Zenvo TSR-S: this 1,177bhp supercar’s wing does silly things | Top Gear

[@sdg131]

I love how you can hear the checkpoints and the crowd from the Forza race they pulled the audio from, definitely adds a sense of idiocy to the clip

[@sebonator3000]

**show budget does not exceed 23¥**

[@zombieslayerxenagaming]

why was the sound even used, im literally playing the game now and its funny to me

[@Vickyrocks247]

Not everyone can fake excitement as good as Jeremy always did.. and that's what made him one of the greatest TV presenter ever! Miss old TopGear

[@jaytaylor5901]

Don't worry, J C is on a show called grand tour now.

[@mclarenf1lm374]

We're just missing good hosts Chris harris is a great one but the rest of the cast is mediocre in comparison Look at season 24, it's actually pretty good, not great but good In comparison you have people like this who are just hosts for the sake of being hosts, including the one who goes to suck off every brand's new track specials instead of harris, the amg one for example

[@eetherington]

I assume this is a review for the magazine not the show

[@benkress]

I had the exact same reaction.. the facial expressions and excitement when accelerating are just uber fake

[@SWZGAMING.]

Same thing i thought when i saw this vid

[@mr2matt]

0:12 that sound clip is from FH5 lmao, you can hear the crowd, pops, everything

[@camokid_za1520]

Same as passing through the checkpoints lmao

[@andreia2286]

Wtf =))))))

[@iMrParker]

I knew I wasn't going crazy lol. I heard two or three checkpoint noises

[@Iridiumcosmos]

That’s fucking hilarious LMFAO

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

The sound is also almost completely than the sound in 0:52

[@pratyushbalaji]

The audio is so realistic there’s no way it could be from a game, such as forza. Not like I can’t hear the crowd cheering!

[@dpb404]

It is isn't it! Maybe I have played too much Forza because I swear I heard that too.

[@BioXenoArrow]

@@dpb404 You also can hear the checkpoints along with the crowd.

[@DesinenceMusic]

If it weren't for Reddit, you wouldn't have noticed it.

[@pratyushbalaji]

@@DesinenceMusic ik, still funny. I prolly wouldn’t have noticed it because I don’t watch top gear anymore

[@MattAutoMotive]

@@dpb404 yep it is you can hear the crowd cheers, the sound of a checkpoint and the iconic forza backfire sound

[@unr3alGaming]

Considering how angry Zenvo was with Jeremy Clarkson's review of this car a few years ago, I'm surprised that Top Gear was actually able to get them to agree to bring them another car. That being said, Ollie didn't actually tell us anything about how the car actually performs (how drive-able it is compared to the ST1).

[@WeAreTheTrueMedia]

Yep, pointless clip.

[@bmwbryan1]

Not to mention the track was wet..

[@STAG162]

well, it did keep getting more... orange, as the orang-utan said. it kept failing on the track, catching fire, having hordes of emergency vehicles following along in anticipation of its predictably early demise. that wasn't Jeremy's fault, that was the car's. it's just that Andy Wilman and Jeremy wanted to extract every ounce of piss they could from this joke while they could. I'm glad they've brought it back to the track though.

[@vamborool7499]

Qqq we q

[@DonLee1980]

the fact that that car review became viral video, actually helped that company spread its name. Nobody is going to remember some dutch supercar company which has no pedigree, no history, no nothing. And I think they realised that too and hence now they have the crazy wing, something for people to remember about. It's not Top Gear's fault that the car broke down and caught on fire.

[@fastlanegaming]

#ForzaHorizon5 Ingame Audio 😂🤙🏾

[@darrenhitchcox6345]

I was actually filming with pyro crew when the original ST1 caught fire. The rear brake stuck on and overheated the body to catch on fire. The car had also previously blow the clutch and suffered a few other issues. Stig also said the car was undriveable when turbo came in as dumped an additional 400 odd BHP mid corner when you did not want it. The ST1 was a beautiful car and I hope Zenvo have addressed it early production issues. Not a fan of that wing, does make a the car look broken......

[@kristian6622]

I appreciate the insight from someone who is unable to string a few sentences together 👍

[@fastdays_1]

@@kristian6622 Zenvo fanboy? he's talking facts...it hurts, I know, but still facts. You should comment on those point instead of just making fun of him.

[@Christopher_Rock]

Facts? The facts was a aftermarket fan caught fire, and it was a prototype. The problems are solved.

[@kristian6622]

@@fastdays_1 had a great time in one of the early ST1’s at Goodwood, quality wasn’t great (understandably) - glad this guy wasn’t on the editorial staff at Top Gear 😂

[@kristian6622]

@@Christopher_Rock The level of engineering now, I spent time in that exact car (FOS 2021), has improved ten fold.

