Zero-interest loans? This is how it is possible; Islamic Finance explained - Ibrahim Khan

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Islamic banking prohibits interest on loans, said Ibrahim Khan, Co-Founder of IslamicFinanceGuru and Partner at Cur8 Capital. He explained how Islamic banking works, as well as how Islamic law views stocks, bonds, gold, and cryptocurrencies. He spoke with David Lin, Anchor and Producer at Kitco News.
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0:00 - What is Islamic Finance?
6:54 - Consumer credit
9:17 - Islamic mortgages
13:40 - Trading and Derivatives
15:27 - Levered buyouts
16:52 - Geography of Islamic banking
19:15 - Economic growth under Islamic finance
22:15 - Assets
26:26 - Islamic central banking
29:13 - Cur8 Capital
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@bearishbull2769
@bearishbull2769 Жыл бұрын
Slightly unfortunate that his T-Shirt seems to read failure! But on a serious note I think the whole idea behind not charging interest is to ensure the one who has no money can get fair access to loans or enter into business without becoming a debt slave to the one who does have money. We in the West are debt slaves, it's ingrained into the system and that's part of the reason why the rich get richer every year and the poor get poorer.
@saminaffi3177
@saminaffi3177 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@carefreepuggle2408
@carefreepuggle2408 Жыл бұрын
👏
@domjohnson2579
@domjohnson2579 Жыл бұрын
You can't complain about being a debt slave by VOLUNTARILY taking someones money then complaining you have to pay it back with interest. Interest is the most moral system of all. You want to use someones money for free??
@domjohnson2579
@domjohnson2579 Жыл бұрын
@@subarcticelectronic9885 The way I see it there is no problem. the west has no problem as far as I see. Private businesses and individuals can lend to people and borrow as much as you want but when it comes time to pay you are on your own. The only problem I see if there is one is the government sticking their idiot noses to steal from one responsible person to bail out an idiot. Government debt is the only real problem. that causes inflation, and real pain.
@Scope25
@Scope25 Жыл бұрын
T-shirt says 'Failures not an option' Just so you know.
@tonebonetones
@tonebonetones Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, usury was banned not only in Islamic banking but also the Catholic Church considered usury a sin, and even in ancient Greece and Rome it was outlawed. Interesting also how it is now rife in western countries since the turn of the 20th century, is it not?
@taariqshafie5289
@taariqshafie5289 Жыл бұрын
Islamic banking is essentially God's system. The non interest system is common amongst all abrahamic faiths. It's desogned to keep everyone in equal playing fields. The first group of ppl I believe to introduce interest were the knights Templars. Successfully creating today's banking system. Designed to keep the rich wealthy and the rest poor. An enslavement system.
@LB-jw3ly
@LB-jw3ly Жыл бұрын
It is permitted in Judaism and this is where the stereotype of the bankers being Jewish came from. For centuries Christians used Jews as the intermediary to charge interest without getting their own hands dirty.
@ronelljenkins9712
@ronelljenkins9712 Жыл бұрын
So it INTREST, but with extra steps. We front load interest, but call it a Muslim word.
@jamsie008
@jamsie008 Жыл бұрын
its all about the risk and ownership, this guy explains it pretty easily...
@chrisgalvin8472
@chrisgalvin8472 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting presentation and straightforward answering of the questions. Terrific diplomatic and respectful questions by David. Most informative.
@josephpeeler5434
@josephpeeler5434 Жыл бұрын
This only works if gold and silver are money, because their purchasing power increases in a free market. So, 0% interest can only work if the purchasing power of the money increases over time. This can't work with inflationary paper or central bank digital currencies, because they will always be debased.
@jlongestever
@jlongestever Жыл бұрын
Bitcoin
@josephpeeler5434
@josephpeeler5434 Жыл бұрын
@@jlongestever Bitcoin is a digital token. A free market money must be a commodity first. Its commodity price becomes its money price. A market money must have non-monetary utility *first*, else it can never arise as money to start. See Mises' Regression Theorem of Money.
