EVERYTHING We Know About POE2 & Why I'm Excited

[@Zizaran]

Expect many PoE2 videos to be coming out in the period leading up to the Closed Beta launch on December 6. Stay tuned and thank you!

[@Repenter0]

Can you have a video covering dot builds, ailments, etc? I haven't seen much talk about dot builds in general, can things that don't "hit" inflict dots/ailments now, how are dots stacking, is something like cold dot occultist (or similar) even viable? Near as I can tell nobody is covering this particular niche/topic at all and I have no idea who to actually ask about it.

[@SmexerP]

"slightly slower" its literally a reduction of like 90% at least in regard to speed. its like comparing the speed of a snail to that of a crackhead on a 7 day binge running from the cops with a stolen fridge on his shoulders.

[@burndabear595]

@@Repenter0well, i don’t think anyone exept the people working on the game, can answer all that before December 6th

[@2fat4airborne44]

without watching.... My reason why: Because of Jonathan and Marc and after that GGGs reputation. Those 2 have won me over time and time again to keep on beeing hype for POE2. The expertise, the reasoning and the discipline to keep that goal in sight is so rare if not unheard off in the gaming industry. i was really nervous with the involvement of Tencent and all the love the shop has gotten to put it mildly. So i always saw the winter coming. But maybe it wont come, at least not in the near future. POE1 kinda stuck with lots of their mechanics in a corner they cant really escape and its not because of the lack of trying. POE2 could be the Ying to the Yang. And..... GGG is loyal enough to their players that it is reasonable to give em good chunk of slack and trust. Something i never said about any DEV Team ever (or company for that matter). For refererence: i am a 42 years old german stubborn son of a bitch with the attitude loyalty and trust needs to be earned and it is not given all my life with one exception - My daughter.

[@jbaris]

@@SmexerP slowing the game down this much is a big mistake. The speed of poe is what makes it so fun. I really didn't ask for more engaging gameplay - takes too much focus and will burn out way too fast

[@feveredmushroomHD]

I know my wife will miss me 🎉

[@truuuupR]

Mine broke the news 3 weeks ago that she's divorcing me 😂

[@feveredmushroomHD]

@@truuuupR she needs time to play poe 2

[@sechu2]

Play with her on coach coop!!!

[@josheddie]

Best she just moves on.

[@christerjakobsen8107]

@@truuuupR Its heartening news to hear your wife is also playing poe2!

[@ApocDevTeam]

Also important to remember that PoE1 today is nothing like it was back during open beta. You can expect PoE2 to undergo a similar transformation over the years. Even if it feels rough at the start they are going to make major changes based on player feedback. With hundreds of thousands of people playing it is all but guaranteed.

[@nzgrover]

Exactly, if something sucks, it'll get fixed. GGG have never been afraid to make sweeping changes.

[@Nirvaxstiel]

I am waiting eagerly till that happens. Never liked POE until it got "good" around Legion when I started hearing very many cool opinions on it and decided to give it a go in metamorph. Until then, I'll just sit out and play other games. PoE1 hopefully wont continue to get cannibalised by PoE2 needs.

[@esoteric404]

Same thing was said about PSO2 NGS when comparing it to PSO2. Four years later and it’s still shit.

[@ptoast6533]

@@Nirvaxstiel maybe PoE and PoE2 just isn't for you

[@Nirvaxstiel]

@@ptoast6533 Yea maybe, after ten thousand hours sunk in since Metamorph. Took me long enough

[@trullo222]

12:41 Pretty sure that the crafting bench is back on the menu for PoE 2

[@PankyNips]

i hope so

[@loganluther]

It's basically an enchant bench now. Don't ask how I know.

[@PankyNips]

@ I won’t ask you but what I’m curious about is : tell me more

[@commanderdog]

My biggest issue with WASD was attempting to use 1-5 on the keyboard while using it. Made it really difficult for me as a boomer gamer. Other than that, the controls in the game felt great. Mercenary seems really fun. Excited to check out Early Access.

[@BasedChadman]

MMO mouse, problem solved

[@tfwzrd]

im sure they'll allow keybinds - so close options (like Q, E, R, F, Z, C) might feel better to use :)

[@nextgen3ric]

Isn't Q-E-R-T-F the basic bind combo for WASD, or was every showcase custom bound? And them having reduced flasks from 5 to 2 should fix the biggest pain point of WASD button bloat.

