Zero Your Rifle | What Everyone SHOULD Know

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John took his Rifle 1 class through a quick lesson on ballistics with his "professional" diagrams and charts to explain how gravity works and then he took them out to the line to test his theory. No apples were harmed in the making of this video.
We know it's a hassle and you just want to pew pew and plink, but understanding zero theory and making it practical and easy for you to do will make it more fun when you can quickly change from close targets to distance targets easily.
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@SgtScrewup000
@SgtScrewup000 4 жыл бұрын
"unless you're carrying around a range finder all the time" My math teachers told me the same thing about calculators and look at us now.
@Foxhound_J
@Foxhound_J 4 жыл бұрын
Technically if you have a phone then you have a calculator but I get your point lol
@iforbach4003
@iforbach4003 4 жыл бұрын
@@Foxhound_J.... That's the joke...
@kylebanks4003
@kylebanks4003 4 жыл бұрын
you know what tht is true. there are optic prototypes that are being developed for military use that have rangefinder built in and automatically zero the reticle to the targets distance. Almost scary in a way lol
@asdfkhieee
@asdfkhieee 4 жыл бұрын
I keep my golf clubs in my trunk, so I actually do have a range finder with me all the time.
@itruck1
@itruck1 4 жыл бұрын
Samsung should make a phone with a range finder in it. Someone important needs to have their secretary send them a letter.
@bludmakesgrassgrow
@bludmakesgrassgrow 4 жыл бұрын
I zero mine at 9 yards, which is all the farther i can shoot in mom's basement.
@Keka-vg3ut
@Keka-vg3ut 4 жыл бұрын
Not garand thumbs comment section 😅
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually a pretty good zero
@sbdreamin
@sbdreamin 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@bludmakesgrassgrow
@bludmakesgrassgrow 4 жыл бұрын
@Ryan McMorrow mommy brings them down for me, of course.
@bbarnhartpd
@bbarnhartpd 4 жыл бұрын
Bwahahahahaha
@roccobierman4985
@roccobierman4985 4 жыл бұрын
"I didn't tell you to recover." LMAO. You can take the man out of the military but...
@thomasohanlon1060
@thomasohanlon1060 4 жыл бұрын
"I'll just move you." every NCO, you can take the man out of the military but...
@donaldswanson5170
@donaldswanson5170 4 жыл бұрын
We always got a BZO at 37m then started at the 200, 300 and 500. I like the info! I always have had the 100yd zero. Thanks again and Semper Fi
@ferebeefamily
@ferebeefamily 4 жыл бұрын
Good information. Thank you.
@dickjohnson8636
@dickjohnson8636 4 жыл бұрын
Poor guy haha i cringed so bad
@Legatus2kx
@Legatus2kx 4 жыл бұрын
If I had a dollar for every time I said that, fuck Bloomberg, 🤣
@MidwestPrepper
@MidwestPrepper 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is great. Hes clearly knowledgable yet doesnt talk down to his students. Truly the definition of a great teacher.
@Konvinced89
@Konvinced89 4 жыл бұрын
Can confirm. Took Pistol 1 with John in June, and I intend to return for more.
@bigeyetuna6228
@bigeyetuna6228 4 жыл бұрын
This is his best video in my opinion, wasn’t a big fan before this, I’ve watched this video 3 times from S to F
@MidwestPrepper
@MidwestPrepper 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigeyetuna6228 Ive watched more since, i like all his stuff
@bench175
@bench175 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigeyetuna6228 Hopefully you can answer me. According to his picture, if I have 100yd zero, and then switch to a 110yd target, my bullet with hit low. Is this correct? Or is the bullet still rising at 100, so it will hit high at 110yd?
@bench175
@bench175 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigeyetuna6228 Never mind, I figured out his picture is wrong. He drew bullet trajectory as rising about line of sight, then falling down to 100yd target. For 100 yard zero, 100 at at the top of the trajectory.
@ViewlessSquid
@ViewlessSquid 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you got a tough crowd. I was laughing at all your jokes.
@drjones762
@drjones762 3 жыл бұрын
Agree!! Dudes need to lighten TF up!! 🥴🤣
@ViewlessSquid
@ViewlessSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@JoozdontliketheTruth what?
@ino_brie
@ino_brie 2 жыл бұрын
@JoozdontliketheTruth you are part of the no fun crowd, aren’t you
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 Жыл бұрын
​@JoozdontliketheTruth he's only ever used daddy's money
@victorymike88
@victorymike88 Жыл бұрын
Got something dripping off your chin there
@Boodge-hc9jl
@Boodge-hc9jl 4 жыл бұрын
This guy literally wakes up every morning and snorts rays of sunshine. He's so nice and happy but he has the energy of Gilgamesh.
@jlove0311
@jlove0311 4 жыл бұрын
Gilgamesh had energy?
@Boodge-hc9jl
@Boodge-hc9jl 4 жыл бұрын
@@jlove0311 have you ever heard the epic of Gilgamesh?
@jlove0311
@jlove0311 4 жыл бұрын
@@Boodge-hc9jl I've heard of it... Never read it
@Boodge-hc9jl
@Boodge-hc9jl 4 жыл бұрын
@@jlove0311 if you're curious Google it and you'll know what I'm talking about
@jlove0311
@jlove0311 4 жыл бұрын
@@Boodge-hc9jl Ok... gottit kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYjToZ5tYrKnn5Y
@Bicyclechris
@Bicyclechris 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the approach to training here. Very different from other courses provided by some with military backgrounds. Here's what I like: Positive attitude, clean language, factual information. My level of respect for this type of teaching method is higher, this is like quality coaching. Tearing people down, dropping F bombs, and generally treating civilians like military recruits shuts me off personally. I find that the content in this Channel, and the teaching methods demonstrated here is very refreshing. Keep up the great work!