@mcata3625
@mcata3625 Жыл бұрын
Yes. It's difficult to work this within a Jewish financial system
@josephpeeler5434
@josephpeeler5434 Жыл бұрын
@@mcata3625 "Jewish" Okay, anti-semite. The school of economics that advocates a gold and silver based monetary system is the Austrian School. The leading figures in that school are all Jewish. If we had gold and silver money that gains in purchasing power over time, then 0% interest rates are possible.
@tauqeerhussain3586
@tauqeerhussain3586 Жыл бұрын
That's actually accurate. Gold and Silver are the main currencies in Islamic practice.
@abddu1
@abddu1 Жыл бұрын
why not invite Harris Irfan or Safdar Alam for a holistic re-run on the topic? our problem in Islamic finance starts with the definition of currency itself.
@lotfyken2759
@lotfyken2759 Жыл бұрын
Best thing about islamic finance is that gold is money and gouvernement has no involvement in money whatsoever
@megasc0rcher
@megasc0rcher Жыл бұрын
instead we have yewish finance
@neonovalis
@neonovalis Жыл бұрын
Obviously "islamic fincance" is not applied in islamic countries ...that is why most muslim countries are failed states (unless they have a lot of crude oil to sell). Turkey 80% inflation ... Libanon, Iraq, Syria, Somalia ... failed states all over the place ... "islamic banking" might be sound ... but the faschist ideology (Quoran aka Islam) behind it - is not sound at all.
@pentoo988
@pentoo988 Жыл бұрын
The recent actions of Turkey’s government has proven your statement incorrect.
@neonovalis
@neonovalis Жыл бұрын
@@pentoo988 hmmm has Turkey now a normal inflation rate of 2% ... I have not heard that - so far. They have a fanatic government (ie a Turkish pop singer was arrested for making a joke about religious schools). Turkey might not have "islamic banking" .... but I doubt that "islamic banking" is superiour to other forms of "banking" .... because everywhere where "islam" is involved there is corruption.
@rainerkromarek5042
@rainerkromarek5042 Жыл бұрын
Well explained. Thanks!
@FallofAm
@FallofAm Жыл бұрын
Back door interest and calling it Islamic is a sin.
@Bwnasty7
@Bwnasty7 Жыл бұрын
I am super impressed by Kitco. I’ve heard of this decades ago yet no one ever covered it. it’s an interesting method of finance. Not saying I would use it, but it’s good learning about other cultures of finance. We can all take a page from each other
@carmangeek8882
@carmangeek8882 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like just semantics.
@thirddude244
@thirddude244 Жыл бұрын
and you sound just like a common anti human
@ginacardarella
@ginacardarella Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you for having this interview almost apples for apples but with a little twist
@someguy4194
@someguy4194 Жыл бұрын
Instead of interest, you need to give up two goats. There may also be "service fees" that magically work out to the same amount as the interest would be 🙃
@Kitten_Stomper
@Kitten_Stomper Жыл бұрын
Agreed, interest is a natural occurring part of lending. It's basically the "price" of borrowing.
@tonebonetones
@tonebonetones Жыл бұрын
Nice try, but nope. The 'fee' for any loan from a non usury bank is considerably less than the scandalous interest charges of usury.
@Kitten_Stomper
@Kitten_Stomper Жыл бұрын
@@tonebonetones there's no such thing as usury. It's just an idea that dumb people made up.
@tsyhll
@tsyhll Жыл бұрын
Basically like scalping. Buying something and selling it for higher price without adding any value.
@standardcolorrehab
@standardcolorrehab Жыл бұрын
Semantics. I will not loan you the money at 25% interest but I will mark up the item 25% and sell it to you.. It's the same thing.... And if all of the penalties and interests go to charities there is no reason to loan money. I guess I just do not understand.
@huwhitecavebeast1972
@huwhitecavebeast1972 Жыл бұрын
You definitely don't.
@rosewildbill6368
@rosewildbill6368 Жыл бұрын
U'r right ✅️
@bodrulm1
@bodrulm1 Жыл бұрын
Agreeing a fixed fee upfront is totally different to paying interest that is often variable and unknown. Technicalities make all the difference.