[@keldon1137]

@@BasedChadman mmo mouse are terrible even for mmo, people actually are bad at moving cursor and pressing buttons with thumb at the same time. woould be better to bind things to closer binds like 1-3, q,e,r,f etc

[@Meitti]

Are those blood-shot eyes the result of the Elden Ring stream, or did Ziz just smoke a really hefty blunt before the video?

[@Zizaran]

Ye did 13h elden ring and popped some blood vessels, i dont smoke

[@skryah]

@@Zizaran 13hr of Elden Ring counts as smoking

[@arashidziurda2236]

@@Zizaran consuming too much sugar also give red eyes

[@LaigledeMeaux]

"Slightly Slower Gameplay." God, I hope this is true even at the highest levels of play. This is my biggest criticism with POE 1. It's all about how fast you can kill something to the point that if you aren't one shotting basically the entire screen every second then you aren't putting out enough damage. I'm exaggerting here, but it really feels like this is how it works. With this type of gameplay it feels like the build is far more important than the way you play to the point where if you don't follow a specific build guide than you are going to have a bad time. W With things like animation canceling and rolling in POE 2, I hope that means skill is a bit more important and that makes builds a bit more freeing.

[@jonathanbuyno9461]

Poe1 was as slow as this on release. I’m sure poe2 will be the same, zoom zoom

[@mynameisleonardoactually]

My ideal endgame would look like your average map progressing through the atlas on a 4l/5l, it's not like people are blasting everything in 10s but it's not a slog either for most builds. Last epoch's endgame's pace is quite comfy too, neither too fast nor too slow And I think ggg will go down this path and I hope I'm right

[@mtxumi]

facts bro one shotting everything in grey fog while my 1 billion projectiles shoot out and return in every direction with my brain turned off isnt really something i find engaging or fun after many years

[@BasedChadman]

​@@jonathanbuyno9461Jonathan specifically said he doesn't want it to be as zoomy

[@RandomTreats]

@@jonathanbuyno9461 i dont think itll get to the level of poe1 tho. theyve said they wanted it to make it more situational based and one button builds can exist but they wont be as good

[@romeprince11]

@1:01 BAH button

[@aspidinton]

thank you good sir

[@Mister_Vintage]

I am beyond hyped for POE2. I was late to POE1 and never fully got a handle on crafting due to being overwhelmed by the addition of many systems over the decade not allowing me to fully grasp the deeper concepts of the varying crafting systems, just utterly overwhelmed with the sheer volume of information...that being said, I still loved POE1. I am hoping beyond hope that getting in on the ground floor of POE2 will allow me to develop that entry-level information into a good foundation that I can build upon over the next decade :) Let's goooooo boys!!!!

[@immanuelaj]

I think there are only maybe a few hundred people in the world that have gone to the very depths of the crafting system in PoE. 😅 Maybe even fewer. 🤔

[@c-tothefourth4879]

@@immanuelaj Nah, it's not that hard.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

Most of those systems are in POE 2 so GL

[@jonathanbuyno9461]

It’s the same game bro

[@DarkTooniverse]

I love how people are like "bosses with a brain? what is this dark souls?" DODGING? This is basically Dark Souls. Restarting a boss fight when you die? Basically Dark Souls invented that. Omg these enemies have more than 2 attacks? Dark Souls. Because as we all know, no games had dodging, blocking, or made you restart when you died until Dark Souls. When everything is Dark Souls, nothing is.

[@squidgyxombie]

Love how we've gone full circle, back to a 0.8 style passive tree where everyone starts in the middle.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

The bench has been added back in for months.

[@KingTCasper]

Where did you hear this

[@o.colpus]

@@KingTCasper Not entirely sure in which interview this has been mentioned, but I also remember Jonathan saying that the crafting bench will be there.

[@TaoKatsu]

I'll test and play without big expectations. Just hope i wont have to roll a massive meteor from a absorber of worlds boss to boost my skills dmg every 3seconds because its really gonna get boring lol.

[@00holokast00]

I am really worried about stuff like this, if I want that I will go play D4(which is ok to play for a short while). What I like the most about PoE1 is that it is a struggle at the start but with enough investment you can make your build 1 button and a movement skill.

[@mutantemolina3708]

As a young teen my mind was blown away by my first session of Diablo 2 in which i reached lvl 11 as a Barbarian. After 10+ years of PoE the vibes i'm getting from the sequel are nothing short of epic.

