7049]

He sounds like the Storyteller from the Fallout lore series.

[@nathanjessee4957]

Sure the voice was nice, but there was no feeling behind anything he was saying. I started to wonder if I was listening to a very sophisticated text to speech engine. The script was great, but next time, please get an actor instead of someone who just has a nice voice.

[@Xxsnipedawg72xX]

@@nathanjessee4957 whaaaaa...... Do you even know who the narrator is?

[@yveltalsea]

Nathan Jessee it was TTS, you can hear the robotic parts

[@heimtak1479]

link should have said "No you" back to demise so the cruse will not take effect heh

[@hanburgundy4317]

He tried, but all that came out of his mouth was, "SEEYAAAAATTT!!!!"

[@colliflower3565]

Link should have wished for an uno reverse card

[@wowza.btch__2267]

i lol’d

[@marche800]

But he can't talk.

[@2nii2]

Would've been great but they dont have uno

[@draupnirleague3655]

a Hylian male was probably like "Help a Gerudo stole my virginity"

[@whatgsaid]

Wind Waker Ganon = Best Ganon. Sympathetic villain alert, CODE RED 🚨

[@nonoctoro4933]

And best Ganondorf

[@floppydysk]

I coveted that wind, I suppose

[@jbark678]

True

[@sethjansson5652]

I personally found Twilight Ganondorf to be the most enjoyable imo.

[@beauTys696traGedy]

@@floppydysk right in the feels

[@lolli_popples]

"After all, she would need a man in her life to continue the royal line." I do not know why, but this made me crack up.

[@littlee602]

Yeah me too xD

[@Rogun987]

I didn't know the guy from Prager U knew so much about the history of Hyrule.

[@Boypomelo]

Lol nice

[@RUINOUSDOLL]

blessed alternate timeline where prager u is a lore/worldbuilding focused channel and not yankee propaganda

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

I've played many LOZ Games over the years, but Wind Waker gives me the impression that Ganondorf was not 100% evil. His backstory revelation to Link & Tetra (Zelda) before the final battle supports that theory. What I believe is that the 2 old hags who raised him had either stole him from his birth mother or were appointed as tutors & guardians by the naive woman on her deathbed & they had their own agendas for bringing doom & destruction to Hyrule. The twinrova sisters Kuome & Kotake were skilled in the dark arts (forbidden evil magic) & taught the spells to the young prince from an early age onwards. A puppet ruler with a Jekyll & Hyde personality, hence the constant pledges & betrayals to the Hylian King.

[@mizuzu21]

WW ganondorf really wasn't 100% evil when you consider he seemed to have a personal code against killing kids.

[@wolfiemuse]

I think being 100% evil and just having a decent motivation for being 100% evil are basically the same. Regardless of if he had motivation behind it or not; he’s an incarnation of hatred, of Demise’s fury. Regardless of if he didn’t kill Link or children while they were helpless- that could just show that he’s so egotistical and confident that he thinks he doesn’t NEED to kill them to achieve his goal. I think his desire for control and power are so deeply rooted that there is no turning back for him. Even if he was ALMOST able to forgive Link and Zelda for causing him thousands of years of agony, loneliness, etc, I think his demonic hatred from Demise wouldn’t let that happen. He might have some “good” mood swings, but ultimately, he’s going to want total control, and his jealousy of the Golden Goddesses favoring the Hero will cause him to strike against Link time and time again.

[@gravytube4099]

After he won in the Adult timeline and everything got flooded he humbled more than where he either loses or kills link, this Ganondorf has tasted victory and had it taken away and isnt so hellbent as the twilight princess version

[@andyknightwarden9746]

TP Ganondorf is strongest Ganondorf by far. 5 phases, only one of which auto-fails, because you're not playing as Midna. Puppet Zelda, Beast Ganon, Knight Fight, and finally the Climactic Duel, and even then, he dies STANDING UP. Bad. Ass.

[@Elessar0wind]

huh, and if the theories are correct he'll be back in Botw2, being sealed through that same wound he received in TP for the past millennia which would mean he never actually died!

