Zeus vs Thor | Who is the True Lord of Thunder? (Mythological Battle Royale)

[@MythologyFictionExplained]

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[@ki-pattao9030]

That is so awesome Thunder vs Lightning, Olympus vs Asgard, God vs God.

[@spaceghost9969]

Consider fate. Thor can be killed only by the serpent so even if Zeus got the upper hand, Jormundgandr would drop in just like Vegeta saying “How many times to I have to tell you Thor if anybody is going to kill you it’s gonna be me!” They’d team up.

[@spaceghost9969]

I think the prequel to Ragnarok is specifically this in order of the weekdays. Tyr fights Ares, Odin fights Hermes, Thor Zeus and what’s next before Saturn just has his day either way?

[@SirKnight1096]

Does Zeus require child sacrifice like Thor?

[@spaceghost9969]

@@SirKnight1096 actually neither requires child sacrifice. Who told you this? Ask them why they lied to you. Zeus actually gets extra pissed when people mess with kids. Thor took a couple servants as compensation for breaking one of his goats the one time. Baal required child sacrifice. Cronos ate his kids. Is there a connection between the two? I know Baal kicked ass on season two of Evil Dead and you should watch it!

[@joshmerchant8737]

I would like to point out marvel comics did this very same fight, Zeus won but was very impressed with Thor. Though as you said Marvel changes a lot about mythical figures.

[@adroitws1367]

what are their explanation for zeus existence? another alien like Thor or like the new celestial thingy?

[@jayhawk6966]

@@adroitws1367 Thor isn't an alien. He's the son of Gaea the elder goddess and Odin who was one of the first skyfathers along with Zeus, Vishnu and rest of the gods in the council of godhead. With that said Odin himself was born to gods like Borr whom in turn was the child of Buri. Buri had no parents but was spawn of the remnants of demiurgic energy which created elder gods or the first generation of gods. On the other hand Zeus too was born to the second generation of Greek gods who were titans. Titans were the descended from elder gods too. So yes they're all gods/deities and not space aliens.

[@adroitws1367]

@@jayhawk6966 Dude, we are talking about marvel version

[@jayhawk6966]

@@adroitws1367 So am I mate.

[@jayhawk6966]

@@voodoophil Couldn't have said it better tbh.

[@badgamemaster]

The part about Zeus being immortal, in some of the stories Thor can only die to Jormungandr during Ragnarok... but then again in some of the earlier Scandinavian versions of Thor's fishing trip, he kills the serpent.

[@willnorman-bargo]

When you kill the god-thing that was going to end the world in a random fishing trip and both save the world and have no idea what to do with your life.

[@ezrafaulk3076]

Plus, there was a story of Zeus turning a woman he impregnated into a fly and swallowing her because he was told that just as he'd done with his father Chronos, a child born to this woman would *kill* him and take his place, and that's what lead to Athena coming out of his forehead (Athena could very well *be* that child); so it *is* possible for Zeus to be killed.

[@saberlily1954]

@@ezrafaulk3076 Couple of corrections here. >Zeus turning a woman he impregnated into a fly and swallowing her It wasn't just some woman it was Metis, he also didn't turn her into a fly he tricked her into turning herself into a fly. > a child born to this woman would kill him and take his place He was told he would be overthrown not killed, he also didn't kill Chronos he cut him apart and threw him into Tartarus because you can't kill him. >that's what lead to Athena coming out of his forehead (Athena could very well be that child) Well yes Metis was pregnant with Athena when Zeus swallowed her, so she burst from his forehead already grown and clade in armor, but the actual prophecy was that he would have a daughter wiser than Metis and a son mightier than himself who would overthrow him. Athena is not that child and will never be more powerful than Zeus, its stated so many times that Zeus is how you say, "built different" and Athena has been a part of a failed coup against Zeus and herself said that no one could oppose Zeus. "Our Father, son of Cronus, high and mighty, we already know your power, far too well...who can stand against you?" -Athena, Book 8 Also, in a rant against Hera Zeus evens claims that all of Olympus couldn't stop him. ""Now go sit down. Be quite now. Obey my orders, for fear the Gods, however many Olympus holds, are powerless to protect you when I come to throttle you with my irresistible hands." -Iliad Book 1 Everyone then collectively shits themselves at just the idea of fighting Zeus. "And throughout the halls of Zeus the Gods quaked in fear." -Book 1 Zeus also just says "I will beat all of you together I am built different." "Hang me a golden chain from heaven, and lay hold of it all of you, gods and goddesses together - tug as you will, you will not drag Zeus the supreme counselor from heaven to earth; but were I to pull at it myself I should draw you up with earth and sea into the bargain, then would I bind the chain about some pinnacle of Olympus and leave you all dangling in the mid firmament. So far am I above all others."" To understand Zeus, you have to remember is he isn't just the god of the heavens, and lightning he is also the god of law, order and justice what's important about Zeus is his rule is legitimate unlike anyone else so he will never be defeated this is why the son never came to be and why Typhon failed.

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

@@willnorman-bargo jorm wasnt going to end the world, hes called the world serpent because hes fucking massive, surtr is the one who ends everything

[@willnorman-bargo]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Oh true. The joke was just to easy not to say.

[@AnimeSparky1295]

Wouldn’t both of them have a resistance to lighting, being gods of lightning? If Thor would be a melee based fighter while Zeus is more long range. It would come down to who can hit the other first.

[@LordCanti89]

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[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

The real issue is Zeus basically is on a higher rank than Thor.

[@PureVikingPowers]

Thor would destroy Zeus !