[@KaiOfDestruction]

This was probably one of the most non exciting reviews of a car I've ever seen on Top Gear. I'd rather have Captain Slow come back one last time for a whole episode just to explain what the wing does around a track.

[@KaiOfDestruction]

@@ytaltacc8008 Honestly, that would be more interesting than what I just watched. . .

[@sebonator3000]

Watching him lap the track twice in a Austin Princess full of water exceeds the entertainment levels of New Top Gear by the lenght of the entire European highway system

[@KaiOfDestruction]

@@sebonator3000 Now THAT was a legendary episode that will live forever. The time James May, aka: Captain Slow, aka: Mr. Slowly, aka: Captain Sense of Direction. Lapped both his colleagues *TWICE*

[@biomorphic]

Totally agree, the presenter is so annoying. He tries hard to be fun, but he is not. He looks like a 4 years old baby that got a new toy. And he drives slower than Captain Slow.

[@egyptology22]

Wouldn't we all

[@mateusvin]

10 seconds into the video, they use FH5 to get the car sound, you can clearly hear the characteristic backfire sound and the checkpoint sounds.

[@Kartoffeljoghurt]

Nice forza sound clip at 0:10

[@defnotatroll]

The zenvo ST1 came out when I was a kid in year 6, I can't believe I'm a full adult now and this car looks completely identical to the ST1 but with a floppy wing

[@consolo2863]

@Silent Shadow ye

[@Joshua-ev9uw]

@SIlent Shadow I just report them like a good citizen. Pretty sure anyone under the age of 60 knows how to find free adult content

[@TheCorrectionist1984]

Have they actually ever sold a car?

[@fastdays_1]

They are continuing to drop money into something that will never be profitable...

[@Christopher_Rock]

And u are just a hater

[@guillaumee1878]

0:12 you just used sound clips from forza, we can even hear the checkpoints

[@tigerkruijsen3712]

Exactly 🤣

[@luvzangetsu]

Theoretically speaking, the physics behind the wing DO make sense. BUT it still feels more like a gimmick to me than anything else.

[@AntoniusTyas]

It does make sense, but at that angle? Pretty sure it'll stall the wing. And I can speak like that, considering my background is from aerospace engineering.

[@mitchellsteindler]

@@AntoniusTyas did you measure it? Pretty sure you have to actually measure it or simulate it.

[@spdcrzy]

Theoretically speaking, the physics do NOT. Ask ANY aerodynamicist.

[@ideaynojodas]

Agreed

[@luvzangetsu]

@@spdcrzy It does though. As the car turns right with speed, the outer side of the car which is the left side has more traction from the weight distribution of the car which goes left (simple law of inertia). Hence, the wing rises on the right side of the car, since as going higher, there is more air pressure generated onto the wing WHICH keeps the right side of the car planted. We all know a bigger wing means better down force. The wing of the AMG GT BS is huge which is why the AMG GT BS has supports inside the boot. As such the wing going higher on the right side generates more down force. You don't need to be an "aerodynamicist" to understand this. It's just plain physics.

[@dnice4145]

Like the look of it, eventhough it's getting harder to tell these cars apart.

[@TARS..]

I could’ve sworn I saw this as a Lykan Hypersport for a second.

[@watermelon1221]

@@TARS.. looks nothing like it. unless you're the type of person who can't tell the difference between a bmw and an audi

[@MarcinHopa8]

Good point, they do start to look the same a bit, without character

[@Uncleapplan18]

@@TARS.. what😲!!!

[@Uncleapplan18]

@@MarcinHopa8 but see if you think there is a difference between the 911 turbo s and a standard 911 you need to agree there is a huge difference between this and the ts1 gt

[@AntoniusTyas]

Hot take: TopGear should let more of their magazine personnel making video reviews on KZbin like EVO or Autocar.

[@Vyzard]

James: Are there any upsides to (the old zenvo)? Jeremy: Uh, upsides, yes. The fire did get rid of the condensation in the lights. And It's surprisingly comfortable and very quiet. James: Well, it would be quiet. It was broken.

[@levinrajan7438]

Now that was a proper car review

[@SmashGhost]

Tilting the wing will make a difference if it's moving into a stream of air that would otherwise be taken away by the flow during a turn. If that's the case then there are far more elegant solutions than this slow and ungainly wing. Given the responsiveness of an active mechanical system cannot keep up with yaw events there's going to be some interesting over-the-limit handling.

shark fin, the Lambo's ALA are better solution - less complexity and weight

[@eddieconroy212]

I always loved the styling of that car but they can keep the wing. I’m glad they have sorted out the reliability problems as well.