[@kjn3350]

The only reason WW Ganondorf fought was because he didn't want to die or be defeated. He didn't want to kill anyone or do any harm and certainly wanted something better than the King of WW Hyrule. I mean. He was smarter/more cunning, but less of a fighter.

[@blacksteelqc1972]

that's actually 4 phases...

[@andyknightwarden9746]

@@blacksteelqc1972 4 playable phases. Note that we never fought the floating head.

[@andyknightwarden9746]

@@kjn3350 I figured he had refined his reasoning, but was still as much of a ruthless, power-hungry bastard as ever.

[@Felipebrbrbrbr]

Something I never understood about Zelda lore. If Zelda is the reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia, then what goddess speaks to us in the statues of Breath of the Wild?

[@dannyg4835]

Hylia's... Spirit? Good question

[@ANite-vx1vk]

Maybe it's a spark of her divine power? Like, she specifically left a small part of her behind to make sure they would have a guiding voice along with her in a mortal form.

[@pupulauls]

Nintendo: Good Question.

[@maxbaker7841]

Zelda can speak to Link no matter where he is in Hyrule. That's what that voice is in the hundred years before Link woke up. Zelda giving solace to her people.

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

I think the statues are made from the same stuff as the Sheikah Stones from Ocarina of time / Majora's Mask & the magic pendants Link & Tetra owned in Wind Waker. It wouldn't surprise me if Zelda was going incognito via these statues.

[@RwanLink]

Wow huge amount of work here ! Good job ! Thank you for using my Ganondorf animations !! ;)

[@duke0salt717]

No problem

[@commonwealthrealm]

RwanLink And Thank you you so much for the permission!

[@silverrain530]

I was looking for this comment. I noticed them immediately. They are so well done!

[@rodrigroudon1872]

RwanLink I can’t find some of them in your ganondorf series

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

Nice.Love the theory...

[@fuzzyeggy]

You think the crossdressing guy in botw is the male gerudo of that generation? That would be great lmao

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

I had the same idea there. Another thought I had was that at some point in time, the Gerudo scrapped the idea of the lone male being King on account of Ganondorf's betrayal of not just Hyrule, but also of whatever code of conduct the Gerudo tribe followed. I also believe that the 2 Twinrova witches influenced him here on that.

[@SixHolyStrings]

@@labelledamedumanor4876 what about the guy watching the sandstorm at oasis... hes pretty clearly gerudo...

[@beauTys696traGedy]

@@SixHolyStrings I just looked it up, his name is Nobiro & it says he's Hylian, idk

[@dexterpulles6751]

When the dudes mask comes up from the wind you can see that his mouth area is white, he dyed his skin or maybe covered himself in paint to appear gerudo, really hes just some weirdo lol

[@novastar3990]

Dexter Pulles I think that was his beard

[@cruxxxify29]

"Limited to theft and sex"

[@grapeyv]

CRaZeD FlAme 9000 just like my mom

[@Ch-ew9tm]

They probably had sex slaves if they were an entire thief society

[@swiggityswo9558]

@@grapeyv oof

[@christfa66]

PLSSSSS

[@ASquared544]

You know, a nice side (and maybe canon) Zelda game would be about playing as another male Geurudo. This would take place after BotW, and people would treat this character with venom, ostrazisation, and cruelty, due to the reputation of male Geurudo. However, this male Geurudo would not let this treatment get to him, and he would go on a quest to try and redeem the name of the male Geurudo.

[@nolanpalmer5181]

That's an amazing idea. I'd love to see a Zelda game not centered around link/hylians.

[@fuzzyeggy]

No no. I want to see the story of the male gerudo in botw. The drag queen and his attempts to live his life away from the whole role of his race

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

ASquared. Brilliant idea there. Not only what you suggested there was fab, why not make our male Gerudo hero fight against Ganondorf's ghost as the final boss? The idea being Link has either been killed or injured too badly to continue his mission & our new Gerudo Prince takes over the role as he is the only witness to the incident.