[@losttheory2761]

@@LordCanti89 😂😂😂 I'm with ya on that one

[@emilbackstrom6470]

we are the 5th generation of human because zeus whipped out all the other generations before. nuff said

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Given the level of authority Zeus has compared to Thor, I think it is a rather unjust duel. We are talking about the man who was overall near invincible. Zeus is closer to Marduk or Odin.

[@neme6496]

I don’t think the level of authority matters, because authority doesn’t mean strength and Greek mythology proves it, Uranus despite being king was dethroned by Kronos who was himself dethroned by Zeus. Also why do you think Odin is stronger than Thor?

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

@@neme6496 not stronger, but certainly more capable of overcoming Zeus. One thing that gave Zeus his role was how clever he was compared to the other gods. Therefore Odin and Marduk are a better match. Even when Zeus himself was by no means a genius, he was good at coming up with schemes. Thor has always been more direct in his approach to battle. Zeus could, in theory, manipulate him into defeat.

[@neme6496]

@@SergioLeonardoCornejo I agree that Zeus is clever, but I don’t know if he’s clever enough to use it against Thor, since Zeus can easily be provoked, but I get your point

[@DUKEHadToDoItToEm]

My thoughts exactly. The father of almost all Greek gods should be compared to the father of almost all Norse gods, not the son of that guy

[@Bigmojojo]

@@nickkorkodylas5005 but was unable to defeat Hercules in a wrestling match. Their match ended in a draw. I know this was god forum Hercules but still, the Greek stories can be very inconsistent

[@nikostheater]

The Thunderbolt of Zeus is different than the physical lightning. Thunderbolt is a manufactured weapon. Lightning is a natural phenomenon that Zeus has absolute control of.

[@chieftech714]

wrong. the lightning bolt was built for zeus by the cyclops in gratitude for being freed of tartarus.

[@burtan2000]

@@chieftech714 i thought his crippled but noble brother Hephaestus made it? He also made Poseidon's trident and Hades' helmet. That's what i recall anyway

[@christianrivera0712]

Let’s just be honest here, all of these answers are probably wrong

[@irishogre8424]

The cyclops helped Zeus in the war of titans hekatonchires also helped and before the titans were even locked up krampe was the guardian of Tartarus for the gate and hades surprisingly helped Zeus because they were also troubling hades and yes there was more people helping Zeus in the titan war I just didn't mention them

[@irishogre8424]

@@christianrivera0712 wrong all of these are acctualy really accurate to the myths

[@TheRabbitHole-r2b]

Please make this a series. Doesn’t just have to be gods it could be monsters and heroes too. Like Gilgamesh vs Maui or Heracles/Hercules, or Beowulf. Maybe Aphophis vs Typhon. The Cyclopses vs the Jotnar.

[@jagirl966]

I'd also like a comparison of both War and Love gods/goddesses and how they differ.

[@moonshineonme75013]

Medusa 🐍

[@joxerd]

Ishtar vs Aphrodite.

[@ikazuchioni]

Cerberus vs. Fenrir, Hydra vs. Jormungandr

[@FrostFireTiger]

Artemis vs Hou Yi, Quetzacoatl vs Yamata no Orochi, Gaia vs Ymir, Pele vs Poseidon, Ereshkigal vs Set, Chernabog vs Cipactli.

[@thehellenicneopagan]

Thanks Mythology & Fiction explained for making content we all know and love! You're the best...

[@grahamturner1290]

Most entertaining! May I recommend the Viking stories, myths, legends and folktales on the Northworthy Sagas and Stories channel here on KZbin. ⚔️

[@DeltaOdyssey]

Zeus vs thor is sort of the superman vs. Goku of the mythology fandom, at least to me.

[@Insideman666]

Yes and like Goku vs Superman the answer is easy. Zeus wins lmao

[@coleymaelan4610]

@Darian Darkkchild Ha! don't kid yourself Odin is weaker than Thor and let's say Zeus is as powerful as Odin. It would be a stomp Thor is stronger than his Odin this ain't Marvel, it's myth.

[@AppellateOdin]

@@coleymaelan4610 I wouldnt say its a stomp because zeus is pretty strong himself. I mean heracles was able to hold up the sky and his strength was comparable to zeus. Thor is also powerful as he was able to lift the World Serpent. It would be a hard battle for either side.

[@coleymaelan4610]

@@AppellateOdin yep, that's true but It would be Thor who would win when he hit jourmengander with a playful tap, it simply because he shook the 9 realms and 2 or three of those realms are infinite in size. Yes lifting up the sky wasn't an easy task, but remember Thor shook 9 realms. The sky is limited to the universe in greek, but for the norse it ain't new.

[@AppellateOdin]

@@coleymaelan4610 But you also got to remember that Zeus has survived having his tendons ripped out, having two complete seperate beings in him and having his skull cracked open. Not to mention he has gone against some incredibly powerful beings such as atlas, kronos, and typhon. Thor has destroyed whole mountains while not even trying but also zeus has as well. Idk about the sky being limited or unlimited in either but you also have to remember thor doesnt get all his strength from himself. He has some items to help him. Thor is extremely powerful but so is zeus. They also have different powers from each other that could also factor in so its not totally one sided.

[@MythologyFictionExplained]

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[@ashcassidy2057]

Please can you do a video talking about the Greek gods names (and where they got them from) along with their Roman counterpart’s names. Thank you! Love your stuff!!!

[@DeltaOdyssey]

Maybe the greek chimera vs a Chinese quilin? Bit if a wierd pairing but I always saw them as opposites.

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

Jörmmugandr vs Apophis.

[@darkwhispernyx1282]

Loki vs Hermes/Mercury. Both are the tricksters of their pantheons.

