Do you like Heist or are you normal? (I'm joking don't slap me) Cheat sheet here: i.imgur.com/Hu5xzhV.jpg
@justapenoindex3 жыл бұрын
the portal loss problems are def not fixed (im playing sc trade maybe that makes a difference)
@WarsWorth3 жыл бұрын
Fuck heist. All my homies hate heist.
@Excaliber1583 жыл бұрын
I had major issues with heists because it splits the game in two (i feel anyway). As an average/above average gamer (25+ hours weekly), I feel like you choose to persue a single endgame if you want to do heist. That wasn't a HUGE deal with Heist league, as Harvest didn't go core until now and the Atlas was stale. But given how AMAZING the Atlas feels right now, and how profitable it can be (2-3ex an hour in harvest crafts alone, not counting essences/whatever else), I think you'd be nuts to be doing Heist right now. To each their own though. If Heist is what people enjoy, have at it. I know people who still farm Betrayal 24/7 every league /shrug
@beasthaven15713 жыл бұрын
@@Excaliber158 I farm betrayal Q_Q....People buy my benches its a good side income especially once you finished setting up your board and now with the +1 guaranteed. which was the slowest part.
@TheKingpool73 жыл бұрын
I hate Heist. I love Rituals. I skip all Rituals. I run Heists all day. Just because Heist is rewarding and Rituals are not.
@Yomush3 жыл бұрын
One more thing: Increased item quantity and rarity from your gear doesn't do anything for heists. Only heist gear affects the loot in here so getting brooches and trinkets is the most important thing to do if you want to maximize your heist loots. This also means that you don't have to skimp your build for iiq so you can go ahead and use your strongest gear.
@aconite0013 жыл бұрын
I was hoping in your intro that you were going to struggle with a door.
@bkydff58133 жыл бұрын
Extra tips. Revealing an entire wing can cost significantly less then revealing the rooms one by one specially the first extra wing. Discount can be close to 5k-10k. You also get to reveal 8-9 rooms and it only ever uses 6 reveals. Low on blue prints high on rogue markers the first room being fully revealed can be great for increasing total profits.
@Kronkoft3 жыл бұрын
The craziest thing about this video is how he gets more than 14 fps in Rogue’s Harbour.
@cannonpalms42493 жыл бұрын
Welcome to SSFHC
@beejar55703 жыл бұрын
big true
@Woofenator4203 жыл бұрын
You don't need to take the great heist plan to the different stations. Just leave it at one of the stations and it'll be available everywhere
@SunKenRains3 жыл бұрын
At first i actually thought you could only do 1 wing per grand heist maximum but i didn't realised that the alert level was for each independant wing. Learning more everyday, thank you Ziz keep up the good content!
@bountyvb3 жыл бұрын
Great timing, I was about to look for a video like this, I missed the last league so it's all new to me
3 жыл бұрын
The job speed modifier on the brooch is global, so if you do a lot of grand heists, that's definitely worth rolling for as well.
@destroyermaker3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one that loves Heist. I don't really care about the door stuff and it goes faster the more you play anyway. Stupid profitable and easy to target farm what you need in SSF. It feels like fixed Betrayal so I hope we get more designs like this going forward. Thanks for the video. Some useful tips in there.
@sujimayne3 жыл бұрын
*Protip:* On Grand Heists you can exit between Wings through the portal to drop off stuff in your Stash and go back in. And if you get something extremely valuable you can exit before triggering the alarm/lockdown and still go back in, the moment you exit those items are no longer contraband so you won't lose them on death.
@gregorschwezow88833 жыл бұрын
You can use portals between wings? LOL
@OmnomthePie3 жыл бұрын
You can exit a normal heist pre-lockdown to secure loot drops too.
@jc62263 жыл бұрын
Ziz mentioned that and did it too
@muttley85443 жыл бұрын
that sneaky run away at the beggining xD. U are the best professor Ziz
@animatheaeon2 жыл бұрын
So, I just used some of the methodology of this video and made my first serious grand heist... first room I opened with Karst... 3 exalted shards. I've literally only gotten one since playing this game ever. Holy crap. Thanks Ziz for some guidance on this!!!!!!
