Reacting To Nadeshot Quitting Call of Duty

[@HondudeTeamMudhogs]

I am one of those casual players that occasionally plays after work with my friends, that being said, I still wanna win. And I do notice these things. Being killed while you’re far past cover has become all too common now.

[@joshlambert555]

And trying to find cover is hard. So many walls you can shoot through

[@HondudeTeamMudhogs]

@ yes. I noticed since B06 suddenly many walls are able to be wall punched. Not even just walls, giant units on rooftops that are “steel”.

[@joshlambert555]

@@HondudeTeamMudhogsexactly. How do you short through a train car or concrete walls? 🤦‍♂️

[@MichaelHorstmann]

Same. This affects casual players just as much. In fact, it was easier for me to quit since I just played casually

[@darkskull8938]

Ticket rate delay

[@dstidham4253]

Only way to force the devs to fix the game is for everyone to stop playing. Everyone. Good luck making that happen. There is ZERO reason for the devs to fix anything when everyone is still playing and giving them money.

[@Quantum-]

I quit. I have 1600 hours on the game. Haven't even turned on my PS5 in a week. Through with their profiteering and monopolistic bullshit despite the masses crying for a fix.

[@andrewroof8042]

Not really. It all comes down to raw numbers. It was always going to start with the big name streamers/pros taking a stand. Once their audience follows suit it will force changes. Cod cannot sell marketplace materials as well if half the gaming population vanishes.

[@dstidham4253]

@@andrewroof8042 it will take an overwhelming majority of the player base to stop playing for changes to be made.

[@jeremykey4563]

The thing is though, it’s not the devs. I’m highly confident in saying this, and if I’m wrong, I’ll eat it, but the devs (line level meaning those who actually do the work) are probably the most passionate about these titles. And I bet behind closed door, lead devs are having meetings with executives showing them these videos and all the social media blowback just to be told by the executives to shut up and sit down and do as they’re told. Why? Because this is the “most sold COD title ever”. Or worse, lead devs aren’t even saying anything because they know if they do, it’ll make waves at the office and they’ll risk losing their job. And when you have a family to feed and bills to pay, you’ll deal with it because that’s the priority. I’m sure the entire dev team is completely deflated and has zero morale because all of us do nothing but run them over with a freight train day in and day out. And have for literally 5 years.

[@dstidham4253]

@@Quantum- I haven't played since before the BO6 integration. Best change i could've made for my sanity.

[@adamhayes2528]

I’m a so called casual who gets on and plays after work and trust me WE NOTICE the terrible servers. It’s obvious if you’ve played any other BR. It’s obvious if you played blackout which was and still is better than warzone. My problem as a casual player is that I play against people who try their hardest on expensive PCs with controllers aim assisted out of their mind with little to no recoil on their guns plus the terrible servers. So don’t say causal players don’t notice the difference because we do

[@danielabele8178]

Agreed

[@MattPlentyGolf]

I would argue anyone watching CoD youtube isn't a casual. You are interested enough to want to improve or watch the best etc. The true casuals will have no clue who Z or Nadeshot are tbh

[@adamhayes2528]

@ I def agree with you. I’m just saying the amount of times I play is basically a casual. I’ll play on the weekends and after work sometimes and I just want to have fun with my friends. I also play on a console. I’m not trying to be a streamer and spend money on nice PCs or buying the battlepass or playing with controllers that are over a $100. So that’s why I’d say I’m a casual. But I agree most casuals wouldn’t know about these streamers

[@pfmcmanamon]

Why don’t all streamers/content creators come together and tell their audience/communities to cancel gamepass. That’s where over 40% of the playerbase plays the game from. You want to hit them to make change, hit them in the bank. Even call it something catchy like the GamePass Gambit. Show Activision and Microsoft it’s not just the top 1% impacted by their awful decisions

[@Jedi1993]

I have.

[@jdub_bkv6598]

That's what needs to happen

[@Quantum-]

Because like 1% of the player base have Xbox and only a small portion of those players own the game pass solely for cod.

[@beardedchicken]

This is stupid. Casuals ain't complaining only big level streamers so why should the casual player who comes home from work to play an hour before bed give up the game because all the sweaty kids are crying online. If they truly wanted to show Activision they are serious then they all need to just not stream the game right now. Play other games and have fun. Cod will soon react to all of this swiftly if twitch has 12 viewers in the cod category.