[@elmono6299]

Here are some suggestions: European Dragon vs Chinese Dragon Unicorn vs Qilin Chimera vs Manticore Werewolf vs Yeti Zombie vs Mummy Griffin vs Hippogriff Minotaur vs Tikbalang Centaur vs Nuckelavee Kitsune vs Succubus Leprechaun vs Genie Frankenstein vs Golem Gargoyle vs Tengu Cyclops vs Oni Nang Tani vs Yuki-Onna Bloody Mary vs La Noria Hades vs The Grim Reaper Vampire vs Angel Cthulu vs Satan

[@greyworld6242]

Please do another video like this with other gods! Like hades vs hel. Didn’t typhon destroy Zeus’s tendons? 12:00 also Zeus actually needed help to take him down. One hit from the hammer and Pegasus is dead. Lol! Hmm, Athena vs kali!

[@MythologyFictionExplained]

Indeed he did.

[@greyworld6242]

@@MythologyFictionExplained and Zeus fears nyx and Uranus was castrated by Kronos.

[@uselesshero.official]

Kali and Nyx would be on the same tier I think and I have reasons to believe so. Therefore Athena loses. Heck she'll probably even lose to Saraswati. And I also think Hades might win with a narrow margin against Hel. Plus it would also depend on the home ground advantage.

[@piercecronin6547]

Hades is far more powerful then Hel

[@R1kSen]

It is kind of an unfair fight. Sure, Thor is strong but Zeus is absolute. There is no contest. Thor vs Ares would make a much more interesting fight.

[@teekay851]

Zeus is definitely not absolute, Athena caused him pain and injury before she was even born...

[@hermionesvillage]

As for Thor vs Ares, Thor for sure. Though I’m not sure if that is an even fairer match. I think Tyr vs Ares is a lot more fitting.

[@trystenlyth1139]

At first I honestly thought that Thor would ultimately loose. Considering that like you said, Norse Gods are mortal, Greek Gods aren`t. But here`s some thoughts that came into my head while watching your vid. 1. Yes, Thor`s hammer can technically be lifted by anyone, you did state that Thor was really the only strong enough to hold it. Another is that it`s Thor`s metal gloves and belt that help him. So basically what I`m saying is that while yes, Zeus COULD, in theory, just take Thor`s hammer, it probably wouldn`t have the effect due to it not being wielded by someone with the proper gear. 2.Something you forgot to mention about Zeus fighting Typhon is that Typhon actually WON the first round and managed to rip Zeus's tendons out. Then there`s that time Hephaestus split Zeus`s head open to release Athena. What I`m trying to get at is that while yes, Zeus MAY be immortal, that doesn't make him truly invincible. Also, considering that Zeus apparently get`s hid lighting bolts from a bag held Pegasus, that could be inconvenient at times. Honestly, I see to possible scenarios. Either Thor managed to beat Zeus so hard that he ends up begging Thor to stop, or Zeus does it easy and turns into a cloud of air and enters Thor`s lungs and suffocates him from the inside. There`s are my two cents, take it as you will, and thank you for the videos sir. I`m proud to see how far you came.

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Um... that suffocation bit... yeah good luck there considering Thor drank the sea level down a few meters. Fought old age itself, and nearly ended the universe before it was time because a prank was pulled on him. He could probably inhale half the world's air if he needed to.

[@TroubleSZN]

@@craytherlaygaming2852 lungs are different then a stomach and only thing we know for sure is that he can drink a lot but that doesn’t mean nothing if its going into to his lungs

[@smileysatanson3404]

i feel this is more acurate than saying ''duuurh zeus immortal'' just because you're immortal doesnt mean you're immune to pain, and everyone has their limit, and yeah Zeuse could do that

[@CentauriTT]

We would never know, as any spectator of such a battle would be killed by their clash

[@brmblazer]

Thor is usually depicted as a dumb brute in Norse mythology. Zeus the ruler of a pantheon. It’s only with modern depictions of Thor that this question would even be worth asking. Personally I like Thor more than Zeus because Zeus is a dick, but clearly Zeus is more powerful

[@corneliuswhite5139]

Agreed, and Zeus cheats with the ability to transform.

[@newcenobium8872]

Thor is a brute, but he isn't really dumb. He plays riddle games and trivia with Odin, giants, and a dwarf.

[@brmblazer]

@@newcenobium8872 not to be rude but that is why I said usually and not always

[@CAPace09]

Age of Mythology vibes intensify

[@Simplyjeaniek]

Aphrodite vs freyja

[@uselesshero.official]

Probably Freyja because Feyja was a sage and had premonition powers. She also supposedly could make more clones/ forms of her.

[@IronDragon-2143]

If Thor has a one on one fight to the death with Zeus, the winner is Chuck Norris.

[@ashcassidy2057]

It would definitely be an interesting fight but I think it would just be endless and have to either die out so they just ignore each other or SOMEHOW talk it out

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

Or they’d straight up be best buds and never start fighting in the first place.

[@Insideman666]

Zeus wins 10/10

[@AndromedaNull]

Given how Greek gods are immortal and Norse gods aren't Zeus would likely win eventually

[@Insideman666]

@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 It’d be lit if they had a collab and stopped ragnarok together

[@johnyiannacopoulos639]

I agree this should be a series fs awesome video! it's nice having scenarios about these things coming from knowledgeable sources like yourself because of the informed perspective. There's always more to learn about mythology and history, but sometimes spectating can be incredibly insightful.

[@madambutterfly1997]

If it's going to be a war of Norse vs Greek, my money's on Fenrir killing all the gods on both sides

[@cosmicghost811]

That would be cheating, lol.