@filmmakeramal
@filmmakeramal Жыл бұрын
Great topic! 😄 Happy you guys did this
@momonael6890
@momonael6890 Жыл бұрын
Islamic finance banking is the best model for the finance today system to avoid the interest that burdens the people financial needs and avoid them fall in interest black hole and this this work also for international finance systems
@abea8415
@abea8415 Жыл бұрын
the objective of the islamic position on interest is to prevent the needy of being abused with high interest rates from the more well off. It is very debatable if the interest we commonly know today, like bank mortgages, is the same type of interest that was concerned by the original islamic negative view on interest. religion is there to make life easier, not harder.
@cozyandahalle
@cozyandahalle Жыл бұрын
In Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice, Antonio lends money on a similar basis.
@ougmass
@ougmass Жыл бұрын
The interest rate is the cause of many economic crisis, performance failures, and suffering for most segments of workers and professionals. Islam promotes and values income that is resulting from useful work, and offers reward commensurate to effort coupled with a well calculated risk taking, and responsible behaviour at both the private, social, and public interest levels. That is why it prohibits receiving money on money just by counting time, and rating the risk of the borrower, without exposing the lender to the operational risk of the business it has financed, or invested in. The Islamic finance aimes at rendering all the stakeholders in a specific project or transaction to be responsible for its outcome. Which is an incentive to maximise management care and efficiency, and ensure an equitable distribution of risk and its utmost mitigation.
@hassannasir4979
@hassannasir4979 Жыл бұрын
So many hate comments. No one is forcing y'all to adopt it. lol. He is just explaining how it works.
@abukalidh613
@abukalidh613 Жыл бұрын
This show’s how open minded people we have lol..can’t think financial system without interest..fiat system corrupted and brain washed
@heatherjones4707
@heatherjones4707 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? I thought it was interesting.
@SamsungS-or1qf
@SamsungS-or1qf Жыл бұрын
Imagine reading a book that was written thousands of years ago by an uknown author, then choose to live your life by this book, MINDBLOWING.
@saeidyazdani
@saeidyazdani Жыл бұрын
Yeah look at all these flourishing Islamic countries!!!
@bulmaromontoya3555
@bulmaromontoya3555 Жыл бұрын
If Islamic banking works why all Islamic banking sistem is broken
@mattg8431
@mattg8431 Жыл бұрын
EU banking system must be all sharia then, ECB has been running negative rates for years
@kso808
@kso808 Жыл бұрын
It seems like the Islamic bank business model is needlessly complex, despite its end goal virtues. The examples of the pencil and rents come to mind.
@craigthebrute7929
@craigthebrute7929 Жыл бұрын
Its basically just equity financing. Not really any more complex than bonds.
@888strummer
@888strummer Жыл бұрын
@@craigthebrute7929 It's ridiculously complex compared to borrowing $10,000 with a 5% loan
@craigthebrute7929
@craigthebrute7929 Жыл бұрын
@@888strummer OK, attracting venture capital is a little more complex than selling a bond. At least the economy is immune from the boom bust credit cycle.
@888strummer
@888strummer Жыл бұрын
@@craigthebrute7929 Our boom bust is horrible, but so is the Federal Reserve who is so clueless and helps to cause many of these boom/busts.
@klauskarpfen9039
@klauskarpfen9039 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever read through the conditions and terms for a "regular" credit?
@kazaabitboll2026
@kazaabitboll2026 Жыл бұрын
Judaism pre dates Islam. It is written in the Torah that loans to family members cannot be charged interest. I do not think that the principles from non democratic countries should be applied to the greatest democratic nation in history. Stop adopting or even being interested in this. Should we also all don burkas and eat halal ? Maybe our dress code entering the Muslim bank will require such measures.
@khalidbinreaz8039
@khalidbinreaz8039 Жыл бұрын
Subtitle plz
@masteryoda9044
@masteryoda9044 Жыл бұрын
So is "proof of stake" allowed in Islamic banking or is it only "proof of work" ?
