Zepla reacts to Arthars' Hilarious MMO Rant

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[@NormFC]

Zepla: are there bad words? Also zepla: what do you mean you aren't simping for ff14? Are you shitting me?!

[@Enderlinkpawnu]

I like this analogy of the MMO space being a solar system that is just two black holes orbiting eachother

[@ryuichiro.sakuraba]

I died at the "It's the same black hole!" Also the mouth and the asshole analogy is golden. I never laughed so hard these days until I saw this. Ahahaha! Don't change, Zepla.

[@thuncerd1087]

Arthars is a real entertainer. He is genuinely hilarious

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

Welcome to the Hotel Eorzea~ Such a lovely place (such a lovely place) For the bunny race~

[@rose_foxbow]

Every time Zepla gut laughs an angel gets their wings xD lol Please never change. You're golden xD

[@eviltim3786]

You know I’ve “quit wow” several times throughout the years with my longest attempt in wod when I stopped for a year and came back and the game happened to not change much (lol like no updates). However, this time there’s just something different. Before I had simply lost interest with the game from having played so long. Now, theres not only that same feeling but there’s an added level of disgust with regards to not just the game but the company as a whole. Not to mention the design just having gone a horrible direction (that is to design the game around competitive mechanics around every aspect and not just pvp which was and is a mistake). So, for the first time I haven’t bothered with the pre-order and I’m just not following dragonflights development. At this point I don’t even care if dragonflight is an all around good. The company doesn’t deserve success they deserve to be shut down and for the first time I’ve finally stopped following wow news and watching wow content updates. I’m finally just free.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

Lol, the Blackhole that is called World of Warcraft hasn't dragged me back.

[@bobsmith-ov2ku]

I feel the same way, and I played wow since day one on and off. The magic that was wow and the exploration of the world has been lost to the very few systems that a small minorty of players want.

[@iceman3317]

As if Blizzard is the only company that does it. Every company is like that. You may as well quit every game ever made if that is your opinion.

[@adam.maqavoy]

*WoD:* Was pretty much Facebook but in a MMO-Format, Had Fun (What looked like) Fun Raids? *(Stay inside Garrison)* And Never leave.. Such. Bad Quality. ~ Fun not allowed.. Glad too see You free from The Shackles of *Activision + Blizzard* One of us, Tim! (Free from WoW)

[@jesperjohansson8874]

For me its the same But with ff14, after EW shit show with bird girl i feel finally free 😂

[@clumsyturtle8544]

I love Arthars, the guy always makes me laugh.

[@jessicajones641]

I managed to permanently escape WoW’s black hole just to stumble into FFXIV’s lol!!!

[@Magflyer]

Tried to quit ffxiv 4yrs ago, came back just to check what's going on, met new friends and now never stopped ever since.

[@shybard]

Can quit. Did quit. I quit WoW years ago. And I'll never go back.

[@adam.maqavoy]

*High Five* Hombre! Haven't Played Since Cata. - Myself

[@OilFreeFeathers]

All normal people quit after wotlk or during cata. Everyone else is a coping Blizzard addict.

[@adam.maqavoy]

@@OilFreeFeathers I dunno bout that.. - Meet ppl on both sides of the Fence. Also 'Define Normal-People, By Today's Standard. By all means.

[@RainBurner13]

Yeah, i can quite happily say i quit the abusive relationship that was wow. :P

[@adam.maqavoy]

@@RainBurner13 One of us! *High five*

[@hockey1973]

WOW was not the first black hole. They called it EverCrack for a reason back in the day.

[@um_the_don6929]

I just recently started doing bozja yesterday and found the grind in there quite enjoyable besides the party if having to find a new party every 20 minutes cause I wasn't able to go where everyone else was and do all the different dates because my rank wasn't high enough, getting the memories was fast at first but then I just couldn't get into a farming party after the first hour

[@avenoktys3253]

sometimes u just need to reset instance and youll get parties

[@nafereuskortex9055]

Wow hes animated. So much energy.

