Hal Reveals What Was Going On With Verhulst

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Timestamps:
00:00 Recap
00:45 Hal Reacts to Raven
05:25 Hal Thoughts on Verhulst

[@rickyg8750]

every players wants to quit apex at some point

[@thefurmidablecatlucky3]

it's Apex, so it would be hard to not want to quit at some point

[@elsamurai1220]

One of the big reasons its hard to quit is because theres no alternative fps to play.

[@redzone4412]

@@elsamurai1220genuinely it’s either fort, Cod, or valorant / Csgo maybe over watch which is just shambles

[@elsamurai1220]

@@redzone4412 The only one I'm interested in right now is xdefiant.

[@Varlei.-]

Stop going to the gym and having a routine is wild.

[@TheNewThrone]

I actually would judge someone who DIDNT want to quit apex

[@SenatorTacos]

100

[@jns08d]

Man this apex soap opera arc is very interesting to say the least lmao

[@Jah.Jah.Saint777]

Blame it on Samantha

[@SageModeObito242]

Underrated comment 🤣🤣🤣

[@Fxlez]

LMFAO

[@SirTopHat_]

This is getting blown so out of proportion. Burn outs happen, it's normal especially at their level. What he needed was a break, sounds like they all did tbh but the timing didn't allow it.

[@DeconstructU2124]

verhulst said raven fell off, raven said verhulst had no motitvation,hal agreed, u must be new to scrims if ths is this blown out of porportion to u

[@jamiep4674]

@@DeconstructU2124Considering his comment has likes and yours doesn’t. Would appear everyone disagrees with you.

[@DrkStarz]

@@jamiep4674you have zero likes to his 1 like

[@elijahperry3454]

It’s funny bc this is the first time Evan has had any drama in like 2-3 years

[@lizhang9807]

dam feels bad for evan, depression is cray cray ... ppl might think depression is you feeling sad, depression is actually you stopping doing the things you used enjoy doing, and you stop doing everything if it gets really bad....

[@zafraan3038]

Depression or Burnout?

[@CLNAW]

@@zafraan3038 depends. Burnout is when you don’t enjoy one thing in my opinion but if you try to just power through burnout it can lead to depression or a depressive episode.

[@xanira6367]

not you calling depression "cray cray" lmfoa im sorry i deal with shit too but thats funny

[@fizz_time7003]

Nah depression. Depression is like you not feeling sad but just not feeling like doing basic things like waking up and brushing your teeth. You just end up not feeling like doing anything. You can feel burnout for one particular thing but still be ok to do everything else.

[@Fence-Dogs-More]

He took unhealthy amounts of adderall. He has addiction issues

[@sppl623]

hal calling raven out for repeating the same few points is hilarious

[@drdrio90]

Hal sayd raven was right. Hal left because of Even

[@nojithan]

Yeah, the two of them say the same shit about 7 times before they move onto a new subject.

[@soda1741]

@@drdrio90Hal never said he left TSM because of raven 🤦‍♂️

[@drdrio90]

@@soda1741 learn to read. Not Raven. Because of Even!

[@slylockfox85]

5:16 Hal also seems kind of dense here. Pretty sure Raven doesn't want to name drop and get Hal in trouble.

[@mitchyymendonca4054]

Rank got too much hackers and that alone would make u wanna stop playing apex

[@shiki494]

Depression is not a joke and people need to understand that playing the same shit over and over again for five years straight is just exhausting. Plus being a streamer doesnt make you live a full life, you have a shit ton of money yeah, but you just sit on your pc so many hours a day losing so many things outside and you are basically losing the best years of your life. So I understand Evan and his toughts are very mature. I hope the guy gets through it and will be happy whatever he pursue.

[@OrangeSoda1432]

He’s not depressed, he’s being a lazy bastard. Do that at work and you getting fired my boy. Take the depression shit to the therapist not to your job.