@madestone9725
@madestone9725 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@yeslion333
@yeslion333 Жыл бұрын
Proof of stake payments are transaction fees for authorizing a block. Its not a loan
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ Жыл бұрын
Proof of capital
@myislamicpersonalfinance
@myislamicpersonalfinance 9 ай бұрын
Nice 👍
@davidcollins8150
@davidcollins8150 Жыл бұрын
fucking semantics - some say tomato others say tomaato - it's interest in the end
@SolomonTheStoryTeller
@SolomonTheStoryTeller Жыл бұрын
Guess you didn't hear the part where if there is a penalty for late payments, known as compound interest, that money goes to society and not the bank
@domjohnson2579
@domjohnson2579 Жыл бұрын
@@SolomonTheStoryTeller No he heard it but it doesn't make it less ridiculous.
@marekkolenda2803
@marekkolenda2803 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately right
@SolomonTheStoryTeller
@SolomonTheStoryTeller Жыл бұрын
@@domjohnson2579 ridiculous when taking compound interest and providing that money to the poor instead of making the banks richer?
@taariqshafie5289
@taariqshafie5289 Жыл бұрын
Lol explain how it's interest?.
@HandleThatIsNowTaken1
@HandleThatIsNowTaken1 Жыл бұрын
Short selling banned, I like this
@rogerburn5132
@rogerburn5132 Жыл бұрын
That's why J P Morgan is NOT in the middle East 😜😜
@dgoullet1
@dgoullet1 Жыл бұрын
An example with buying a house would help
@gort3969
@gort3969 Жыл бұрын
I bet if there was some checking done they would find a lot of corruption.
@sarchmaster5779
@sarchmaster5779 Жыл бұрын
More than anywhere else though? Corruption is a global problem.
@gort3969
@gort3969 Жыл бұрын
@@sarchmaster5779 corruption is a human problem
@martinb4093
@martinb4093 Жыл бұрын
Good interview but no CC
@LB-jw3ly
@LB-jw3ly Жыл бұрын
The problem is where do these Islamic financial institutions get their original reserve from? Federal Reserve or interbank lending?
@nahlho1807
@nahlho1807 Жыл бұрын
If the borrower defaults, under Sharia law and ISIS rules, is the penalty a beheading or hands chopping?
@domjohnson2579
@domjohnson2579 Жыл бұрын
I believe it is actually. I doubt any lovers will admit it though.
@chafikab7547
@chafikab7547 Жыл бұрын
ISIS rules are set by CIA and people like you
@rogerburn5132
@rogerburn5132 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows BUT something from your body will be missing 😜😜
@TheebX92
@TheebX92 Жыл бұрын
😂
@rosewildbill6368
@rosewildbill6368 Жыл бұрын
...yes, the quran says that, too
@Oneiromaniac
@Oneiromaniac Жыл бұрын
Aside from BTC & ETH, interesting that HBAR & FIL were at the forefront of his example. 😏
@Blackplumber333
@Blackplumber333 Жыл бұрын
Hold gold and silver and be your own bank Islamic system sounds like honest banking. There should be one in every country.
@theinvestmentabc6245
@theinvestmentabc6245 Жыл бұрын
It isn’t even practiced in one of the Muslim countries. How do you expect to see it in any country lol
@recession-rq8fd
@recession-rq8fd Жыл бұрын
Interesting info. First time I ever heard of this
@anverk
@anverk Жыл бұрын
Is this still riba in another guise or is the finance really sharia compliant? Not so sure.
@jc7887
@jc7887 Жыл бұрын
10 dollar pencils? What kind of hyper inflation you got going on in your country?
@tash0608
@tash0608 Жыл бұрын
he just gave u a example...i think u were sleeping lol....
@mcata3625
@mcata3625 Жыл бұрын
He's in UK
@5fmuke535
@5fmuke535 Жыл бұрын
Will it blow up like Celsius 🤔🤔🤔
@benjamin593
@benjamin593 Жыл бұрын
I get it... in Sharia compliant non-interest loans, the government gets the interest for its special interest groups. Thanks for clearing that non-interest system up for us.
@Al-yu6bq
@Al-yu6bq Жыл бұрын
Exactly, socialism
@CA213FAN
@CA213FAN Жыл бұрын
@@Al-yu6bq yup this shit product ain gon work in western capitalist societies. Ban these socialist religious products from US and EU markets.