@tomblachek3 жыл бұрын
Realized today after a couple years that I haven’t subbed to you, how have I overlooked that? Appreciate the helpful content and am great full you’re in the PoE community.
@heymer383 жыл бұрын
Came for the intro, stayed for the rest. Ziz is a bro, and he is the best.
@Zalenmoto3 жыл бұрын
I actually really love heist, I don't run maps super fast so the stop and go nature of Heist works well for me personally.
@ZXbolterZX3 жыл бұрын
I do heists when I ran out of master missions and red maps. It's actually cathartic ans chill. Compared to the constant run and gun of t16 maps.
@seddy11203 жыл бұрын
thank you dude, i know this a bit late. but i started checking out heist and this helps so much
@MrHeyhomes3 жыл бұрын
as an experienced heist player who is good at maths down to the very last chrome orb I can tell you that the comments on here saying contracts are trash are a little out dated and misinformed. The trouble with contracts is people do not put a value on reveals. The reveal at the end of a contract is a point you can spend on a grand heists to reveal icons on the blueprints which is an investment. That investment is not free it cost you time and effort to farm, that reveal point is worth a value. That value is 5c, when you take this into consideration mindless spamming contracts become very good profit. That means every contract you run with Gianna gives you 10c in reveal value (sometimes 15c when she procs if you have rogue gear with extra chance for reveal), the run cost on trade league for doing a contract is from 2 to 4c if you buy from discord tft. So the reveal alone has made you profit if you know how to use it correctly. Not only do you profit from the reveals you gain a net positive rogue market profit from running moderate value contracts. Running blueprints does increase profits however we can no longer fracture to keep reveals on blueprints but we can beast split good blueprints to keep the good icons. So the smartest play is to use split beasts on a very nice Blueprint which has the best icon proft and rogue setup then you reveal only what is value to you as the reveal cost to you is 5c per click + rogue marker cost. If you assign a value to the run cost in this method you will find that a grand heist can cost you up to 200c to produce a blueprint worthy to run but it will produce profit in the range of 25-50c per run. The safer low risk strat this league is to buy cheap blueprints with any rolls from discord or trade and reveal just a couple of rooms and icons which feel they have value and if you consider that the reveal point cost you 5c per icon you want that blueprint to produce you 50c profit after adding up all the reveals you used. Both strats do produce very good profit I made a headhunter on trade league in 3 days farming them this late into league.
@Leshrac19893 жыл бұрын
I had to replay the intro 3 times. Too good
@EvenFlow123453 жыл бұрын
On softcore you can just go out and back in again before taking the last item so you won't lose everything on death. Kinda stupid, but 30 sec to backtrack is worth it if you got something good.
@sujimayne3 жыл бұрын
It's the same for hardcore, Ziz got it wrong, no need for logging out.
@cannonpalms42493 жыл бұрын
@@sujimayne bruh he said you CANT logout.
@pauldudley12733 жыл бұрын
very good guide, thanks for this 1. i might have played more heist if this was out back then haha
@vajda9583 жыл бұрын
You're getting better and better at explaining things :)
@leobalma3 жыл бұрын
thank you @zizaran for all the content.
@jonafinium6842 жыл бұрын
One of the only content creators that gets me to WANT to press the like button in the first 3 seconds of a video.
@lMORG4Nl3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ziz. I've been avoiding heists for a while because they didn't seem worth doing. This is good to know.
@sujimayne3 жыл бұрын
Heists are more profitable than Delve. Delve only becomes more profitable if you go very deep. I run both and you should, too.
@jc62263 жыл бұрын
Pro-tips for new heist players: you will be leveling multiple heist characters at the same time and they have overlap on skills. Try to not level characters with lower level 1 heists if you have higher level heists for them to level on. You will be needing the lower level ones for other characters. I also found it worthwhile to wait to run lower level regular heists until you find the green quest heists to unlock more characters in order to level them as you want, and so the heists are easier/faster.
@8nightwing3 жыл бұрын
I'm really liking all of the new content you've been putting out lately it's been extremely helpful :)
@Raminotaur3 жыл бұрын
Fucking love you Ziz. I have been avoiding Heist for the majority of this entire league and you explaining how it all works has got me interested in trying it again!