[@futeditzs2482]

If it was Clarkson that blew up this Zenvo... Good memories 😂

[@jammasterflash9448]

This thing has been around for nearly a couple of years now, does nothing to excite other than with theatrics and a hammer of a power train. As a massive petrol head I never thought I’d see the day where a car with these HP figures disinterest me.

[@xXAlmdudlerXx]

What do you expect from a drivers car?

[@jammasterflash9448]

@@xXAlmdudlerXx I want to be mooned by it’s beauty, I want to be able to dance on the pedals without fear of death at every turn and I want the car to be stationary piece of art not just a moving gimmick. My thoughts and tastes

[@xXAlmdudlerXx]

@@jammasterflash9448 Sure each to their own. I personally like the thrill of the chance to do a mistake with the throttle at any second. I have a fascination with 1980's Group B and F1

[@jammasterflash9448]

@@xXAlmdudlerXx I respect that! That’s why there’s so Much diversity do petrolheads, we’re all different. Love group B stuff

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@jammasterflash9448 imagine if Kasumi Toyama drive this car.

[@Vyn_Solina]

I love that intro! I can distinct the car audio from FH5 which is awesome!

[@GeorgeJacob96]

Shmee150 /Tim is getting one, Can't wait to see the journey.

[@Xx-VSM-xX]

Should be a big update soon

[@madhavisingh9046]

I honestly don't understand why he's getting one to be honest. For that kind of money, there's definitely better options. But hey, his life, his choice.

[@toinehouben1976]

@@madhavisingh9046 probably got a huge discount

[@Amarjit_Singh]

@@madhavisingh9046 Like what?

[@magnuslikestanks6044]

@@madhavisingh9046 What cars are more extreme, limited and customizable for that money? I can't think of many.

[@df3_legomocs]

three days ago i finalised my own zenvo tsr-s moc in lego and hold and behold top gear coming out with a video on that car just a litle bit after im stocked

[@patrickdgarez86]

This is a presenter that I could see creating a vibe worthy of the Top Gear name. Chris Harris, this gentlemen and Jonny Smith. IMHO the appropriate 3. Passion, creative humor and kid like excitement.

[@Stator720]

All three are top choices but that would make bad TV. Remember top gear is an entertainment show. The in depth technical reviews we like just don't work there. Example being Jonny's youtube reviews compared to the style required for fifth gear previously.

[@Stator720]

@Patrick Garez Oh I feel ya dude, not for everyone. I like Fred and think the three work well, ofcourse I'll watch anything Harris does. I hated the goons towards the end and that same style carried in to TGT which has been total shite other than Boat episode and recent France, it's just too much, stupid obvious jokes and not funny. (I know I'm in the minority there). At least we can all agree Fifth gear recharged is a total train wreck. As much as I like Plato and VBH.

[@danieldickerson4838]

It’s interesting that we have yet to see a lap time, nor any indication of what real gains this wing offers over other alternatives. Maybe one day, I hope, but right now it really does just feel like a party trick to me.

[@aftermathsample305]

Watch this video and then go watch Jeremy Clarkson review the Zenvo ST1 and you'll see how Top Gear used to be the best ever tv show to watch. USED TO BE

[@BlzrTV]

.....was that a Forza checkpoint noise?

[@grantweb806]

I could listen to that gear shift all day

[@vipermax3790]

the only good part in this vid is when they showed a 3 sec from the good old top gear...that's it

[@magnuslikestanks6044]

Can't wait to see a proper in depth look at how this thing is to build and later own, through Shmee150's channel. I think it's a fabulous machine.

[@the_ur3an_myth]

The Pagani Huayra's 'winglets' or whatever they're called basically behave the same way except smaller and separated so it doesn't look as crazy as this wing

[@luisnunes7560]

The state of topgear..

[@liam7989]

Bro you can literally hear the checkpoint sound from forza 😂😂

[@TheWhiteSpy]

Zenvo ST1 was pretty hot, but this is even better.

[@seventyseven1403]

They seem to be all using the same old school "Top Gear" script style that Jeremy & Co used to.. 😵‍💫

[@daaaaaaaaan]

Damn that's crazy it sounds exactly like the Zenvo in Forza Horizon 5

[@luke.emmisonofficial]

It is… because at 0:12 there is fh5 checkpoint sounds

[@Kat_Krazy]

@@luke.emmisonofficialr/wooosh

[@MB-qi8rv]

Hahahahaha wow that was some of the worst acting I’ve ever seen “WOOOAAAHHH HO HO HO” 😂😂😂

[@nica080910]

Shmee loves his Zenvo so much he drove his TSR recently in California 😮

[@JoshuaHolstein]

I had that moving wing idea in 2014 It’s fully adjustable in every way

[@sstills951]

Looks like somebody owes you money.