[@xxJing]

People who get addicted to MMOs get addicted to the social commitment. An easy way to get people to quit, is to make them think that the game is “dead” or that very few people play it and more are quitting every day. Or if they are in a guild and the guild falls apart they’re also likely to quit because of that. However, playing any game without a social commitment or without as strong of a social commitment will never quite scratch the same itch. From a mechanical point of view, I’d honestly say Guild Wars 2 is one of the best MMORPGs out there. It’s combat and open world are fantastic. It has very flexible and robust build craft with dozens of viable builds. It has definitely the best jumping puzzles of any MMORPG out there. Yet, it’s also made specifically so you don’t feel committed to playing it constantly for any reason. There’s absolutely zero FOMO to GW2. This causes a lot of MMO players to not want to play it at all.

[@shutup1037]

p much, how people ignore all the good things just because the game have no progression power that keep people grinding, just make me confuse. The reason i stay the way out from most mmo or online game is because what I want and what this no lifers want simply dont match, I want gears to not be bs to get and progression isnt chore bs that I need to do for months, yet online games mostly just want to cater to those no lifers

[@louiskusters9452]

There's a difference between FOMO and just generally stuff to do in the game. WoW operates on FOMO: if you don't grind you just fall behind and can't do content. In FFXIV there isn't really FOMO. You can catch up very easily. But FF14 has a ton of stuff to do. I never played GW2 long enough, so not sure how much stuff to do there is in that game. But what I did play way back (many years ago) I did enjoy. But FF14 will always feel like home, I the patches never really dissapoint even if I just play for maybe one month during certain patches. I generally rotate between FFXIV, path of exile and then one or two single player games. It's a nice rhythm IMO.

[@xxJing]

@@louiskusters9452 End game in GW2 is like an amusement park, lots of things to do with very little external motivation to do anything. There’s basically no vertical progression so you don’t really need to do A before you can do B before you can do C etc. Everything is more or less available to you at any time you want to do it. This lack of structure makes it really hard to get that satisfaction you get from progressing as a group.

[@TheSuperRatt]

@@xxJing I dunno, it sounds kinda like you have an addictive personality? FOMO is always, one hundred percent a negative. It's honestly why I quit and still loathe Destiny 2, and hate some of the choices WoW's made. If there's a ton of cool content I'll never be able to experience/unlock just because I entered the scene late? Kills my interest entirely.

[@smooflarkin]

There's a very dark and dangerous galaxy called gacha. You don't want to end up there.

[@hass556]

Arthars is genuinely funny af. It’s always nice when someone’s humor mesh well with yours. STONE IV

[@Vell1981]

Well he has the right combination of Funny and Creepy af.

[@4thwall826]

shit was brutal when everyone said bless online was gonna kill other mmo games, shit came out ded asf, bless offline

[@ZGundam64]

It's like a wormhole. You got sucked out of one and then you go into the other. The next time you leave the next one you'll be sucked into another one and it continues forever.

[@sleeplesson]

How I quit WoW for good. 1. Uninstall WoW. 2. Delete the Addon directory. 3. Delete the addon configurations and custom textures. 4. Remove both of the above from any existing backups. That sets the barrier for starting back up so high it would never be worth the time investment for me to set everything back up from scratch.

[@berniemargolis4288]

I thought I was taking a break from WoW just until the release of WotLK Classic. Then they announced no RDF in WotLK Classic, so it turns out that I quit WoW after all.

[@russpc9739]

Didnt work for me, i play without addons lmao

[@joew8438]

Quit WOW ten years ago... but I'm still watching these dang videos.

[@hkoizumi3134]

Here goes my scientific analysis. WoW isn't a Black Hole. It's actually a massive super giant star. FF14 is the black hole that revolves around WoW. With every cycles that FF14 goes thru, FF14 siphon little bits of matter from WoW. And occasionally when FF14 siphon too much matter, it becomes a Quazar which expels matter back out. In between these two massive celestial objects, there are planets with a long elliptical orbit. When those planets gets closer to those two object, it picks up some of those matters either from WoW or expelled matter from Quazar.