[@ThePatriots1959]

While I dont agree with what he said, Tbf to Evan, he got asked to compare is current coach with his ex coach who objectively is a much more tenured coach. He didn't want to shit on his current coach so he had to find a way to say that they were close in terms of ability.

[@Kishimita7204]

He couldn’t just said he didn’t have answer. Or also give raven credit when it was him that was lacking passion for the game.

[@dangelotaylor2149]

It's not what he said but how he said it. He could have said I vibe with one coach over the other more. He could have said one coach has a preferred style of coaching I like more. But they are still young and on the grandest stage of them all and has social platform.

[@MsPango123]

Tbf to him, he did say they all fell off and not just Raven.

[@tannerw5011]

he’s not good with media, and a lot of this is we the people fault for asking a drama filled question. idk why more people aren’t mentioning this, i commented it on another vid

[@urwrldluv]

S/O Gen “Not the first brother” when Hal said Evan wanted to quit. Pretty sure a lot of apex pros have thought of quitting this shitty game.

[@z1mo7204]

"phillip" at 5:41 sent me 💀

[@GerryLo5198]

Evan is a goat, so are Hal and Jordan. The expectations for them were always sky high. I can see how easily the game became a chore for Evan, instead of fun. He did say the game could feel like a job for him sometimes. Honestly I think a nice long break from the game could have done him wonders. But that’s not possible in this current pro scene. It’s either play the game, or get left behind.

[@darthbane6021]

After this coming out I agree with Hal’s decision wholeheartedly. If both of your teammates aren’t putting in the same work you are i can see why that would be frustrating. He thought his team didn’t have passion anymore and did what was best for him. Best of luck to Hal but I won’t be giving up on Big E. He’s young and just went through a dark time. I think Hal leaving was a HUGE wake up call for him.. hopefully he gets reps in the same mode.

[@soldiers360]

Raven ego is insane, dude literally took over a championship team with the best igl, top 2 fraggers and the best support player in reps. (arguably) . And thinks it was because of him.

[@Ben-nx6pd]

The best IGL in the game stood up on the stage after winning, getting 2nd and winning again in one year and everytime said that Raven was the biggest reason they stayed at the top. The guy has an ego but youre just wrong

[@OrangeSoda1432]

@@Ben-nx6pdhe’s dick riding Evan. If that was Hal, they’d be shitting on him. Since it’s Mr nice guy, it’s okay to be a complacent mediocre player.

[@mcdonaldsmanager6976]

Idk if everybody just lost their fuckin memory or some shit. But not once did any player on AAAAND out of TSM has ever said Raven was a bad coach. Everybody, the fans, the org, the fucking players, and your grandmother called Raven the best addition to the team as a coach. Now when they separate and start “talking shit” ya’ll just act like that shit never happened. Fuck it let’s act like TSM was never good to begin with. You guys are the epitome of bandwagon dipshits

[@Greeey]

Hal also said that raven retaught him macro from the ground up and contributed a lot of their success to him

[@nuriasilva9878]

The tea is getting spilled

[@yashawal]

Hal missed the part where raven gassed him up so hard lol

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

this is why you should always have all sides of the story and not jump to conclusions based souly on your feelings and "friendship/fanhood" for a player.

[@GMilstead102]

idk if the whole "quitting the game" take holds much water whenever reps has been notorious for not playing the game. And no disrespect to jordan, but thats an odd complaint.

[@mcdonaldsmanager6976]

Also considering he plays the more demanding mechanical input in the game

[@arthurlamora8520]

Hal is absolutely right its comp its not personal u wanna win or u wanna be nice

[@solomonbacon8893]

hal just keeping it real as possible.

