Zilla Cabs - Vertical 2x12s

In this weeks video we talk through the concept of a vertical speaker cabinet and the options that come along with them. We used a small selection of the vertical cabs that we offer, but the ideas and functionality transfers over to any good vertical cab.
We talk through the ideas but also recorded all four cabs so you can hear how they sound.
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Gear use: PRS Mira, Marshall JMP, dito looper and various other pedals.
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[@stephenatgraceland]

The playing and recording quality is excellent on this video. The M Creambacks sound particularly alive.

[@GodlessSuns]

Awesome, absolutely adore mine. Zilla 4 Life

[@ZillaCabs]

I wish I had had time to film yours, I loved it!

[@GodlessSuns]

@@ZillaCabs I keep promising you a quality audio/video clip don't I.... sorry, I'll get round to it. It'd be nice to hear some more of your cabs demo'd with low tuned guitars, maybe I could pop down sometime in the future and do some for you?? Let me know :)

[@whisperthiefmusic]

Dumb question time... is there any reason itd be a bad idea to use a horizontal 2x12 on its side as a vertical cab? Looks aside I mean..

[@ZillaCabs]

@@whisperthiefmusic there are no dumb questions mate, I guarantee for ever "dumb question" asked there are a hundred other people thinking the exact same thing. In short no, the cabs are very similar and will act very similar too..... dedicated vertical cabs are normally based on a horizontal design but will just haves handles, jack plate etc in a slight different place... Speakers maybe more centered in a vertical cab but this is all small stuff, the overall design is the big thing...... I often put a Fatboy 2x12 on its end .

[@givemeajackson]

@@GodlessSuns ok now i gotta know what you ordered

[@fabriziogabriele1836]

You guys are the best and your videos are very useful. I wanted to answer a video on the best 2x12 combination for a sound that cover the srv/mayer/bluesy style and something more crunchy sound, but not too heavy. The G12-65, in your video is very resonate on high frequency, "very bell", but horrible and really useless as soon as it starts crunching. So it will be a great idea, for bluesy sound, mix it up most of the loudspeaker, like Vintage 30 + Creamback or Gold Alnico + Greenback or G12-65 + Greenback, etc etc... With a just a couple of chords and G/B/m at 12th fret licks for a 10/15 seconds each one to tast them more possible. Imho the better solution its test them with a Strat and a Marshall Jmp clean/breakup sound. Thank you and cheers.

[@ZillaCabs]

Thanks Fabrizio, that is very kind of you. I will get Joe on it, any excuse to let him loose on that kind of stuff. It sounds like a really interesting test... we are looking at setting up a stereo pair of mics for a more in room vibe.

[@fabriziogabriele1836]

@@ZillaCabs thanks a lot. I was thinking something above Vintage 30 (the best seller and more flexible loudspeaker in the market + G12h30 anniversary or G12-65 or greenback/creamback, etc. Cheers

[@MarkJPerry]

Great video - you can hear the subtle differences - the extra physical volume of the orange cab giving that meaty authority of a 4x12.. but some of that still coming through in the angled... hmmm ... choices, choices!!!

[@ZillaCabs]

Thanks Mark. Yeah there is a lot of choice haha, I still prefer straight front vertical cabs, just, as they sound a bit more focused to be, but the angled top speaker does give you more variety when recording... I think a lot of this is down to personal preference.

[@paulcowart3174]

@@ZillaCabs So was wondering for a vert would you put a different spk on the bottom as opposed to the top ? What would you say is a good mix if you wanted to mix n match ? Thanks guys love the show

[@jasonmills3503]

I have a zilla vert 2x12 in wine snake skin and it's is a thing of beauty that's for sure. Got a couple of Warehouse speakers in there and it goes without saying that it sounds amazing. Not light mind, but manageable.

[@ZillaCabs]

Thanks Jason, I'm glad you like it. Always good to hear kinds words ;)

[@PK22-b7v]

Which particular speakers ?

[@timbennett6644]

the Panhead sounds lovely...

[@ZillaCabs]

Thanks for that Tim, I want to do a few more videos with it in to really show off what it can do.

[@firststep7750]

You gave me an idea: it'll be entertaining to see a replication of Stone Henge using 2x12 vertical full stacks.

[@ZillaCabs]

tonehenge.