[@JoshuaHolstein]

Sadly i was not 18 to make an patent 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JoshuaHolstein]

Sadly i was not 18 to make an patent 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JoshuaHolstein]

Sadly i was not 18 to make an patent 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@truemenimprovedaily]

I’ve always loved top gear but the one thing that always PISSES me off is the fact that they remain filming these hyper cars in the wet UK instead of going somewhere dry and showing off the car as it should be. I can’t imagine these car companies want their cars being reviewed on top gear out of the best conditions. The money wasted has to be immense

[@AnthroGearhead]

UK in a nutshell

[@dod_the_angel]

Kinda hard to do that in lockdown. Normally the speed week event is at a track in mainland Europe but they haven't been able to do that the past 2 years

[@Skate771parts]

Same exact weather in Denmark so It won’t matter

[@johnnyboy1586]

When have you ever seen a blue sky in Britain 🙂

[@richardhammer187]

@@johnnyboy1586 The last 4 or so months? Driest on record and all that, have you been to the UK...?

[@maxxedredlineproductions]

Love the amazing amount of detail Zenvo is putting into their cars! :D

[@WanganTunedKeiCar]

Especially the exhaust sound!

[@richardhammer187]

It's crap up close, exposed screw heads to hold in carbon panels, really...!

[@kristian6622]

I had a great time in one of the early ST1’s at Goodwood, quality wasn’t great (understandably). The level of engineering now however, (spent time in that exact car (FOS 2021), has improved ten fold.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

You had a great time in Forza

[@mrsyg2029]

So annoying when they get a car you really want to see and the track is soaked

[@richardlehoux]

For a few seconds, I misread Zemo. That’s interesting

[@pinut187]

Which part of that is interesting 🧐?

[@AtheistOrphan]

How so?

[@5HA5H]

Engine sound provided by Forza Horizon 5 xD 0:11 you can even hear the checkpoint and the crowd LOL

[@piotrlalak1766]

Watching it reminds me of early tests of MP4-12C's break steer which proved that no matter how low latency and cleaver active systems are, sudden and delayed interference can have catastrophic effects. On top of that it's an eyesore especially considering similar aero solutions have been deployed with elegance (see Huayra, Speedtail or even Mitsubishi HSR-2)

[@rivercloud32]

Can you guys ever do a car review not in the rain?

[@furiousgamerofficialYT]

I like at 0:15 you can hear the sound from FH5 and the crowd cheering and checkpoints! Why? Idk? xD maybe proves that FH5 is close to accurate!

[@twwxr]

I really miss the old top gear

[@DANNYonPC]

0:10 nice forza horizon audio

[@M3PH11]

I can't help but feel that they could have done a better job of designing the hydraulics of the wing system. Also watching the wing flip around while the car is moving is a little mind bending. It looks soooooo wrong.

[@TimInertiatic]

The force of the wing is through the central hinge point, so how can it balance the car L-R? Same principle that means when a F1 car loses a bit of its front wing, it doesn't reduce downforce on that side, it reduces total downforce as it's connected via a central column...

[@cyclistpete]

For your example. Losing part of the wing would effect the downforce for that side of the car, and overall downforce for the car. I could be wrong, but I think elevated part of the wing moves more air (more downforce) because the air around that part of the wing is less turbulent.

[@TimInertiatic]

@@cyclistpete yes. For an F1 car It can upset airflow for the rest of the car and could impact downforce on that side of the floor, which would impact L-R loading. However, the downforce generated by the wing is delivered centrally In the case of the zenvo the disturbed air would be behind the car anyway. It would impact some of the air flowing over the car as it's increasing / decreasing drag side to side, but unless the body makes significant downforce at its extreme left and right I can't see it making much difference Although... Thinking about it and watching again, I'd misconstrued the aim. They are not trying to create extra downforce L to R, they are trying to oppose the centripetal force which pushes the car into oversteer. The wing is attempting to create a force vector which is down and inwards. However, you are then trying to oppose a significantly higher force through the wing strut than just XXX kg of downforce as you have the weight of the car at X G's to combat. So it seems logical that it would do *something*, it's just whether it's significant and whether it is worth it over the change in overall balance it would create

[@pmm4177]

No wonder top gear is almost done, that guy though

[@CaptainSaltyDawg]

7 long years ago when Top Gear was still Top Gear.....

