Zero Chiefs nominated for NFL awards, Burrow an MVP finalist, will Lamar win? | FIRST THINGS FIRST

[@FirstThingsFirst]

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[@IknowMoreThanYou]

They wanted the ball in Lamar's hands because it was snowing and they couldn't stop the run

[@Chiefs555]

"Stats matter to people with no Super Bowl rings." Coach throws down some facts.

[@kengregory9628]

Point to Josh when he say that

[@Jenkins2full]

It was a bar, but let's stop the cap....They matter to people during contract negotiations and incentive time lol

[@nsd_respect]

Lmaooo was that a jab at Lamar?

[@anblk44]

@@kengregory9628 its really wild to me that every day people become emotionally invested and go to war over media driven player narrative. You have two young men, who are worth hundreds of millions, playing the game they love for a living. Neither of them has declared war on the other and they both just put their heads down and work. Yet the media and fans make it some huge, personal battle between the two that doesnt really exist. Like MJ from his own mouth saying you cant compare him and LeBron you can only judge by era. And people still ignoring the words directly from his mouth and arguing on his behalf.

[@masterp2269]

​@@anblk44people don't like truth and logic

[@FFjean]

Bengals having 4 nomiations (most of any team) in MVP, OPOY and DPOY and not making the playoffs is crazy and what’s even crazier is that those selections are 100% valid

[@Me3ks89]

That’s how sick us WhoDey fans are with Zack Taylor… been backwards since the SB lost

[@wesa-nv7nu]

COMEBACK PLAYER OF YEAR ALSO

[@SShaBazzz]

Who in the world is DPOY on the Bengals. They literally had a historically bad defense.

[@marcosalexandre4044]

@@SShaBazzz But Hendrickson play great the secondary was so trash that if a QB have more than 2 seconds he could destroy their defense

[@jsmithers.]

​@@SShaBazzzYour big blàck mom 🤡

[@BasicBodThor]

Lamar being maybe a 3x MVP, with the most pro-bowl players in the League and getting bounced in the second round...I think people just think the Ravens are a lot better than they actually are. They get talked about like they've won multiple super bowls

[@jabarricharles-barnes658]

This this this

[@flyNsmoove]

@BasicBodThor The Ravens beat themselves 90% of their loses. THEY HAVE TO OVERCOME THAT!

[@RememberOldFashionedTrousers]

​@@flyNsmooveyeah they didn't actually play anyone. This is a true story

[@halloweentimemachine]

They don’t talk about them like they’ve won multiple super bowls because the team that HAS won multiple super bowls apparently doesn’t have any good players or a good coach. These awards are wild

[@RageDaug]

I tend to agree with Nick. At least some part of Lamar doesn't want to win the MVP this year. Every year he wins MVP and loses in the early rounds of the playoffs, the noise about him not being able to get it done gets louder.

[@kengy1991]

I really don’t know why leagues do not announce regular season awards in between the regular season and postseason. It makes no sense to me.

[@wardy4903]

Give Lamar his MVP before the playoffs start so when his annual crashout happens it's that much funnier.

[@georgeparker8198]

They do it purposefully they like the clicks and conversation.

[@kevinjones6009]

It gives them a chance to last minute flip flop

[@kammyr4082]

​@@wardy4903 it's only funny bc he's better than your qb...whoever you root for😂😂😂 There's nobody better in the NFL this year. The ravens also don't can't fkn win when it counts. 2 things are true.

[@xjudoflip7381]

10:54 MANGINI HAS BEEN ON FIRE THIS SEASON!!! WOW! That got me fired up. lmao look at Wildes face too hahaha

[@evillynx5796]

Facts!!!

[@InterMilton]

Still think its weird having so many pro bowlers on the team, and not getting the one seed. Derrick Henry as a HOF running back. And then having Lamar as MVP. Imo can argue if he was the best player, fine. But valuable is the key word. Who overcame more with less like most feel Josh did with Bills. Or changed a season like Saquon did with Eagles who fell apart last season.

[@kingmusa8618]

Played a tougher schedule

[@kingmusa8618]

And half those guys Lamar made a pro bowler zay flowers is average at best but he got the call

[@timocruz510]

@@kingmusa8618 This SOS argument has rarely ever been used before and Josh was better against the very best competition. 2-0 against 1 or 2 seeds Lamar was 1-2. Tho his Commanders win looking better now. Other than that it was Bills and a lot of 10 win teams tbh

[@atraina6921]

@@timocruz510Lamar was 7-3 against playoff teams Allen was 2-3. The problem with the Ravens is that they always hurt themselves… 3 turnovers in which two of them were self inflicted and a game tieing drop is unacceptable.

[@trevormatthews6518]

​@@atraina6921game-winning? It would have tied it w/Superman still having 1:50 and 2 timeouts to get within FG range. Then IF a stop, win OT too. Why does EVERYBODY keep saying "game-winning"?!

[@guccigucci676]

Andy Reid not ever winning coach of the year is insane

[@dfp_01]

He won once, I think in 2002. But since then he should've won at least 3 more times-2008, 2013, and 2022. I get why he didn't in 2008 and 2022, but if there was ever a time, 2013 was the time.

