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MHWI | Axe-Focused SA vs Fatalis (ENG sub commentary)

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ZenCieh

ZenCieh

Күн бұрын

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@ZenCieh
@ZenCieh 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry there's a big mistake in the English set screenshot at the first of the video! Here's a correct version of it. (Armor is the same) Critical Eye 7 Agitator 7 Evade Window 5 *Maximum Might 5* Stun Resistance 3 Attack Boost 3 Critical Boost 3 Weakness Exploit 3 Power Prolonger 3 *Constitution 3* *Evade Extender 2* *Devine Blessing 2* *Handicraft 1* Partbreaker 1 Coalescence 1
@Rathadude
@Rathadude 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused at first when I saw only a max might 3. Thanks for the correction.
@ug_g0d1ike37
@ug_g0d1ike37 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what are the arnmour peices?
@kantanathemtanon9007
@kantanathemtanon9007 3 жыл бұрын
@@ug_g0d1ike37 all fatalis except escadora armguard
@alexandreandrade5365
@alexandreandrade5365 3 жыл бұрын
5:12 Never "abandon quest" if you want the materials. Do "return from quest" instead.
@ZenCieh
@ZenCieh 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah that's right, thanks for the correction!
@user-lb7qm4yf4h
@user-lb7qm4yf4h 2 жыл бұрын
機動力の斧とラッシュの剣という基本のコンセプトが良く表れていて素晴らしい立ち回りだと思います!
@gamingmoro3662
@gamingmoro3662 3 жыл бұрын
A true hunter, respect! You truly understands your weapon and your enemy. This is how """switch""" axe should be played.
@fnyan4883
@fnyan4883 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how it should be played That's how you wish to play It is also one of the strength of MHW where you can play in multiple ways with the same weapon
@asibi295
@asibi295 3 жыл бұрын
ミラの頭にパンパンする為にスラアクを初めて作り邪眼を掘ってますが、 整備5付けてても装衣が溶けてる時間って当然あるんですよね。 その時フワっとした知識で斧振ってた自分にとっても ミラ相手に斧はこう使うと教えてくれるこの動画はありがたいですね。
@ch-jv6vb
@ch-jv6vb 3 жыл бұрын
8:31 このシーンが1番好きです 2回連続顎ぱっかーん
@jackrowe62
@jackrowe62 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a guide that gets it. There was so many unga bunga spam zsd guides, it took me forever to figure out axe mode was the way to go to get evil eyes. Plus specific positioning and punish tips, with english and japanese sub? You've earned my sub and like, great work 👍 いいガイドを作って、本当にありがとう。
@user-ws4mv9nv8s
@user-ws4mv9nv8s 3 жыл бұрын
早いのもそうだけど立ち回り美しすぎて惚れた 斧主体、その長めのリーチとステップ、後退斬りとか上手い人ほんとに憧れる 0:50の突進横から殴ってるの美しすぎる
@accelerat3447
@accelerat3447 3 жыл бұрын
Instantly subscribed. I'm happy that someone can actually show axe form is also very useful to break fatalis head. Ever since they figured out the ZSD spam, people have been judging SA as a cheese weapon when in reality, it still needs skills to use, and you can still die easily even when ZSD spamming. Thank you for showing that Switch Axe is more than just spamming ZSD, both of its forms are really fun, it's stylish and have a great learning curve to practice positioning and being aggressive at the same time.
@chamito6668
@chamito6668 3 жыл бұрын
I really love when players actually try playing and learn the attack pattern to deal with the monster, not just spamming, don't get me wrong, it has the merit just to kill it by any means, but it's funnier to feel like you are not in control all the time.
@keretaman
@keretaman 13 күн бұрын
Excellent video. I love how you add the correction clip right after a negative example!