[@jarmoac]

i love it when the sound is taken directly from forza horizon 5 at 0:12

[@haseebwaqar8980]

Car deserved a better Review.

[@polpotnoodle7441]

Wow Top gear has hit an all time low

[@YachtReport]

When you see a Top Gear video pop up and expect Mr Harris but are disappointed...

[@ACuriousTanuki]

Why? Sure, Chris is the big name, but Ollie's fun too.

[@LivesInLibertyCity]

What a machine.. But his "Whoaahoaho!!" made me cringe a bit

[@Steezboy3000]

First presenter (based on this clip) that I've liked on Top Gear in a long time besides Harris

[@enricorossi2795]

And what a Sound what a roar

[@eze__95]

Why is this video just mostly us watching you talk and you driving the car slow??? Are you afraid it's going to catch on fire again?

[@mattuw82]

That wing doesn't seem like it would work. Wouldn't it cause your front outside tire to lift when you're turning?

[@ringoooringooo2190]

Wow this company still exist???

[@Slingsshootingandcamping]

That wing looks like it came out of halfords

[@Staniel_]

what has recently been brought to my attention thanks to Doug, if you’re going to implement new technologies and charge more $$$ you must also change the vehicles Body In White to accentuate its capabilities. rather than copy and pasting a previous model with a Whammy Wing

[@suryasoman691]

Did he just called Jeremy Clarkson "test driver"?

[@wolftone2437]

LMAO they really used audio from Forza Horizon 5 at 0:10, you can hear the checkpoints and crowds

[@bjornanderson3645]

It's not top gear without Clarkson/May/Hammond. I don't know what it is, but it is something else.

[@govind9402]

The moments of the wing is really natural

[@lukemasters7498]

We not gonna mention the forza backfire at 0:14

[@KebabsRock1997]

A wobbly wing that makes the car feel less predictable in exchange for a 200mph limited top speed? Underwhelming, to say the least.

[@dj_technoofficial]

Hey, just an FYI, the title got set wrong. Its supposed to be 1177hp instead of 1777bhp

[@ViceCityNightcrawler]

LMAOOO They just had to throw the clip of Jeremys on fire, but the new Zenvo sounds insane

[@lance_the_avocado9492]

Nice Forza audio m8

[@hemugaming8550]

This is my dream car

[@geerttonk27]

why does top gear still exist.

[@Benzer18]

I miss Jeremy 😭😭😭😭

[@mikkosrussos]

Like how they get the new guy to review the death trap😂

[@AutomotiveMike]

That spoiler looks so cool on a circuit!

[@goodie2shoes874]

Wobble wing looks cool

[@familiemerk6084]

And still the the gt4 rs is faster on track

[@zzhughesd]

I need a sensible commute in this T-S

[@ACuriousTanuki]

Mmm, yes. "Sensible". Would like to see that.

[@ChubiPanda]

I'm a firm believer in the clutch pedal, can I have a go in the Zenvo to prove me wrong?

[@PraetorBeast]

That wing is just a show piece.

[@stefan-stocksmadesimple5241]

Now let's see it on the ring 👀

[@rsplines12]

You'll have to wait till Shmee gets his delivered.

[@rc0885]

Speed and power .Jeremy clarkson 2002-2015 (the proper top gear )

[@Lua_iqova]

I’m just gonna go back and watch Clarkson review the ST1 then imagine how he’d review this one

[@typhoon3s943]

Great video Ollie

[@nikkrelj471]

The same zenvo that exploded when Richard, james and Jeremy were still in the show and it looks the same

[@waffles8710]

You can hear the bloody checkpoint noises from forza horizon 5

[@RESO_44]

Hammond would have made a better presentation I think...

[@Antonio88870]

move on... this is from the magazine

[@danmar007]

I really like the Zenvo's design. I'd like to see it without the wing.

[@R-Tap]

The wing looks like it's broken!

[@grvb2311]

Forza Horizon Sounds 🤣 0:10

[@christophermichael4113]

Definitely is the sound from Forza horizon 5, come on top gear are you on a budget or something 🤣

[@ferraros3289]

forza horizon 5 is going to be mad !!!!!!!! 0:12

[@nikkrelj471]

The guy is driving like its a monday morning in london. My god if Jeremy or Richard was in it they would have been flying everywhere

[@ElysianConcepts]

The vaydar from the g35 chasis infinity looks like it influenced this build

[@ImAlrightITHINK]

I'm sure it's been done before, but I'm so amazed with a wing being able to brake to the sides. One of those aha things.