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@cosmicghost811 Fenrir is on his own side. He doesn't owe the Aesir any loyalty considering how they treated him. Even if Tyr was a reluctant accomplice in his imprisonment, his life is as forfeit as the rest

[@cosmicghost811]

@@madambutterfly1997 despite that, since he is from the Norse crew, it would count as a win for them.

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@cosmicghost811 even if they're all dead via friendly fire

[@cosmicghost811]

@@madambutterfly1997 yup.

[@alwaysplotting2096]

What's next? Loki vs Eris: Who is the better agent of chaos?

[@crist25ful]

My thing is. Since Thor actually is a lightning conductor. Zuses lighting bolts wouldn't do much to Thor if Thor redirects them or something. Again this is based on the premise that he indeed can produce thunder. Making Zuses one and only weapon mute.

[@teekay851]

Zeus has more than one weapon...

[@animefan3794]

With regards to “we know Thor can be killed”, in a way that might actually be a strength for him. The Norn’s prophecy about Ragnarok are supposed to be 100% absolutely and unchangable. In that sense, the argument could be made that Thor can’t die outside that context that the prophecy describes.

[@KlaverKatten]

Odin even tried numerous times to change fate, such as throwing Jormungandr down to Midgaard and Hel down to Hel. The prophecy is absolute, so it would have to be disregarded for a fair fight.

[@wyvern0m3g42]

Wasn't expecting a versus debate style of video, but it was enjoyable nonetheless. Always cool to see something new and different every once in a while. As for the debate itself, I can't help but feel Zeus may have too much in favor of him for Thor to win this one. Thor might have a chance depending on those certain factors brought up near the end, but I feel his temper will probably be his undoing at some point.

[@hanzohattori5980]

Thanks you mythology &fiction explained for the video 👍

[@sifilore9462]

All this sounds like Zeus is gonna win either way. If Thor does win its only by sheer dumb luck.

[@lunawolfheart336]

Sounds like you don't know much about Thor

[@thehellenicneopagan]

Sounds like you don't! LoL... 🤦🏻‍♀️😆 The one is Invincible, the other is NOT, you do the math.

[@pantelismat4352]

@@lunawolfheart336 sounds like you pick the one you like more

[@oblivion6891]

@@thehellenicneopagan Thor is fearless and Zeus is fear's Nyx and hecate 2 female goddess and Thor is not afraid to take on anyone and actually The only thing that can kill Zeus is the Scythe of Kronos

[@DarkoRavens]

​@@thehellenicneopagan Greek Gods are not immortal. They consume Ambrosia to sustain what passes for immortality in their world. They are no different from the Norse Gods with Iðunn.

[@TOXICTRIFORCE]

Zues

[@samuelmorin6655]

Alright. This was one of my favourite videos by you ! It was so entertaining and fresh. Could I recommend a Artemis vs Fenrir type of videos ? Or even a weird one but Freya vs Athena or something. Either way, keep up the good work

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

Overall I see Zeus winning. The greek gods in general have a lot more powers and abilities then the Norse ones. Zeus essentially has Thors strength plus more range plus shapeshifting plus the the ability to change the shape of others, plus potentially immortality and various other powers that I see giving him an edge. There are just many more ways for Zeus to win then there are ways for Tho0r to win.

[@ezrafaulk3076]

The story of Athena's birth from his forehead says he turned a woman he impregnated into a *fly* and swallowed her because someone prophesied that just as *he'd* done with his father Chronos, a child born to this woman would *kill* him and take his place, and that was his attempt to *thwart* it; and that's *how* Athena wound up springing from his forehead. So Zeus *can* in fact be killed.

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

@@ezrafaulk3076 Zeus never killed his father. He dethroned Kronon by cutting him up into pieces and putting him in Tartarus but Kronos is still alive. The myth was talking about Zeus being dethroned not actually killed. In the exact Athena story you mentioned Hephestes split Zeus skull open with an axe to free Athena and Zeus was fine afterwards. Even his first wife that he ate(who was also a god) he did not kill her. He fused with her becoming one with her and gaining all her wisdom and her shapeshifting powers. He did not turn her into a fly. She shapeshifted into one. It was more of a mutual thing where they became one together.

[@avollant]

I thought that Mjölnir would nullify Zeus' lightning or at least allowing Thor to redirect them back at Zeus..

[@bizzlesizzle2857]

There the same god and Santa 😂

[@humbelduff2916]

Yes, Zeus lifted a volcano, but Thor lifted the world serpent. In a different myth, he singlehandly lifted a cauldron that was 30km high, way taller than mt. Etna, and both of these was likely without his belt, as he only uses it in battle!

[@isaklal518]

That's false he did not lift the world serpent but a part of it when the giant Utgard Loki ask him to

[@humbelduff2916]

@@isaklal518 The serpent had been turned into a big cat. Thor lifted it as high as his hight allowed. It wasn’t the weight of the cat/serpent that was the problem, but the fact that it’s back stretched whenever he lifted. He had no trubble lifting it until he wasn’t tall enough to lift it any higher. If he was taller (not stronger) he would be able to lift it of the ground!

[@sablahedning]

thor is obviously imune to lightning, but i have never heard of zeus being imune to magical hammers

[@hulmhochberg8129]

thor almost drank the ocean once. and wrestled with old age itself.

[@xerxes_sama]

Very interesting topic. At the end of the day I believe Zeus will beat the lighting out of Thor

[@Uppernorwood976]

Zeus would smite Thor in a second, then impregnate all his female family members while in the form a sheep. Don’t try to claim this isn’t true.