[@Ninjachickenfingers]

Kevin Stefanski has more coach of the year awards than Andy Reid

[@kleatise52]

That award sucks. All about who suprised you the most, not who coached the best.

[@TM3iii]

He should AT LEAST be nominated for coach of the year but I don’t think he should’ve won it. It has to count for something coaching the best team in basketball but I also think his past success as a coach goes against him to win an award like this when he’s been good, meanwhile these other coaches are being nominated for taking bad teams and making them good which I think catches a lot more voters eyes in general.

[@jianhkuang]

How can you win the coach of the year if you have the best quarterback ever play the game according Nick.

[@Eliasinez]

Andy Reid easily the coach or the year. To completely call a dink and dunk offense this year knowing he doesn’t have the elite allstars of the past is dope. His gameplan to play tough defense and keep away from all teams has been genius.

[@bobbyrebholz2183]

It's crazy that if the Bengals had just two more wins, they would've gotten into the playoffs and Burrow probably would've been a unanimous MVP winner. It wouldn't even be a discussion. He also doesn't choke like Lamar and Josh do.

[@JT-jh6go]

Nick is so right here. Allen should be MVP, also last year Josh had much better stats than Lamar yet the voter narrative wa”well ravens won more games”

[@sunnydays405]

He threw way too many picks, and his numbers were not nearly as good as Lamar’s this year. This argument keeps getting posted and it stays silly

[@tajcook3253]

He didn’t have much better stats he accumulated more stats lol

[@ChrisH421]

Lol you need to stop with that. Josh Allen finished 5th in mvp voting last year. Better stats? He had the second most int of anyone, and finished 16th in passer rating. If you want to argue that Josh should win this year ok but last year he was the last guy in the top 5 and you think he should have jumped not only lamar but 3 other guys as well.

[@ChrisH421]

BTW Sam howle is the only qb that threw more int than Allen last year.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

As the people mentioned here Allen threw way too many INTs last year if Lamar threw 15INTs this year you would have a point

[@KobyBrennero]

MVP Should be Saquon. 2000 yards, obviously elevated a shaky but competitive Team, had a few hundred receiving yards, and is clearly the eagles most valuable player. No RB will ever win it again if he doesn’t.

[@zackhurwitz9441]

Not behind one of the best offensive lines in football. It's not like when Adrian Peterson did it, and he was dragging a miserable Minnesota team to the playoffs... Despite the fact that they clearly didn't want to go 😂

[@tpjr1]

@@zackhurwitz9441So Saquon should be punished for having a good line)

[@zackhurwitz9441]

​@@tpjr1the good QBs seem to be punished for having a good supporting cast. Seems fair to me. Saquon often has 2-3 yards before contact. DeAndre Swift was top 10 in rushing behind Philadelphia's o line.

[@musicisfree91]

100%

[@hboy954]

Plus let’s not forget their receiving core too which help make sure that the defense can’t load up the box.

[@danielxcha]

Going 15-1 with the starters and Andy not even a finalist is a scandal

[@CTownBlack]

DIABOLICAL

[@arizonaFIREent]

Nobody stood out tho they barely won those games, nothing wrong with that I'll take winning 3-0 every game if that's what it takes but nobody played great enough for a regular season award.... the fact they went 15-1 while "barely winning" shows Reid should get some love tho because that's definitely great coaching

[@Aminah6623]

@@arizonaFIREent Stop creating weird criteria. 15-1 is 15-1. The point differential winners, the Lions, are home. GOH

[@jamesr2547]

Andy is a finalist though.

[@jamesr2547]

The five nominees for coach of the year are Andy Reid, Kevin O'Connell, Sean Payton, Dan Quinn and Dan Campbell. The title is misleading.

[@mildchaos6037]

Like I’m sorry, but no team should go 15-1 and have NOBODY up for nomination. Doesn’t have to win, but no nominees is just crazy. CJones and Andy should be nominees

[@Rosecain27]

Andy is. Did you watch the video?

[@shanyiasha]

Totally agree. Makes no sense to me😢

[@BraddyT]

Lmao I don’t think people realize this is going to cement Chiefs legacy even more. In the future the Chiefs will be remembered as a team that outperformed with no award winners

[@BraddyT]

You may not like it. But in 5 years, mark my words

[@erich8082]

​@@BraddyTits gonna do absolutely nothing to the legacy, it will make absolutely zero difference in any way.

[@lkhguycrazy]

If anything, in the future, people will discredit this half decade of the nfl because the Chiefs have won with hardly any player/coach awards

[@SneakySnake133]

They’ll be known as the most undeserved dynasty ever 💀 straight delusion from chiefs fans

[@dfp_01]

It's like the exact opposite of the 2012 team that had 6 Pro Bowlers and went 2-14

[@larry2281]

Last year they preached stats didn’t matter but now the stats are the main argument. Allen is the most valuable to his team and stat wise he also had that to back it up. Might not be good as Lamar’s but considering he sat over 2 games. I’d say they are pretty good.