@khadarm1884
@khadarm1884 Жыл бұрын
Wrong! Government is there to be a referee in a free market system under Islamic sharia economy
@odarboe
@odarboe Жыл бұрын
For clarification. That was just his opinion. In an Islamic State, the Government will never take any type of interest. That is fundamental.
@huwhitecavebeast1972
@huwhitecavebeast1972 Жыл бұрын
@@Al-yu6bq Not at all.
@afterdark6822
@afterdark6822 Жыл бұрын
We have Jewish finance in the U.S.
@Mystictalal
@Mystictalal Жыл бұрын
When it comes to loans, Islamic banks are not any different from any other commercial bank. At the end of the day, if you take a loan out of an islamic bank you're going to return the same amount + interest as any other commercial bank. By the way, you don't have to be a muslim to open an account there. It's just a bank.
@taariqshafie5289
@taariqshafie5289 Жыл бұрын
True Islamic finance would not operate as such. The "interest" that might be seen. (Ex. You want to buy a car for 20k and the Islamic bank buys it for you but essentially sells it back to you for 25k allowing you to pay it off slowly. They make 5k off the deal) this is a form of business transaction and not interest. "Allah has allowed trade and forbidden interest" (2:275-276).
@Chootempaw
@Chootempaw Жыл бұрын
@@taariqshafie5289 you're describing how interest works. It's the same thing. You're just playing semantics.
@thirddude244
@thirddude244 Жыл бұрын
@@Chootempaw and you are just playing like a common anti human ''cc'' LOL
@taariqshafie5289
@taariqshafie5289 Жыл бұрын
@@Chootempaw lmao 🤣. So if you took a car loan out at 20k with 6% interest over 5 years that would equate to roughly 6k in interest. Now if you decided not to pay and you had 15k left on the loan that payment is increasing 6% everytime you don't pay it. In Islamic finance that doesn't happen.
@roberthannah7983
@roberthannah7983 Жыл бұрын
@@taariqshafie5289 Not true according to the speaker, there is a penalty but it is given to charity.
@lynnybee888
@lynnybee888 Жыл бұрын
Very much enjoyed this interview. I’ve been to Egypt, DUBAI and ABU DHABI. MasterCard and Visa credit cards are used everywhere in the UAE, but not so much in Egypt. Thanks for this guest interview!
@catherinecastle8576
@catherinecastle8576 Жыл бұрын
Islam adds up the loan and the interest of the loan for the time period of the loan and divides it into monthly payments and voila! they now boast "no interest" loans. It takes a special kind of mind to be proud of that kind of financing!
@craigthebrute7929
@craigthebrute7929 Жыл бұрын
Not really. Equity financing means the investor stands to lose everything with no recourse to compensation if the underlying venture fails. That is not the case for a interest yielding bond, the bond must be paid regardless of the success of the venture.
@yeslion333
@yeslion333 Жыл бұрын
If you borrow ALL the money + interest, you can never pay it back unless you print. Halal finance ends the inflationary growth of the money supply/ money becomes deflationary
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ Жыл бұрын
Just use God's money instead of the inventions of men
@CollectorChronicles
@CollectorChronicles Жыл бұрын
Years ago I got quite an education listening to a British gentleman named Muhammad Rafeeq. Don’t know whatever happened to him.
@elsenormish
@elsenormish Жыл бұрын
This form of lending is worse than a traditional loan because if you decide to pay off your loan early in traditional lending the rest of the interest owed is dropped, however in Islamic banking if your loan period is 10 years and you pay it off in 5, you still have to pay the full amount.
@bodrulm1
@bodrulm1 Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, you need to look at the terms agreed. Terms vary depending on the retail product you bought. We don't have the problem you mention in the West. A large minority of people cannot afford their loans and debts, are perpetually in debt, let alone pay off things early.
@elsenormish
@elsenormish Жыл бұрын
@@bodrulm1 I live in an Islamic country, and all Islamic banks deal with loans the same way. For example, if I borrow 10,000, after 10 years I am expected to pay back 15,000. Whether I pay it back in 2 years or 10 it won’t make a difference. However with non-Islamic banks here, if I borrow 10,000 and I am estimated to pay back with interest 15,000 after 10 years. If I pay it back in 5, I only pay back 12,500. Again just an example but this is exactly how it works. In Islamic banking the amount you pay back is measured in the interest rate, but by using a loophole as to not call it interest, the amount you pay back will always be the amount that you agreed to pay back when you sign agreement.