@user-ru5pw5bz8i
@user-ru5pw5bz8i 3 жыл бұрын
6:48〜 この動き、上手いなぁ〜〜と思わず声が出てしまいました。 今まで見たスラアクを使ったミラボレアス討伐動画の中で間違いなく一番素晴らしいと思いました。 パンパンゼミと揶揄され、甘えや逃げだとスラアクが貶されて、ミラが出てから幾分か経ちましたがスラアク使いとしていまだに辛い思いをしています。 この動画に会えて救われました。ありがとうございます。 概要欄を見て、タイトルとは確かに反するかもしれませんが、スラアクの戦い方としてはむしろ理想だと思っています。 せっかくロマン溢れる変形武器なのですから、これをきっかけに使い始めた人には斧も剣も楽しく使っていただきたいです。
@Vazio3
@Vazio3 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the fastest solo head break guide I've seen yet. And I think it's even easier than Frosftcraft GS since SA has so much mobility in Axe mode, and has an easier time punishing Fatalis head too (although they do hit in the same openings, SA has lower commitment and higher range).
@aswqe338
@aswqe338 3 жыл бұрын
One point to add on: For the cone breath, e.g. 10:52, if you have amp state or close to amp state, you may go for a double strike before using ZSD (triangle -> circle -> triangle + circle). It is sure that you have enough time since the cast time of ZSD after circle attacks from sword mode is lower.
@ashgarnetRES
@ashgarnetRES 3 жыл бұрын
自分の立ち回りと比べると斬り下がりの使い方と攻撃の止め時が滅茶苦茶しっかりしてて勉強になります。 部位破壊には向かないとされる零距離の詳細なひるみ値と第3形態の回転ブレスの避け方は初めて知りましたw
@WoodDoge
@WoodDoge 3 жыл бұрын
"Got the first head break here. It's pretty fast, isn't it?" Ngl, I read that in the most anime villain voice ever.
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who gets it. ZSD's partbreak modifier is god awful, overall if you clutch and do a full zsd it's about a 0.430x partbreak ratio on average for the damage you deal. If you do less, dependent on how fast you drop your ratio gets higher. a 1 tick ZSD has about 0.526, while a 12 tick cancelled ZSD has 0. 301 10-11 tick ZSDs are the most practical for dps&safety. Even with mantlez, full ZSD can die to cone rng when you drop off. Meanwhile, power axe mode has 1.3x modifier and you can bait out cones all day while needing to do only 1/3rd the dmg of full ZSD for each headbreak. Sword mode is still good because despite not having the same partbreak boost, you just do more damage in general. Plus Fatalis' good openings are pretty long so you can comfortably switch between sword and axe mode for dps and dodging. ZSD spam is overrated. It's just one of many tools the switchaxe has and I hate how dominant it is in terms of people's perception of the weapon. Especially with fatalis' new gear you can basically braindead spam ZSD on almost all monster's heads with high mantle uptime and divine blessing.
@ammarh2900
@ammarh2900 3 жыл бұрын
ZSD is the most braindead thing I hate how others play switch axe like that , I am on ps4 and every time there’s someone with SA in the quest then he must be spamming ZSD...I’m glad that there’s people like u who understand’s this weapon and give it what it deserves
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 3 жыл бұрын
@@ammarh2900 I've done my fair share of ZSD spam, too. But the weapon is more. And it annoys me when people clutch + zsd when they had a good opening to hit the head and combo into zsd such as on the cone breath.
@metallikalm4336
@metallikalm4336 3 жыл бұрын
みんな零距離スラアク良いよって言うから剣スラアク始めたんですが、足遅いうえにゲージ回収モーションが長いのなんのって困ってました。 大剣使いなので離脱力ある斧のほうが魅力あるなと思いました。ありがとうございます。
@JaJagimpjelterosso
@JaJagimpjelterosso 3 жыл бұрын
Axe mode, best mode. Watch and learn ZSD spammers. Great gameplay and info. Good stuff!
@travisbakrie23
@travisbakrie23 3 жыл бұрын
i've been looking for this, instead of spamming rocksteady+temporal mantle and zsd in the head your way is more stylish and i love it
@Mode_na
@Mode_na 3 жыл бұрын
11:14 Fatalis: "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man?"