@donoimdono4868
@donoimdono4868 3 жыл бұрын
Chris H. - I taught state leo academy for 15 yrs and I can attest that he is a very good instructor. though I haven't met him personally, I've watch many of his instructional vids and I really like his style.
@MobileAura
@MobileAura 3 жыл бұрын
In order for somebody to be able to yell at you and for you to actually benefit from that they would have to have your utter and absolute respect and in that sense they would have to be virtually perfect human beings that are absolute angels. I’ve only met one person in my life like that, she can totally 💩 on me on a daily basis and it’s ok because I know she means well/she’s as perfect human being as it gets.
@THEJOEBECK
@THEJOEBECK 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. 4-letter words are so offensive. #safeplace
@Theirishscott1177
@Theirishscott1177 2 жыл бұрын
John is super respectful but still has that SF sarcasm and attitude it's like humble ego and clean language , pretty awesome. Some of his stuff you DO have to have been SF to understand. I thinkthats why he has a tough crowd.
@johnfogg7858
@johnfogg7858 2 жыл бұрын
@@THEJOEBECK There's a time, a place and an audience for everything, Sparky. #KeepItClassy
@alexmook6786
@alexmook6786 3 жыл бұрын
This man explains zeroing a rifle and the associated physics just brilliantly...like a physics professor who is also a real bad ass. Kudos to you John! Best lecture of zeroing I have ever seen.
@diegolainfiesta
@diegolainfiesta 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...he went from frame of reference...to gravity really quickly. Great explanation!
@TheKillaMethod
@TheKillaMethod 4 жыл бұрын
Did John ever come out with the camo bathrobes? For home self defense.
@PACEMAKER8383
@PACEMAKER8383 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm still pissed at my wife for not getting me one for Christmas
@toddk1377
@toddk1377 4 жыл бұрын
No....but there is tactical aprons for grilling on Amazon. I wish there was a tactical robe 😞
@TheKillaMethod
@TheKillaMethod 4 жыл бұрын
@@PACEMAKER8383 at some point Maybe you should sit your wife down and have the "Devores talk" just kidding happy new years
@PACEMAKER8383
@PACEMAKER8383 4 жыл бұрын
She would kick my butt I'm not sure if that's a wise choice maybe I'll call her 🤣
@TheKillaMethod
@TheKillaMethod 4 жыл бұрын
@@PACEMAKER8383 lmfaoo!!!!!! True, Very wise words my friend.
@deej_liketanner
@deej_liketanner 4 жыл бұрын
Crickets when there’s comedic gold in that room 😂
@ryanday9737
@ryanday9737 4 жыл бұрын
Taking it way too seriously, or afraid their wives might be watching the live stream. After 27 years married, I'd have laughed...and if my wife was watching, she would too. God bless her!
@griff7749
@griff7749 4 ай бұрын
There isn't a mic on them, so no noise Sherlock 😂
@Persuasian338
@Persuasian338 4 жыл бұрын
His joke about the hostage should've been laughed at more. I was rollin for a good 30 seconds.
@TheArtistFKApingaso3687
@TheArtistFKApingaso3687 4 жыл бұрын
They were deep in thought and contemplation to register a laugh.
@joshuaputman8307
@joshuaputman8307 3 жыл бұрын
Some people are just overly sensitive and have zero sense of humor. I thought it was hilarious.
@blade643
@blade643 3 жыл бұрын
Had me rolling as well! Gimme more dark humor!!
@pufthedragonCCS
@pufthedragonCCS 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised I'm the only one who laughed at the "and some of you like your wives" joke.
@Polemicist_
@Polemicist_ 4 жыл бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT?! That was HILARIOUS!
@Tavis15ify
@Tavis15ify 4 жыл бұрын
As my first thought was 2 birds 1 stone
@Polemicist_
@Polemicist_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tavis15ify BRUH XD
@Polemicist_
@Polemicist_ 4 жыл бұрын
@Superdude70 No, I just have a sense of humor.
@blackjack3599
@blackjack3599 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tavis15ify dude, thats dark.
@seraph1926
@seraph1926 4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed. "Cue up the African music" and it's not "AAAAAAAAHHHHH ZEBENYAAAAA" from the Lion King.
@theartofshwa
@theartofshwa 4 жыл бұрын
"I BLESS THE RAINS DOWN IN AAAAAAAAAAAAAFRICAAAAAAAAAAAA..."
@sonicice8340
@sonicice8340 4 жыл бұрын
@@theartofshwa Toto lol
@kingkwon8002
@kingkwon8002 4 жыл бұрын
Proberly copyrighted
@MrGetarealgun
@MrGetarealgun 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something from Blackhawk Down.
@droneshark9639
@droneshark9639 4 жыл бұрын
Corona virus will ruin that trip.
@PPISAFETY
@PPISAFETY 4 жыл бұрын
As a career instructor, it is a true pleasure to watch John work. He is really great at what he does. If I wasn't so damned old now, I'd pay money to train with him. Anyone looking for a class should consider his training.