[@notatroll7128]

@@fuzzyeggy I think having a drag main protagonist the already exists is redundant. Just use Gerudo clothing.

[@deathsnoble3975]

Very Naruto-like

[@facemonkeys]

This week on, "How It's Made"

[@Isabella-BendyStraw]

Wow I can’t believe I watched this entire thing

[@CtheDead209-zt8tj]

me nietheras its dead wrong its been confirmed groose is the first king of hyrule and his descendant built hyrule castle town.

[@alibolink0719]

@@CtheDead209-zt8tj When was this confirmed

[@juliaklaavo9286]

As someone who loves Gerudos a lot, I'm thankful you made this

[@saraross8396]

Groose as the ancestor of the Gerudo is somewhat plausible. A special connection to the Sheikah however is a bit doubtful considering that the Gerudo symbol is seen on every button and block, not just in the Shadow Temple. (The new symbol is supposed to be a bird, not a dragonfly by the way.) The sages we see before completing the temples are very much alive, not to mention that we see all of them alive outside of the Temple of Light. My theory is that they were not killed but held in a state similar to the one we later see Zelda in. There was no Gerudo-Hylian War. I don't know why people believe this theory. It is only said that "relations between Gerudo Village and Hyrule had become friendly once more" (Hyrule Historia pg. 119). Nothing is mentioned about a war in either the games or books, nor is there anything about the cause or resolution of the conflict. At best there was a strained relationship that was most likely due to Ganondorf. It is unlikely that the entirety of the tribe supported him once they found out what he was up to as they do not take kindly to rule breaking or betrayal. Even as thieves they had their boundaries when it came to robbing people as evidenced by Nabooru being concerned that Ganondorf had killed people. Aside form these points it was good.

[@MikePhantom]

you are talking to people that think they present facts mate

[@gyromurphy]

I honestly thought he was going to be ganon when I first played skyward sword... Like.. The evil in the ground would posses him

[@estellala5781]

@@MikePhantom its just a theory ... my lord.

[@MikePhantom]

@@estellala5781 commenwealth is guilty of declaring thing that ARE stated clearly the opposite way or entirely differently often enough.

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

Here's another theory, the man who gives Link the Gerudo disguise is ALSO A GERUDO! At some point in time the Gerudo tribe scrapped the idea of having the lone male as king because of Ganondorf's betrayal. The Female Chiefs are descendants of Nabooru, if they didn't scrap the idea, the sneaky cross dresser would have been the Gerudo King.

[@Osiris2994]

Huh, this makes you wonder why there hasn't been a Zelda game with a Gerudo protagonist yet

[@rayoup11]

Would be awesome. Or maybe an hylian link raised by the gerudo for some reason. Like the hero of time rised by the kokiris.

[@Tosmasta00]

And Ganondorf his childhood rival. Only to then see his rival succumb to Demise's curse and thus having to fight his rival one last time.

[@Osiris2994]

@@Tosmasta00 Someone get @MajorLink. There is a plot to be had

[@N_DS]

I can already imagine the possibilities from that!

[@N_DS]

@@Tosmasta00 Or we have a plot twist with Gerudo twins. Where instead of the originally intended Ganondorf becoming... Ganondorf, it's his brother!

[@Ninjaananas]

The Zelda universe makes the games title justice. It is legendary. And the video is really well done. You guys showed real competence and I am looking forward for the next videos.

[@CtheDead209-zt8tj]

90 per ent of this video is wrong lol windwaker isn't in the downfall timeline its in the time line where adult link kills gannon...

[@Ninjaananas]

@@CtheDead209-zt8tj Prove it then. And where did they say that WW was in the downfall timeline? CWR has proven often enough to know the Zelda timeline. Also, it is spelled Ganon, not Gannon anymore and he was not killed in OoT.

[@warrenvanderveer4860]

I love how the narrator sounds just like the guy who did the intro to StarFox64.

[@alisabosconovitch558]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD same feeling here

[@SophiejuDrawing]

Congratulations , it's pretty unusual for me to watch 45 minutes straight of a video, but this one is sooo good !