[@DomKing96]

Allen was not going to win last year even if Lamar didn't win, so stop crying.

[@BCFDSAMURAI]

Allen had 22 turnovers that was 2nd to a guy that was a backup

[@Aminah6623]

Exactly.

[@Aminah6623]

@@DomKing96 The point is Josh has similar stats this year that Lamar had last year when he won and Josh has a better record, so do stats matter or not? Lamar can win MVP every year for all I care but let's not act like the award process is objective.

[@tonygonzalez9882]

@@DomKing96lamar didnt deserve it is what they are saying lmao. Dak or purdy deserved it

[@jeffreymayberry2496]

The Chiefs are like Bama a decade ago. You don't need to have any league best players if your whole roster is top 5ish in most category. The preponderance of talent overall will beat the teams with 1 or 2 great players. With the Chiefs, the sum of the pieces actually is more than the whole. That's how you account for the Chiefs being 15-2 and no one being nominated.

[@boromir2099]

Moneyballing to Super Bowl victories.

[@GoodyearSimp]

Preponderance…great word!

[@Bast_OE]

The Chiefs leading wideout is a rookie who ended the regular season with 600 yards and change. They signed one of their key backs from the couch, and lost receivers 1, 2, and 4, on top of their starting RB. I say all this to say their talent on offense is mediocre at best

[@dylanallen5653]

@@Bast_OE2 all pros on the o line, Pacheco kelce worthy dhop Hollywood is far from average

[@nxtro3882]

⁠@@dylanallen5653Pacheco hasn’t been good since week 2 Hollywood just got there kelce is 35 Dhop in year 14

[@endzhere1638]

0 ❤ for Spags. He delivers a defensive master-class every week.

[@lyleswavel320]

No better owner, general manager, scouts and head coach and defensive coach in the nfl than Chief's, best ran company in sports

[@centerfield8924]

The MVP award doesn’t mean anything because it’s just a qb stat award. It have nothing to do with who’s more valuable

[@jeneal7600]

Yes agree wholeheartedly! MVP should have been Saquon, Chris Jones, Derrick Henry or sone other non QB who moved the needle over and over for their team. It’s ridiculous that it’s become a QB award, they need to just call it Most Valuable Quarterback. There are also a lot of Offensive and Defensive players who should be making more $ than their QBs.

[@Los150]

Josh did the most with less if the word “valuable” is being voted upon by definition. But he most likely won’t get it. It’s become about popularity and flash.

[@Jamthecoolerator]

QB is the most valuable position.

[@cusetown_kickz3159]

@@jeneal7600 no other position should make more than the quarterback position! You gotta be trolling, the quarterback has the hardest job and deals with the most. And I’m talking about the best players at those other positions and the better quarterbacks in the league.

[@augustuscaeser5895]

@@jeneal7600Dak Prescott was injured and the cowboys imploded. Dak Prescott is not a top 5 qb. Chris Jones gets injured and the chiefs are a little worse. Quarterbacks are just simply a lot more valuable than other positions.

[@henrystreet6152]

How can Andy not be coach of the year when his team had a worse record last year, they dealt with key injuries throughout the year, and yet they ended up 15-1 during all the real games (the last game when everyone sat was irrelevant)

[@gavinbaskette4701]

The only person robbed was Spags for assistant coach of the year. No individual player was dominant for the chiefs. They just have a loaded roster with great coaching, the best defense in the league and won a lot of close games. Tell me who wasn’t nominated for an award on the chiefs who should have been

[@sabelodavid3127]

ANDY REID

[@gavinbaskette4701]

@ he’s a finalist for coach of the year

[@81suze]

That’s why the win. No big egos

[@omarandrade7524]

the best defense but no more than 1 probowler is crazy

[@williamallen7984]

“Loaded roster.” Oh? They have everyone’s castoffs at receiver. Apparently, we’ve been told all year Kelce is washed, Mahomes isn’t that good because his stats were bad. The whole point is that somehow they win, but none of their players were good enough for any awards. It’s like you completely missed the point

[@kcsniper1243]

Its crazy that Chris Jones has the Highest Win Rate of any D-Lineman by almost 12% and didn't even get nominated for DPOY. PS2 should be the clear winner but Jones should have at least been nominated.

[@jsmithers.]

No.

[@scottadavis8086]

Wasn’t even close to Trey Hendrickson. DA

[@tajcook3253]

Nick is so sneaky with his little Lamar can’t throw narrative. Baltimore didn’t punt lol this was not the AFC championship game where they got shut down offensively they gave the game away with dumb, self-inflicted, turnovers, and drops

[@mustermas]

I know the bills strategy really wasn't effective the ravens rushed for almost 200 yards and Lamar threw over 250

[@wardy4903]

Lamar does a great job of throwing to defenders and behind players who are wide open in the end zone to tie games.