@roberthannah7983
@roberthannah7983 Жыл бұрын
@@elsenormish Thank you for this clarification. I was not aware if it.
@TyLee960
@TyLee960 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Po-tato Pot-ato. Fair value is exactly the same but it just sounds so much worse for retail clients.
@lukesky2491
@lukesky2491 Жыл бұрын
we call that mortgage
@k.mraffeeqahmed237
@k.mraffeeqahmed237 Жыл бұрын
Bismillah insha Allah Affairs
@k.mraffeeqahmed237
@k.mraffeeqahmed237 Жыл бұрын
Welcome of Allah Affairs
@tsiwt
@tsiwt Жыл бұрын
Uranium up 20% maybe have a conversation about that?
@carrotscarrots4life
@carrotscarrots4life Жыл бұрын
How about looking into the Jewish loan system? They had a slightly different take that might be better with their year of jubilee having some form of debt forgiveness.
@travissmith8017
@travissmith8017 Жыл бұрын
The west already adopted the Jewish loan system centuries ago!
@carrotscarrots4life
@carrotscarrots4life Жыл бұрын
@@travissmith8017 Incorrect. The original old testament one had loan forgiveness built in every seventh year, and then something special every 50 IIRC.
@travissmith8017
@travissmith8017 Жыл бұрын
@@carrotscarrots4life Many of those rules/statues dictated how jews treated each other, and didn't apply to gentiles. There are plenty of examples of this in the Talmud.
@carrotscarrots4life
@carrotscarrots4life Жыл бұрын
@@travissmith8017 That sounds about right. So it would be good to have a look at that system as well. If needed it could apply to a nation, and not international lending, but if someone is going to look at the Islamic lending system, then it would be good to compare to the original Jewish one as well.
@turan4994
@turan4994 Жыл бұрын
Banking of future
@repo4sale
@repo4sale Жыл бұрын
Co-Ownership of Collateral LOANs..... Mutual Funding aka part ownership of property!!
@sang3Eta
@sang3Eta Жыл бұрын
Bitcoin has no inflation so requires no interest to chase inflation.
@miltkarr5109
@miltkarr5109 Жыл бұрын
But I need to buy a purdy camel...ok ok I'll settle for a goat.
@trademan7204
@trademan7204 Жыл бұрын
This aren't "Islamic" concepts. Islam is way to new to claim these ancient norms. These just run contrary to the jew model that's eaten up the broader world economic system with it's countless forms of usury and bait and switch tactics. Mercantilism (as opposed to capitalism) as well as the School of Salamanca's economic model used by the whole Catholic world (before the judeo/protestant influences gained control) which gave way to Austrian economics reflects this.
@mcata3625
@mcata3625 Жыл бұрын
Butthurt? Islam is not claiming anything. It aims at a fair and responsible socio economic system, and guidance is taken from the Qur'an.
@gregoryhamalian
@gregoryhamalian Жыл бұрын
bingo!
@gregoryhamalian
@gregoryhamalian Жыл бұрын
@@mcata3625 can't see why it would hurt when the fellow is right on the money here...islamic finance is not a revolutionary idea, Vedic laws prohibited usury well before christianity and islam. Fact.
@hendrixj.8356
@hendrixj.8356 Жыл бұрын
Whats next? Kitco charged with fraud when Gensler wakes up
@saminaffi3177
@saminaffi3177 Жыл бұрын
It appears Islamic financing and Islamic loans would solve a lot of the world's social and economic problems. Great interview Kitco!
@musiccityimportsinc3868
@musiccityimportsinc3868 Жыл бұрын
It’s basically formed under the coron’
@princeniloy2975
@princeniloy2975 Жыл бұрын
Late fee is given to a charity that doesn't mean it is not interest, Shame on these people who play with the name of religion. No Islamic finance is 100% Islamic.
@panKiev
@panKiev Жыл бұрын
Why to spend time on something that doesn’t work
@Damageinc.