[@jeffpauljunior2163]

Ikr like it had my attention from start to finish not one pause

[@mario_maniac9368]

Glad to see another time line video you guys make the best one

[@ohitshilary]

AMAZINGLY DONE. Thank you for such a wonderful video! This is the sort of lore-exploration that I've been looking for :)

[@migwel7393]

Imagine coming back to life just to build a bridge for link

[@maryblizzard5267]

urbosa is such a baddie 😤 i’m in love

[@fintanward8785]

Great video as always

[@jbark678]

Wasn't the Barkeeper in Twilight Princess a Gerudo? I thought they just went into hiding.

[@KitKat_293]

I thought so too! Or a child of a gerudo who married a hylian man and wanted to live castle town. I always wondered if Malons mother was a Gerudo. I just think her dad seems like the type who would hang around the fortress hoping to hook up with a cute gerudo girl, lmao much like those carpenter dudes. And it just seemed like a cool backstory for Malon.

[@DarthSanguine]

@@KitKat_293 The child of a Gerudo is always a Gerudo. Their genes are aggressively dominant - which is why they don't go extinct from being a mostly female only race.

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

She was more likely a Sheikah. Same goes for the Shaman in Kakariko Village.

[@tationotaliaferro8418]

The Gerudo always were my favorite Zelda race. I’m glad Nintendo dropped the idea of a male gerudo ruling over the females after OoT and let the females rule the females

[@anirudhkataru4336]

Does this make any sense

[@shelbyinmon8654]

I mean if most the males that came out of my race were literally genocidal maniacs I wouldn't want them to rule over me

[@Benjamin-dd9gg]

Can you do a "What if Ganondorf didn't become Demise's reincarnation"?

[@nullpoint3346]

He'd probably still bare the hatred of Demise, but he'd be less likely to indulge in it.

[@Akyure]

Technically Ganondorf is the incarnation of Demise’s hatred rather than a REincarnation of Demise. In order for Ganondorf to not be evil, Demise would have not had hatred, which means either Link would’ve lost or Demise was sealed forever and Ghirahim truly lost.

[@SixWingZombi]

Power, guided by Wisdom, becomes a staunch ally for, and the backbone of, Courage.

[@kamikazemind327]

This was so well done! Every Zelda fan should be subscribed to this channel!

[@JonathanMillerMusic]

You guys did a great job! I bet this took a lot of work! Very captivating :)

[@ASquared544]

Random thought, but it would be cool to see a fight between the strongest non-boss enemies in Zelda: Darknuts, Iron Knuckles, Lynels, and Phantoms.

[@albertog747]

Amazing video guys!! Hope we get Ganondorf next Zelda game. I like his human form more.

[@LunaP1]

Yes, that sounds good.

[@lore_nza]

you are definitely going to get it in the next game.......

[@albertog747]

@@lore_nza haha yes!!! I'm happy about it

[@melaniedavenport4869]

Thanks so much for this. I have found the other timeline videos hard to follow. But this really helped with the added visualization.

[@blakeneal7205]

Other have said it, but this truly captivating. You make this feel like real history! Well done! This content earned my subscription. Keep up the good work!

[@datbruh8469]

The diverse and rich history of some tribe inside the game shows how detailed of a timeline Zelda has

[@jesterfairy3845]

I wouldn't really say that. A good chunk of this video is speculation and borders on fanfic territory (not that that's a bad thing)

[@ianhall7513]

got to 2:23 and was like NOOO I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF PLAYING THROUGH THE GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! Furthest I ever got when it came out was the first flame...

[@ScottBonito]

Always impressed by the time and effort put into these theories. Well done!

[@fabdav333]

This was so incredibly well done, loved the video man!

[@dannyman5751]

Tbh, Ganondorf had a good idea because the Hylians were not helping the Gerudo and forcing them into proverty, but he just went too far. I think that the Gerudo turning good again was a good change, and I would love to see a game where we see the view point of the Gerudo, because the Hylains were also pretty bad along with Ganondorf.