[@Quantum-]

@@beardedchicken to think that the majority of the player base are casual is laughable. The majority of sales are casuals. The majority of active players are on the game 4-14 hours a day. They have the largest presence on the game. The casuals and their 1 hour a day mean nothing as far as the functionality of the game goes. They don't give a fuck. They barely play.

[@GordonDains]

The game sucks for us casual players too! Shots are landing and not registering and sliding around corners and still end up getting killed and ui that’s clunky at best its bs! The funny part is we didn’t have these issues on verdansk!

[@TK-vu2pd]

You definitely did, you just looking at it with rose tinted glasses

[@antoneath]

@@TK-vu2pd - I certainly can't remember going down about 15 feet around a corner in Verdansk though ?

[@S_Yayyts]

​@@antoneath I definitely remember that shit

[@TK-vu2pd]

@@antoneath bros,dumb

[@frank8534]

It’s ok for casual players both these guys say it.

[@Skywalk1990]

Every year is the same😄 it's like watching a toxic relationship from a third party perspective for the last 3-4 years😄

[@joshh.510]

Meanwhile actually innovative FPS with proper servers like The Finals has a struggling player base. These streamers need to follow their heart, not their wallet. They’re all bark, no bite

[@Skywalk1990]

@ 💯

[@darkskull8938]

4 years

[@apexit]

@@joshh.510 streaming is their job and they need to eat

[@jbcomrad]

Ron and sam from jersey shore

[@widowmaker17]

As a super casual player (1-2 times a week), these are the problems that are pushing me away too. I'm tired of dying behind walls, getting tracked through buildings, and losing fights where I know I got the first shots off on my side but the kill cam shows them shooting first.

[@AvgJer]

This is it 💯

[@Dariddda]

Dude, even Battlefield1 had 120hz servers... from 2016!

[@GrzybDominator]

even 144hz servers and that was for 64 fucking players. We could have EASY 120hz resurgence servers there are 40ish players each map :(

[@Kaczorsan11]

hz is not the same as tikrate

[@ThePoisonDwarf1]

Server tickrate is measured in Hz BF2042 has 45hz server for 128 players​@@Kaczorsan11hz is the standard measure for frequency so basically how many times per second the server communicates

[@Dinho1020]

That’s not the same… but I get you.

[@TK-vu2pd]

​@@Dinho1020literally is hahaha

[@jeffwild972]

Buys another yearly cod* Gets what you deserve* “Why does cod keep doing this??”

[@JohnnyTheBlood]

It’s not B06 it’s Warzone. BO6 is very good.

[@chopstix4L]

@@JohnnyTheBlood you must be one of the guys who play on the weekends drunk with your buddies huh 🫶

[@JohnnyTheBlood]

@@chopstix4L your being funny failed, you tried to insult when I’m separating the two? Weird move. I’m prestige 7. Zombies is the best thing going for it. Multiplayer is good too.

[@Congrats69]

The store has a 120 tick rate

[@JP-yg5bz]

A large majority of us "casuals" have been playing COD for many years so yeah we noticed. Maybe we don't play all day like creators but we notice. It's just hard to jump ship because you gotta convince your buddies to also play something new. We want the same stuff as everyone else. And it's hard to keep playing COD when other games show the experience can be more enjoyable. IMO COD is my favorite game to play when it works but lately the experience is horrible. I played a few Fortnite games the other day and got into several games where my opponents and I were on the same level. Which was awesome but still I wished I was playing COD.

[@vampcaff]

@5:50 why are streamers and pros so disconnected and dense? We don't notice? Are you high? We all notice the dog shit tick servers and want higher tick rate.

[@JSTJAGE]

Then they aren’t talking about you

[@stevesharon921]

IMO the core of the problem is the yearly commitment for call of duty to produce a brand new, polished call of duty, new campaign, new maps, new guns, mechanics… let’s do a 2 year cycle minimum and fix core issues

[@cwdoby]

😂 you aren't even LISTENING TO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. Just stfu and LISTEN.

[@TheFakePseudonym]

100%. I’m guessing here, but my suspicion is that their back end is just a complete mess Frankenstein that they are constantly modding and tweaking but is just not fit for purpose anymore hence all the issues. They need a clean break, but the annual cycle doesn’t allow for that. Warzone is their live service game and they should start from a clean slate on UE5 to put them in a much better to support it on an ongoing basis.