@silv2469
@silv2469 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@nakazawakenjiro2524
@nakazawakenjiro2524 3 жыл бұрын
the USEFUL INFO you give in this video is crazy and your switch axe skills are godlike! i dont know why you aren't famous yet TY for this info on fatalis.
@Agenasubomber
@Agenasubomber 13 күн бұрын
斧好きとしてとても参考になりましたありがとうございます。
@oriondezagrats4228
@oriondezagrats4228 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy that there are people like yourself out there putting out video content for axe-focused playstyles.
@user-bs1mp4ep4m
@user-bs1mp4ep4m 3 жыл бұрын
斧主体やってみたけどこんな上手くできない…凄い👏
@tryndtheundyingwilkes5523
@tryndtheundyingwilkes5523 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you actually are the biggest legend for a guide I didn't actually know he doesn't do cone breath in 4 leg stance holy thank you so much
@LordDurandal
@LordDurandal 7 ай бұрын
lol at the "Don't be greedy" twice Good stuff love the setup.
@Flowermanic
@Flowermanic 3 жыл бұрын
Thats how a Swaxe should be played, which is not a stupid ZSD spam style. Great build and guide, thank you!
@raku6679
@raku6679 3 жыл бұрын
Love your playstyle! You've really shown the interesting parts of SA! Looking forward to see more SnS or SA TA from you
@devilg11
@devilg11 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching the video as it's showing the real skill to handle switch axe not just spamming 0-distance head attack.
@osYukari
@osYukari 3 жыл бұрын
very informative ! now i'll try solo him again (without zsd spam) and btw, i didn't know there's a transform attack combo after forward roll in sword mode... thanks again !
@SoulAL13
@SoulAL13 3 жыл бұрын
I'm one of zero skill discharge spammer but when I get my chances I also use axe mode for the break damage. But usually on random people just spam zsd all the way, so it makes me confuse which is better. Thanks for the video I'm gonna try it later, I don't mind the eye but to completely break its head in 5 minute that's freaking satisfying
@jeremycu4571
@jeremycu4571 3 жыл бұрын
axe break has natural part damage boost, its always better, esp after you power it up with the spin slam move. Only problem is that you dont have many openings, unlike zsd w mantles. zsd final blast has part dmg boost, but all the ticks deal very low part damage. Heads damage from it is about half the numbers you see.
@JaviviBass91
@JaviviBass91 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanations and also showing mistakes to solve them. Also love that "I have no idea what im doing here" lmao
@user-gq7ci1th6i
@user-gq7ci1th6i 3 жыл бұрын
スラアクがミラに刺さるとは知っていたけど、ここまで立ち回り次第でラクに邪眼集めができるのスゴイ!
@user-nt8zi9rt9v
@user-nt8zi9rt9v 3 жыл бұрын
サムネのスラアクがイカついアカムトルムに見えました
@idabss2710
@idabss2710 3 жыл бұрын
Ty for this ima SA main and always suspect the axe mode was better on early state in order to horn break, i would put it in more practice from now on. awesome run!
@TheVictor126
@TheVictor126 3 жыл бұрын
such a clean run! and here I am struggling when using a zsd spam build while you make it look so easy using axe mode
@TheVictor126
@TheVictor126 3 жыл бұрын
@PeanutxButter it's not that I can't beat it, but even my best attempts result in 15 minutes with a single head break due to low part damage, or 20 minutes for a double head break since I can't use the siege weapons, I just have trouble charging the blade reliably without mantles so I have this huge 2 minutes openings which I can only get the blade charged and like 2 zsd
@simon547279
@simon547279 3 жыл бұрын
今まで遠ざけていたスラアクを使い始め、とても参考になりました這いずり途中の斬り上げには驚愕です笑。 片手剣も少しずつですが楽しみながら数盛りやってます。徐々にガードバクステとJR慣れていきます😭
@j_nite
@j_nite 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best Fatalis guides I’ve seen. Many thanks 🙏
@Sabata
@Sabata 3 жыл бұрын
I tried this for the first time and wow, it's SO much faster for me! Faster than ZSD spam and Frostcraft Great Sword!! Thank you for the great video!!