@tedcarl5382
@tedcarl5382 4 жыл бұрын
“Gun bunny prone” 😂
@PawneeStormChaser
@PawneeStormChaser 4 жыл бұрын
TED CARL T H I C C
@fosatech
@fosatech 4 жыл бұрын
All he needs now is a sponsorship from Taran Tactical
@tedcarl5382
@tedcarl5382 4 жыл бұрын
Atlas Tech I mean, that gun bunny with her thong pulled up around her waist with the pants around the hips is a hot little number, I ain’t gonna lie.
@rigsby556
@rigsby556 4 жыл бұрын
Natural Point of Aim is very important when shooting prone for all the accuracy you and your weapon system has. Once you are prone and on target simply close your eyes and just breathe for a few seconds then reopen your eyes, the sights should still be on the target. If they moved then your body is not working with your rifle.
@dthewave9466
@dthewave9466 4 жыл бұрын
This is taught in Germany to hunters by teaching them to zero about 1.5 inches high on 100m to intuitively be able to just hold straight on the target on all regular hunting distances for most German areas. Great video!!
@mrdrprof99
@mrdrprof99 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be in metric though? Never heard a German use inches for anything.
@dthewave9466
@dthewave9466 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrdrprof99 4cm high :)
@oneeyeman6118
@oneeyeman6118 4 жыл бұрын
Penis length tall
@BooDamnHoo
@BooDamnHoo 3 жыл бұрын
I've found that zeroing at 25 yds tends to give a good zero out to 300 yds and even 400 depending on the muzzle velocity. On my 16 inch 7.62 rifle, with a muzzle velocity of only about 2550, this gives me a great zero to 270 yds. Only marginally worse at 300+. Just stumbled on that by accident, actually, while playing with ballistic software.
@teej783
@teej783 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrdrprof99 Some still have Patton flashbacks.
@russelljohnson4527
@russelljohnson4527 4 жыл бұрын
"if that breaks it, you need a better gun". Amen, Brother!
@lakeeriemonster4541
@lakeeriemonster4541 4 жыл бұрын
No one with just irons? Makes me feel like a caveman.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 4 жыл бұрын
I know and how pathetic and or brain washed everyone has become. Every F@ing rifle Needs Iron Sights. Jesus?
@iamsam369
@iamsam369 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, with modern high quality optics, and free floated handguards, youre more likely to lose the zero on irons than on an optic. Ive never once damaged a optic enough to loose zero, but i have dropped rifles and bent Or twisted handguards and lost zero on the irons on atleast 5 occasions. Optic was fine, irons we’re off.
@easbreid9879
@easbreid9879 4 жыл бұрын
No shame in my game, yeah I've got multiple red dots and a 1-8 on my 18 inch upper but I will rock irons only anyday of the week. I'm a firm believer everyone should learn to use irons bc you never know what could happen
@LostMyMojo100
@LostMyMojo100 4 жыл бұрын
I have optics on all our rifles except my Scout Squad and my old 30-30 brush gun... The Scout doesn't really need optics and that old Marlin is for 50 yards and in...
@Hornet135
@Hornet135 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Karr Not if the front sight is attached to the barrel as intended. Otherwise your rail mounted irons are only as good as your hand guard is stiff.
@bretmoore6828
@bretmoore6828 4 жыл бұрын
Having basic training flashbacks from your first statement about recovering: Drill Sgt: "Drop and give me 100!" Me (After counting 100 pushups): "Sergeant, private Moore requests permission to recover!" Drill Sgt: "Get up." Me: Gets up. Drill Sgt: "I didn't tell you to recover! Drop and give me 50 more!" Me: Counts off 50 more, then, "Sergeant, private Moore requests permission to recover!" Drill Sgt: "Get up!" Me: Stays in pushup position. Drill Sgt: "Recover!" Me: Jumps upright into "parade rest", "Thank you sergeant for conditioning my mind and body! Feel free to drop me at any time!" That was in 1980 and I still remember.
@nunya2512
@nunya2512 4 жыл бұрын
Bret Moore I remember too 1974
@BandAid350z
@BandAid350z 4 жыл бұрын
I still have dreams of talking to an officer when I’m not at parade rest and and drill sergeant smoking my ass.
@Konvinced89
@Konvinced89 4 жыл бұрын
Best part is you conditioned yourself with only a little prompting. Students honor a good teacher by outgrowing them as efficiently as possible. Respect, sir, from a young former Airman('10-'17).
@waltmagic
@waltmagic 4 жыл бұрын
@@BandAid350z Parade rest is for sergeants aka NCOs. You're supposed to be at the position of ATTENTION when talking to an officer! Front leaning rest position, MOVE! IN CADENCE!!! EXERCISE! 1,2,3...lol
@BandAid350z
@BandAid350z 4 жыл бұрын
@Walter M yeah. That was the point. I’ll smoke myself now.
@adamthompson4979
@adamthompson4979 4 жыл бұрын
Every Marine watching this freaked out when he dropped his rifle on the ground.
@jonjames4281
@jonjames4281 4 жыл бұрын
LOL... they are a bit high strung when it comes to their rifles. I've had my buddies give me no end of shit cause I treat mine like John does. Screw it, if it can't take the abuse I need a better one.
@jamesshannon88
@jamesshannon88 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still freaking out.
@dmherman4208
@dmherman4208 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesshannon88 Lol, you should have seen what John did to MY rifle, er, pistol to get the brace on shorter. You would have taken your last gasp!
@justaninja1
@justaninja1 4 жыл бұрын
I was like WTF 😳
@JoshuaBurton110213
@JoshuaBurton110213 3 жыл бұрын
So did I but he does have a good point. If that little drop messed it up, then you got bigger problems.