[@ChibiProwl]

Yep. Look at the Shadow Temple and its history.

[@LoinkLoink]

You forget to mention how the Gerudo were in Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. Aside from that, great video!

[@JusBlaze1028]

This was an AWESOME explanation video of the Gerudo!

[@mysryuza]

I literally squealed in excitement when I saw the thumbnail and title and haven't clicked so fast in a while! The Timeline series couldn't be complete without this in the collection! One of the voices sounded like a fusion of Zeltik and Macintyre XD Honestly, Urbosa is one of the most badass Gerudo Warriors ever, if not the most and best.

[@anthonyi2482]

OMG the Storyteller. i loved your work with shoddy cast so much.

[@daethwing188]

I had to make sure I wasn't crazy and came looking for this comment.

[@sifouookami1129]

Finally . Love it Good Job Konrad

[@PoopyHead78902]

I love coming back to these well made videos

[@TWsBooksorcation]

is it just me or was urabosa's finishing move just so god damn badass?

[@lukemackinnon5894]

I love the theory that Groose seeded the Gerudo.. It makes sense too, given the team's love for linguistic puns..

[@SophiejuDrawing]

Thanks for this video, I'll follow you for more :)

[@KookShanty]

Great video! There was a lot of clear effort gone into this

[@wakewind4129]

What a great video. Even a year later, it’s very evident that You guys put a lot of effort and elbow grease into analyzing Zelda lore (even when the lore itself is arbitrary & obscure) and did your best to make sense of it, and compiled it into a very detailed and comprehensive narrative line. What a great treat to hardcore Zelda fans. Great Job! 👍

[@HirokazuTakeda]

As a side note, I will never understand why people say names and or words incorrectly when creators state how to say it.

[@dianamnajarro5119]

@Raegar Buchanan one of the narrators kept saying it wrong. It's painful to hear, plus quite obvious if you know the correct pronunciation. I figured it was his accent as he says it wrong in every video that mention them.

[@makerochild6112]

The "yeegah" clan, even though in the game its clearly pronounced 'youga'. That narrator is seriously bad at his job

[@nowonmetube]

@@makerochild6112 Wrong. Yuga? Where the fuck did you get that from? Everyone says Yiga, and it's obvious that it's called like that. Also here's proof: _The Yiga (pronounced /ˈjiː.ɡə/ YEE-ghə)_ zelda.gamepedia.com/Yiga Yuga is the villain of A Link Between Worlds!!!

[@Abionx]

​@@makerochild6112yeegah is the correct way to pronounce yiga. Idk were you got youga from out of the word yiga (also the word is a Japanese word and Japanese words are in sets of 2 or 3 letters always, so yi and ga, which is yet and gah when pronounced)

[@Kodiak_P]

I am very interested in how The Male Gerudo in the BOTW2 trailer will fit in. It appears that he was the Knight from Kass' song and the fans believe he is Ganondorf(#HydrateGanondorf)

[@nowonmetube]

Or there won't be one

[@r2dlee953]

I honestly think its an old body of Ganondorfs somehow dont ask me how I just got a feeling

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

Well, whatever the case, if Ganondorf was the last Gerudo King, it would not have prevented male gerudo from being born. What I would suggest is that any voes born to Gerudo mothers were given up for adoption or sent to non-gerudo relatives to be fostered. As far as Ganondorf himself is concerned, he'd be the Imhotep of Hyrule, going by what we see in the BOTW2 advert of course.

[@faeriecrypt]

Outstanding video! I am eager to watch more!

[@dragonlover1788]

This was epic my fav video. The groose being a descendant was a cool theory never looked at it like that

[@facepwnagewtf]

Very informative video Commonwealth I love the details this videos highlights which eludes to the larger events occurring across the Zelda timeline. Having seen this i would love to see Nintendo create a Zelda game that takes place in the middle of one of these conflicts between nations. Having Link play an active role in solving national crisis and forging alliances between different races and societies. In order to combat a greater evil plaguing the land.