@trevinsingh9390
@trevinsingh9390 3 жыл бұрын
Switchaxe was designed for this fight, alongside bow and lance. I feel like his moveset compliments these weapon types the most since the entire fight is: Hit the hard to reach head on long neck. Surprising tho, I find partbreak less useful here than peak performance, agitator and WEX.
@StraightFlashHacks
@StraightFlashHacks 3 жыл бұрын
超理系の戦い方
@Emotional.Damage265
@Emotional.Damage265 3 жыл бұрын
Great commentary zen and those cone attacks are the key to this fight
@akaten.
@akaten. 3 жыл бұрын
斧強化はスラアク複数人で行ってるとき頭の譲り合いの面でもかなりアツい
@letallettuce816
@letallettuce816 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, this method of playing alatreon has been the most fun ive tried so far, i did it with peak and destroyer 3 instead of maximun, just for making my live easier, i wanted to play alatreon in different ways, and this was the most fun! :D
@randomloverofcheese
@randomloverofcheese 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf running part breaker 3 is pretty overkill, since the power axe mode gives you a roughly 27% increase in part breaker damage by itself. Also I'm not 100% certain but I think it doesn't stack with part breaker either
@illdowhateveryouwant.thenp4865
@illdowhateveryouwant.thenp4865 3 жыл бұрын
you mean fatalis?
@letallettuce816
@letallettuce816 3 жыл бұрын
@@illdowhateveryouwant.thenp4865 yeah :/ ive notice after a year xd
@yanuarmustika5816
@yanuarmustika5816 3 жыл бұрын
So he never do flame cone in 4 legs. Thanks for clarifying.
@iiaa3116
@iiaa3116 3 жыл бұрын
回避うますぎる…
@johnpol7578
@johnpol7578 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible timing in the head break greatings from Mexico! New sub
@ta-3982
@ta-3982 3 жыл бұрын
7:58 特定のモーションを警戒して立ち回りを変えるってのブラボの低レベル縛りルドウイークの二連切り警戒を思い出したわ
@user-fm3sx9qd4o
@user-fm3sx9qd4o 3 жыл бұрын
さすがに斧主体だと時間かかると思って試してなかったのにこのタイム!! すげぇ…
@Drewdignity
@Drewdignity 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very well done video mate. Thanks I'd probably farcaster away and change to the ZSD oriented build once its head is broken
@bennyhaslonghair
@bennyhaslonghair 3 жыл бұрын
Such a smooth axe run. So good!
@user-zf3ec3qf3s
@user-zf3ec3qf3s 3 жыл бұрын
何使っても立ち回り綺麗っすね…
@mikey2bots966
@mikey2bots966 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool video! Thank you Master Zen!
@valoric4767
@valoric4767 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! I’m gonna learn to play switch axe properly after seeing this. Incredible job.
@swoleveig
@swoleveig 3 жыл бұрын
This was such useful commentary and clean play! You've earned my sub!
@nastysushi9290
@nastysushi9290 3 жыл бұрын
a great guide thanks for the tips Zen-sama
@user-jl5vg4kv2h
@user-jl5vg4kv2h 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial. May i ask some question? While 5:50 ミラボレアス breath, you use sword zsd because of amped state. how about using なぎ払い変形斬り? because of dps of zsd more than なぎ払い変形斬り?(O > R2) While 8:50 ミラボレアス using two slow fire ball, i often see one fast fire ball and one landmine after two slow fire ball. how to do damage while this moment(two slow fire ball > one fast fireball > one fire landmine)? Maybe answer are in the "MHWI | 片手剣狩猟解説 #8 ミラボレアス" i will finish it latter thanks for reading
@JusticeDrago95
@JusticeDrago95 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing run!!! Very impressive, loved your insight and tips. Keep it up!