[@Unforgivenn]

you can 100% see how much the passion changed with TSm after hal left. you could tell even didn't really seem happy to play

[@ROKE_89]

maybe the fact that hal quit was a bit of a wake up call to Reps and Verhulst to play more

[@toxicmurda2916]

evan got on them percs and said fawk it 😂

[@DiilemmaOf2AM]

5:39 🤣

[@vakral9997]

Evan stated yesterday that it just wasn't fun playing with Hal anymore in general. I've quit games I played with friends because they were too intense/whiny and made the games feel no fun anymore, so I think that sentiment is valid. I could imagine it would feel even worse when your income and job rely on you playing with someone who makes the game feel less enjoyable.

[@BigGucciSosa22]

I love Esports but the fact that all the players are streamers/personalities ruins it for me sometimes. telling strangers on the internet everything about everything has become normalized and I just find it weird. Sharing insignificant things like this is just very highschooly and cringe. idk

[@zbaitl]

Adding this while im only at 7:16 but I personally questioned why verhulst was dying soo much right before the team change and probably some others. It felt weird cause he is cracked no one argues that, but he was going down almost every match and in ways that a gold would like me. Not the goat. Also it probably feels so scary if you want to step away from something that is probably a hogh point in ur life. The accolades, the friends and community, just having something to do and be good at it. Even if your hurting its terrifying to step away. I just personally dealt with this so its just a guess I really have no clue im not verhulsts friend. Would be sick tho. Hes why I played valkarie even after the nerfs😢❤

[@arctictropic1147]

I would too if Raven was my coach. Dude has weird takes and became this egotistical doche.

[@drdrio90]

You are not pro anyway😂😂 Even is the reason Hal left. So stfu

[@jacobgreene4331]

" i didnt want to play tdms with tsm bc it doesnt help the team, they could've played them without me" " i play tdms with falcons, not because it helps the team, but just so i can play with my teamates" Said right after eachother, maybe hal just didnt want to play with tsm, bjt they are still friends, so maybe im digging too much.

[@okene]

Hal was TSM IGL. Both hal and verhulst have remarked that playing ranked ranked with him was stressful because he malds too much. Perhaps he didn't want to play TDM with them because he didn't wanna be that guy that's always mad and always antagonized

[@jacobhaws9458]

Except that he was self-aware and did say they ALL fell off. I could be wrong, but I bet if Vurhulst wanted to quit, it was only because of Hal, considering he starting play way more as soon as Hal left.

[@DarkPlatinm27]

1. Raven wouldn’t be able to help anything about Verhulst playing more. When your strategy sucks, playing more by itself won’t fix that. Raven is not a good coach and his next few teams will show it. 2. It sucks that Verhulst stopped having drive to play the game and that can be attributed to a number of factors. I’m glad that everyone is seemingly happy with the decisions that have been made. (Aside from Raven because again, he wanted to ride that TSM wave as long as he could) 3. This is purely my conjecture but it seems interesting when Hal says he’s angry that Verhulst is playing more now. It’s almost like Verhulst has lost one of the reasons that made him not want to play 🤷🏽‍♂️😂 It seems like maybe all the behaviors that kept getting swept under the rug as “teammates banter” might not have been just that. But when you are successful, everyone ignores it until you’re not. I think Hal and Verhulst as a team was always on borrowed time, much like Sweet and Gild. Being called out by the Hindsight King after every game that goes wrong wears you down. I’d imagine watching Verhulst now he’s much more lively and the vibes are up. If he wanted to quit, wouldn’t his best opportunity have been now? Hal leaves and Raven is out. The team is in a rebuild and if you were done with the game, why go through the effort of the rebuild? 🤷🏽‍♂️ just my opinion but everyone is happy so it’s a win win

[@mcdonaldsmanager6976]

I agree with everything but Raven being a bad coach, at least during his time in TSM. Not much to say to back up my argument other than the fact all 3 players during that TSM run said he was a great coach up until the time these changes were being made. Its up to the organization and the players to determine whether or not Raven is a good coach. Not a fan no offense though

[@thydevdom]

It was a weird thing to say, but he was also asked a question and just answered it. Lol

[@JKR0CK1]

did evan want to quit to play a different game? what was he doing if not playing

[@drumbum9963]

Is Raven the Doc Rivers of Apex?