[@ptoast6533]

Nice :)

[@benq1338]

As a young teen, my mamba was blown off by my first session of jorkin in which i reached full goonbrain as a Young Virile Male. After 16+ years of continuous gooning the vibes i'm getting from this video are nothing short of erecting

[@ptoast6533]

@@benq1338 :^(

[@_ByteBlaze_]

2:25 Something they mentioned in a previous interview regarding the "getting stuck" was, for one, the monsters in the the earlier demos weren't correctly tuned for their stun calculations and were causing excess stuns, and two, that following the feedback during that demo, they have made the dodge roll also shrink your collision size so that you can slip between the monsters more easily (but still not phasing/intersecting) 2:45 I assume in this section, it is tailored more towards new players rather than existing players, but I don't think labeling skills as "for the Druid" and "for the Mercenary" when PoE (including PoE 2) allows you to use any skill on any class, even if that class doesn't offer more immediate accessibility to that archetype 12:35 Chaos orbs are still in the game, they've just changed the functionality to remove/add instead of reforge. I know this gets addressed at 13:00, but I believe it's important to give accurate info when it is described, and have it edited if the info isn't accurate at that point I assume content crunch played a role in the above points being a bit more "rough", but I just wanted to make note of them, as it's pretty important in a deep dive video to provide as much accurate info as possible, and I think providing inaccurate bits can set expectations for things that aren't there. Great video otherwise, I appreciate having a video that is able to explore the changes without being an hour long.

[@archangel6295]

One of the first leagues i am expecting in poe 2 is Tota, Hinekora's dialogue in the league made it seem like the player was their far to early then when they are suppose to arrive to the afterlife, leading me dto believe it will either be a campaign area or a league in poe 2

[@Idontknowhowtoread]

As someone who loves Hades 1&2, Battlerite, V Rising n the upcoming supervive the WASD movement is zero worry to me and will make combat more interactive.

[@Dabonman87]

Been playing Diablo 4 and thought about trying PoE. After finding out that they are making a PoE 2, I decided to wait. It's good to hear that this game will be fun. I'm really excited about playing something with a guest account for friends an SO. Thanks.

[@superblahblah666]

I'm concerned about WASD movement i hope it feels like an arpg and not a twin stick shooter. There is a fine line between those and its been make or break for me for years.

[@vantilsley8633]

Interesting point

[@stoicsteveYT]

I hope it feels like Hedes' WASD. The worst feature of these top down WASD options is when the character always faces mouse pointer. I'll give it go with a second character but definitely starting with click to move

[@soundtorial4567]

You can still play with your mouse like in poe1

[@DarkTooniverse]

uhh isn't every ARPG on a controller essentially a twin stick shooter?

[@wolvie90]

Basically soulsifying PoE is a dream come true for me if they can do it right. I'm sure eventually it will powercreep it's way into a spot that resembles what PoE1 is now but if it starts as slow and methodical as they make it seem, I'll be happy.

[@modumsnus]

The change with adding gold as a currency, and dropping from mobs. I do hope that is something that get vaccumes into your inventory as you finish a map or area? Or that you have a bigger vaccume area around you to suck up gold, cuz having to move over gold on the floor on higher level content where you want to go fast seems a bit clunky and unnecessary. Hoping that PoE 2 will be a new constant game on my list with PoE and Dota.

[@BrandingChangeYep]

The only reason im super worried about POE 2 is I don't trust them to keep actually working on POE 1 long term. If POE 2 flops I think Tencent & Investors are going to get extremely upset about the amount of money spent on POE 2. I think this basically has to work & be the future or it's going to be downhill for the game.

[@adalos1953]

I think PoE will fall off hard once PoE2 is released. There's such a big overlap between the two audiences, and I know they're planning on staggering leagues and whatnot, but I think the emphasis will be on trying to make PoE2 successful, at the expense of PoE1 content/quality.

[@MrMmva]

It will depend a lot on how the playerbase will be divided over the games. If poe & poe2 will have equal amounts of players and money generated, there is no reason to kill one of the games. If everyone starts playing one of the games, they will probably kill the other game in a few years.

[@Zevrael]

I'm convinced both games will be successful and coexist peacefully.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

@@MrMmva The amounts do not need to be equal.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

@@adalos1953 Why, makes no sense to forgo massive potential profits. They've literally said in the past that 10k is a sizeable enough number of players to be successful. Players preferred when POE 1 had 3 month leagues, and most are done with it after a month. A 2 month gap between POE 1 and 2 leagues is the perfect balance, most POE 1 players will play both.