[@stevebarrett9357]

What got me hooked on Wow was the immersion into the world, i.e., the imagery and the music, especially the music in the startup areas. That was magic. Each subsequent xpac meant less and less immersion and, for me anyway, less of a leveling challenge. I finally got burned out in BFA and only stuck around because of classic (with which I have since gotten burned out as well because P2W). I'm trying FFXIV but what I'm looking for is world immersion and FFXIV is not doing that as much for me, at least not yet. I'm waiting to see what Ashes of Creation turns out to be. He's right though. I'll probably go back to classic WotLK for a while. You folks talked about it being a black hole but your remark about Wow and FFXIV being two sides of the same black hole made me think of a worm hole. One side is WoW and the other side is FFXIV, For me there's also a third side, SWTOR, which I enjoy because I can actually be the hero of the story instead of the 'champion' who only does fetch and carry of silken tp for some dwarf who's stuck in an outhouse in Silithus. Thank you again for the chuckle. Your laughter is always infectious.

[@mattyone78]

With FFXIV it is more story immersion than world in line with the franchise it spawned from. That being said, I think people playing FFXIV that were fans of the FF franchise before experience world immersion more as they see the easter eggs and tributes to the games they already played. The story though is phenomenal so if story isn't your jam then it may be less of an experience for you. It depends where you are in the MSQ as well though as the subsequent areas of the xpacs are far more immersive than the ARR areas, and especially hitting Shadowbringers and Endwalker. If it ends up not being for you though that is fine, different strokes for different folks as they say. Edit: ShadowBRINGERS

[@stevebarrett9357]

@@mattyone78 Thank you for your insight. I enjoy the class stories in SWTOR so I will persevere with FFXIV and see where it leads.

[@KoroDoro247]

@@mattyone78 true, and damn "Shadowlands" is immersive /s

[@mattyone78]

@@KoroDoro247 yep, fixed. Was super tired writing that comment.

[@Shayera01]

I hope you find enjoyment and fulfillment in XIV! As much as I love it, however, I cannot stress enough that I hope you don't try to "make" yourself like it. If you decide it's not for you, then that's ok, and mayhap another game will tickle your fancy. :D

[@lordvalinar774]

Well "Back in my day.." there was Ultimate Online, Everquest, Neverwinter Nights (... yes... the DOS version), Dark Age of Camelot... *wipes a tear* Man I miss most of those...

[@hirobeez]

Josh is one of the crew doing maintenance on the GW2 flag but he is strapped with a super-powerful tether stuck into the checkpoint so he gets to look into the event horizon more closely.

[@dosbilliam]

"What's Bless Online?" Exactly.

[@natweigel]

Now I'm in a side tour mini lost ark black hole.

[@XarkoCZ]

I played WoW since beta and quit back in Pandas and never looked back, just done with it forever. Never thought of it much, but now that I see so many people unable to do so I feel like I have super powers.

[@duckymcqueen6336]

His energy makes me think of youtuber "uncle roger"

[@Boyzby]

I think there's a big difference in what I see for the black holes of WoW and XIV. People "never quit" the game because they like it and want to play it and talk with friends. I have to put that part in quotes, as most of my friends list hasn't logged in for several years. I can't quit for too long or I lose my house, but I also use breaks to play other games. On the WoW side, I see so many people just hate the game yet can't let go of it for whatever reason. And to a lot of them, it's their only game. It's an entirely different situation.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

WoW is the star wars fan situation These fans have been so invested for so long that their love has turned to hate But because youre desperate for it to be fixed you stay

[@fionamb83]

Me between patches: "THERE'S NOTHING TO DO" Also me: "Why haven't I finished my relics, my crafting resplendents, got the rest of my classes to 90, unlocked my hunt\mentor mount, ranked in pvp, levelled the alt I was going to raid with...?"

[@luiz8755]

+shared fates

[@DridriKon]

Not all content is meant for everyone. I don't like relic grind, I don't like Eureka/Bozja. It's okay. I have "nothing to do" while waiting for the next raid tier, as I have exhausted the content I'm interested in (and can find people to do). And, once again, it's okay to not do everything !