@matthewcrawford4216
@matthewcrawford4216 4 жыл бұрын
Zeroing that many shooters in 3 strings is pretty amazing. I’ve been on firing lines with shooters who really struggle with zeros. You explained it very well and it shows.
@erikmckaygunsmithing6470
@erikmckaygunsmithing6470 3 жыл бұрын
As a former infantry instructor and range safety Nco its very easy to see John knows his business very well and is a great instructor!
@xX1GuNNy1Xx
@xX1GuNNy1Xx 4 жыл бұрын
"bleach blond hair.... and a bang energy drink" XD
@clamum
@clamum 4 жыл бұрын
Vitaly?
@ABOLISHATF
@ABOLISHATF 4 жыл бұрын
4:30 Finally someone with common sense about bullet travel it doesn't rise after leaving the barrel
@xXdatkid411Xx
@xXdatkid411Xx 4 жыл бұрын
But it may gain elevation... So does it rise?..
@hshs5756
@hshs5756 4 жыл бұрын
I finally proved that to myself when I was a kid and had a big field prepped smooth for planting alfalfa. Fire level, and the bullet will kick up dust in exactly the same amount of time as if you had just dropped it at your feet.
@ABOLISHATF
@ABOLISHATF 4 жыл бұрын
@@xXdatkid411Xx any height gained is from the rifle being canted upwards
@hshs5756
@hshs5756 4 жыл бұрын
@Evocati I said _LEVEL_ it only "rises" if the axis of the barrel is not level, but angled upward. If your bullet rises from a level barrel, you need a new barrel.
@paladin556
@paladin556 4 жыл бұрын
Good grief. Explain it this way please. The bullet does not rise above the plane of the barrel. Yes it may rise compared to ground level but it will not rise compared to the plane the barrel is on when fired.
@marklepollo8546
@marklepollo8546 4 жыл бұрын
John is a true teacher. He has all the knowledge as well as the ability to teach without belittling and with humor. I bet the students will learn more from this than an instructor that yells and intimidates.
@markb9896
@markb9896 3 жыл бұрын
I use a 36 yard zero for my red dot and have really got used to the tight POA/POI this zero provides. Zero theory intrigues me and this was very educational!!!!
@MrBullet888
@MrBullet888 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same zero for my ARs as well. The logic is sound for how tight the holds are.
@williamjohnson5030
@williamjohnson5030 10 ай бұрын
4 clicks for every two fingers is a fantastic tip! As an instructor myself, I am stealing that one.
@charlesmckinley29
@charlesmckinley29 4 жыл бұрын
People, spend $65 and go to an Appleseed and at least show up at the big money class with a decent zero and knowing your optic is tight and the gun will make it through the class. You will get much more out of John or any other high level instructor if you show up with better fundamentals. John THANK YOU for all you teach. Would love to see more Project Nemisis.
@kingboom777
@kingboom777 4 жыл бұрын
10:50 it was at this moment every Marine Corps Drill Instructors lost their shit.
@alexanderthegreat_CarGuy
@alexanderthegreat_CarGuy 3 жыл бұрын
“Some humility bro”. There’s always that one guy... who thinks they are Rambo. Lol.
@johnryan4769
@johnryan4769 3 жыл бұрын
Rambo? Never heard of her.
@jasonbrown5014
@jasonbrown5014 3 жыл бұрын
wasn't sure which zero he was referring to when he said this though. The 100 yard zero?
@Sheppard2030
@Sheppard2030 4 жыл бұрын
That class looks so amazingly comfortable. It even includes a "nap" session! Just look at everyone laying down! xD
@johnnewcomer1293
@johnnewcomer1293 4 жыл бұрын
"If that breaks it, get a better gun"- super truth on that one!
@lonewolf2364
@lonewolf2364 4 жыл бұрын
Telephone poles are generally 200 ft apart, if that helps.
@danielbreedlove
@danielbreedlove 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I just purchased a weapon and sight for the first time and was having trouble understanding zeroing. This gave an amazing description of its theory and what it looks like on paper as well as the practical exercise.
@ayowser01
@ayowser01 4 жыл бұрын
"Some of you really like your wives..." 😄
@randybounds2244
@randybounds2244 4 жыл бұрын
Cheat ? Hell Yes, how you think I got through school
@everettthoman2097
@everettthoman2097 4 жыл бұрын
36 yard zero proven vigilante elite.... I only use this zero. Proven cd size group from 7rd to 300. Works everytime with my eotech
@brendondickerson9563
@brendondickerson9563 4 жыл бұрын
I scrolled just to make sure I wasn't the only one.
@magwamagwa45110
@magwamagwa45110 4 жыл бұрын
@@brendondickerson9563 Me too 36 for the win...
@robphipps9662
@robphipps9662 4 жыл бұрын
With the 36yd zero what is the holdover for about 7yds?
@markgoostree6334
@markgoostree6334 Жыл бұрын
The 36 yd. zero is good for urban needs. I cannot see greater distances in my neighborhood. with this zero I don't have to think about anything but getting the sights on target. Hopefully, that will be never... and my AR will remain a range toy!
@theartofshwa
@theartofshwa 4 жыл бұрын
John; I expect an instagram of you holding your AR up on a rock like in Lion King. Don't make me beg.