[@Balorian]

I love everything about PoE 2 that I've seen and can't wait to play it. I am worried however about how much "console" stuff I keep hearing about. Nothing ruins a game like being built around consoles/controllers. Lets hope GGG makes a new gem of a game.

[@abysskun9518]

I can't wait to see how the two handed sword skills will look, I hope we get skills similar to the moveset of the boss Iron Count.

[@nach4642]

I never noticed till now, but it looks like Deli is confirmed with the cluster jewel slots in the corner.

[@Zevrael]

There could be another way to acquire cluster jewels, the slots could be removed, and they could be for something else. The sockets existing isn't a confirmation of anything, really.

[@Deminese2]

Jonathon has outright said no cluster jewels right now. I hope they NEVER come back. Clusters fucking suck.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

Gear doesn’t have sockets at all. Mentioning that old system was just weird and confusing to newer players. Also your info is outdated; the skills aren’t separated by class. They are separated by weapon type. Should have also talked about the attribute requirements for using X number of support gems.

[@yan6560]

Gear does have sockets for blood crystals or however they are called. Skills are visually separated by classes, but technically by weapons, you are right. He said the attribute thing for support gems. I didn't know that actually. Sounds like mana problems are not gonna be as bad as in PoE1 if you don't use some mana-targeted solutions.

[@Deminese2]

PC gamer journalist mentioned during the campaign a vaal device adds sockets to gear for blood crystals. So we do have sockets still most likely a d2 gem system.

[@Zizaran]

Thanks for the correction and sorry for the outdated bits, it's somehow really difficult to find up to date sources for current info when the game is changing this fast and the showcases are so few. The skill separation tabs aren't super clear to me in the TGS showcase as I can't read kanji, so I assumed the 12 tabs stood for classes, or meant a combination of both. 😅 -Skryah (editor and writer for this video)

[@SarkeStorm]

@@Zizaran Theres a button where u can switch that and just show all the skills ordered by level and not by classes. Im actually planning to use several skills from other classes for my build. It wouldnt b POE if u had to strictly attach to several skills depending of wich class u are. That would be a total down for me and many others. POB players like to spend more time on POB and POEDB than in the game itself...

[@c-tothefourth4879]

@@yan6560 At what point did he talk about the new attribute support gem system, thanks. And no, gems are visually separated by weapons, not classes. The interface is literally in the video. It used to be differentiated by class in the menu, now it's weapons.

[@Koldybay]

"Warrior specialzing in heavy me.. weapons". Omg, you tried to hide it, but truth comes out and I couldn't be more hyped: Battle guitars - CONFIRMED! Phat riffs - CONFIRMED! Moshpit windmill battlemoves - CONFIRMED! Sweeping enemy with long battle hair - CONFIMED! Heavy metal frenzy builds - CONFIRMED!

[@satibel]

lost ark's bard:

[@r3dz1k_]

A few days ago, I realized that my hype for Path of Exile 2 was gone. I thought to myself: Well, it's nice that PoE2 is coming out soon, it will probably be good, but without exaggeration. PoE 2 will come out, I'll play for a while and that's it, no big deal. However, when I saw the announcement of the stream about early access, the hype suddenly returned. Now I am happy again, like a child who can't wait for a gift under the Christmas tree. I'll probably get insomnia from excitement after the stream.

[@MrDrusso]

Probably it will still be miles away from how fluid is Lost Ark skills-based combat

[@RazmaX]

Does anyone else feel like everyone is just waiting for POE like all streamers are just burning time till Dec 6

[@lookimhere2005]

Casting Couch Co-Op? Yoooo

[@choppa_gaming9381]

hopefully they add a mercenary type system where you can play with a merc that you deck out in items and skills if you dont have anyone to play with at the time or for solo grinders but make it not available if you are playing with other players. Unless there is 4 players in a party then allow 2 people to bring there mercs for a 4 party group

[@seanmartens8740]

I thought I would dislike the slower game play but that is changing. I've been playing my first HC character in POE1 (for the achievements) and for obvious reasons its a lot slower and I've actually enjoyed that. I'm also playing Pseudo SFF because trade this late in a league is practically non existent. Looking forward to Thursdays reveal stream!