[@Shayera01]

@@DridriKon Say it louder for the people in the back. I think that when many folks - not even necessarily most, but many - say they have "nothing to do" in XIV, they mean they have run out of things that they LIKE to do. Example: I'm here for the MSQ and MSQ-tangential lore (like raids and role quests). I don't do roulettes, hard content, Gold Saucer, PotD/HoH, relics, none of it. So after every new patch, once I'm done with the lore-heavy stuff, I'm "done" until more comes out. My time between patches is spent hanging out with my friends and occasionally helping our sprouts. :D

[@catroll4247]

i feel like having my tin hat back on, cause i was screaming "YES DUUD" through the whole video xD

[@Dastreus]

Guild Wars came out after WoW, too. Not before.

[@branford_games]

"He 'fisted' the universe..." LOL!!

[@matthewtalbot6505]

RuneScape is the neutron star clinging to the edge of the system, imo. If you played it as a kid, it has a pretty strong pull itself

[@mrcattywampus1511]

Was not expecting an human anatomy, biology lesson as well as an astronomy lesson in one video talking about mmos xD

[@Kuroganemk2]

True I completed the last savage tier and took a break for over a month, but I'm still going to be there for 6.2

[@Sleepgarden]

can you imagine Rich from Red Letter Media and Zepla making each other laugh?

[@bravewolf5067]

I found ff14 by accident 10 years ago when returning Battlefield 3 to game stop and exchanging it for ff14

[@johnashby9660]

The OG black holes were Everquest and RuneScape

[@super_arcane_boy]

Everquest was the first black hole.

[@vermillionbunny7922]

FF14 sucked me out of the WoW Black hole's gravitational field, because I had orbited some Final Fantasy planets that were in the gamerverse before I was sucked into WoW. It's my fate to be in the FF14 black hole now, there is no way I can claw myself out.

[@kmurphy0620]

Arthars can be funny, but he really shows how much time he has on his hands, and is dying for an endless grind. Not a fan of the derogatory language used for people who feel for the story. It's fine to not get why someone would like a part of the game, but why criticize? He just needs to find a game that suits him. Has he played RuneScape? I'm told they have huge grinds there

[@vermillionbunny7922]

Oooooh yeah they do, It took me years to get my 99 slayer cape. I used to be a Runescape player for 7 years, but I got perma-sucked out of that black-hole by WoW and FFXIV. RuneScape is a formidable black hole though, not gonna lie.

[@BETAsin]

He didn't criticise it, he just said he doesn't feel the same way about the story as most people do.

[@kmurphy0620]

@@BETAsin he criticizes others reactions to it. Doesn't he call them simps in this video? I'm not going to rewatch.

[@ACEMLC-sx7dz]

Forget chuck norris. yoshi p is the new “god mode”

[@NinjaSquirrel30]

Final Fantasy To the moon!!! ❤

[@devinp2438]

EverQuest was the first black hole

[@cparty7790]

Zepla's ears really makes me a one floppy ear option for viera in game.

[@Bearclaw2003]

I never played WOW (GASPS) but I did play Ragnarok Online (Private Server now gone lol) and Star Trek Online (lifetime member). I "took a break" from FFXIV and played STO and RO for a bit for nostalgic reasons. Of course, that didn't last long. FFXIV's gravitational pull was too great 😀. FFXIV ❤️

[@Tsuna_SoulSilver]

I don't know man the Genshin Impact Black hole is even bigger than WoW and FFXIV combined and I can't get my friend out of it.

[@SquareGrills]

Josh Strife Hayes is our Lord, God, the Creator. He is beyond our petty mortal suffering.

[@MegaBusterDude]

I was the same way with Flyff. Well... till it killed itself. Then I started playing Pservers lmao

[@bobbylong5664]

Lmao double black hole madness

[@anydaynow01]

I can quit FFXIV whenever I want, really, I just choose not to 😅

[@Zoten001]

I quit WOW harder than Thor drops his hammer on someone. I will NEVER go back to that game.