@oval122
@oval122 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to watch a sa guide from u as well Nicely done video from zen sensei as always
@ksc2-303versus
@ksc2-303versus 3 жыл бұрын
大変参考になりました✨
@ansonnn_
@ansonnn_ 3 жыл бұрын
Oh there are some mistakes with the English set. The English set is not the same with the Japanese set. Thanks for the nice guides anyway. The SnS one also helped a lot
@drbodo3746
@drbodo3746 2 жыл бұрын
man you'r so awesome when play just axe when everybody use zsd only on hited head. GOOD Job
@azaraseal7324
@azaraseal7324 3 жыл бұрын
斧主体スタイリッシュでかっこいのでつかってみようと思います!
@gilbertwalker8046
@gilbertwalker8046 3 жыл бұрын
I’m personally having more luck using the insect Glaive to farm Evil Eyes but maybe I just need more practice with the switch axe.
@yankevin5512
@yankevin5512 3 жыл бұрын
Great thanks for the commentary! This is a good guide
@DeathSh0ck
@DeathSh0ck 3 жыл бұрын
As​ good​ as​ always​. Good​ job bro
@three_o_two
@three_o_two 3 жыл бұрын
Great run! I have never totally broken its head before the barricade. It's amazing. It's always great to see some quality Switch Axe hunts. You say you're not denying ZSD style, but I hate that sytle. Random SX hunters I meet these days are all just spamming Clutch ZSD whether the monster is enraged or not. And it ruins the hunt in my opinion.
@SomeOne-ke6vq
@SomeOne-ke6vq 3 жыл бұрын
Power axe is there for a reason, because it causes staggers and claggers more frequently for the opportunity to clutch ZSD, I wish that they’d know this though but the game doesn’t really tell you that.
@weebutrash8733
@weebutrash8733 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeOne-ke6vq Fatalis doesn't clagger or stagger, and the openings when he finches are pretty short so not really a valid point
@SomeOne-ke6vq
@SomeOne-ke6vq 3 жыл бұрын
@@weebutrash8733 I didn’t mean just on fatalis though, I always see SA players always ZSD’ing on other monsters without even activating power axe as those really help your teammates.
@seemsoverseas4493
@seemsoverseas4493 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeOne-ke6vq usually they are new to the weapon or looking for an easier way to kill monster. Like sticky build.
@LR-jb6zn
@LR-jb6zn 3 жыл бұрын
better safe than feel guilty being carted, i guess 😕
@RodrigoMAOEE
@RodrigoMAOEE 3 жыл бұрын
So good! You are a true hunter! Love it
@daraam02
@daraam02 3 жыл бұрын
This is great, too bad my old man reflexes and timing dont help me with trying to get into position to pull these off.
@Dirtyclamjam
@Dirtyclamjam 3 жыл бұрын
SO CLEAN! nice vid man
@Drischa
@Drischa 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, I learned a lot. Great player.
@derdome1702
@derdome1702 3 жыл бұрын
Ur build at the beginning says u have 6 points in crit boost That's supposed to be critical eye isn't it
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 3 жыл бұрын
2 of the crit/evasion should be mighty/whatever decos since he's overcapping both crit boost & evade window by 2 points
@derdome1702
@derdome1702 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigDBrian u have to look at the skills not the armor then u know what u need it's an error but he realized it already
@diceking7469
@diceking7469 3 жыл бұрын
Correction at 5:28 - 5:33 I cannot remember the exact numbers but it's something like 0.2 per tic and 2.5-3.5 for the blast. But anyway if you were wondering if you should use it for a zsd build against fatalis for hornbreak over axe mode I can't say I prefer zsd because of how easy it is.
@user-wu2xl3ub8y
@user-wu2xl3ub8y 3 жыл бұрын
オノメインあんまり動画ないから助かる
@shampoobanana944
@shampoobanana944 3 жыл бұрын
The gatling sounds like a SMG when you fast forward
@Ispin4273
@Ispin4273 3 жыл бұрын
おぉ、あなたこそ導きの青いスラアク使いだ
@renzchua6331
@renzchua6331 3 жыл бұрын
Great run! I really wanted to get into using SA, do you have any plans of doing an in-depth guide for it like what you did for SnS?