[@thehellenicneopagan]

Not true! I must disagree, he prefers to do it in the shape of a Bull or Swan. 🕊️🐄

[@uselesshero.official]

Nah Zeus was badly injured by Typhon. And Thor killed norse version of Typhon ie Jormungndr/ world serpent but also died off injuries. I think Zeus might win but with high difficulty. Therefore hate to break your bubble of fun but it won't go like you imagine it would.

[@ljsmooth69]

I know I like Thor a lot but I think Zeus might add the upper hand

[@GingerObiWan]

When you said you weren't sure if Zeus could die, it reminded me of a story I came across when writing my final paper for philosophy. There was a serpent that fought Zeus, and if another God/Goddess (I think Athena, but I'm not 100% certain on that) hadn't shown up to save him, he would have died. Edit: You mentioned Typhon, that's who it was. Maybe next time I'll watch the whole video before I make a comment like this 😂

[@omniavanitas7893]

I'm not aware of any ancient account of the Typhon myth in which it is claimed that death was ever a possibility for Zeus. Do you have a source? With the very unique exception of the Orphic Dionysos who is torn to pieces, cooked and eaten but is eventually brought back to life, the Greek gods are explicitly and consistently called deathless in ancient Greek texts and there are no myths in which any god dies. Interestingly, it is said that there was a tomb of Zeus in Crete, but the ancients claimed that it was falsely attributed to him and modern scholars generally interpret this incongruity by the idea that in Crete Zeus had been identified with a local vegetation god who probably was born and died anually. In any case, the other Greeks strongly rejected the notion of a dead Zeus and the Cretans gained a reputation for being liars. Mortality and divinity were simply incompatible concepts in mainstream ancient Greek religion and mythology.

[@omniavanitas7893]

@@ACTIONxROMERO What stories are you talking about?

[@angelacooper8973]

It’s okay we’ve all done it

[@eduardo3030301]

In my opinion Zeus would be in a disadvantage of some sort due to the fact that he was GIVEN the power of lighting and thunder. while Thor's power is from BIRTH for my understanding of mythology.

[@PureVikingPowers]

Thor would destroy Zeus !

[@omniavanitas7893]

Do you suppose that any Greek god could have used the thunderbolt or the trident forged by the Kyklopes with the same effectiveness Zeus and Poseidon do? I think it's reasonable to assume that the weapons received by the sons of Kronos merely enhanced their natural abilities, rather than giving them new abilities from scratch.

[@7783DEATH]

As a sort of flip side to this, consider: fenrir vs typhon

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

Typhon is literally if hell and earth had a baby. Fenrir is a big wolf.

[@7783DEATH]

@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 I wouldn't say that. fenrir was big enough to eat the moon and killed odin.

[@aroma13]

@@7783DEATH didn't Skol and Hati eat the moon and the sun? It is said that once Fenrir was freed, he would open his mouth and run around the world with one jaw on the ground and the other on in the air eating everything before him

[@lordhades8025]

Technically, Thor is destined to die at Ragnarok. If Fate/Wyrd decrees it, Zeus would never be able to defeat Thor because it's not his time yet. Another thing I feel is important is the myth where Thor and Loki go and visit Utgard-Loki. In the myth, there are several instances where Thor is almost at Typhon's level of destructiveness. He swings his hammer and creates entire valleys in mountains, he lowers the ocean's water level by a lot in an effort to get drunk, he almost lifts Jormungandr (who is in the form of a cat) off the ground, establishing the world, and he is also able to stand his ground against Old Age temporarily. All of this is enough that Utgard-Loki, an incredibly powerful sorcerer and warrior is so scared that he hides his castle with illusions after Thor leaves. I feel this level of power could be enough to handle Zeus, maybe even knock him out of the sky. Which is all Thor really needs to do. Then he can wrestle Zeus and kill him. Even hold him long enough that a single solid blow from Mjolnir would be enough to kill Zeus.

[@limlam8584]

As a fan of Norse mythos, I'm afraid Zeus takes the dub on this one for simply just being more experienced than Thor, perhaps if Zeus were to face Odin, Norse might have a chance on that one

[@kronobis1239]

But isn’t thor the most powerful of the gods

[@b0r1ng25]

@@kronobis1239 no he isn’t he doesn’t stand a chance against odin or zeus

[@forgotten5889]

@@kronobis1239 yes unless we're including Magni

[@Awesomefy11]

@@kronobis1239 no

[@ugandanknuckles5813]

Zeus is powerful but wouldnt they both have a little immunity to lightning

[@molliethomas2585]

Epic Rap Battles Of History already settled this. Thor won, hands down.

[@Simplyjeaniek]

Also love your channel

[@roland5997]

This was very well done in my opinion,and definitely makes you think about the battle's outcome. You made some very good points so I think Zeus would inevitably be the victor. Please continue to make Battle Royales like this in the future.

[@madambutterfly1997]

I don't care Kratos will have both their names crossed off his list

[@MythologyFictionExplained]

[@KamiTenchi]

@@MythologyFictionExplained You ruined Kratos. 😒

[@MythologyFictionExplained]

@@KamiTenchi Cyclops Kratos cannot be stopped

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@MythologyFictionExplained and he'll have the all-father's head as well.