[@rayndooma5624]

Does anybody know how to get the youtube thumbnail to show up in the video player, like how Zepla did it for Arthars' thumbnail in the end of this video? I can't find out how to do it for the life of me on google.

[@MrAngryMonkey100]

Pantheon: rise of the fallen wil be the next black hole

[@Fulgr1m]

TLDW: Zepla Cackles.

[@Tavor57]

brb grabbing my tinfoil hat

[@melissas4874]

I've been playing GW2 casually. I always play something that is not the most popular since I find it limits the player as a customer. There's a reason Blizz never felt the need to listen or improve - players made a choice to play no other games. Eventually, when YoshiP moves on (he will) FFXIV will go the same way as WoW if people aren't showing SE that they have other options.

[@louiskusters9452]

Pretty sure Yoshi P said he will stick with FF14 forever. He has in a way already moved on since 2016 or something when he started producing FF16.

[@UTO7]

I mean, the vibe I seem to get as that Yoshi P wouldn't have gotten where he was without the team of similar minded people he has, but I do think Squenix attributes the success to him, and kind of trusts them with the game as long as he's around. That's the issue with Blizzard, they got in the habit of too much corporate oversight, not enough letting the studio do their job and create a good game.

[@VioletElite4]

14:42 a lot of suction of holes going on

[@TheMeanAdmin]

There was a time when I played WoW and Eve Online. And if it wasn't Wrath - I would've prolly quit WoW to play Eve exclusively

[@kitkami]

Zepla have her ff14 blinders on.

[@Talsbynians]

I need a Hard Drive article written about regular gamers who don’t play MMO’s describing returning to old games they enjoy the same way mmo players describe returning to MMO’s. News flash, returning to play an mmo is the same as returning to play your old offline games. It’s not some unhealthy ex-girlfriend, it’s having healthy gaming habits And people wonder why the mmo genre has been fucked for so long lmfao

[@Myndi78]

My name is Rosend and I am an MMO addict. It has been 2 years since my last login.

[@Mike-hp7lv]

Here I am sitting here think "pssh, I can always leave" when I literally have taken 6 months breaks and still come back like I never left and start grinding

[@louiskusters9452]

well then you did leave for 6 months, right? Don't see anything wrong with just doing whatever you want and if you feel like playing just come back after a break.

[@Mike-hp7lv]

@@louiskusters9452 I apologize, I meant that as a self realization that I did leave and come back just like how they described, I think it's fine to leave any game and come back as you please as well

[@louiskusters9452]

@@Mike-hp7lv no need to apologize mate :D

[@avenoktys3253]

ashes of creation and riot mmo will be the third and fourth holes

[@blacksheepwall79]

I quit WoW due to health reasons it literally damaged my physical health and endangered my life

[@_Encie]

the "not a lot to do between patches" problem doesn't exist in GW2. And the reason for that is that GW2 is a game first and everything else second. FFXIV is super reward driven. Every thing you do in the game is for a mount or a piece of glam or story progrsssion AND content is always linear and is always done with one solution. I hope this gets adressed to some extent with the new dungeons. FFXIV needs more stuff like POTD or CC. Stuff that is just fun to play. Even PROPER jumping puzzles would be nice for a change. GW2 has an elaborate jumping puzzle for every map. Sometimes even 2. And every single one of them is miles better than Kugane tower. If there really was absolutely nothing to do, you can always do a JP. Or seasonal events is another example. GW2 has an even going right now, that has 2 separate areas with a plethora of activities and, yes, even rewards. I could go on about the great stuff GW2 has to offer. I feel like 14 is wasting so much of it's potential. rant over

[@ziongamer6905]

I think this is the start of their "just fun" content patches. At least I'm hoping. With the sanctuary and these criterion dungeons, I'm hoping we get more unique content. The constant events FF has is awesome but once you have all the items, what can you do? Just sell your rewards for money? That's nice but it isn't enough to push many others. The PvP is also just dumb fun now, which is also very good news.