@JePetto19103 жыл бұрын
bro that start is just way to goooood
@5ManaAndADream3 жыл бұрын
hiest could be 10x more profitable than everything else, and I still wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. It's the first league I ever quit because of the league itself (the only other league I quit was legion, but thats because my computer died, and was unable to be repaired until I no longer had the time to actively play the league)
@Valaryant.3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't u touch it?
@ONor_r3 жыл бұрын
@@Valaryant. many reasons. Different people have different reasons. Boring. Laggy. Tedious to level the rogues and gear them. But if you're playing ssf, it's actually not that bad. You have a definite way of making good currency for crafting when you're low. Just run a few heists, and you'll have some more scours or alchs. Or chaos even. Ssf really makes you enjoy the small drops and accomplishments.
@Valaryant.3 жыл бұрын
@@ONor_r I see, thank u for the info
@AtlantisArch3 жыл бұрын
@ will grant just give me all your contracts and BP then ROFL
@5ManaAndADream3 жыл бұрын
@@AtlantisArch I literally removed heist content from my lootfilter
@yoelezequieldemedici25453 жыл бұрын
The cheat shit forgot to mention that Trap Disarment on lvl5 is from Venderi... wich has 2 skills to lvl5 :V Also, is good to know that, while you are on the countdown to get the alarm, you still can open the final reward (that will trigget the alarm) or open any other box (that will reduce the countdown timer) so sometimes even when the bar is almost full you can try checking the reward you are going to pick and then go back and grab some smallers chest, then run to pick your heist reward.
@HansPeter-xk3cm3 жыл бұрын
Love your highly professional intros!
@luxusdreyar5527 Жыл бұрын
thank you i almost undrstand how it's work , nice video
@MeesterGgaming3 жыл бұрын
hahaha i hoped for a good intro and i wasnt dissapointed well done!
@kevinkk1113 жыл бұрын
there are some things i did or noticed during heists: On gear i always focused reduced alert level then increased time before lockdown and lastly reduced marker costs (travelling fee, hiring fee) ofc. you try to get chance to duplicate currency on brooches tho.. Another thing: if you get a +1 all skills on nenet she also has counter thaumaturgy at level 5 which makes niles irrelevant (since i consider him the weakest of the 9 besides huck) and lets you open all chests in grand heists more consistently. also getting a masters main skill to level 6 (or even 7) you get an upgrade to their passive which is nice but hard to roll for sometimes.
@Kamikadzex3 жыл бұрын
That intro is alone worth a like
@albezus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the content ziz. I know you've made the game easier and more enjoyable for new players!
@Codiobosea3 жыл бұрын
you can go vendor aswell if you go out before taking the last reward. Then all the small things you found before is safed aswell
@TheyCalledMeT2 жыл бұрын
the one thing missing, .. always at least make those gear items for your buddies magic .. if not rare .. the buffs make your heists cheaper, more rewarding, finish faster, the fights easyer etc .. using a regular item for yor buddies in crime is ... kinda pointless (not to speak of leaving slots open)
@vioectrolysis3 жыл бұрын
Excellent timing, and intro
@dedidedi57313 жыл бұрын
Great guide ! Thanks !
@KingJerbear3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy Heists, they are just relaxing to play and you can kinda slow down and just get a bunch of loot. The Grand Heists are a bit annoying but you can also get some really cool stuff.
@kunaljoshi87303 жыл бұрын
This is the funniest intro ever! Love it!
@joshuastephens39263 жыл бұрын
I literally had no idea how to even start this mechanic until just now watching your video which is the day of ultimatum lmao. All I had to do was right click lmao I was seriously just looking for a person to give those things too.
@Suicidalpony553 жыл бұрын
was lost in heist, wont be anymore with this guide thank you!
@holy-del3 жыл бұрын
Intro - awesome!
@gasiorewsky28063 жыл бұрын
Yo ziz its important to know That if u are doing GH or contracts u can save That juicy loot without risk of dying. U go in droped ex And u dont want to lose it u can go outside to main doors And contraband is vanishing And then u can go for something else without risk of losing your droped ex
@lerin10493 жыл бұрын
God dammit Ziz xD! Your creativity knows no bounds, knows no bounds :D 11/10 intro!