[@mistfitsable]

he threw an absolutely ugly pick tf u on bout boy

[@CaNtHoNY127]

Would you be less impressed if Lamar’s two turnovers were punts instead? I’m confused

[@tajcook3253]

@@wardy4903 yeah because it would be such a luxury if Lamar could win games, throwing for yard curl routes all game

[@theScotian24]

Its Allens turn. Thats the truth of it. If Barkley gets it, we cant really put up too much of a fuss.

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

😂😂😂

[@desireerdawson933]

Lamar is winning it, I believe

[@Triggered_TV24]

So its about turns ?? Lol

[@Brisaloooooo]

Nick acting like Lamar is 42 with never another chance of a ring

[@erich8082]

Ever year he continues to get better in the playoffs, its only a matter of time.

[@JT-mj5ud]

Lamar will NEVER get past Mahomes, Allen or Burrow... I'd bet my house that Lamar never wins a Super Bowl let alone wins one... Lamar = James Harden

[@austin_madore9417]

No. But he constantly goes to the playoffs and loses. Why is there so many excuses for Lamar?

[@austin_madore9417]

@@erich8082lol ok bud. He’s been in the league for like 7 years and has 3 playoff wins

[@wardy4903]

@@erich8082 He's dak Prescott in the playoffs so far.

[@johngilley9815]

It's crazy how chiefs coaching doesn't get more credit for this season considering they ways they are winning ... They are team wins

[@AceBoogie_41]

They need to change the name of “MVP” to “Player of the Season” because people take the word valuable way too literal.

[@jimmysalinas682]

So is the definition of the word “Valuable” not to be taken literal? lol

[@augustuscaeser5895]

If they change it then maybe someone other than a quarterback can win it. Fwiw, Lamar losing a playoff game doesn’t change who was most valuable in the regular season. Burrow failing to make the playoffs does

[@missile87redefined25]

@@jimmysalinas682MVP has always been the best player in a season.

[@jimmysalinas682]

@@augustuscaeser5895 they aren’t going to change MVP. FWIW, Lamar had Henry on his team. Who did Josh have? Josh was obviously more VALUABLE to his team. MVP isn’t a stats reward it’s a MVP award. Take the words MVP literal.

[@augustuscaeser5895]

@@jimmysalinas682 i’d vote for Josh personally, but Lamar is a justifiable pick. Burrow isn’t.

[@bifnasty]

Joe Burrow being an MVP to a team that didn’t even make the playoffs…how valuable can someone be if you MISS the playoffs?

[@austin_madore9417]

Because his defense sucks. Burrow on the ravens would probably win the Super Bowl

[@larry2281]

@@austin_madore9417So Burrow’s late game turnovers wasn’t a factor on why they lost games? The slow starts to every seasons isn’t a factor? He came up short on multiple game winning drive opportunities.

[@devthehitman8689]

If you watched the games you would know how valuable he was

[@jacobmcklowski4428]

burrow is living off his single super bowl appearance his first year starting, done nothing since.

[@wardy4903]

Probably because he's created more wins than any other player in the league.

[@tigeratlas]

The chiefs are just a winning machine. They don’t make splash plays, they’re not break dancers. The league, media and juvenile fan bases are biased toward flash and hype. They have short little attention spans and are quickly bored of consistent excellence. They want toys and junk food.

[@JackBurton_86]

Thread winner 🏆

[@erikpuka2627]

Lamar should win it based on stats. Allen should win it based on film. If you watched them actually play. But if it was about Film - Brady would have won 17 by now.

[@EZR725]

^This is the one

[@zj4008]

If it was about film Lamar should get it too

[@erikpuka2627]

@zj4008 nah. Not even coose.

[@JT-jh6go]

It’s insane Lamar keeps getting MVPs at this point, has 0 pro bowlers; flails in playoffs. Allen is so discriminated against

[@nickbh15]

You’re not a victim lil sis

[@RD-zx6py]

@@nickbh15 is Lamar? Anytime anyone mentions his playoff record a whole bunch of fanboys leap to his defence and claim he's being hard done by.

[@parkinsaw]

......He did something no other qb has done. Sorry other candidates but......

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

Last year Allen would have won the MVP if he didn’t turn the ball over so much

[@babychief2879]

@@JT-jh6go none not lmaoo he recognized as top 5 it’s just QBs that’s better

[@__thebadger]

Last year, "it's not about the stats" This year, " "It's all about the stats" Just call it the black excellence award.

[@jordanjames403]

Since 1957 the nfl has had 18 black players win mvp in 66 years. So yeah it’s a “black excellence award” 😂 more times than not a white player has won MVP

[@dbl-j5185]

Wooooooaaah buddy. Calm down.

[@triggv602]

????? lamar played better football than him in both years. i like josh lol in my opinion he’s white people’s michael vick experience… and i would argue he should have an mvp … i also saw dree brees play ball his entire career and ho without one so its not the end of the world either way lol

[@dbl-j5185]

@@__thebadger black or white doesnt matter. Your statement is disrespectful, and you should be ashamed. Everyone is so sick of the race argument in politics already. Keep it out of sports you lobotomite.

[@chasingfelix3609]

Josh’s stats weren’t that good last year when you look at his turnovers.