@Damageinc. Жыл бұрын
Do they go to jail if they don't pay the loan back...
@thirddude244
@thirddude244 Жыл бұрын
thats a good question
@KM-sr9cc
@KM-sr9cc Жыл бұрын
in the Islamic world, you not only go to jail but also get lashed, in harsh cases, they are executed in Public or if you're a woman, stone you to death.
@Feelin528
@Feelin528 Жыл бұрын
Seattle has a Islamic bank.....or used too just a few years ago . You don't have to be Islamic either to bank there .
@egyptianhebrew91
@egyptianhebrew91 Жыл бұрын
5 dollars for a pencil is quite high of a price, no wonder why everyone is broke except for the guy that owns the pencil company
@gregdemetri7867
@gregdemetri7867 Жыл бұрын
See any trees in the desert?? They save money on oil $5 fills up your car.
@jhkhan
@jhkhan Жыл бұрын
He is not Arabic Mr. Greg.
@egyptianhebrew91
@egyptianhebrew91 Жыл бұрын
too many people do not pay, chop off heads
@haroonahmed7154
@haroonahmed7154 Жыл бұрын
Excellent show David, Glad that you chooses this topic
@Edward-bn2vw
@Edward-bn2vw Жыл бұрын
Just make sure you pay the ‘rent’ and don’t spend all your money at the icecream parlour.
@ejkalegal3145
@ejkalegal3145 Жыл бұрын
It's a con. The returns are just derived from other means than interest. It is a fudge.
@thirddude244
@thirddude244 Жыл бұрын
you sound like a con
@chicomalo4862
@chicomalo4862 Жыл бұрын
No wonder they and the you know who don't get along.
@gastUCR
@gastUCR Жыл бұрын
So basically it's the same game of swaps with current yields and yields to maturity.
@gregoryhamalian
@gregoryhamalian Жыл бұрын
someone gets it...
@alekassyrian3473
@alekassyrian3473 Жыл бұрын
exactly ,, its only different terms 🤣🤣🤣
@usamabaloch8798
@usamabaloch8798 Жыл бұрын
actually no the main goal here is risk management mutual risk sharing you have to pay interest even you broke but thats not the case in rent
@rosewildbill6368
@rosewildbill6368 Жыл бұрын
...they don't charge interest ??? ...no they call it something else, entirely ...something more Islamic (hehe) ...sharia law ??? ...no thanks, I'm good
@HussainAkbar-pe4tv
@HussainAkbar-pe4tv 11 күн бұрын
I need 2 lk without i pay interest
@jamesgray7301
@jamesgray7301 Жыл бұрын
Do women need permission from their husbands to bank?
@craigthebrute7929
@craigthebrute7929 Жыл бұрын
No, the wifes finances are independent from her husband. But she cannot work without permission from her husband.
@mcata3625
@mcata3625 Жыл бұрын
@@craigthebrute7929 that is complete nonsense, in Islam womxn doesn't need permission from husband to work.
@danb5595
@danb5595 Жыл бұрын
Kind of a stretch to call it Islamic banking
@SK-xw2hu
@SK-xw2hu Жыл бұрын
Dors one have to be a Muslim to conduct business with an Islamic bank?
@salihozturk6677
@salihozturk6677 Жыл бұрын
Dont think so. There are some islamic banks in Turkey and have never heard they ask you to be muslim to conduct business. Btw, Who really knows your religion ? :) ın some countries i know religion is written on ID but in some it doesnt, therefore your belief is between you and the other one :)
@egyptianhebrew91
@egyptianhebrew91 Жыл бұрын
chop off fingers if loan is not paid
@factsandtruth9917
@factsandtruth9917 Жыл бұрын
Like any other silly made up semitic beliefs. How about the good ol Jew law where it's ok to take loans with interest from non Jews?
@rosewildbill6368
@rosewildbill6368 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TyLee960
@TyLee960 10 ай бұрын
with rpg?
@ByTheGram
@ByTheGram Жыл бұрын
bish better have my oxen
@jc7887
@jc7887 Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@bennyt8267
@bennyt8267 Жыл бұрын
This perfectly explains the flaws of religion
@joeblowe7545
@joeblowe7545 Жыл бұрын
Islamic religion. Fixed it for you.