[@macciebe]

I am going to try and take the opportunity to truly learn the game from scratch. PoE1 is great but was too overwhelming to get into as a recent new player

[@tinecchi3648]

All I care about is a interesting end game. Poe1 did such a great job with the scarab changes this year for example.

[@Scyths1]

Masteries not being there anymore is kind of bad. Not because masteries were excellent, but because it added a tiny bit of depths to the skill tree. Removing them feels unnecessary as it's not like they were monumental to making your character go from good to absurd.

[@brianh5844]

As an older player I really enjoyed playing with masteries. I thought they added a lot of depth and customization to the skill tree that wasn't there before. I love being able to spec into certain masteries if there's something the game is throwing at me that I can't handle. Yes, there are some generically powerful ones and maybe we don't need those, but a lot of them are niche but still quite useful in the right circumstances (like the reflect ones or "monsters can't block your attacks" for expedition content). They sort of feel like mini-ascendancies to me and they give you something to go for besides notables. Will have to wait and see how the new skill tree plays out but I hope they consider adding them in.

[@Zevrael]

Maybe GGG feel like masteries are worse or unnecessary on this new skill tree.

[@LumpsIsHigh]

Masteries just a shiny thing they can implement later.

[@tsunamie1015]

Tbf, for the most parts masteries could easily be just placed on the passive tree as notables. Adding them as masteries in PoE 1 just prevented the problem of GGG having to put a ton of effort ino figuring out where to place them.

[@brianh5844]

@@tsunamie1015 I don't know, it felt like there was something uniquely satisfying about getting to a point and getting to choose between a number of options (for a similar reason that jewel sockets feel nice to get). It might have started out how you're saying but I think it just works well mechanically.

[@Whitewingdevil]

The delay is honestly only making me more hype for the beta, luckily I wasn't one of the people who took time off work for it, so the delay didn't mess up my plans at all. I had the chance to get into PoE back when it very first launched, a friend of mine introduced me to it, but I underestemated its potential back then and didn't come back until Essence league, this time I can follow the game right from the start! And by that I don't mean blasting the game and beating everything, I'm kinda trash at these games so that's probably not gonna happen, but I'll get to see how the game shifts and evolves over time, I'm honestly super excited for that aspect of it, GGG's track record suggests that the game we see at launch may not resemble the game we're playing 2-3 years later, and that evolution is gonna be fun to experience!

[@JustaSmilingHedgehog]

The linking and coloring system being gone is the best change, it was interesting when PoE1 came out, but is just a pointless hassle now.

[@Mr_RedEl]

Melee needs a huge damage buff or insane cast speed for big damage skills because if not ranged is going to be the meta for at least early access from what I saw playing warrior feels like driving a cat 6 tractor.

[@ElderGamerX]

I'm hyped for PoE 2 BECAUSE it feels like it'll be a very different game. If it was just PoE 1.5, I don't think I'd want to play both of them.

[@FunBanan117]

I personally wait for poe2 but the only thing I really wish in it is some kind of sandbox where you can make any kind of build and just try it. Because when you are not that kind of player who spends 25hours a day in this game it feels very odd when you feel you don't like the build you made (even by guides) after spending 30 hours.

[@Anadune0903]

cant w8 to see empy summoning literally infinite totems as an endleague project :P

[@Tehed82]

the WASD-controls are my greatest fear.... it might turn out to be not for me, but I'm really looking forward to trying it.

[@landonperry9371]

Man I've been so excited to try huntress since the first video showing her off, huge bummer she isn't in the beta, at least at launch.

[@tejasshastha5457]

My only question: will I be able to play the game without having to follow an online guide right from the beginning? ARPGs for me means exploring skill and gear options for myself. Having to follow a guide completely ruins it for me and is the biggest reason why I couldn’t get into PoE 1.

[@boubou6350]

You can do that in Poe 1 as well. You just need to accept you wont be beating end game bosses before learning how to build a character. There is nothing keeping you from doing that except yourself.

[@kgar06]

IMO, POE2 minute to minute gameplay seems like it will be a lot closer to D4 or LE rather than the 1-2 screen speed blasting of POE1. Slower paced combat, tactical as Ziz said, more buttons to be pressed instead of just one, combinations, etc. Just seems like it'll be more engaging combat and more decision making needed similar to D4/LE in the moment of combat vs the brainless POE1 combat.

[@sloesty]

It looks like a better game tbh, but poe2 is such a comfort game for most players now that i will be a shock.