[@firststep7750]

@@ZillaCabs The sound - inside the Tonehenge - would be exZILLArating.:)

[@ZillaCabs]

@@firststep7750 haha I like it

[@gcvrsa]

2x12 verticals are the best guitar speaker systems. You get the depth of a two-driver cab, but the horizontal dispersion of a vertical array. Horizontal 2x12s and 4x12s are the worst for dispersion. And angling the top driver is not ideal, because that reduces horizontal dispersion.

[@ZillaCabs]

I still like a 4x12 in the right situation.

[@mikeflanders1292]

Awesome wall paper in the background. This filmed at my grandmother's house??

[@ZillaCabs]

Hand made in the UK, like all good wall paper used to be ;)

[@paulcowart3174]

Well a JCM800 combo would fit perfect or any combo with a speaker out I like the Pan head So yeah you could have 3 spks w a vert and combo Which is manageable

[@ZillaCabs]

That's a great way of doing it! Thanks for watching.

[@sm43g96]

Hi zilla cabs! I have a question,would you be able to make a 4x12 cab with celestion f12-x200s for a fractal audio axe fx 3 set up or would a 212 be better option? Thanks and I love what i see and hear so far! keep up great work!!

[@cardbored_]

The Vertical 2x12 is the new 4x12 IMO. Unless you're playing arenas, you don't need a 4x12 cab and why destroy your own back by lugging around 4x12 cabinets? Most of us haven't even been gigging like we used to anyway, so a 2x12 just makes WAY more sense and to me, I feel like the 2x12 sounds just as good or better atleast for the type of music I play.

[@adamtimbrell]

I'm a big fan! Where can I buy hoodies and t-shirts?

[@ZillaCabs]

Thanks for that Adam. We are just re-doing all our merch at the moment, we should have an online shop going up towards the end of November. Thanks for the kind words!

[@erkpalm]

The Panhead is super siq! How does it handle heavier tones with the open back?

[@ZillaCabs]

Thanks Eric, it handles alright for heavier playing, but if you are pushing the gain up and need a bit more of a tight low end response you can always go for a closed back version, they sound nuts!

[@philscanlan7321]

@@ZillaCabs Any chance theres an open/closed version of the Panhead? Would love the flexibility of choosing open and closed on this kind of cab!

[@levijessegonzalez3629]

all else being similar what difference does a bigger / smaller depth / height bring?

[@tzechbuilds]

Where do you get your speaker cover mats?

[@sutt5828]

Just put the upright on its side with a plexi sorted it now fits

[@ZillaCabs]

Glad it is working for you Ben.

[@sutt5828]

@@ZillaCabs brought a plexi and had no choice Haha

[@ZillaCabs]

@@sutt5828 if you get desperate you can often put them in a smaller head shell... unless it is a 100watter

[@sutt5828]

@@ZillaCabs 100 watt super lead man its all chassi Haha

[@bayuagni6047]

Which one that fit for diezel VH4s?

[@ZillaCabs]

Sorry for the slow response. They would all work well with VH4 (we have one in the workshop) but the trouble is that is a large, full size head so really needs a horizontal cab, or 4x12 so it can physically sit on top.

[@genekloszewski4526]

where zilla, from, new name any resale value?

[@ZillaCabs]

We're based in the UK although we're not all that new, we started in 2006. As for resale value it seems pretty good.

[@runnningonempty]

2 1x12's make more sense, I dont know why they are not popular

[@ZillaCabs]

They are really practical. We have a few customers using them but I think the added cost of having two cabs puts a few people off.

[@runnningonempty]

@@ZillaCabs I would think 2 fat bay's loaded with a vintage 30 and G12m 65 cream back would be the smartest move.used together or separately for almost anything you would want to cover..Have you ever ran 2 fat babys against a 4x12..we have to be talking apples to apples here.

[@ZillaCabs]

@@runnningonempty we have had quite a few players go from 4x12s to a pair of Fatbabys... the down side is you are going to be pushing less air and you lose a little bit of the impact from that, there is also a small loss in the lower frequencies but not much. Practically they are so much easier and I don't think spread of sound is any worse at all. That is a good way to go.

[@runnningonempty]

@@ZillaCabs Being able to plug one into a Hot rod deluxe/super reverb or plug one or both into a Dual rec/5150 ..or even run all together in a wet dry seems to blow away the 4x12 idea...Thank you for your help.Do you have a distributor in the USA?

[@russellesimonetta3835]

The oval back cab was designed by DUMBLE!! HE calls it a tuned cabinet.

[@ZillaCabs]

Hi Russell, I know he was the one to popularise it but the oval opening in the back was a feature on a fair few old hifi's and little combos in the 50's. Thanks for watching.