BMW E92 335i 17T E85 Mix Testing: Is E30 Much SLOWER?

[@ZijkantLeutn]

Never a boring moment with N54's!!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Its these little issues that keep me on my toes. Id get bored if it was just perfect all the time.

[@ZijkantLeutn]

@@ZeroTo60Tube haha 🙈🤣 sometimes I find it exhausting...Fix one thing, break twice as much -.-'

[@darrensmart5850]

Best time on a lower boost setting sort of indicates you need to look at traction, maybe better tyres and work on suspension setup.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

100%

[@BergenBoostMotorsport]

Hoosier and Mickey Thompson have drag radials in 18"

[@richardoffshore]

Awesome time on e30, I agree it’s go to be how it putting that power down, just too much being lost between the tyres and the road

[@echofoxx]

I had an bunch of timing drop issues and I replaced the VANOS solenoids, it helped a bunch! Car feels peppy and a lot less timing pulls! The reason I changed the Vanos solenoids because of a vanos code i got a while back. I also had some idling issues occasionally, not all the time. Try new oem solenoids! The code I got was 2A82 Inlet-Vanos variable cam control test!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

HMMMMMMMMM, i wonder if its the vanos contributing to my timing pulls.

[@MrCybergladiator]

Good video, keep it up

[@richardoffshore]

Even though my car is pretty stock, checking my JB4 my oil temp was also running at around 126 C @ Euro Day. Which is hotter than usual. It was extreme heat 🥵

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yeah it really was a killer of a day.

[@OCOWGTR27]

Timing > Boost in these modern turbo DI engines :)

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Starting to really get my head around that. Timing makes such a difference to this thing.

[@rd.3696]

Put a diff brace on a couple weeks ago on 135i.when you put your boot up it,it feels more responsive,instant if you know what I mean.😀

[@johnM-rc7cs]

I’m on a E55 mix and I gapped my 1 step NGK’s to .020. No issues here. But I’m also replacing my plugs every 15k to keep everything fresh. I don’t like dealing with codes. Haven’t got any codes in 2yrs cross my fingers.

[@overindulgent]

I run .02 gaps but I also have Precision Raceworks coils which are an LS style coil conversion.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks for the info, i have been eyeing off the PR coil kit, would like to get it one day.

[@Saif0412]

Very impressive times mate, hope its just the Vanos Solenoids playing up. Plugs and Coils definitely have a lot to do with timing corrections. I'm still running Bosch oem ones but that's because I haven't got crazy 17ts like your car has. From what I read, 2 step colder plugs gapped to 0.020" (0.508mm) recommended for your car.

[@Jern54]

I really love the flex fuel solution.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

It was good, the fuel station was out of e85 after euro day and it wasnt really a problem at all. Put the pump fuel in, set it to map 7 and keep driving. No need to re-flash or even really think about it.

[@Jern54]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah its ideal. In the Netherlands I have to mix it my self with E100 unfortunately.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

How is your build coming along? Getting closer to getting together yet?

[@Jern54]

@@ZeroTo60Tube The Engine block and head are now at the machine shop. However the sleeves are difficult to get. I hope to start the engine first half of Jan "21

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

fingers crossed for you. You got me researching sleeves. Its hard down here as the euro stuff scares the average machine shop here. But i think its the way to go.

[@mattsalmon110]

Try evans waterless coolant it does let the motor heat soak as badly and transfers heat better than normal coolant

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I was super keen on evans until I saw some independent testing on it. It appears it just boils at a higher boiling point, thus less chance of boiling the coolant and fixes a over heating issue that. Thing is the engine is getting too hot still, it just doesn’t boil any more. That said haven’t used it myself so can’t comment with any authority, just what I saw made me think it was a solution to a problem that shouldn’t exist in the first place.

[@milehighboost5521]

Dont just clean the vanos solenoids but also the vanos filters. Super easy and taken out with a t40 or t50 bit i believe. Also, are you running an ekpm2 or ekpm3 in that car? Just curious if you’ve had any issues at all with your lpfps on the ekpm2 since my 535 came with the same older ekp unit and i get that same fuel pump “shadow code” you got in this video. I tried to code in an ekpm3 due to issues with my lpfp not holding pressure or priming until i hit the start engine button but inpa doesnt want to recognize the newer ekpm3 so im kind of stuck on this issue. And yes, i did install a new fuel filter that comes with a new fuel pressure regulator and still same issue. Starts and drives fine but annoying it does take a tad bit longer to start up due to this issue

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I did actually put new filters in the engine while it was out. But that is something people overlook a lot. Im running a china ekpm3, i was having a few fuel issues on the BMS and RFP maps, but its not been a problem since the hybrids went on with the JSR tune.

[@qvrgmail]

Felt like we were in a virtual meeting today 🤣

[@reidlanham9067]

Must be time to get the car on a dyno ?

[@fiiianknight]

I noticed you don't have a check light on are you running down pipes? Which i assume you are... Or custom tune or some sort of bypass. I'm about to put down pipes on my e90 and really don't want to see the check engine light on all the time...

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yeah custom tune or even a MHD OTS map will stop the cel.

[@Al-of3zp]

e30 and e34 both classics

[@bmwid10t17]

I am in the same boat as you are, having some timing drops. I am running direct port meth and have considered going to .20. I am currently on .18 ngk 97506 with eldor coils. What about you?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Same plugs, same coils. Another commenter just mentioned his timing drops were being cause by vanos solenoids. Which has got me thinking pretty hard.