[@rxflyfishing1316]

Winning a 3rd mvp and only having a total of 3 playoff wins is a travesty

[@PanicDonut86]

Dude loves his extended vacations

[@anenstor]

It's funny, if Lamar continues to win MVPs but underperforms in the playoffs and he never wins a SB, his regular season dominance would actually work against him legacy-wise when it's all said and done.

[@Money_era]

Im sure he still will be first ballot. Which is what his legacy will be

[@anenstor]

@Money_era Sure. A first ballot HOFer who played his worst football in the playoffs.

[@Money_era]

@ yeah.

[@scratchpenny]

@@Money_era He will, but his lack of wins will be held against him when it comes to the GOAT debate. He could never be considered the GOAT, no matter how many MVPs and individual awards, without at least one or two Super Bowl wins. He will be like Marino, and even he made it to the Super Bowl and lost.

[@EZR725]

​@scratchpenny I mean there shouldn't be a thought of including him in the GOAT even now. Forget the playoff losses and all that, he's just not anywhere close to a Mahomes when you watch.

[@Elias_Soto]

Would have loved to see Baker as a finalist. He had a better season than Goff considering injuries.

[@dawnparris6625]

The hate is so pathetic and real. The Chiefs are the epitome of teamwork and professionalism. Keep your eyes on the prize❤

[@Fonziggy]

Lamar isn’t the MVP because he’s the best throwing QB, it’s because he is one of the best throwing QB and has 900 rushing yards! Why do people pretend like the rushing yards don’t matter?

[@mustermas]

They ignore it to make their argument

[@zackhurwitz9441]

​@@mustermasAllen has had plenty of his own success as a rushing QB. First player in NFL history to have both 25 passing TDs, 10 rushing TDs and less than 10 ints in a season. 5 straight years of 40 or more tds.

[@greasemonkey3769]

He is good at throwing in more ways than one

[@jacobmcklowski4428]

allen has done this twice w both lamar jackson mvps.

[@oneg1970]

Lamar isn’t the MVP because he has the most rushing yards or passing yards or even TDs. It’s because he’s “authenticly black.” I’ve been listening to this garbage for the past 3 years. The MVP no longer means most valuable player. It’s officially a DEI participation trophy. I’d be embarrassed to be associated with it… Why else would they give it to the player who will be watching BOTH the conference championship game AND the SUPER BOWL from the same place he’s been watching it ENTIRE LIFE AND FOOTBALL CAREER…. HIS FLIPPING COUCH!! While the real MVPs of the game are playing in it!! 😂

[@Lovemate5571]

If it's bulletin board material for the Chiefs, than it sure as heck is for The Bills. Mc Dermott guided the team to the 2 seed in a "transition/minor rebuilding year". The Bills are the first team to rush and pass for 30 TD's as well. Cook had the same amount of Rush TD's as Henry and Gibbs (16) and isn't even on the Pro Bowl roster...

[@jrharrison5838]

Long live Houng Bi. 😅

[@ICYMIINMIY]

LLHB 🕊️

[@BackJack450]

We'll never forget

[@oopsisolditagain4191]

Putting Mahomes in the burrow spot would NOT be fine. Bengals don't win a game without Burrow. He averaged more in his losses than Mahomes scored all year. WINS ARE NOT A QB STAT! They are a team stat. If they change teams they probably have the same records.

[@hiphopotamus69]

Nick being a DT wins guy is an interesting development

[@ajashton7592]

9:10 stop it was Jalen carter

[@rusty4265]

The whole Lamar discussion is funny. He won the MVP last season by default because no one really ran away with it and all the other 'elite' teams had pedestrians at QB (Dak, Purdy). CMC shoulda won it last year and Allen this year. But no. Instead we'll get back-to-back Lamar MVPs, first by default and second one carried by Henry.

[@matthewwoodard9810]

I agree, except I think Saquon should win it this year (he won’t)

[@kisuryouri334]

cry more

[@goldencloud7527]

@@matthewwoodard9810 Henry had a better 2k yard season and didnt win it saquon wont

[@Finnissee0122]

A Qb with a 41-4 ratio with a 119 passer rating & 4k passing yards was carried by Henry lol ?

[@juniorrose5138]

Glad a sport show finally talk about OJ Simpson’s stats 😂

[@DZCARDZ]

If im voting. Here is who I got. MVP: Allen COY: Reid OPOY: Chase DPOY: Hendrickson OROY: Daniels DROY: Verse

[@austin_madore9417]

Barkley>Chase

[@johnnycampos1760]

Chase over saquon is crazy

[@209jayy3]

lol Hendrickson over Surtain?

[@robertwang5678]

You need two awards, one driven by stats and one by value. top tier performance player of the year and most valuable player of the year, two very different metrics. In the first, lamar, sequan, henry, burrow can be candidates, in the ladder, only josh and mahomes.

[@notayoutuber09]

Whoever is the editor of this channel is slow, step your game up!