[@Friendship1nmillion]

@@MythologyFictionExplained Considering your response here I'm guessing you're *NOT* up for a Chris Rock Vs Will Smith #Video ▶️ , then ? 😉 😅👍

[@InvincibleSummer7]

Thor actually goes into battle and actively fights himself. I give this one to Thor

[@rokomarkov3077]

Hell no Zeus is a Sky Father Thor is not at that level yet

[@InvincibleSummer7]

@@rokomarkov3077 Technically Thor is a Sky Father too and Thor is regarded as the strongest of the Aesir. And again Thor fights one on one

[@kloassie]

Sure Zeus could throw lightning bolts and possibly even an unlimited amount. But what's he hoping to achieve by throwing lightning bolts at a(nother) god of thunder? Also, okay Zeus can lift a volcano. Now are there no examples of Thor's weightlifting strength, possibly without his belt Megingjord, other than lifting/throwing Mjölnir (of which we cannot estimate it's weight)?

[@Ironlacka]

He can lift a cup holding the whole ocean thats thors strength

[@MineNailCorn591]

Thor lifted the paw of a cat that was secretly Jormungand, if he would have lifted all 4 of them it would have altered reality, he also went fishing a giant named Hymir, he was only able to get his head out of the water, but that still impressive imo

[@33sosa85]

Zeus = Jupiter. Thor = Thorsday = Thursday. I believe they are the same thing in different version

[@ChetYoubetchya-it5zv]

Only difference being one could die and the other cant

[@Chainmale75]

I feel like it would be more of a tennis match, with both of them redirecting the lightning back at each other.

[@ChetYoubetchya-it5zv]

That should be a video game instead of tennis ball they use lightning

[@jerrmiahsalazar2326]

Giants vs dragons or Western dragons vs Easter dragons

[@soulreaver1983]

Absolutely outstanding video thanks!😎👍👍

[@zombiedewd8218]

They both use lighting they can just deflect each other's lighting there for only really leaves hand to hand so with that being said brings up more questions about the fight so yea

[@puffthemagicsativa3784]

I think it would honestly come down to pure strength with the hammer as the deciding factor. If Thor can redirect lighting and zuse control it masterfully than I would think it a moot point. Like 2 fish trying to drown one another in the ocean. The question would be who gets hit with mjolnir. In several sagas Thor can split mountain ranges with the throwing of his hammer. In his trial with the over king Thor barely picks up a dog's paw with all his might. But the paw is actually jormungand. If we did a ratio to determine what % of a dog's body weight relative to the body and compared it to a the weight of a python that could encircle the earth and run the % we may have an answer of who is stronger. Way to nerd I know but nerd is my thing

[@zrosix2240]

Also assuming the pythons width relative to its length (the circumstance of the earth) is proportional to a normal sized python.

[@zrosix2240]

Or in simple terms, 2/3rds of the weight of the moon

[@mikemackay3949]

A Odin vs Zeus would be a nice video

[@yahiashehata974]

Great idea for a video

[@ryomahoffman6803]

The interesting thing about the Norse gods is that they’re kind of just really advanced people with incredibly powerful magic

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

I believe the lighting bolts carried by pegasus were made by Hephaestus and were lesser than the bolt made by the cyclops

[@lunawolfheart336]

Thor cuz he's strongest of all gods. He's a giant slayer wielding moljnir. He can create his own lighting Zeus has to rely on another god to make his bolts.

[@madmank7881]

But what would happen if Zeus catches the Hammer would he beat the Living crap out of Thor

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

I just imagine them playing perpetual tug-of-war with it.

[@siyamekr.6511]

not really. Point he missed is Thor needs his belt to lift the hammer. But he forgot to mention that he has enough strength to lift the world serpent ( which is heavier than any volcano ) without his belt. So if you simplify them both, humanizing them ( as is done in the video ) Zeus would not be able to lift the hammer because he would need an enhancer of sort. But hey normally both of them are capable of flight, both of them are shapeshifters and both of them are absolute gods. It is kind of unnecessary to try to say which is stronger but I must admit, it is definitely fun.

[@madmank7881]

@@siyamekr.6511 I know the videos of this time because Zeus is way stronger if you're going by the evidence stated in his stories compare to Thor

[@WillScarlet16]

In their laid back moments, both Thor and Zeus have been said to be pretty jolly. Both of them have been suggested as a possible origin for Santa Claus.

[@mythology_]

Cool video. Thank you for the good content

[@KajiRider1997]

The answer is Indra. /joke

[@georgeskourtis3922]

I am Greek and i know the mythology of my country very well so i would like to share that Zeus of Olympous is what Odin of Asgard is

[@philmclitoris2304]

It would be like that scene from Ted. "Why don't come down here so I can kick your ass?" "Why don't you come up here and make me come down there?" Then a god from a third pantheon comes and Zeus and Thor ally themselves to face the other god, after which they go drink ale and wine at Dionysus's bar.

[@CT-nb5lm]

It would be more Thor vs Hercules. Or Zeus vs Odin. And imo they are all equal. The Aesir being more battle hardened imo.

[@FB-eg5vb]

Agreed! Hurcules vs Thor would be a more even fight. This is the equivalent of Hurcules vs Odin

[@bwalker77]

If Thor has some sort of lightning resistance - a possibility, considering he is the God of lightning (even if it's not on the same scale as Zeus) - then he may have a chance because of Mjolnir. Otherwise, he's not really on the same level. That being said, if he could convince Loki to transform him into a pretty woman, Zeus would not stand a chance. His libido is an even bigger weakness than his ego...

[@J1P2K]

Did anyone get Epic Rad Battle thoughts when watching this?

[@c.jfrank5699]

I think its Zeus for sure. Very fun topic though I hope you do more.