[@bmwid10t17]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah woth the vanos code, I would go that route. They are not to much, but then again sourcing them, as I have seen may be hard for you.

[@TheRealToybox]

What. another video!? Your spoiling us!! 🤣

[@TopiAS06]

goddammit, was excited about an e30 (model, not mix). but as usual, nice comparison

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks for the kind words. was a killer with gear playing up today. i felt bad about the choppyness of the vid.

[@tighematthew]

I was Just about to go to bed might just crack another beer 🍻

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Sorry about that haha.

[@tighematthew]

@@ZeroTo60Tube your so close to my 0-100 4.01 you have to much power 😉 you have coil overs hey Try a softer setting on your coil overs so it squats a bit give you a bit more traction

[@Ewok_Nz]

I had the same vanos code a couple of years ago, changing the solenoids and cleaning the filters didn't help. The exhaust sprocket had actually slipped on the cam. Did you replace the collar bolts on the cam sprockets when you timed the motor? They are a 1 time use bolt and are torqued to yield. I had the motor retimed and the bolts replaced and the issue hasn't come back. I put it down to the xhp stage 3 flash on the transmission being too hard on it, from the rpms changing too quickly under load.

[@Ewok_Nz]

Just looking at the vid, the code triggers once you go into over run. The exhaust cam will fully retard or advance (can't remember). If this is the case the cold start will probably trigger it too. You can check in INPA I believe there is a vanos test you can perform and manually control the cams to check if they respond correctly and can reach max retard and max advance stops

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yes, i did replace those bolts with new ones. Once yours slipped did you have on going codes?

[@Ewok_Nz]

@@ZeroTo60Tube oh bloody good. Those bolts just stood out to me as a potential cause. Codes never came back. I had to get the stealership to do the work as I didn't have the timing tool. They were great, showed me all the INPA testing etc and didn't charge too much. The techs there said they occasionally see it mostly on 06 and 07 motors. Did the manual conversion shortly afterwards so I can't say for sure what caused it.

[@kkarnis3791]

Probably need to build that other engine and go full send

[@philipwest6478]

Have up graded your rear subframe bushings?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Not yet. The cost of bushing and the time to drop the frame has kept me putting it off. A close mate has just the bush insert kit, which is easy to install and he things it made a difference. Considering its a $80 kit i might give it a crack before completely replacing the sub frame bushes.

[@philipwest6478]

@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks considering it as well.

[@philipwest6478]

@@ZeroTo60Tube have you seen this video of 034 inserts skip to 8:45 for the before/after video.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@philipwest6478 philip i havent seen any vids on the inserts so i will check it out

[@mulletor123]

Not always cam ledge , I brought my 335i with potential cam ledge fault . After solenoids did nothing I cleaned the 2 filters in the side of the head. 20k later and fault has not come back.

[@mulletor123]

2 torks bolts on the left side of the head if looking at the engine. 10 mins to clean. Don't drop the socket...

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

that was a nice win on yours then! I did actually put two new filters in this engine while it was out.

[@mulletor123]

@@ZeroTo60Tube oh, thats not good. Possibly is cam ledges then. Good luck.

[@yarekize]

Upgrade the radiator to mishimoto high performance cause it's very hot in australia

[@colin55594]

Would be cool to see how much power your running. I use log Dyno. People say it's really accurate.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hmmmmm it can be accurate. I have used it and spent ages putting as much information in as possible. Some runs it would say my car was 600whp and other runs it would say 520whp. The whole "power" measurement is a bit how you going in my opinion, even real dynos will read different numbers on different days.

[@WorldWideKaos]

“ouu check engine” 🤣

[@igotaction]

Need to see a proper log to see TQ req ActTQ I'm sure it's in the 180 curve. Need to see boost req/act fuel pressures and trims and timing corrections. If your trims max out positive I'm pretty sure the next step is for the DME to pull a tiny bit of timing out to be within trim limits. Same injectors? Same HPFP? The one time I could see your high side fuel it looked like 💩 so that's what I'm working with

[@lukeviewservice]

I wonder if you could launch better in a manual. Its pretty funny how easily you spin your tires. Maybe you need tires with a stickier compound.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Better rubber would help a lot. Manuals are definitely tricky to launch, but being to control the clutch slip would be nice assuming the clutch was up to it. This just spins the rears effortlessly.

[@johnosis69]

I’m going to comment before watching Bro run e85 only !! E85 only !

[@maxwellbrown2584]

"she feels spicy.... spiicee" hahaha

[@joshbrennan8545]

She's mad mate!!! Even scared the sh!t out of you 🤣

[@fredrik3863]

You got me there, was looking for a E30 with a S62 or something :D You read what you want to read as a beemer freak 😇

[@lancewood1410]

Hot weather......its an aussie thinggie :P

[@MihaiRece]

Best part 7:08 🤣

[@Ryan.E92]

I’m at the point where I’m gonna say screw the laws where I live and just go all out with my build sucks how because where I live I can’t enjoy my car how I want

[@Ryan.E92]

Loving the content and info keep up the great work!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

what are you limited to if you dont mind me asking?

[@StratoJohn]

Bloody rapid! Keep up the hard work, sub 4 seconds 0-60 soon 😉

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Fingers crossed. Thanks for becoming a member dude! Really really appreciate the love.

[@betervet]

2n:D