[@SenatorTacos]

Verhulst is the sane person and understands there is no futrue in this game.

[@simonisdanilo3950]

How you know??

[@SenatorTacos]

@@simonisdanilo3950 Being a professional in the Apex Legends Pro League is not financially sustainable due to the nature of the career. There is insufficient financial support in esports, making it difficult to meet personal financial responsibilities.

[@illyaaqasha5387]

and surprise he still played the game

[@SenatorTacos]

@@illyaaqasha5387 indeed, peer pressure is an actual thing.

[@FalcoTheFinesser]

Ur dumb

[@vatop1304]

apex civil war phase one

[@FullDieselHug]

This just reinforces to me that the chemistry on TSM had soured beyond repair. You could hear it in Evan and Jordan’s voices every time Hal freaked out on them, they just sounded like all the fun had been drained out of it for them. Even Wigg has pointed out how much happier Jordan has sounded since they split. Sounds like there were a number of small things that festered until they contaminated the whole vibe. And tbh, if I have to play a game alongside some dude who’s flipping his lid and blaming me for every little mistake, even the ones he makes, I’m not going to want to play either. Kinda sucks to hear all these dudes talking smack on each other but tbh that looked like how things were going down when Hal announced he was leaving. Hard to not take “I didn’t get more money for playing with Zero and Gen, it all comes down to who I want to play with” as a bit of a slap in the face to Evan and Jordan.

[@thumbwreckage585]

Few things that came to mind for me: Even is young; saying he shouldn’t have to be told to boot up the game is wild. He is young and idk maybe NEEDS A COACH to coach him in life (or a game) *ahem* your fucking job* Next: you are the coach, a coach pretty much manages the team from what he can see in the game play, so you manage them. Managers need to have compassion for their team. Sure you could argue it’s just a job to Raven but you’d think you would want to sit down and talk to the teammate that’s failing and help them feel better in life. This isn’t an office or a kitchen job. It’s a team based video game. If a player isn’t doing well, take the time to check on them. Lastly: I keep thinking of the clip that NiceWig posted saying they were on their way back from some tournament and Evan couldn’t wait to get into the firing range and practice. That clip showed that Evan cares and that others are like “yo take a break dude”. Bonus: your mad that he said you fell off a little. Instead of taking that and thinking about it you just turned around and blamed him. Kinda crazy honestly.

[@machxisgaming3409]

I dont blame verhulst here if he was burnt out mid pro league means during that time until recent finals, he had no passion playing apex. well i can tell bcux his shots was not hitting like how he first joined tsm and compared to when they win algs champs previously. Verhulst could have say his opinions constructively better but i guess he just blurt out whatever feelings he had piled up. If he needs to take a break and play less apex, maybe try other games, i dont mind. Take care of his Mental health is important than satisfying ppl's desire atp.

[@uncagedmnc956]

He’s young so yea he didn’t handle it the best but at least he’s honest. This’ll be a learning lesson for him as he gets older

[@HiroToHero]

Just like what happened with Wattson, if you don't want to play you need to just not play. You can't just be a like "yeah yeah I'll put in work" and not put in work or do half ass when everyone except you put in thousands of hours grinding, looking at vods, thinking of new strat, etc... This isn't elementary school where you promise your teacher that you'll do your homework and you end up not doing it and teacher just goes you naughty boy and you say "hehe". This is their livelihood and yes it's the same video game we also play but they do it for a living with a PAID SALARY. Not only is it super disrespectful to his teammates but also to all other players who would kill to get the opportunity to play in a tier 1 org with very sustainable salary and exposure. After all it's non of our business but it surprised me since I didn't think Big E was a kind of a guy to say stuff like that about his formal teammates. Maybe the stress from not performing well these couple of weeks with the new team is getting to him but hope it all gets resolved soon. my bad for the essay.

[@wildouter]

weirdo

[@Energyswordsunday]

​@@wildouter???