[@DD-jr4vt]

Not gonna lie, this sounds crazy good and I am hyped beyond reasonable levels lmao.

[@Dooby0071]

It's a new game and I love the direction they are taking it

[@GW2KillerBEE]

Just remember guys POE 1 also was REALLY SLOW at the start... and look how fast that become...

[@avlaenamnell6994]

honestly it got way too fast personally.

[@GASerra]

I'm looking forward to playing this on controller. I love the implementation on D4 and LE

[@YrCleddyf]

New Jeweller orb varients lets you add a socket to the gem which is nice

[@IllNacs]

me and my friend will atleast get to endgame during early access, but if the game is a slow "you have to dodge every attack or get 1shot" or "you HAVE to use multiple skills to do any decent damage" then i personally will go back to poe1 with my immortal RF Chief or my blaster LA Deadeye

[@Complication84]

I'm very very excited for PoE2. I love PoE, but I'm not a blaster and I really don't enjoy the crafting system. I like the massive tree and wide ranging gems, but getting an upgrade is always a hassle trying to socket/link it while playing SSF. So PoE2 doing away with that is going to be a dream for me.

[@sergeymanetskiy8201]

I remind myself Cartman from South park when he was waiting for Nintendo release...

[@smokeyfantastico]

POE2 looks like what I wished D4 was. I don't dislike POE1 but I just couldnt stick with it.

[@krieg938]

No they shouldnt remove creature collision, slower more tactical combat is really good, cast time animations instead of instant cast is great, all of these things increase the skill ceiling and it does all look a lot more interactive and improved. Personally moving away from 100s of no effort mobs to a more in depth, slower combat style is exactly what I was hoping for. I want more challenge, not 5x speed no brain boring grind.

[@MoistYoghurt]

I am so happy to hear that crafting will be more approachable for newer players because it made no sense to me in poe 1

[@spliffzombonie]

I like this better. POE1 and D4 is just mainly zooming through maps and destroying everything without thinking.

[@gus3143]

every stream and their mother this past weekend: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

[@joshualegroulx9629]

I'm very concerned about the poe2 unfortunately. I don't feel like "comboing" several skills to kill one mob. My hands already hurt I'm not a fan of needing to press 3 or 4 buttons for each pack of monsters.

[@adalos1953]

The problem with lengthy combos is they end up being wasted effort in games where everything is constantly moving. Like with the druid volcano or monk bell, which are cool ideas that only work if the enemies stay in range of its damage when you place it down. If you're continuing to move like in PoE 1 because standing still = death, it becomes problematic because the monsters follow you and then your volcanoes are essentially doing nothing. Nothing feels worse than whiffing hard with combos.

[@andrewnash5932]

Move = death comes as a consequence of the fact that any good build kills the entire screen in one second. You have to instantly kill the player or they will just instantly clear all content with no risk. They are trying to start from the ground up to avoid issues like that and the first step is actually making it take more effort to beat everything. Their intention is to avoid the kind of mistakes they made with PoE 1 powercreep, hopefully they can pull it off.

[@tsunamie1015]

That's kinda why they are slowing the overall speed of combat down, work on more active defenses and allow for cc to play a much bigger role in combat. If you were to look at it through the lense of PoE 1 you would be correct, enemies simply move too fast while you have to keep moving or you die. But that's one huge aspect of the game they've been working on solving/improving with PoE 2 for years now. It was even part of the idea back when PoE 2 was just supposed to be a new campaign and overhaul for PoE.

[@soulstealer5625]

@@andrewnash5932 Exactly, you die or u melt em. I like the feeling of trading blows rather than treating it like RS6 siege. My only experience of that game was 40 mins of multiplayer where I got exploded in under a second. Bit off topic but thats how poe 1 gameplay can fell.

[@NForceTV1]

do you think everyone will be able to access poe 2 on dec 6 or it will be by invite wave?

[@swiftbow2110]

Nervous. I hope i like it.

[@ghost2031]

Same

[@maciejb1527]

To me the game looks outstanding as a concept but I am afraid that there will be too much hardcore complexity. GGG tries their best but most POE1 players are people who wants to click one button and clear several screens, not chain several different abilities and skill combos.

[@andresmartinez.494]

Bro its free, stfu if you dont spend money

[@erastal]

it can’t be worse than diablo 4

[@busa7]

@@erastal Thats Last Epoch.