[@saberlily1954]

So on the subject of Typhoeus and you can say this about a lot of Greek myths is that depending on the source it changes. Certain retellings of the story have Zeus defeating Typhoeus with great ease, pretty sure in the Theogony its written that Zeus simply leapt from Olympus and smote Typhoeus with a single thunderbolt that maimed the monster and turned the ground to slag and caused the planet to shake and then banished him to Tartarus. Honestly the Greeks do treat Zeus as borderline almighty, even the Iliad has line after line of the entire pantheon going "Zeus is so fucking strong and we cant do shit against him." Like Athena threw SICILY at a giant and still considers Zeus basically invincible. ""Our Father, son of Cronus, high and mighty, we already know your power, far too well...who can stand against you?"" -Athena

[@elmono6299]

Here are some suggestions for future videos. European Dragon vs Chinese Dragon Unicorn vs Qilin Chimera vs Manticore Werewolf vs Yeti (or Sasquatch) Zombie vs Mummy Griffin vs Hippogriff Minotaur vs Tikbalang Phaya Naga vs Hydra Centaur vs Nuckelavee Mermaid vs Siren Kitsune vs Succubus Leprechaun vs Genie Frankenstein vs Golem Gargoyle vs Tengu Cyclops vs Oni Nang Tani vs Yuki-Onna Grey Alien vs Flatwoods Monster Headless Horseman vs Dullahan Bloody Mary vs La Noria Hades vs The Grim Reaper Vampire vs Angel Cthulu vs Satan

[@TheSpoegefugl]

Another reason why this is difficult to answer: There are different version of the myths. Thor doesn't always need his belt to be strong enough to wield the heavy Mjolnir. Sometimes, he only needs hos gloves because the handle is so short that it would hurt his hands to hold it. Sometimes he need neither.

[@mitchelljohnson1621]

I would love to see a video on Hades VS. Surtr

[@raptormage2209]

The perverted Thunder god vs the Drunken-hammer style thunder god.

[@TheRevanchrist]

as much as want to see Zeus get his butt kicked, he was a supreme deity of the Greek and Roman sphere of influence. while the other Olympians had their own domain/authority, Zeus could just as well fill in those roles if he choses.

[@kryptonianpowers]

You should make another video about every single god of thunder derived from the Council of Godheads that is featured in Marvel Comics.

[@che71che]

But wouldn't Thor be able to use minnor as a conduit for Zeus's lighting? He'd redirect it back to him at will? With this being the probable case then Zeus's bolts would be useless against Thor, Zeus would have to take up his spear which would force him to try and get closer up to Thor but with Thor being able to fly and still able to harness lighting then don't you think the odds begin to favour Thor? All he'd have to do is keep his Hammer throws short at Zeus, as long as it returns into his hand before Zeus can summon and throw a bolt his way when he's not got it in hand then Thor should be home and hosed

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

I finally realized what my problem is with the God of War Thor design. He’s so pale. Thor gets his hands dirty, he entertains himself by going out and killing things. I think he should look dirtier.

[@thirdplanet4471]

Thor shouldn't look dirtier he should look bloodier

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

@@thirdplanet4471 a little chest hair wouldn’t hurt either.

[@DSnalomega]

Just thinking about Vikings way of warfare I'm pretty sure Thor is a scary guy

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

The ONE that is referred to as “IAM” ... THATS WHO! The rest are whelps fighting at his feet.

[@peropero2307]

Thor is not only thunder god, he control earth magetic field + if u gonna give a horse to zeus give one to thor as well, i think thor wins cuz he is god of str as well, so i think zeus could not be abled to filt mjolnir

[@171QA]

Cool video. Hope you make more of these. :)

[@killerstorm9962]

I love your videos

[@howardhavardramberg333]

The thing is, Zeus would kill Thor, but doubtless Thor would do his damndest to take him with him.

[@neme6496]

If both gods are god of thunder, I think it’s fair to say they are immune to lightning in order to use it. Since Zeus doesn’t have any other weapon than lightning he’s at a disadvantage, and if Zeus lose the range advantage, I don’t see him winning

[@PureVikingPowers]

Thor would destroy Zeus !

[@richardmorgan3665]

@@neme6496 Yeah but then you'd have to assume both of them are even and idk I think Odin would be more of a match for Zeus. Also even if the Zeus is stronger and for some reason his lightning doesn't work (I don't think they would be immune to lightning, I just think they would resist it) Zeus could just transform into something that could do damage to Thor like a form that's good at close range fights and have a good old bare knuckle fist fight.

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

@@neme6496 zeus literally buried the titan of monsters (typhon) by throwing a mountain on top of him. Plus zeus has his aegis which athena placed the head of medusa on

[@neme6496]

@@richardmorgan3665 I don’t know why you think they would resist each other lightning, but ok. If Zeus shapeshifs into something that would be better in close combat, what would that be? The poison of Jormungandr killed Thor, even if we say Zeus know Jormungandr I doubt he would be able to kill Thor since I doubt he would be able to copy the poison of Jormungandr, if you have any other idea let me know

[@christopherlopez-rios574]

I heard that Zeus, played by Russell Crowe, will make an appearance on Thor Love and Thunder!! Can’t wait to see how that comes to happen!!!

[@piercecronin6547]

Zeus Is more powerful

[@monkewithinternetaccess6107]

Has Zeus visibly lowered the ocean level in 3 sips?

[@cha5]

@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 Plus Thor was actually able to partially lift The Midguard Serpent, something no other living being could do.

[@2silver144]

@@cha5 In norse mythology

[@chris30555]

@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 He could literally transform into a giant and easily do it lol.

[@mattstyles2498]

I like to think mythology are true stories blown way out of proportion. Like thor was just a dude with a normal hammer that got bitten smashing a normal rattlesnake. Then people started saying the snake was bigger and bigger.....

[@alphamorion4314]

Wait... didn't ERB already tackled this?