[@elcalich33sehead]

I think the Gerudo resettled in the Realm of the Ocean King in the Adult Timeline. There are many women with brown skin and red hair, including Jolene. In fact, she fights with a scimitar and uses similar fighting styles. There’s only one man who has the Gerudo features in Phantom Hourglass, Zauz. He looks like Ganondorf, with the same nose and facial hair. Coincidentally, he helps Link forge the Phantom Sword.

[@tatsusama3192]

I. Love. Lore! This was an awesome video. I now have to binge watch your others😂

[@GoldenMushroom64]

Amazing work loved every second

[@henrynorcrossii3363]

With how many versions of Ganondorf look like many of the Kings of Hyrule I wouldn't be surprised if he was really an illegitimate Prince of Hyrule. So that he would possibly have a legitimate claim to the thrown of Hyrule. Gondo, at the scrap shop, also wears the later symbol of the Gerudo.

[@FishBoneD14]

Henry Norcross II Why not? Some Hylian prince probably went on a trip and met a gerudo lady doing what gerudo ladies do.

[@jinx1987]

Windwaker Ganondorf sounds like a misunderstood villain, that he actually felt responsible for the destruction of his people and land.

[@rainnghell3683]

Glad i found this channel. Cant wait for more

[@whiskeyreaper865]

Really good I appreciate the work put into this I love it

[@kotornerd12]

So the Storyteller jumped to the Zelda universe hmm? I approve.

[@Anu_Sol]

Yes! Commonwealth Realm back to doing what they do best.

[@trishgriffith1866]

I absolutely loved these theories that you made well done it just makes my heart want more Zelda I have and I played them all and I need more awesome work thank you

[@cyberfaunix6920]

Why is Skyward Sword link so much more emotional? XD He has such amazing facial expressions

[@starvinmartinamg]

So it's not Ganondorf fault that he's evil he just has a curse on him PS I've always liked Ganondorf always wanted a Link and Zelda and him to form a superhero kicking team Ganondorf the king of all dark magic and the protector of it

[@heathert5455]

You might be interested in the web comic "A tale of two rulers." You can find some KZbin voiceovers of certain parts of the comic or you could Google search it and get the whole comic, there are currently 189 chapters of it...IF I remember right.

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

Lagmen23. I sometimes thought that too. If anyone was to blame for Ganondorf being 'evil', it would be the 2 old witches who raised him from boyhood onwards. In Ocarina of Time, Navi's commentary referred to both of them as surrogate mothers. So.... who were his REAL parents?

[@starvinmartinamg]

@@labelledamedumanor4876 maybe both of the witches at the same time maybe they was fused together when they was you know

[@labelledamedumanor4876]

@@starvinmartinamg . I'm afraid I must disagree. In Ocarina of Time, Navi's description of both witches refer to them as 'Surrogate Mother'. They were Ganondorf's nannies (Royal Households would employ wet - nurses to raise their children, no doubt that the Gerudo would raise their young prince in this manner too).

[@starvinmartinamg]

@@labelledamedumanor4876 oh okay

[@fartz3808]

6:50 You should've mentioned there's a third human race beside Hylians and Gerudo, and that's the Sheikah.

[@julietteelton8406]

I think there's also just normal humans too I think

[@fartz3808]

@@julietteelton8406 The closest thing to normal humans are Hylians and they have long pointy-elf-like ears. Don't know if there's such a thing as 'normal human' in the Zelda universe.

[@julietteelton8406]

F Artz I always thought the people in Twilight Princess in Ordon village were normal humans

[@fartz3808]

@@julietteelton8406 You may be right

[@peppuhroni]

There’s also the Kokiri before they evolved into Koroks, lol

[@zeldaenjoyer3103]

Awesome jobs guys! Enjoyed the video

[@cielopachirisu929]

I am so happy to see you use all these Hyrule Total War clips

[@jamesmciver2162]

I feel like Groose with his change of heart wouldn't turn on the lands and friends he has or fit the future characteristics of the Gerudo with the traits that they have. Maybe the Gerudo were already on the surface in Skyward sword timeline,after all Impa was on the surface waiting for Zelda and Link.