[@brandoncoleman4013]

Your right but the real problem here in the orgs themselves. They need to have overseers that know what's up and think about what Raven said even he's not the head coach who has control over the roster he can't threaten the players with losing their job or being fired or dropped which Is a major issue. The esports orgs in general very rarely have any oversight and knowledge into the teams and just blindly pays players to manage themselves most times it's braindead tbh they need a manager role or head coach that can say yo Evan put your big boy pants on or leave the team this is the pros anybody would kill to be in this team with the best IGL and a chance to win, start putting in the work or your gone. That's the biggest difference in pro sports and esports in the pros you know at any second your job could get taken like that cuz there's tons of people lined up ready to go and live the dream you aren't realizing. That tends to make pros "find the passion" pretty damn quick lol 😆. It's just true it is what it is

[@HiroToHero]

@@brandoncoleman4013 I agree. Esports system is still very flawed compared to normal sports since it’s still fairly new compared to real sports. They still haven’t fully figured out the best way to run an org and most of the times the higher ups are absolutely clueless about what’s good for the team so they kind of leave it to the players to decide which is often why players have so much say in a team. Also for formal TSM, as Hal said, not just Evan but Reps has also had the problem of just not playing the game as much as he should for a long time when he was in TSM and I guess it’s hard to keep motivated to grind. Though if it’s your livelihood you should just suck it up and do your job but again the system is not there to really enforce it to the players in some esports so what can you do 🤷‍♂️

[@HiroToHero]

@@wildouter weirdo for being right by saying that PROS should do the stuff they’re paid to do instead of being like “wehhhh I’m not really feeling it I don’t want to do it wehhh” or for writing an essay? If it’s cuz of the essay then I apologize. I’m not very good at shortening stuff I want to say.

[@user-elusive]

I think One of the biggest reasons that the team start losing passion is hal's overheating at his teammates (toxicity) it's kinda frustrating. "Dont get me wrong i like hal"

[@IceMike-]

This is just called winners fatigue, but it’s definitely normal for someone wanting to quit something. Also, playing for Hal was probably not the most fun after awhile.

[@NovusInc]

Yeah but Verhulst should have realised what he had with TSM is something a lot of other players would love to take part in. IF he doesn't have passion I'm sure there are players out there that are willing to put in the passion and time unlike him.

[@zafraan3038]

This is so immature.

[@C0nzilla]

pRoFeSsIoNaL aPeX cOaCh

[@upon-fe2720]

Couldn't put it better myself. Stealing a living.

[@TheGameInvasion]

He’s such a self obsssesed giant baby with a massive ego. He heard Evan use the words “fall off” during a long winded explanation and literally focused on those two words like his family honour was shamed

[@Bengyelly]

I don’t get the sarcasm behind it? He has mad an organization 1mill + in earnings. That alone solidifies that title for him. Like if someone says I’m an underwear sales person. Sounds weird but if you selling millions how can you ridicule it. Unless it’s selling ya body for sex

[@makaveli1337_]

But fr what is the actual role of coach. Like what does he bring to the team apart from some pep talk

[@19ryuusei]

Gotta love how voicing your opinion is disrespectful. Also Raven wasn't the only one vel said fell off. Vel said the team fell off and I mean looking at placements they did fall off

[@19ryuusei]

Also from what I recall, vel didn't give specifics, meanwhile Raven airing it all out...gee I wonder why vel was never honest with him?

[@19ryuusei]

Like he doesn't understand burnout or what? Does he see thr state the game has been in?