@carefreepuggle2408
@carefreepuggle2408 Жыл бұрын
I would have to disagree that SA cares about Islam when it is Wahhabism
@TXLionHeart
@TXLionHeart Жыл бұрын
Hopefully, Allah never watches this video and sees how hard we are working to find loopholes to ignore His wishes and outsmart Him. But hey, it's a "markup" -- not interest -- right? 😉
@kapliger
@kapliger Жыл бұрын
Don't be disrespectful.
@roberthannah7983
@roberthannah7983 Жыл бұрын
I agree, the deferred markup is just compensation for the time value of the loan same as interest. But riba was really about exploitation - loan sharking,, not modern interest.
@stevelinbergbaby135
@stevelinbergbaby135 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian, & I can't stand money changers🙏✌️🙏
@JimJamJuicy
@JimJamJuicy Жыл бұрын
That’s why Jesus loves Bitcoin. Honest weights and measures
@sebl9838
@sebl9838 Жыл бұрын
@@JimJamJuicy no he didn't, in the Bible it clearly days "Let there be Monero - the secure, private, untraceable currency".
@secretsquirrel6718
@secretsquirrel6718 Жыл бұрын
There is a saying about letting thecamels nose under the tent....
@ArChi285
@ArChi285 Жыл бұрын
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ISLAMIC BANKING as long as the money used is FIAT MONEY.
@stuarthowe8174
@stuarthowe8174 Жыл бұрын
Same meat different gravy
@kane1928
@kane1928 Жыл бұрын
All I hear is rhetoric
@mattball7074
@mattball7074 Жыл бұрын
In the UK lol
@eyadsaheb5672
@eyadsaheb5672 Жыл бұрын
“islamic finance is a system of finance that AFFECTS many systems around the world.. “ 😂 those poor muslims paying no interest, how do they live with this affliction??
@mohmda4449
@mohmda4449 Жыл бұрын
Contractual acrobatics. Please be careful.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Жыл бұрын
Based.
@Dedicated_.1
@Dedicated_.1 Жыл бұрын
Based = I agree w this
@NoHomo1776
@NoHomo1776 Жыл бұрын
Zero interest loans, but if you fail to pay back in full, you get your hands chopped off.
@thirddude244
@thirddude244 Жыл бұрын
LOL i dont think thats correct
@goldenman85
@goldenman85 Жыл бұрын
Common mistake in prejudice...
@NoHomo1776
@NoHomo1776 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenman85 Big time prejudice against satanic sharia law.
@quantifiablyqorrect2905
@quantifiablyqorrect2905 Жыл бұрын
Basically it sucks haha problematic = they chop your hands off in the night
@johnadm3479
@johnadm3479 Жыл бұрын
Islam is the solution ❤️
@thirddude244
@thirddude244 Жыл бұрын
BASED
@rosewildbill6368
@rosewildbill6368 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@esotericninja5630
@esotericninja5630 Жыл бұрын
Salman Rushdie actually proved that to be wrong with that book he wrote.
@roberthannah7983
@roberthannah7983 Жыл бұрын
I dont see millions of refugees moving into Saudi, Iran, Afghanistan and Pak.
@k.mraffeeqahmed237
@k.mraffeeqahmed237 Жыл бұрын
Welcome of Allah Muhammed Adam biggest Head Affairs
@notjoeking5370
@notjoeking5370 Жыл бұрын
But slavery, incest and forced marriage is ok, just dont call it interest and we're all good.
@tttuu3309
@tttuu3309 Жыл бұрын
You will always be a close minded with your bigotry….. rather than asking questions concerning this particular video
@rosewildbill6368
@rosewildbill6368 Жыл бұрын
✅️
@rd9102
@rd9102 Жыл бұрын
Islamic Finance is why the Turkish Lira is getting destroyed. Good luck with that.
@user-uy9wy9fi2b
@user-uy9wy9fi2b Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@dnajournal4321
@dnajournal4321 Жыл бұрын
All the alt-right Kitco viewers are probably crying this interview even happened. But I found it very interesting. If the back is backed with gold and silver, it's more legit and honest than most.
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