[@dadillonful]

Touch some grass , so this wouldn’t worry you as much

[@notayoutuber09]

​@@dadillonfulno, but thanks though

[@09materialistic]

@@dadillonfulhey, he’s actually my friend, back off 😠🖐🏽

[@Erik-zu3nq]

I agree with you

[@jasoncain9602]

Or just watch it live and not worry about

[@ThunderWolfXIII]

Coach of the year is a award for a coach that turned a teams season around which is sad bc Andy Reid would win almost every year

[@fandom2082]

These award noms really make me want the chiefs to win the SB and three peat even more. All year they’ve been told how bad they are despite their record.

[@BackJack450]

If they do, people will just say it's because of the refs. And if they don't, it will be cause they're frauds and refs only got them this far. They're in a lose-lose in the eyes of most fanbases. Meanwhile, Bills either become the heroes or they lost cause "it's rigged for KC". Chiefs NEED to 3-peat this year for their legacy. Everybody is already trying to take away from them what they've done so far, so they won't get their credit unless they make history

[@zein9227]

To be fair, Harbaugh had said that they signed Henry exactly for the playoffs and then the Ravens didn't use him enough because the Bills stacked the box. They weren't prepared for a situation like that at all. Then they were unnecessarily aggressive with the 2pt conversion. They had no real game plan to beat the Bills, although they were moving the ball up and down the field. Even with all the TOs, they could've made a comeback.

[@Woods-k3y]

I think coaching is their problem but Harbough isn't going anywhere.

[@gelias2961]

Chris Jones is the defensive player of the year by far and a all-pro. He won by himself 2 super bowls, just watch the games.

[@sidney1234usc]

The MVP is for the most valuable player during the regular season. They need to stop trying to tie it in with the postseason regardless of who they feel like should be the MVP. Two things can be true a player can be the most dominating player in the league carrying their team to the playoffs while also choking in the playoffs. If y'all want to include the playoffs as a determining factor for MVP then that's fine they should change the rules. It's really that simple. Frankly I feel like the MVP should come from the team who wins the super bowl. 5:12

[@Erati243]

Lamar did great woot only 4 int's..... why does no one mention his 17 fumbles?

[@louiswatkins8046]

That’s even more reason for the CHIEFS to win the Super Bowl!!💪🏽💯

[@vortexathletic]

Chiefs haters think that the refs have done everything for them, that they don’t even have one Chiefs’ player as a reward finalist 😂

[@frankmusso318]

The real MVP should be PT15

[@MADNESS084]

Nick wright is the goat. Most accurate analyst in all of sports.

[@iismellgood]

Unfortunately, all of The Chiefs awards are going to The Refs.

[@milliworkz7069]

If you are commenting about officiating you have never played a single truly important sports game of your life.. you have never PLAYED at a high level..you may have rode the bench with a talented team but you never PLAYED WHEN IT MATTERED.

[@gregrizzo8054]

Hardly. Former players that are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame have done plenty of commentary on the marginal calls the Chiefs got against the Texans. Get a clue.

[@milliworkz7069]

@ cool talked about it sure… using it as an excuse or saying thats why the chiefs won 15 games this year ? NO. imma guess you road the bench too

[@RageDaug]

Josh Allen was a hair behind Lamar in raw numbers, and 5 points ahead of Burrow for QBR. You can't give Lamar 2 MVPs because of his legs, and now say, "legs don't matter this year". Almost every coach is looking for a QB who can run now. But when Josh does, you all want to ignore it.

[@RAJ_E3]

How is Andy not a finalist every yeat

[@MADNESS084]

Because it’s a sham and meaningless

[@alex170396]

Because everyone tell us that the chiefs it’s not that good, it’s ridiculous

[@MarvyG23]

He is a finalist this year

[@JackBurton_86]

Typically, it's who achieved the most with the least.

[@J_x2]

Personally I would give it to Saquon

[@brandonohara4122]

As a Bills fan, Andy needs to be coach of the year

[@jakerumble855]

Chris Jones not being recognised is crazy. Can line up anywhere along the line and ruins the plan

[@Gh0stH0use05]

Why is this being posted almost 4 hours after the show ended

[@jasoncain9602]

Because it’s a replay? Watch the show on the actual channel

[@davegardner6673]

It needs to be edited afterwards. Although it is likely lightly edited, it still takes time and the person who does the editing is likely working on numerous other things at once.

[@JP-kx2zj]

It's SO FUNNY that the NFL has resorted to the Great Black Hope for QB's 😂

[@boogitywoogity248]

Lamar actually has an advantage with the voters, not a disadvantage, any criticism of Lamar is viewed through a race lens instantly. The moment you criticize Lamar, all the reporters get scared and their brains go back to the running back jokes and they get so spooked they’ll give him 50 MVP’s in a row.

[@zein9227]

No, it's not. It's you who sees it through that lens. Lamar had an all-time season on par with Peyton and Rodgers. He's still not the MVP, though. It' Barkley.