[@alfaq937]

u cant 24/7 apex or u go mental :)

[@simonisdanilo3950]

Yep even me in gold lobby im usually plat 3 or 2 These people just be pissing me off

[@senseirbw2395]

Evan will not be receiving the most positive player award this year

[@JollyBeJolly]

My god so much drama its actually insance

[@dznuts2114]

Raven should join dz

[@Haitiandre22]

Hal could’ve said this along time ago I’m not gonna miss the message but this for clout he could’ve said nothing like how some rappers be when asked about opps

[@Haitiandre22]

He tryna max out his get money attributes

[@Haitiandre22]

& raven a clown for acting confused for stream

[@rexington6737]

Zero is so funny

[@jackwaite4035]

Hal literally tweeted to the world he wanted to quit mid split two, using this as a reason to leave is pretty soft.

[@donfavio]

Can we all agree Raven never brought anything to Tsm

[@orbitals5281]

Evan changed when he got the youtube money.

[@lowkeyd2483]

Evan is a nice enough dude, plenty of skill......no actual passion, like none, n that shiz matters.

[@jsdre3026]

Too much apex will surely give you depression.

[@juice7244]

thats a lot of talking just to say "evan was burnt out" ngl

[@TheGameInvasion]

Raven’s such a coward here. He oversimplifies Evan’s words to just say “he said I only got mad and fell off”. What Evan said was a lot more nuanced and detailed than that. He mentions a lot of reasons that led to Raven getting more frustrated than he used too. But Ravens self obsessed EGO heard the word “fell off” and just got triggered 😂

[@MixologistGaming]

Raven is a baby. This isn’t what Evan really said. He didn’t say Raven specifically fell off, he was talking about TSM as a whole. Raven is taking this way too personally.

[@tyrellturner5602]

He specifically said that towards the end of there run Raven was less patient and would lose his temper The conversation was comparing TSM’s new coach to Raven so no most of the conversation was not about the team as a whole Him saying that “ they all fell off” was one sentence that he said towards the end of that segment of the interview

[@ros6919]

Even if raven is overreacting, he still is speaking facts about that Evan lost passion, and Hal is 100% correct that reps doesn’t play the game

[@Fence-Dogs-More]

Having a esports coach is like having a sex coach. You can use some pointers at first but it’s fucking weird if you employ them full time

[@wildouter]

him and his weird college girls he plays with all the time are probably being racist behind the scenes and being even more of a baby then he is letting on

[@drdrio90]

Even is the reason Hal left. So stfu

[@evanloncar]

All raven did is side with hal. Hate this dude.

[@marcosromero3738]

Let's be honest, Hal was becoming very toxic. I get being competitive at the highest level, however Hal did join another organization so he wouldn't have to be igl. He has been called out as a "Hind Sight King" by Zero already too lmao 😂

[@Simple.Wordless]

Small e

[@chico20282]

Ravens saying it was all on the players, only one of them is unemployed right now

[@notben7]

Lmao facts, dude has a massive ego for little reason

[@upon-fe2720]

Raven has signed with someone. Can't remember who

[@drdrio90]

Nice try. This is why Hal left😂

[@HiddenStr3ngth]

Funny how people hear words, then ignore them and make up their own shit and ascribe it to a person.

[@chico20282]

@@upon-fe2720 hes still LFT

[@kylerogers6811]

I knew Verhulst would be the one to fuck it up once he started constantly arguing with Hal

[@roguethemachine3928]

so evan just went into a small depression phase

[@1234epps]

Dang Evan was like my favorite player I’m so disappointed

[@StillDontCare9869]

I personally hope Evan figures out his drive, you can tell some of these streamers want more in life than to just be a “pro apex player” who HAS to sit behind a computer for 9 hours a day. No one should live like that.

[@JonWithAnH]

I'm not gonna say being a pro apex player isn't hard because I know nothing about competing at that level, but it's a privileged position to be in. They don't have to deal with customers 9-12 hours a day while on their computer. Their job is to play a game at a high level and get paid handsomely for it

[@surya_12390]

Yeah, you are right. In that case though, they should just drop out. Why be half-hearted and drag others down with you? Portraying yourself as a victim when you are indecisive is simply unfair to others who are trying their best.

[@surya_12390]

@@JonWithAnH few get paid handsomely, most dont even get enough to be pocket money.