@TOBI-vw5vc
@TOBI-vw5vc 3 жыл бұрын
Just after I soloed him for the first time using ZSD Switchaxe ;( Hopefully I can get the evil eye using this method
@vietster1234
@vietster1234 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I love switchaxe right after SnS but I could never get the headbreak before killing him ;-;
@SomeOne-ke6vq
@SomeOne-ke6vq 3 жыл бұрын
You’re already good if you can kill him without a headbreak, cause I always fail if that happens.
@vietster1234
@vietster1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeOne-ke6vq I only get the first headbreak right before phase 3 which lets my live but I cant get any evil eyes xD
@SomeOne-ke6vq
@SomeOne-ke6vq 3 жыл бұрын
@@vietster1234 well, partbreaker really helps but you just have to get used to his moves, enough that you know the opportunities to headsnipe, Zen already has a hunt breakdown for the sns that helped me, I have used sns once on him with both headbreaks, I always use IG on farming hunts though.
@koko_law
@koko_law 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful moves, I like it, it's inspiring
@npoeeva01
@npoeeva01 3 жыл бұрын
He visto muchos videos sobre como matar a Fatalis en estas semanas, creo que tus explicaciones son muy buenas y de hecho aprendí mucho aunque no uso la Switch Axe.
@devonhoenig9515
@devonhoenig9515 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these bilingual videos!
@TheJoey3590
@TheJoey3590 3 жыл бұрын
Idk if I just got unlucky but sometimes it might be best to shorten zsd after he does the fire cone breath. Sometimes he'll do the fire cone breath again immediately but you're stuck in the long recovery animation.
@Karioth_666
@Karioth_666 3 жыл бұрын
変形してこそのスラッシュアックス
@Vinco1352
@Vinco1352 3 жыл бұрын
The swaggiest of them all
@hederdevries4403
@hederdevries4403 3 жыл бұрын
Great guide, and cool that you dare to show mistakes as well!
@CcNuggetz
@CcNuggetz 3 жыл бұрын
This is first time I see someone play SA without constantly clutch claw + spamming ZSD.
@user-vr8qs5mi6x
@user-vr8qs5mi6x 3 жыл бұрын
斧強化のタイミングが難しい
@user-kr2rk6gj5e
@user-kr2rk6gj5e 3 жыл бұрын
(戒め)でもう主の事好きになってる自分がおる。 これもうわかんねぇなぁ……
@riccardomastroiacovo8146
@riccardomastroiacovo8146 3 жыл бұрын
Questo video mi aperto gli occhi, fosse uscito prima quando ancora lo farmavo mi sarei risparmiato un bel po di tempo, comunque tattica eccellente
@Gdozify
@Gdozify 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zen, would you like to demonstrate how to hit Fatalis in 4 legs, when he's doing the sweeping breath? I think there's an opening here, but it really hard because he's also moving forward/backward
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 3 жыл бұрын
Try to set up at the very end of the animation, as his head comes back to in front of him. If you learn it well you can do a morph sweep (risky due to recovery) or set up a heavy slam right as his head returns to in front of him. Only do small pokes before that point, his head moves too much.
@pedrompso
@pedrompso 3 жыл бұрын
know im kinda late but i took a break from playing and now im back, trying to make a build to farm fatalis solo if possible, but the gems on the english set seem to be wrong, anyone could help? just so i have an idea of what i might be missing
@inyourdreams3434
@inyourdreams3434 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks zen
@irfanhardanto3482
@irfanhardanto3482 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 3 жыл бұрын
When I use greatsword with two levels of partbreaker I have just enough damage to break the horns in phase one, then he flies off
@dross042012
@dross042012 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Great video. Is it better to leave the palico behind or bring with?
@user-tk8pj2gw2w
@user-tk8pj2gw2w 3 жыл бұрын
扇ブレス誘発には猫は連れて行かない方が良さそうですか?
@POKKIN0216
@POKKIN0216 3 жыл бұрын
スラアク初挑戦してみようかな…
@user-ex6zp3dj5m
@user-ex6zp3dj5m 3 жыл бұрын
出会って5分で邪眼
@Rimuzow
@Rimuzow 3 жыл бұрын
5秒は厳しいか
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