@Xehlyv153 жыл бұрын
I skipped heist because of bugs so I'm lost.. thanks for the guide! I've just been yeeting contracts and gear for the members
@NafenX3 жыл бұрын
I haven't done a single heist yet this league... Didn't even finish the quest to use a Rogue marker 😹
@markusgeorgi97973 жыл бұрын
awesome video man!
@papasmug47363 жыл бұрын
idk about you guys but i live for those intros
@craigclement55203 жыл бұрын
Your intros are so much fun! Lovin your content.tysvm
@codyheiner36363 жыл бұрын
Heist may be profitable but it's worse than walking through a frozen wasteland naked, so I deleted everything heist related from my drop filter and am pretending it never went core.
@Valaryant.3 жыл бұрын
Could u elaborate please?
@scubaman20033 жыл бұрын
@@Valaryant. When you could causally make 10 exalt/hour doing grand heists it was boring and dull and I stopped doing it. Now that I would have to manually reveal the bps and get less loot etc. Not even going to run a single grand heist. Sadly the alt gems are behind this huge time sink.
@Valaryant.3 жыл бұрын
@@scubaman2003 oh damn..
@aleksei88843 жыл бұрын
just so much depth to this game.. lmao, I only played a couple of hours cuz I dont have that much time to play atm, but ill definitely give it a solid go when I'm more free, been liking the content, at least the parts I partially understand lol
@lhatten5123 жыл бұрын
My little secrete is out. This is the 3rd heist video ive seen this week and the prices of even low level contracts have went up to 15c plus in the last day.
@Grunik16183 жыл бұрын
Intro was 10/10.
@hgjf33 жыл бұрын
nice parody of heisting, at begin of clip! COOL!
@wellwellwell50693 жыл бұрын
I keep clicking on the vid not even for the content at first but just for the intro !
@tactful733 жыл бұрын
Still super helpful, thanks ziz
@thakursumeet87653 жыл бұрын
dude the video intros are quite funny! keep that up
@paxt173 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up* for that pro scurry after obtaining the heist target.
@sujimayne3 жыл бұрын
Heist is more profitable but Delve is more fun. Delve only becomes more profitable if you Delve at 500+ and do rotas on 840.
@david-csmhaltero773 жыл бұрын
The issue is being able to delve +500 unless you have a specific char. I love both heist and delve a bit here and there when I'm tired of farming Sirus
@gordonhowell97013 жыл бұрын
Heist is cool, but I hate it, at least on console. Used almost all my markers and reveals to build up a super juicy 4 wing grand heist. Was in the first wing when my new Xbox series X crashed (do NOT buy one if these yet, crashes daily). Returned to POE and found I had lost the entire blueprint.... and all this was AFTER I had encountered an “invisible” monster in one of the rooms (which from your video I think may have been a trap) which shot out blobs of green gunk which in the small room was unavoidable and instant kill. Couldnt find the monster to kill it, ended up dying 4 times. THEN the crash occurred. Once I get over this and thanks to your vid, will give it another shot in a few days :-) thanks!
@fisherkeltath3 жыл бұрын
I took contracts and coins off my SSF filter a couple of days into 3.13 and haven't looked back. Running Heists and managing rogues feels terrible. Still watching the video for some reason.
@ThanosOfLight3 жыл бұрын
It just doesn't feel right running contracts knowing you could be enjoying the incresible new atlas instead
@MRCastrogiovanni3 жыл бұрын
I removed Heist's things from my loot filter and my life is better now
@sephiros98833 жыл бұрын
Ziz dumbing down Heist is like a post-doc professor making a class for PhD candidates.
@jaceb59903 жыл бұрын
Bro. Your intros have gotten so good.
@ufcraig213 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link on POB for the character you are running in this video? Appreciate all you do for the community.
@jesgudiksen9163 жыл бұрын
Hi. Do you have a link or guide to the build you are playing in this Video ?