[@nonoctoro4933]

They are round eared and thus unrelated to Skyloftians. They are depicted as Nomads to, maybe they established themself sometimes after Skyward Sword.

[@jamesmciver2162]

@@nonoctoro4933 Another good reason.

[@johnjcoe9198]

I really would like, not a remake, but a "reimagining" of OoT, with the cut content, like the Ice Dungeon, restored. And a better realized Hyrule, more in the vein of BotW, but without all the apocalyptic aftermath, obviously. Maybe Nintendo could just set it further into the timeline, after Hyrule has been rebuilt. It could show the cyclic nature of Hyrule and Demise's Curse. Many story threads would be changed, obviously, like the reveal of Sheik's identity. Instead, have a different character guide Link. But also, restore the properties that the Medallions were originally intended to have, plus implementing a dungeon (or more approprietly, a shrine) in the Temple of Time, in order to prove Link's worth before obtaining the Master Sword. The same could be said for WW, to be honest. There was SO MUCH cut from the game that it warrants a second attempt. Originally, the whole kingdom of Hyrule was supposed to be trapped under the waves, not just the small part we got to see in the orginal game. The quest for the pieces of the Triforce of Wisdom was originally much more involved, not combing for Triforce Charts, as in the final game. Lord Jabun wasn't supposed to be hidden on Outset Island, either. I think its worth a second attempt.

[@elizagevorgyan3155]

*Fat agree*

[@TungstenViper]

Wait for BOTW2

[@Slemmet]

This video is really well made. Don’t think about the views, they will start comming later. Unlike other videos this type of videos still gets more views than normal videos after time passes.

[@SophiejuDrawing]

Awesome video !!

[@ZombieLeo94]

This is so complicated Why were the Zoras and Gorons in war? And i thought that Sheikha sage was Impa

[@classicspeeder]

I keep Forgeting that this is just about Gerudos

[@captainskidz488]

This was very informative👍

[@brosephchillaxatron5440]

It just clicked. The other day when i was playing Breath of the Wild I was wondering why you could mine rock salt even high up on Hebra and Death Mountain. Because the whole world was flooded. The ocean water reached high onto those mountains and deposited salt. All the details in the series is just amazing.

[@shigerumiyamoto9612]

Daddy shiggy is proud someone like you made an complicated timeline for characters i made up just wanting strong waifus in the game. Amazing work to you Commonwealth realm.

[@emrikthingelstad9013]

Love the channel😍

[@rickyfajardo7351]

I started playing BOTW and I was always fascinated with the gerudos and you talking about their history made me see a lot of unanswered questions thank you

[@retrogamermax8287]

This is the best gaming documentary I have ever seen.

[@LittleAl016]

21:27, given the existence of the Oracle of Seasons, Din, who is one individual living in Holodrum that bears a strong resemblance to the Gerudo, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the Gerudo migrated from Hyrule in the Downfall Timeline. It's also equally likely that some of the descendants of the Gerudo in the Downfall Timeline remained in Hyrule, and eventually lost all visible trace of being Gerudo via bloodline dilution.

[@ziegfeld4131]

Not possible when a gerudo female has a child its always gerudo bc of thier aggressive genes

[@LittleAl016]

@@ziegfeld4131 Citation needed.

[@koolaidflavas8701]

the next Zelda game should take place between MM and TP, after link gets back from saving termina. the game title should be called Legend of Zelda:Hero of Time

[@emper1on]

There is already a hero of time its oos link

[@jharris3110]

@@emper1on Yeah but he shows up as the Hero's Shade in Twilight Princess. So, what they mean is they want a game about what happened to OOT Link between MM and TP.

[@jonathanmilligan1397]

I've missed these kinds of video's from you guys.

[@commonwealthrealm]

We can only make them a few times in the year. Because they are super expensive to make (we lose money more often that not on them) and take several weeks to put together. With KZbin that doesn't works.

[@drewc3571]

Nice narrative! And interesting way to tie the games together. Love the theory