[@JonWithAnH]

@@surya_12390 True but in this case I just mean pros like Evan who are already somewhat rich. But I agree what he said was unfair, seems like an actual break from the game would be good at that point to decide

[@Energyswordsunday]

Raven da goat

[@Keilop]

4:40 took raven 4 min to admit that he got complacent as a coach and sounds like he's just shifting the blame onto Evan

[@Energyswordsunday]

Were you even listening raven didn't have any control over Evan. It was just a bad situation

[@DD-hg5yq]

Ravens over rated straight up

[@0xstoney]

Imagine a coach from any other sports league going on a rant about a player for 5 minutes. You’re the “coach” dude… be the mature one and brush it aside

[@mariankowalski9797]

VERHULST - UNSUB!

[@KevBrad19]

Verhulst is that type of kid that would change stories based on group hes chatting just to *fit in* in that group He's done that multiple times about hal now raven Comparing your new unproven coach as close second to your former coach that made drastic changes to make the team win This is just straight disrespectful And i dont even like raven personally No matter the recent results tsm must remember the changes raven brought to the team to push them forward to success Imperialhal left respectfully thanked the team and coach Raven left respectfully did the same and both took responsibility on their loss, and didnt point 👉 fingers at anybody And now this kid taking zero responsibility calling out your former coach as washed without taking his own responsibility on mistakes he made Its straight staright delusional and most importantly very disrespectful ☝️ Now i understand even more why Imperialhal left quietly to a better committed players

[@arctictropic1147]

Are you going to copypasta this same exact comment on every video or what?

[@resolute7177]

@@arctictropic1147 bro is a professional hater lmaoo

[@rethkim323]

@@arctictropic1147I thought I was going crazy too. Am new to KZbin commenting. I just listen to videos and only started to comment during my breaks at work so it is weird that people do this

[@xanira6367]

bruv verhulst got asked about it. its not like he went on a rant on his own. even then he just gave his opinion in a respectful manner. he wasnt asked about himself and his well being. he was asked about raven, so even if he was part of the reason why things didnt go well, he was still just talking about raven.

[@tyrellturner5602]

“ We all fell off” doesn’t sound like someone who is taking zero accountability Evan acknowledges that everyone on the team played a part in their poor performance. He just went into detail about what SPECIFICALLY Raven did wrong You could argue that Evan should have spoken with Raven before he did the interview and asked if Raven was ok with him speaking publicly about his criticisms But also I think that Raven is a bit to sensitive. Evan has also criticized Hal and Hal took it pretty well joking it off. Ravens response was way more detailed and incriminating than what Evan said. And Raven revealed much more personal details about Evan than Evan did about Raven. Either Raven didn’t watch the entire interview before responding, or Raven doesn’t have thick skin at all. Because telling the world that you had to have multiple interventions with Evan and reveal what you heard Evan say to someone else is a very drastic response when all that Evan really said is that you loose your temper sometimes. As if the pro scene isn’t full of people with thriving careers who scream like banshee’s Evan and Raven both could have handled things better. But Ravens response was definitely worse

[@crazyasian14]

Ahah raven taken out of context from verhuslt

[@charldb972]

They literally said they agreed to take it as it is and never talk about it and non of them did until even opened his mouth, he never had to say what he said so now that cats out the bag you can’t be surprised. Weak move on Evan , guy has had a shit attitude for a while now and now he gets exposed. Knew that good guy persona wasn’t gna last.

[@Bomfunknight]

BAN TAP STRAFING BUFF AIM ASSIST

[@ricepatty5551]

Lmao

[@bal7530]

Preach brother!! MnK is so stupid it's broken.

[@user-wk2yg2zh5k]

@@bal7530 its rage bait he's not serious

[@dustinmcelroy3067]

​@@bal7530lmao way to say you're dogshit at the game.

[@bal7530]

@@user-wk2yg2zh5k did i stutter?