@EwokPanda3 жыл бұрын
"It's not worth it to repeatedly run the first quest contract by not completing it." It's not anymore, but on league launch, I literally got *every* req. level 45 and under jewelery in the game doing it :P (including 6 Band of the Brotherhoods and a Loreweave)
@cannonpalms42493 жыл бұрын
Are you saying “it’s not anymore” because this has been nerfed? Or because of the point we are at in this league’s progression?
@EwokPanda3 жыл бұрын
@@cannonpalms4249 It was "fixed" in a patch after launch: "The 'Contract: Trial Run' Heist quest contract now contains less valuable rewards."
@pr0fet3 жыл бұрын
Ziz setting new fashion trends in 2021
@soulstealer56253 жыл бұрын
Honestly thanks to hucks change to give more experience, heist is my fav way of levelling up, safer than mapping atm.
@SyntheticaYT3 жыл бұрын
After I’ve started doing heist, I am of the opinion that it’s just a better version of delve. It’s something that you can just do forever if you want to and it generates insane profit. But unlike delve there’s also a lot of great voice acting and banter and you know ahead of time what potential rewards there are and you can pick and choose versus in delve you just hope you hit the right rooms
@gwenotp90863 жыл бұрын
These intro are getting better and better LUL
@chriss.78383 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ziz for the explanation of Heist. I just play standard league because I don't have the time to level a new char very 3 months.
@kevinleugan60373 жыл бұрын
Not sure if just my builds or what, but lvl 70 or so heists seem more rippy than lvl 70 any other content in the game. And it's not consistently rippy either. I've been able to facetank on some heists with difficult modifiers, and yet get pretty much one shot in other heists with not that difficult modifiers and this is with very little gaps if any in defense (capped all res, fortify, high enough armor for 80% mitigation without flasks, and some block/dodge). The random death rate in a lvl 70 heist for me is about as high as in a rare influenced red maps, which just seems off to me.
@ZXbolterZX3 жыл бұрын
The enemies seem to crit more often and are heavy on phys damage.
@loganmazurek76735 ай бұрын
Watching to learn something about Heist 2:09 : “WTF you can scroll the map overlay?!” 🤯
@Darrindo3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy easy currency from heist, but I really wish they made the rogue harbor a private instance again. My GPU fans get so loud when I'm there just trying to turn stuff in lol.
@bynnrowell95953 жыл бұрын
your intros are getting better and bettter
@wamek3 жыл бұрын
nice video ziz! is it worth alch'ing the contracts or just run them white to prevent dying so much? i scourge them all since i heard it doesnt matter to the chests rewards and this way i run them way safer and faster. looking forward to ur answer. thanks!
@nazevais3 жыл бұрын
that intro xD thumps up!!!!
@reapinquisitorenjoyer3 жыл бұрын
i literally laughed to tears after this intro
@Vill2Play3 жыл бұрын
yeah LOL
@Maubedo283 жыл бұрын
Best intro everrrrrrrrrrrrrr...................... awesome guide friend, :D
@MJnyxstar3 жыл бұрын
This video was so helpful.
@AADNinja3 жыл бұрын
Favorite intro so far
@schulz94853 жыл бұрын
That's the best intro :D:D I cant stop laughing
@neversoftt3 жыл бұрын
9:58 are you sure about this? As far as i've noticed the level of the missions did nothing for xp, but the ilvl of the contract does. I could be wrong, but i remember investing some time to figure this out back then.
@ruby83913 жыл бұрын
what build are you running in this video?
@rosendanailov25762 жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned that grand heist reveal costs 2K markers :D I was thrilled to play my first, but all my money went to hell
@webs6793 жыл бұрын
Yes ziz. Waiting for this one.
@tomkriek3 жыл бұрын
These intros are gold.
@Atlas-eg5gu3 жыл бұрын
subbed 90% for the intros
@hyphaene3 жыл бұрын
lovely intro !!
@MrPipeiven3 жыл бұрын
Great vid ziz !!!! Thank you !!
@wideawakeanimal13 жыл бұрын
I haven’t entered rogue harbor once this league 😂
@squarixgaming98403 жыл бұрын
thank you for the tips i will use it thanks so much