[@andrewlopez5153]

I don’t understand how do you think they got the MVP wrong? Lamar wins it hands-down he’s the only quarterback to ever throw for 41 touchdowns 4100 yards passing with almost 1000 yards of rushing first time ever witnessing something like this. Definitely he MV3 Josh Allen only had 3700 yards passing 500 yards rushing with more ints then Jackson! Lamar Jackson MV3🏆🏆🏆

[@darryljones890]

Nick is acting like this is Lamars last season 😂

[@RD-zx6py]

MV3 is an all time choke artist but his fans won't have a bad word said against him.

[@babychief2879]

@@RD-zx6pyMV3 don’t be mad lmaooo best QB in the league he’ll get his SB run

[@anenstor]

Every year it's the same narrative with Lamar. He's the best he's ever been. But it's never good enough. And it most likely won't ever be. Mahomes and Josh aren't going anywhere. In fact, these are probably the worst teams the both of them will have for quite some time.

[@RD-zx6py]

@babychief2879 I'll believe it when I see it.

[@davidpetrosky]

​​@@RD-zx6pyYou guys are unbelievably arrogant. You don't want anyone to defend him, huh? Your attacks should go unopposed? Name the thread. On any platform. Involving any sport. On any athlete. Where there won't be fans defending said player. Making arguments to support them. Debating detractors. Not how it should be, huh? Everyone should despise who you do? Join you in vilifying them? Expecting everyone to see the world through your eyes, on all things? Good luck with that. Lmao

[@Johnny.Demonic]

Nick wondering how the ChRefs won so many games is funny, but he's got point. Somebody should be nominated from a one loss team.

[@brianminkc]

It will make a good storyline when they are the first team in NFL history to 3 peat and how they were shunned for the awards.

[@zein9227]

Last year's MVP was Christian McCaffrey and this year's MVP is Saquon Barkley. They carried their teams. I understand that QB is the most important position but MVP is not OPY. There's a true need for a QB award ("Golden Arm" or whatever).

[@nineteenvegas]

It’s a regular season award and we just need to accept that. The NFL Playoffs are one and done, the variance that can happen in a game doesn’t dispel the body of work for a full 17 game sample size.

[@Redsweeper333]

It's simply overwhelming Chiefs Fatigue, Nick. Don't overthink it. Sorry, it happens buddy.

[@Kidkinsey]

That put the ball in Lamar's hands tactic isn't even a great plan because he had nearly 300 yards. The ball in Lamar's hands isn't why they loss he was MONEY in the 4th quarter

[@mustermas]

Yeah they literally almost lost with that strategy

[@chrisgreene3868]

But didnt

[@trevormatthews6518]

Everyone should be sick of the 2 egregious turnovers don't matter because it was in the 1st half take. It's just silly. It set them back and changed the game plan. They would've/should've run waaay more. It gifted the Bills 7 points, not to mention precious time of possession where their offense isn't scoring and keeping their D on the field.

[@joesebol1425]

It wasn't the 4th quarter strategy. It was the whole game strategy. And it worked. Same will be done against the Eagles this week.

[@bauer_lives5196]

lol he threw a pick and fumbled and the bills won the game, what are u talking about, that is why they lost 😂

[@dylanallen5653]

Cheifs have the best defensive coordinator and coach in the league

[@rodrigozorzano7902]

So you are 15-1 team and dont have a Pro Bowl..... , the voters are stupid.

[@MADNESS084]

It’s just blatant jealousy. They hate cuz the ain’t us.

[@erich8082]

They do have pro bowlers though..

[@bill-to7ir]

Go by stats and don't worry who says mahomes won't be in probowl. If he gets beat sun he will be lol and besides when was the last time you seen a probowl lol. Don't exist no more. .

[@richmle]

Running Backs are straight up disrespected in the NFL.

[@nunoalvarespereira87]

So, Josh Allen is the only All-Pro on the Bills team and he's not even 1st team, only one more Pro Bowler other than him (Dion Dawkins), his coach isn't even a finalist for COTY, the Bills beat the 2 1st seeds of each conference and made it to the AFCCG. But, somehow, he isn't the most VALUABLE player in the league? Either the Bills practice magic and win games by pure chance alone, or something else is at play here... 🤷‍♂

[@blessingjohnson7541]

They play the jets , dolphins and patriots every year. Six free wins lmao.

[@nunoalvarespereira87]

@@blessingjohnson7541 Broussard projected the Bills to finish 3rd in their division. Besides, they played the Chiefs, Lions and Ravens as well.

[@blessingjohnson7541]

@@nunoalvarespereira87 doesn’t matter. They lost to the ravens during the regular season and the raams. How can they not be the number one or two seed when they get six easy wins every year because their division is horrible

[@nunoalvarespereira87]

@ You just don't know ball, you're a Lamar fangirl and an anti-White hater.

[@andrewstokes6623]

@@blessingjohnson7541 6 free wins? Tua is still a good QB when he's not getting concussed, Pats are that team you never know what you get from em and they made hard work of the Jets in week 5

[@AB-im4vs]

I just think it’s funny that we shouldn’t give the mvp to a guy who hasn’t made it to the Super Bowl and since it’s close the other guy who hasn’t made a Super Bowl is the most deserving

[@BensonSiong]

love this as motivation for the kingdom!