@jamiesloan5902
@jamiesloan5902 4 жыл бұрын
You made some really spot on points that wayyyyy too many gun owners just DO NOT understand. Great job, John. You da man. The only thing that you missed was... Please explain to people why their sight over bore height matters. I've tried to explain it on probably 25 videos, but I'm just tired... lol
@nakotaapache4674
@nakotaapache4674 4 жыл бұрын
you are a good teacher. well on point and explains. maybe sometime when i flee from germany i wish to spend your classes.
@h.j.70
@h.j.70 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, seems like John has a lot of German followers
@tonydraht
@tonydraht 4 жыл бұрын
So gehts mir auch, eines Tages vielleicht
@nakotaapache4674
@nakotaapache4674 4 жыл бұрын
@Christopher Marlowe You are on point Sir.
@joelerk6298
@joelerk6298 4 жыл бұрын
@@nakotaapache4674 ich auch. Sobald ich 18 bin raus aus commie germany und im die Freiheit
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions 4 жыл бұрын
This added so much to my understanding of my zero - I’ve got my dot zeroed at 50/200 but I’m learning my lpvo and it’s zeroed at 100 atm (old hunting habit I guess) - I’m gonna zero it at 50 and then check it at 200
@Justin13089
@Justin13089 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really helped me understand the fundamentals of zeroing in my optics something that was really eluding me before. I’m overly analytical so if I don’t understand something fully it bugs me I can’t just follow directions to zero and not actually understand what I’m doing. some people can just shut up and do it I can’t. Thanks!
@kcrush1
@kcrush1 4 жыл бұрын
You have a natural teaching technique. You enjoy it, and it shows. I learn a lot from your videos.
@brentchuck1664
@brentchuck1664 4 жыл бұрын
When zeroing do you not take into account that you're shooting upward to the target from prone? Wouldn't it be better to zero from a bench, or put the target at ground level? Probably not a game changer either way but just thinking aloud.
@illerbrun85
@illerbrun85 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking the mindset is, if you’re a beginner or not the greatest shot, and you’re going to be shooting from prone, zero in from prone. Makes sense to zero in the position you’ll mostly be shooting from.
@johnathondavis5208
@johnathondavis5208 2 жыл бұрын
Up or down angle does matter (hypotenuse). You can always do a quick estimation of the angle (up or down) you are firing on a calculator. If say, 20 degrees then hit 20 & COS and you would adjust your elevation correction. So, 500 yards, whatever your normal correction would be, you would use 94% of that value. Otherwise, up or down angle, you will overshoot. You could also, if zeroing from prone, set your target to the same height as your muzzle for your original question - then, prone, sitting, standing, it is the same (exception is angle or cant skew your point of impact versus point of aim). Hope that helps some.
@757optim
@757optim 4 жыл бұрын
Threw my gun down and still shot a 1" group........in my buddy's target. Failed the test question. I said, "hold over". The 50/200 zero seems practical for minute of torso accuracy at reasonable distances. The "Gun Bunny Prone" is only for progressive marksmen. And a good incantation can aid in zen shooting.
@nathanfedora2840
@nathanfedora2840 4 жыл бұрын
15:50 "Pay attention to where you nose is relative to the charging handle”. I always keep the tip of my nose touching the charging handle. Keeps everything consistent.
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 4 жыл бұрын
Might want to check your lead levels, unless you're using a piston setup or respirator.
@Jazzman-bj9fq
@Jazzman-bj9fq 4 жыл бұрын
@@GottaculatI doubt by moving your had back farther on the stock you breathe in any fewer particles or fumes than being up on the charging handle. If you're a righty then your head is on the opposite side of the receiver than the ejection port but either way, being 3 or 4 inches further back isn't making much of a difference. If it makes you feel better, put several strips of 100 mile and hour tape on the stock where you want you cheek to be so each time you bring the weapon up so you'll find the same spot for consistency. Tip of nose to charging handle is what I was taught in basic and it worked pretty well. Shot Expert first time with virtually no rifle experience beforehand.
@frostriver4547
@frostriver4547 4 жыл бұрын
9:04 IMO, this is the best point for civilian defense. In a home or limited property range engagement, this is what matters. AR’s/AK’s etc in free states will usually have 30 rounds or more on board. Center mass with plenty of ability to follow up is my preparedness goal
@briangullickson9013
@briangullickson9013 4 жыл бұрын
.. emphasis on “free states” 🇺🇸
@dmherman4208
@dmherman4208 4 жыл бұрын
@@briangullickson9013 The first thing John teaches you at the firing line, after zero, is shooting the attacker in the T-box. Center mass was second. Both in fluid motions. Very great exercise.
@briangullickson9013
@briangullickson9013 4 жыл бұрын
DM Herman - sounds precisely like my cup of tea! 👍🏼 🇺🇸
@BandAid350z
@BandAid350z 4 жыл бұрын
“Free states.” It’s coming to your state because you have that mentality. Just look at Virginia. “Won’t happen here” got us into this mess in the first place.
@briangullickson9013
@briangullickson9013 4 жыл бұрын
BandAid350z well, we shall all see how it goes on 1-20-2020... 👍🏼🇺🇸
@grenemyr1833
@grenemyr1833 4 жыл бұрын
Wait! John, you mean I'm not supposed to include a range finder in my EDC?? No wonder my pants won't stay up!
@wnctarheel9626
@wnctarheel9626 4 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on the 36 yard zero?👍🇺🇸
@iamthelizardking6239
@iamthelizardking6239 4 жыл бұрын
WNC Tarheel that’s what i use now and I love it!
@rifleshooterchannel208
@rifleshooterchannel208 4 жыл бұрын
38 yard zero is superior.