[@spicywe1ner]

Love your analysis and take on the content already. Thank you, answered a lot my questions already

[@Tensa_Jedi]

I thought Johnathan mentioned that they reverted the no crafting bench change. So there might still be one but different 🤷‍♂️

[@supbrozos]

Ruthless 2 much excited such waow

[@tatianastrbikova1031]

We know shit for now. Just glimpse of the game have been shared with us. What I noticed and really don't like are too narrow corridors and fight with clumps of enemies that create deadly combo for melee chars.

[@TheJoe0017]

the thing I worry about the most with Poe 2 is it effecting Poe 1

[@semma19]

bosses reset in death is not dark souls, its poe1 ruthless, which most ppl wont like tbh

[@turiel86]

PoE 2 in early access won't ship with all 12 classes

[@Moogle]

nor all the acts

[@Borando96]

As someone who only dabbled in PoE 1 (180h) I really liked the many skills and stuff, but got disappointed, when most builds (if not all) just have 1 super skill and a blink or so. I also didn't like, that mobs are visually very different, but it felt like all could have been just a box you clear without even a second thought, just rushing around, not even really seeing what's on the screen and deleting everything in a blink of an eye. There were also some minor stuff, that was (at least as a new player) annoying: Gambling for the gem slots and colour. Not having a standardized currency was also weird, but I liked how they implemented it in settlers of kalguur, including the in-game auction house. And PoE 2 seems to address everything, that kept me away from enjoying PoE1. I'm very sure, that many, if not all, things I disliked and mentioned are things, many PoE1 vets like or even love, but since afaIu PoE1 will get updated parallel to PoE2, it shouldn't be a big problem (unless PoE2 makes way more money and/or PoE1 makes way less and GGG cuts PoE1 updates down or stops entirely). The only thing I would love to see now getting added is something similar to the the 2 Factions system in Last Epoch, where you can decide, if you want to farm for your gear with higher drops chances and so on or trade for your gear.

[@JamesGreen-lr6go]

a harder POE sounds like a game made for the streamers

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

Even the early access will demolish Diablo 4. GGG are building the GOAT of ARPGs for many many years or even decades.

[@BreakawayL22]

I'm so excited! I didn't know they removed the crafting bench that will be really interesting for crafts

[@pljy4444]

Not sure if I missed it, but can you play couch co-op on PC? Or is that console only?

[@XidMiddleGamer]

I saw it's on PC too ;-)

[@warnerjb]

PoE2 will only be shipping with 6 classes and 3 acts. Not all 12 classes.

[@scshupe7411]

I totally forgot about the new currency. Should be fun.

[@BlabBlab4723]

I feel like many PoE players will be disappointed. When LE started their first season, there were a lot of people asking for 1-2 button builds. Seems like PoE2 wants to move from this style of playing, at least in the beginning.

[@DoctorStrange01]

You must've missed the part where Jonathan said it'll be possible. They just don't want to continue the braindead trend of PoE being one button mash and those builds being completely busted too, cause it takes away from the actual gaming experience and dumbs down the game. Looks like all the major changes they did in PoE 2 are to make players more engaged in the actual gameplay and make it less of a "screen clearing simulator", like changes to skills or combat system itself.

[@jakub5801]

This game will be targeted rather for casuall players than og poe1 players i think

[@DeedlyDood]

@@jakub5801 A game that is more complex and more difficult is targeting more casual players? Do you read what you type?

[@jakub5801]

@DeedlyDood yeah this game will get a lot of bad influence by consoles making it much easier, reducing flasks from 5 to 3 is an pretty good example

[@TheInfectous]

@@jakub5801 Bro. You and I both know that most flask use is smashing all of the buttons every 5 seconds without any thought whatsoever, what skill do you think is involved there? It's literally a tedium based mechanic.

[@hazen406]

bruh ngl, im down to support and all which is why i can see ads also subbed on twitch a few times but 1 ad every minute ? thats wild.

[@BeazyFaSho]

Judging by Zizs eyes, it looks like marijuana is legal in New Zealand.

[@dominikbade9674]

I dont like too much interaction in arpgs. Learning bosses is okay, but learning 100! Bosses is absolutly not okay , some people like me are not that good in remembering so many different boss animations/behaviour. If theres still an option to go facetanky , like in poe1 , which lets you atleast somehow ignore boss mechanics in loss of dmg.