[@LittleSparklingStars]

Sorry dude but gw2 gets so repetitive and boring after a while. It’s not a themepark mmo but after a while you’re just done with it. Playing FFXIV and WoW releases a lot of dopamine in your brain due to accomplishments and rewards you get. GW2 is not nearly as hardcore in the pve raiding scene, so while clearing is nice, you didn’t spend 100s of hours to clear so the impact isn’t as big. That is why Gw2 is a lot healthier to play casually while the other two are black holes due to being themeparks. It’s fun to go back to gw2 once in a while to have some fun in WvW, as your gear is still valid due to horizontal progression, but I couldn’t see myself play this game for a long time in sequence.

[@_Encie]

@@LittleSparklingStars your'e going off of a lot of assumptions here. I didn't write a word about raiding. All I ws saying is, that GW has a lot of low effort, hidden or obvious "mini games" in a way that FF doesn't.

[@LittleSparklingStars]

@@_EncieI was just making a statement rather than a counterpoint. That being said, though, jumping puzzles is really not that good of a downtime thing to do, even though the jumping puzzles in GW2 are quite well designed and fun to do. I've got really bad motion sickness so I loathe exploration type games as they make me feel sick. So yea forget me ever getting 100% on that map completion lol. That being said, I enjoy isolated minigames the way FFXIV does it the most. You can spend hours in the gold saucer and the best part is that I don't get motion sick playing the games. Though those get boring too eventually lol. GW2 is the perfect game to play on-and-off, it's fun but not addicting (unless it's pvp, that shit was hella addicting). Have been playing again currently, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do as I used to be avid with WvW and PvP. PvE confuses me, idk what I'm supposed to do :'). Just been doing the story but so far the personal story is kinda meh.

[@deusanti]

That is why all MMO players are looking for the next one. If you want current well developed content then you do only have two choices. WoW and FFXIV. Every year I starve for the next one to come out which is a never ending cycle. That is why there is soo much hype for any new MMO. Like now everyone I know is biting their nails waiting for Throne of Liberty that is supposed to release in the 4th quarter. It will be overhyped and then when it does finally release it will most likely fail our expectations. The expectations that it will be just like WoW or FFXIV from when we were teens or college kids with no responsibilities. We all got indoctrinated by these two games and it is a cult where membership can never be cancelled, well if you still play MMO's that is. I know right now we have couple of titles out there like Lost Ark but that is nothing like WoW or FFXIV. It won't draw people in for another 5 years like these two games will continue to do. Two Black Holes. Nice analogy!

[@tuqourdtzatli]

The only two games in existence. The pinnacle of mmo innovation.

[@yoloparrot42]

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[@tuqourdtzatli]

@@yoloparrot42?

[@Edge2177]

Next MMO is Runeterra MMO.

[@ramezhachicho1777]

Lol this is a big true. The only thing that really convinced me I'm never playing wow again. Was being sucked into ff14's black hole XD

[@Thunk787]

I love ff14, but I feel like I can't enjoy it enough without putting in more time than I can afford. So no, I don't regret quitting. It's the same with every MMO I've loved. That's why I'm so eager for Ashes of Creation; not only does it look great, but by the time it comes out I'll probably be retired.

[@adam.maqavoy]

0:37-1:33 Never. Stop. *Zepla* (God - i can't stop smiling) - At *Her Laughs* On another Note; Dang! He's Punny - So much *Truth & Facts!*

[@moonsnow4824]

You found the truth!

[@El_Legante]

Yandere WOW and Deredere FF14

[@OvrlordEtna]

my 2 black holes were FF14 and Runescape

[@ZeProblematicz]

Honestly, I quit both WoW and FFXIV. I can't stand either of them, once I realized I was playing 14 just to play something I couldn't keep going. They both lack the magic the world that existed in older MMOs. Everything being instance based, the open world being nothing but filler, and no real reason to interact with other players.

[@thursdayangelgummybear1513]

Can you tell him to stop selling me stuff on my TV at 3am in the morning 😝

[@dreadqueenquinn]

A lot of players went into the shadowlands and ended up in shadowbringers… maybe they are connected haha.