@MadAColt
@MadAColt 4 жыл бұрын
Strelok app. Learn it, use it, love it. Everyone's zero preference will be subjective. Use the zero YOU love, not someone else's.
@klassens12
@klassens12 4 жыл бұрын
I will only use a 69 yard zero
@nathanfedora2840
@nathanfedora2840 4 жыл бұрын
36 Yards for 300 zero on the M16-A2...that's how I learned.
@nathanmanley4203
@nathanmanley4203 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for what you're doing John. This is the basics that unfortunately a bunch of new shooters don't know. I like to watch these just to keep it fresh. I keep thinking to myself "this is basic training shit for 11 series" lol
@jamiesloan5902
@jamiesloan5902 4 жыл бұрын
Optic height over bore is a huge variable. My AR is 2.8" above the bore. My bolt action .223 is 1.6" above the bore. My AR is approximately a 50-200 yard zero. My bolt gun is more like a 50-140 yard zero. Not enough people take this into account. It matters!!!!
@130Hflyer
@130Hflyer 4 жыл бұрын
I second the question on 36 yd zero. Shawn Ryan/Vigilance elite did an interesting video on POI spread for the different zeros, with 36 yd staying inside the diameter of a CD for out 300m (I think 300). Thoughts John?
@charliemike13
@charliemike13 4 жыл бұрын
130flyer agreed. I’ve heard that and experimented with it. Thanks for the info on a video about it.
@JustinGoldsmith
@JustinGoldsmith 4 жыл бұрын
@erozpl01 very true. But those of us defending our homes rather than our country shouldn't be concerning ourselves beyond 300. If I'm shooting at something 300yds away, I'm either hunting or commiting a serious crime. I don't hunt. So my response to your assessment is that while you are very correct, application is key. I would like to hunt but I've never had the opportunity to go. So as a home commando, 36 is my go to. When I get the chance to go I'll adjust my zero. No disrespect, just a different perspective.
@clarkgriswold4096
@clarkgriswold4096 4 жыл бұрын
Love that vid as well and my zero too,thanks Shawn!
@zZmiLLi
@zZmiLLi 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Shawn Ryan's video and zero my rifle at 37.5yds now too. Someone already commented on it in the reply, but 37.5/250yd zero is fine for somebody that's only using their rifle for home defense. The closer zero the better IMO for hd, but 37.5yd zero is versatile at shorter distances, and IIRCC, Shawn said that out of the 25/37.5/50yd zeroes, 37.5 had the smallest spread out to about 300 yds. I think the entire circle was about 6inches in diameter.
@zZmiLLi
@zZmiLLi 4 жыл бұрын
​@@mail-qh2qc I could be remembering wrong. I prefer it because 37.5 yards is halfway between 25 and 50 yards so it makes it easy to remember that it's going to be a 37.5/250yd zero. Could've sworn I've heard him mention 37.5 somewhere but I've been wrong before.
@YaHUKaB_ShaRYAL_YaShaRAL
@YaHUKaB_ShaRYAL_YaShaRAL 4 жыл бұрын
Must be nice having that kind of money & resources to train. What I don't get? Is so many brothers doing this training but not putting Democrats in their place, TO NEVER BRING UP ANY GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION BY THREATENING THEM & men like me don't have all that training but ready to do something about all of this? I just can't figure that out?
@jdude9922
@jdude9922 4 жыл бұрын
“I didn’t tell you to recover.” He played it off as a joke but every now and then you see the Ranger come out of home.
@destinytroll1374
@destinytroll1374 3 жыл бұрын
I see you there ATF Don't worry, all my guns were lost in a boating accident
@momwhoedc
@momwhoedc Жыл бұрын
Thank you John, Im going on my first AR beginners course this weekend, so this is going to help :)
@calgunnutz9610
@calgunnutz9610 4 жыл бұрын
John. I don’t comment often. Thank you for your service first of all. Thank you for teaching civilians as well as law enforcement and ex military if there is such a thing. I train L.A.P.D in my off time. You have honestly helped me further my training with simple little tricks. I’d say to make them shoot as well as think smarter. Amen and God bless brother. ❤️🇺🇸🗽🦅
@jerrydonquixote5927
@jerrydonquixote5927 2 жыл бұрын
We are veterans not ex-military
@takingbacktoxic7898
@takingbacktoxic7898 4 жыл бұрын
Zeros should be done based on your area of operations, the limitations of the optic, and the time allowed for engagements. There is no "magic zero" that is 100% correct for all platforms under all situations. If your area of operation is indoors (i.e. your home) with a maximum range of 5 meters, your zero should reflect that engagement distance if lord forbid you need to make a precise shot. If its "outdoors" your zero "generally" should be based on one of the following: the optic (1), or the size of the target you are engaging (2) or your personal DOPE sheet (3). Which one is used will be reflected in your equipment and the time you have to engage a target. 1. If your optic uses BDC, you zero based on the instructions given by the optic in question. i.e. if your ACOG says "zero at 100m" that is where you zero the rifle for the optic to perform at its most useful. The same is true for iron sights with BDC like the A2 or the MaTech. This system allows for fast engagements over both known and estimated distances. 2. If you are using a simple crosshair sight, or reflex, or dot sight, to get the most out if your platform your zero should reflect the size of the vital area of the target (in inches or centimeters) and your "maximum point blank zero" as that will give you hits at both known and unknown distances from zero to "X" meters limit of your PBZ. This is also true if you are using fixed iron sights. Incidentally this is why the 25/250 meter zero was used in the M16/M16A1 series of rifles in the first place it allows reliable vital hits using M193 ammo to 400 meters without holdover. This system allows for very fast engagements over any distance up to the limits of PBR without any adjustments. 3. If you have reliable DOPE notes, with a way to reliably calculate ranges, and enough time to adjust optics (or calculate holdover), optimal zero distance debates are irrelevant as you are calculating ballistics each shot using the laws of physics. This system allows for ultra precise shots over any known distances provided there is enough time to calculate distance and adjust accordingly.