[@Elias_Soto]

We are two segments away from discussing how Mahomes getting a bad haircut actually improves his chances

[@mrjdgibbs]

When has Mahomes EVER had a GOOD haircut. My god, have you accidentally found the source of the devil magic?

[@jeremimi]

Boo hoo chiefs. Maybe they should’ve given the mvp to the refs

[@damianclark2080]

Cry Hard 2: Cry Harder

[@vincebato4129]

Casual

[@Jackie1002]

"Boo hoo" lol. Evidently, you're the one that's crying.

[@DSincere]

Change your diaper

[@javiersanchez2363]

🤡

[@TheNostalgiaFiend]

The constant, that has brought consistent success....and the ability to 3-peat....is Reid, Spagnuolo, Mahomes, Kelce, and Chris Jones. Open your eyes ppl

[@ravengreven902]

Sooooo we’re just gonna pretend that Andy isn’t up for COY? Your entire production team couldn’t be bothered to do a quick Google search?

[@JustinColumbie]

As an eagles fan Andy should 100% win coach of the year

[@InDepthAnalYsis93]

8:23 the refs

[@kingad8869]

Cope

[@omenkanwasoria1952]

Gonna cry?

[@antuanwebb6994]

Give it a rest

[@jamesdawny1855]

That is moving the goal post nick. You can't say this guy isn't doing good in the playoffs so we gonna let it affect regular season lol

[@davidberry777]

Andy Reid is Coach of the Year

[@JT-mj5ud]

Literally every year !!!

[@austin_madore9417]

Nope

[@davidberry777]

@ so, the Chiefs had the best record in the NFL in 2024, the best record in franchise history, won the AFC West banner for the 9th consecutive year, and secured home field throughout the playoffs in week 17 after playing one of the most difficult schedules being (now) one win away from a shot at winning THREE SUPER BOWLS IN A ROW, and THIS all done with nothing more than an all-pro left guard, an all pro center and an all pro defensive tackle... How can Andy Reid NOT get AP Coach of the Year? Somehow, this team is filled with middling players that won week after week. This team won with great defense, game-changing special teams and an offense that scored just enough points every week to win more games than any Chiefs team in 59 years. How? Three aspects for every game that Andy Reid has coached to a 15-win season... 1. Ball Control 2. Field Position 3. Crunch Time Clock Management Four things the Chiefs have done better than any other team... 1. Penalties per Game 2. Crunch Time Defense 3. Crunch Time Offense 4. Crunch Time Special Teams COACHING

[@jasonkitchen3877]

Andy Reed has always been one of those head coaches who can get teams to the playoffs on a consistent level.. Every time Andy Reed is ever had a good quarterback he is playoff bound.

[@DSincere]

The NFL would be so boring without the Chiefs. Everyone either loves them or hates them while the league just keeps making more money than ever.

[@RD-zx6py]

I wouldn't hate them if it wasn't for the officials. It was the same for the Pats. You can't keep watching a team getting a friendly whistle and not have it become very annoying. They're good enough that we don't need the deck further stacked in their favour.

[@MADNESS084]

Deal with it.

[@brandoncrockett9266]

But are we really going to act like we’ve never seen a successful, dynastic team be polarizing? Not just in the NFL, but across all sports leagues? It’s not a new phenomenon

[@brandoncrockett9266]

And the NFL is NOT the NBA. The Shield is MUCH bigger than any one player or franchise. If the Jaguars somehow became the next dynasty over the next handful of years, the league would STILL make money hand-over-fist. It’s not like the Chiefs have always been the center of the NFL’s universe. Same goes for the Pats before them. This stuff is cyclical

[@austin_madore9417]

You’re joking right? Life would be better without the chiefs

[@bnellyneeley8468]

The Bengals deserve CPOY with burrow, OPOY with chase because of the triple crown and it's a throw for DPOY because of Hendrickson having the most sacks but can also be a different position for another reason

[@haven2moses556]

Yeah I agree KC's refs should be MVP this season

[@uhhmon319]

Coach with the HEAT

[@mikeelton3686]

Good question on the mvp splitting, I was wondering about that

[@Lovemate5571]

Winning a MVP award is NEVER an embarrassment. NEVER! No matter what you do in the playoffs later that year, because it only attests to the fact, that you have been the most valuable player for your team DURING the REGULAR season. Nothing more but certainly nothing less. Are you satisfied to win a MVP title and and then exit in the first round of the playoffs? Certainly NOT! But to call it an embarrassment is ludicrous and totally absurd.

[@tylerdodd55]

I'm a bills fan and I cannot believe the first seat did not get a single award

[@jacobuzlyan-bc2nc]

The voting for these awards is a complete JOKE

[@brotherpaulv]

Superbowl MVP is a much more prestigious award than league MVP because it's a lot harder to win, it has a smaller pool of candidates, and it's not a popularity contest for ignorant sports reporters to yak incessantly about.

[@Finnissee0122]

No it’s not. It’s harder to win mvp over a 17 week season. You only need 1 game to be SB mvp.