[@GateBreach]

the tree changes based on spells tags is confusing. what if I convert phys to ele? How does it pick up which tree to use>

[@ByoUng-g4c]

im playing a d2 style necromancer bonestorm, bone cage, detonate dead. can''t wait ! !!!

[@Ha-fy6zv]

It took me years to finally beat the POE campaign… still don’t understand builds in that game. I’m optimistic but skeptical for Poe 2.

[@janpesek4862]

PoE 2 is the one and only chance to get back to PoE series. I'm PoE veteran with close to 8k hours played but the game soured on me over a year ago and I have zero interest to play original PoR ever again. I will surely try PoE 2 to see how it is and will give it a try. However, things have changed over the years and I do not have time nor will to play a game 4+ hours a day and have it feel like a 2nd job. If PoE 2 does not change its approach to player progression and it will be just PoE in a shinier cost, I will wave it good bye very quickly.

[@mike4088]

How do I get early access?

[@sebastianross6876]

I want to see what the duelist class is like.

[@WitchDimension]

I just want the druid class, im going to build a high damage light tank were wolf that uses staff,greatsword. And one that uses defensive magic with a bow gun. I want to get all the movement abilities in the game and cycle them out per build. Maybe even do a staff build to create an avatar ang build.

[@caseybrown6813]

Everyone hoping to be ZOOM ZOOM BLASTY in the endgame gonna be real sad when it is nothing like that.

[@nofey8656]

every second put into couch coop was a wasted second

[@felipefarias4868]

tried POE1 once but it was too complicated. hopefully it won't be the case with POE2. I'll still try it as the classes looks fun but please don't make the need for PHD in some areas. just make it fun and innovative

[@marcodeevil9212]

will there be a normal way to trade with players? some build in action house or sth like that?

[@bloodline271]

@Zizaran console players are waiting for this one, please cover both Platforms if at all possible thank you.

[@EricShull-j3b]

MORE BOSSES WITH 5MIN INVINCIBLE PHASES PLEAASSEEE

[@EnderElohim]

11:37 that give me mixed signals. They say they wanna see more combo skills more than just 1 button gameplay but also they say you cant use support gems more than once so how you gonna have proper 2 or 3 button build with that? isnt that force 1 skill to be main again

[@justespelund]

The way they have talked about designing support gems is different than poe1, in current poe every support is basically just %more damage. In poe2, it looks a lot more specialized, meaning fewer skills would have the same core pool of supports they want to use.

[@sierinlang]

if y'all hate d4 what makes you guys think you'll enjoy this casual poe version?

[@deepinside7576]

I'm gonna play it, but the idea of everything being ramped up to be "Dark Souls" like (Ziz says this over and over) is a big turn off POE1 for me is a fun blast, some big explosions, some crazy mechanics, a way to wind down for a few hours POE2 aiming to be slow and difficult is going to appeal to a very small audience - probably the same people like like Ubers in POE1. Most people don't even try Ubers in POE1, because frankly they are just "hard work", so describing POE2 campaign bosses this way doesn't bode well

[@blackomega34]

The souls comparisons are braindead and surface level IMO. It's just not that kinda game. In Souls games you can find an S tier weapon in 10 minutes then steamroll the game with it (zweihander), in PoE you need a new weapon every 5 levels or it starts feeling like shit.

[@sujimayne]

Everything is Dark Souls to people now. Boss? DS. Dodge? DS. Respawn? DS. Seriously? PoE1 is about quantity of interactions. PoE2 is about the quality of interactions.

[@sujimayne]

Ziz only compares it to Dark Souls because he's pretty much only ever played PoE, Diablo and FS games. In DS, you have a very linear upgrade path that almost solely revolves around your weapon. You can find an OP weapon early on and use it throughout the game just by upgrading it. There is no item level and no rarity. In PoE, 1 and 2, you will constantly be swapping to better weapons as you progress and have to consider synergies with your skills and your skill tree.

[@xKam4hLx]

@@sujimayne at least someone in this channel plays something different than ARPGs and FS games... yea, I don't even think PoE2 is equal to any FS game ever, and I'm still hyped for it. (and people don't do many Ubers on PoE1 because they are NEVER rewarded, it's extremely RNG heavy, plus no mechanics, just deal a lot of damage to skip phases and pray for loot).

[@Kyoj1n]

14:41 This isn't completely true for Playstation. It does have crossplay and uou can play your characters on PC and PS, but none of your MTX will transfer between.

[@vergildmc1379]

the wait is killlling me T.T