@hopewilliams6705
@hopewilliams6705 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your amazing sense of humor I thought I was alone in the world...lol
@aguynameddoug.8001
@aguynameddoug.8001 10 ай бұрын
Forgive me if you answered this and if its common sense, but if you do zero it for 300 meters would you need to aim lower if shooting target at 50 meters? I got a feeling that you do, but maybe not by much at all. Thank you for your videos, you crack me up and I bet youre a really good father.
@Aegisltd
@Aegisltd 4 жыл бұрын
14:08 Raptor charging handle. Good choice.
@MobileAura
@MobileAura 3 жыл бұрын
Giuseppe> but yeah radian is #2
@fosatech
@fosatech 4 жыл бұрын
All Mike is missing is a sponsorship from Taran Tactical.
@diegoveloso3rd
@diegoveloso3rd 4 жыл бұрын
"SOME of you really like your wives" Me: Hmmmmm 🤔
@richardknight3895
@richardknight3895 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. A set of long range iron "flip up" sites would be a great way to demonstrate siting vs. muzzle elevation.
@boosted95
@boosted95 4 жыл бұрын
Need to get all the like minded folks to take a trip to Virginia to give a hand rid the state of tyrants.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 4 жыл бұрын
No thank you, you are on the list, moron.
@boosted95
@boosted95 4 жыл бұрын
@@springbloom5940 If we all don't stand up for our rights we all will be on ''THE LIST''. I have no plan on any illegal activities. It's all our duty as americans to protect the constitution and our rights as americans. If you have a problem with that you may be part of the problem.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 4 жыл бұрын
@@boosted95 And now you're crawling away from your brave words. No courage of conviction, even.
@boosted95
@boosted95 4 жыл бұрын
@@springbloom5940 Dude im not trying to sit here and argue with you over this. I'm guessing if we both are watching this video we have the same mind set and only want our right to protect our family and ourselves from the evil in this world. Have a good day
@WhtSupremePizza1
@WhtSupremePizza1 4 ай бұрын
"Play some African jungle music" *Puts on NBA Young boy
@ytdlder
@ytdlder 4 жыл бұрын
This is madness; an American talking metrics... :-) Nice vid, as always!
@zer0tzer0
@zer0tzer0 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why the 36 yard, or 33 meter zero is a good compromise between the 25/300 and the 50/200 zeros. It will hold within 6 inches all the way out to 500 to 600 yards.
@jerrylopez03
@jerrylopez03 4 жыл бұрын
“I didn’t tell you to recover “ My heart started to beat in cadence!
@hazwell6811
@hazwell6811 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the wife joke was solid because I won't ever forget that lesson!
@RagnarOdinson
@RagnarOdinson 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna kill'em right now." 😂😂
@celticanglotx313
@celticanglotx313 10 ай бұрын
Que up some jungle music? I hear it every day when I step outside. 🤬
@michealheavy1240
@michealheavy1240 3 жыл бұрын
Great training as always. I love that you go back to the basics. Thank you
@marlonlagac7444
@marlonlagac7444 3 жыл бұрын
"...I'm not gonna edit that either..." Couldn't help but laugh at that. Overall, great video and very educational for those not quite as experienced with distance shooting. Thanks for making this video.
@johngalt9989
@johngalt9989 4 жыл бұрын
Can't zero if you can't group. Great video!
@holleneichhornchen3662
@holleneichhornchen3662 4 жыл бұрын
Having rocked the old A1 and A2, as well as the newer ARs, never, not once have I ever had a stoppage when using the magazine as a monopod. Not once, not ever using older or newer mags. Not sure where that myth came from. I remember the NCOs saying that as a lower enlisted early in my tenure, but the paradigm shifted later on.
@adamrickman2461
@adamrickman2461 4 жыл бұрын
Holleneichhornchen I was in the military 09-15 and always used my magazine unless I had something better to use. I also never once had an issue. I’ve had a few failure to fire but that was from an issue with the round itself. I still do the same thing today. At a company retreat we had a competition with standing on first two targets and then moving over to a wooden barricade if you would want to use some kind of support out to 200 yards. I was like 3rd to last to go and instead of moving over to the support like the previous 90 people, I dropped and began firing from where I started using the magazine as support. I think that saved me 6 seconds from running over there and getting a good setup. I ended up winning that year because of it I think. Being able to get off rounds quickly and accurately might be the more important thing depending on where you are. If you give me a sandbag, I’ll take it, but people need to be able to adapt to different shooting situations and not having a thing to support yourself with, using a magazine can be extremely helpful.
@formerpilgrim4934
@formerpilgrim4934 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the target to catch fire...
@Ryan.......
@Ryan....... 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I teach physics and often use guns as applied examples. A lot of your explanation was similar to the way I present this example. Given that I'm not nearly the expert you are in this application, I take the similarities as good signs for my instruction. Thank you.