[@noOtherFs]

I don't know why but for some reason lately I notice Zepla's body language is starting to become more......Asmon-like

[@TheTrueAlucard]

Zepla🌹💜

[@JordanU375]

Couldn't disagree more with Arthars., there are plenty of MMO's that are better than WOW out there. I think what he really means is "there is nothing good enough to justify me investing my time in it rather than the game I already sunk time into".

[@Grundlebarmustache]

With all her pausing, she’s like Asmon Jr.

[@morteaux3662]

Next mmo? World of Final Fantasy

[@Poldovico]

This is clear Guild Wars 2 erasure.

[@FF-tp7qs]

I haven't unsubbed from FF14 a single time in the 7 years I have played for. I might take a couple weeks off and played other games (single player only) but I have never been dissatisfied with anything in the game, just a bit burned out from capping my weekly tomestones for multiple weeks in a row

[@Readerb86g]

Alternate Universe. The other Black Hole...EQ1 and EQ2 with GW2. You can dabble in others but, like my 69 alts in GW2 miss me so much, now that I'm sucked into the FFXIV black hole.

[@nogz01]

I'm free. Quit wow after 5k hours, quit FFXIV after 7k hours. Now playing BDO and not gonna come back to wow or XIV.

[@redeyes3847]

BDOMAGALUL

[@dragonboyexz]

You are still not free according to arthas diagram(holding in my laughter) you are only free when you quit mmo completely🤣.

[@pygmalionga529]

2 holes, same tunnel. ff14 being the mouth, wow is the a...

[@kazukinowa]

Used to play FF14, now im in the Lost Ark Flagpole since i adore the combat and legion raid design (im also a gacha addict). Im just waiting for FF14 release something to suck me back in willingly lmao.

[@LittleSparklingStars]

6.2 in end august is gonna steal my life.

[@sanddry738]

@@LittleSparklingStars Yeah I came back after a 2 mo. break and realized my WOL going to be forcibly retired to an island come late August

[@_Encie]

my sub ran out a few days ago and i didn't resub because i planned to do other things. I planned to come back for 6.2 ... but then I wanted to get the gorilla mount ... and i got weak and resubbed the first day i was unsubbed

[@googleifyouseekayu]

Well my blackhole is EverQuest. There is no WoW/FF14 without EverQuest. And I only have pitstops on WoW/FF14/ESO/SWTOR. Till sucked back into EverQuest. Repeat cycle

[@vintnerw1087]

So what is Genshin in this galaxy?

[@Deadman775]

I bounce from FF14, ESO, and Swtor

[@somnion5816]

DFO is bigger than both (well not the amrican servers of course)

[@Bboyred20]

So I QUIT vanilla wow back in the day for my GF at the time because it was taking so much time. but a decade later Classic pulled me back in for 3 months "till a teammate/hommie" had a mental breakdown at the same time as asmon and belular so i became a "WoW refugee" solo dropping into FF14 after literal years of thinking looks cool but may be boring/weeby/whatever. 1000 hrs later.....wait what? "1000 HRS LATER!!!!" i've beaten all FF14 content got 3 characters to max level all classes to jobs and all crafting to 30-50 and thought. Holy crap what happened. so i took a break.... and immediately started SWOTOR... Help i'm officially an MMO Andy!!😭😭😭

[@Bboyred20]

Also Arthar could have just had a well timed fart

[@hub1986]

Arthars is so awesome hehe

[@ex0stasis72]

I mean... this is only true for players who don't specifically look for classless MMOs like Eve Online...or...Runescape. Those are in their own galaxy separate from WoW and FFXIV.

[@Patrick_Engels]

Eh I don't really agree, You can for sure play other mmo's and not ffxiv or wow. I played so many MMOs in the past and only started/tried ffxiv and wow after 12 years of playing MMOs. ffxiv and wow are also very similar, they are both tap target, global cooldown, stroy driven theme park pve games. There is a completely different side to MMOs that is pvp focused sandbox-y games like archeage, new world and bdo. Also there are so many people who only play eso, or runescape, or as mentioned before bdo. And of course the people who would watch Arthars stream will agree with him because they are watching a ffxiv content creator, so they relate to that.