[@madambutterfly1997]

The controversy of the myth accurate Thor and the non myth accurate Angrboda is getting on my nerves. Honestly if they didn't do the change for Angrboda then you would've thought that Atreus had a sister.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

As a true nord..., nordic, I am obligated put my faith in Thor!

[@masteryoda7366]

It would be a really fun fight to see 😄

[@legoking6165]

This is definitely a fight I'd like to see. Though, a question I have in regards to this hypothetical match-up is, would these two deities be capable of weilding each others magic weapons?

[@irishogre8424]

They aren't deities

[@irishogre8424]

Holy shit no need to write a fucking book

[@irishogre8424]

Kleine you didn't need to write a book

[@gmanbelieves6513]

Okay putting my two cents in to this hypothetical battle. Couple of points were left out or didn't get considered, ONE, Thor is the God of lighting, unlike Zeus Thor literally catches lighting and is a conductor of lightning, which right there nullifies Zeus's lighting bolts, Thor could not only take all of Zeus's lighting but send it back at Zeus, not including also using his hammer as a weapon, and even if Zeus did catch it the hammer and belt work as one unit, so Thor would just be able to catch Mjölnir with no problem. Second Zeus is not immortal, if he was he would not have needed to free the Cyclops from Tartarus and the other caged titans that Cronos left locked in the pit to help defeat Cronos and his brothers, plus the Cyclops created Zeus's and the other gods weapons for them, they like the Nordic gods used technology as away to enhance there strengths/powers. So it really just came down to who is stronger in the end, and we know Zeus cheated at everything he did so it would be very unlikely that Zeus would ever fight a fair fight, he might actually try to transmutate Thor into some Nephilum/chimera since that seems the only real power they seem to posses because that's pretty much all they did to humans when they found them to be disrespectful to the gods, now one advantage Zeus would have is that he was a giant, not a titan size giant but maybe 15ft to 25ft range, but again Thor was use to fighting giants so not much of a real advantage for Zeus. One other note is that when Zeus fought Typhon a second time, Typhon was fed a poison piece of fruit that was given to him by the three witches which reduced his strength to Zeus's level, again this shows that Zeus could not win in a fair fight against any foe. And it was obviously couldn't kill Typhon either or he like Typhon just wanted to torture him. So if I were a betting man my money would have to go to Thor in a straight out one on one fight, it's not that I favor either one, they were just advanced beings not really gods by any means but Zeus has really never won any real fight on his own were as Thor has multiple times

[@ChetYoubetchya-it5zv]

I guess they both cancel eachother out in a few things but zeus is pretty much the equivalent if not probably a bit stronger than odin and odin can easily beat thor but zeus has won battles before some with help and some without in homers iliad you see just how powerful zeus is and has said to beat gaia and typhon in the second round by himself cause zeus can in some ways control fate

[@gmanbelieves6513]

@@ChetYoubetchya-it5zv Yes but thats kind of a maybe about controlling fate, and that's human fate not another equals, actually Zeus and Odin are really the same God, but let's just keep them separate for now, Zeus still doesn't have any real advantages over Thor that I can see, he's one of those mythical gods that if you read between lines he is really pretty average, he literally has to cheat to win, that's why I said in a straight up fight Thor would probably wipe the floor with Zeus, because Zeus just has no advantage using his lighting against Thor, just strength and we do not know eithers power level, but they both fought titans so they are no weaklings thats for sure, also DEPENDING on where you get your information Thor can tap into the Odin power as well, since technically he is Odins son. I mean Zeus outside a couple of fights always had to get help to win a battle where as Thor for the most part fought battles on his own, bit there was that time Loki did have to save him when he lost Mjölnir so he had to dress Thor up like a woman to steal it back from the giants, so this is where the mythology has issues, but I don't believe he had his power belt so he could call Mjölnir back. But as far as the Zeus and Thor battling goes who really knows. Neither are push overs.

[@blackbeauty5817]

Zues would most definitely defeat Thor, zues experiences much less limitations and with the addition of shape shifting the outcome is obvious

[@jeffreyseamons5514]

Whenever two characters are pitted against other people want to be able to say who the definitive winner would be. However, the characters are often matched up because they are so similar. So instead I like to talk about who is more likely to win and who is the underdog (meaning they could still succeed, but it's going to be difficult). In this case I'd say Thor is the underdog. However, he's also the one I want to win.

[@nativeam25]

Great point. I'd like to see the hindu God's vs the Greek ones.

[@JDisclmd]

@@nativeam25 shiva is the god of all gods not a challenge

[@nativeam25]

@@JDisclmd mmhm

[@JDisclmd]

@@nativeam25 I mean it’s true. Shiva is the most powerful god. Shiva isn’t even a being shiva is everything and anything. Ps third eye

[@nativeam25]

@@JDisclmd okay. Since they have avatars. Those can fight. Fair?

[@robertsimpson7424]

I would like to know what Thor's strength is without his belt. If they both have comparable base line strength. Then we would have a good laugh at the scene of Zeus grabbing mjolnir and getting dragged along. Better yet Zeus dropping out of the sky, trying to hold mjolnir. This would also spell trouble for Zeus if Thor manages to grab ahold of him.

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

Not really zeus is incredibly strong and skilled as he depending on the version grappled with typhon and equaled Heracles in strength and skill when they wrestled

[@robertsimpson7424]

@@durrangodsgrief6503 Thor's also pulled Jormungandr, the world serpent, from the depths of the ocean. Without knowing how that physically stacks up, getting serious about this is meaningless.

[@Saikotic]

Would a thunder god be immune to thunderbolts?

[@lionofolympus8835]

Do more like this, Vs battle