@bootgrip6
@bootgrip6 4 жыл бұрын
John. I thought I was crazy for a minute, I had to keep pausing the video. All I could hear was the harmonica music. you win this round.
@sierrawhiskey5144
@sierrawhiskey5144 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using 36m zero since I expect most of my shooting to be rather close. Done pretty well shooting iron sights to 200 and 300 yards.
@maximusjoseppi5904
@maximusjoseppi5904 4 жыл бұрын
Mike is going to be so excited that this made it to KZbin 🤣
@richardmmarcus1
@richardmmarcus1 10 ай бұрын
Auto punch a "punched mark" on your optic and on your rifle after you zero, without removing your optic. Now you can remove and replace your optic to these "punched marks"! 👍
@CarlPapa88
@CarlPapa88 8 ай бұрын
Witness marks? Like a paint pen mark.
@Rubble1
@Rubble1 4 жыл бұрын
That guy laying down took grey man to a whole other level.
@505thpir
@505thpir 4 жыл бұрын
how did you not play TOTO... oh wait.. licensing.. damn
@kellydaniels8992
@kellydaniels8992 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the 1000in BZO, since Jan.’77. And don’t even crack an olé guy joke. The 36 yard zero, is my new 5.56 bench mark. @240 yards all the way back in to CQ, all shots will fit inside a 5 in. diameter, with 62gr. 20in. barrel. Keep on shooting, your never to old or young to train, or start training,,,,, God Speed, and God Bless, God Bless the Marine Corps,,,,, 🇺🇸 Semper Fi,,,
@venomx4093
@venomx4093 4 жыл бұрын
Living in the country, I explored the possible positions that a sniper could successfully take me out along my wood lines on every side of my house with windows which averages 50 yards. I zeroed my weapons at 50.
@davidhorein5589
@davidhorein5589 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the 36 yd zero that seems to have been gaining traction lately?
@MadAColt
@MadAColt 4 жыл бұрын
Get "Strelok" - it's a free ballistics calculator app for your phone, dial in your exact measurements for your specific needs, not someone else's. I suggest you take some time with the app, learn ALL of its options & functionality. Happy shooting!
@codemen13
@codemen13 4 жыл бұрын
I just asked the same thing didn’t see your question I hear it’s the best all the way out to 300 yards
@MDeJo27603
@MDeJo27603 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with David. Alot of these youtube guys suggest 50yd/50m.... and say its very flat to 200... well what If i want capability to like 400...? I also like the 36/300 personally. Seems more capable. Obviously depends on barrel length, longer lengths it seems smart, shorter then 50/200
@davidhorein5589
@davidhorein5589 4 жыл бұрын
@@codemen13 I'm going to John's Michigan classes this fall and previously had all of my rifles done at the 25 yd zero (old Army habit) but was looking at transitioning to the 36yd on all of my rifles.
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 4 жыл бұрын
Philosophy of use, barrel length, even caliber may make one better than the other for specific circumstances Atm across 4 diff rifles I'm using 3 diff zeros
@MobileAura
@MobileAura 3 жыл бұрын
Haha “I didn’t tell you to recover” giving me basic flashbacks. 🤣
@Magilla_Gorilla7.62x39
@Magilla_Gorilla7.62x39 4 жыл бұрын
i freaking love john's humor. XD
@jasonsims7049
@jasonsims7049 Жыл бұрын
Great video a lot of people should watch that good job man
@ghostlight69420
@ghostlight69420 4 жыл бұрын
John: Our guns and mags are so good nowadays that old problems are no more. Also John: Only load 29 rounds.
@zZmiLLi
@zZmiLLi 4 жыл бұрын
"All he needs now is bleach blonde hair and a Bang energy drink and he's ready for some likes on Instagram" 🤣😂 Most underrated one liner in the video.
@willright9146
@willright9146 4 жыл бұрын
If you could introduce some of this to demolition ranch, it would be great. He needs some reality introduced to his 6 million subs. I expect any day now to see a video of him firing a AA gun at spaceships.
@MARKSMAN108
@MARKSMAN108 4 жыл бұрын
Wait if you had a 200 meter zero and you wanted to shoot at 7 yards wouldn’t you want to aim low not high? Because the bullet is rising relative to you’re line of sight?
@takingbacktoxic7898
@takingbacktoxic7898 4 жыл бұрын
sight height offset will put the round low
@SCCreations
@SCCreations 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, you lost me at "meter".
@Ianbond21
@Ianbond21 4 жыл бұрын
158 people still in the prone position gaves this a thumbs down
@wwclay86
@wwclay86 4 жыл бұрын
If your not cheating, your not trying..
@JohnnyVersnachie
@JohnnyVersnachie 4 жыл бұрын
When the most dangerous man in the room tells you to approach it with some humility... You put your ego away!
@BamaDad
@BamaDad 4 жыл бұрын
Masai Mara, Pronounced like "Mass eye Marrah" and yes I've been there many times. But I still love you! IN a Bro sort of way!
@Konvinced89
@Konvinced89 4 жыл бұрын
I was able to visit a Kenyan Masai village about 12 years ago; we received a tour of the village, got see inside a home and watch a traditional dance. The primary purpose for the trip was helping to build new living quarters for girls who had been displaced due to pregnancy. Great experience.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 4 жыл бұрын
Avery nice video on the basics. This is timely; I zeroed a new optic yesterday, at 25 yd with a dot-circle reticle...hey, it corresponds to the 300yd BZO I was taught in the Marines! :) I also spoke with a new rifle shooter; this is an excellent resource to refer him to!
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