[@pistolpatpatr.9845]

Well they had 4+ years with BO6. But I’d agree with you n the Warzone side

[@michaelgleason4791]

They have a 3 year cycle, not a 1 year.

[@Mark__A]

Agree apart from UE5, that engine is suler g.bage. look et stalker 2 or hogwarts legacy. Nice graphics, but horrible performance issues on any computer. Not really a competitive engine. Even source 2 will be better for that, but i telling you they never going to pay for 3rd party engine. No chance.

[@lukewood6709]

Getting shot by people not on my screen but I'm clearly on theirs for ages 😂

[@TheRealJaCrispy]

That bundle store never seems to be down, though. It loads faster than anything else, ffs.

[@chopstix4L]

Lmfao tru

[@AshfIame]

Bro CS had 128 Tick servers........ 13 years ago. Let that sink in. Valve servers were 64 Tick and 128 Tick depending on the mode, and ESEA was 128. That was 13 years ago, I was there.

[@reference2myself]

My multiplayer games go two ways. I'm either shooting people who are standing still and dominating, or I'm getting gunned down before I can even see the other people. I can tell after the first gun fight whether I'm gonna win or lose, the server decides, it's a rigged game.

[@Sl15555]

ya for sure. the out comes are calculated and you can tell if you have a chance or not just on the 1st gun fight. i just stopped playing for now.

[@ImKodai]

And this is why i havent bought a cod since ghosts. This company is just using its name as a cash grab.

[@nunyo7259]

So you just missed out of tons of hours of fun to prove a point nobody noticed lol got it.

[@aic20]

It's the drug dealer and it knows it's druggies will keep coming back no matter how much they complain. It'll only change once the addictions end.

[@mitchp30]

Dude same.. I like to look back with positive nostalgia on the old days of COD. I've played a few sense, but it's not the same. When you have so many other games way more optimized, and way more fun to play, that push the industry forward, you only see how COD is holding the industry back. If they didn't take such a large portion of players, there would be so many other games that deserve the money pushing the industry forward even more than it is now.

[@LopamineOD]

I disagree that casual gamers don’t care. I work up to 80 hour weeks laying asphalt. But when I get home and hop on a game, I want to have fun. And I can’t have fun if I don’t perform well. Can’t perform well a lot of the time with this amount of d-sync. They also say sbmm is for causal player. But really it only hurts casuals who are decent at the game. Cause i come home from 15 hour shifts sweating my ass off from paving roads, just to sweat my ass off in cod if I want to have any hope of winning a game. ITS ALL IN SHAMBLES. And it breaks my heart

[@mynamesjeff347]

Literally the only reason I play still is because I have nothing to play . I beat Elden ring , Sekiro , lies of p , all this year to avoid playing cod . And I loved every single one of those games , actually enjoyed playing , I hate cod , it makes me miserable after 15 minutes

[@johnnycastallucci4962]

Bro...go play delta force,or pubg,they both free and are very fun and tons of ppl are playing them both at any given time.

[@jaxandbella96]

​@@johnnycastallucci4962let's be real nobody wants to wait two minutes to get into a game

[@jaxandbella96]

And why play delta force when you can just play bf 2024

[@travy2shoes]

I can't even get excited when I have a "great game". I just assume I happened to be the lucky one who's half a second ahead this time.

[@Iceberg_Lettuce77]

Casual gamer here: I usually only play 1-2 hours a day either after I workout or after work. I haven’t touched CoD since the Warzone II fiasco, and I have to admit I’ve never been happier. Everyone should boycott Activision until they either make the necessary changes or CoD dies.

[@GenZen8]

COD is like a British water company, lots of dividends paid out while the infrastructure crumbles below ground.

[@TimRules2]

Call Of Duty finally lost me for good. Uninstalled a few weeks ago and I see no realistic scenario where I ever reinstall. At this point I have zero sympathy for anyone that keeps playing.

[@MichaelVanLoon-i1v]

I am a casual player and have noticed this issue with COD for a long time. It makes it feel like improving on gunfights has reached a wall for me. I feel like I'm trying to improve my manipulation of a lag rather than improve my aim and movement.

[@whippy89]

For those who've played older Battlefield titles, we know all about server tick rate, because they would proudly display what tick rate the server was running on when loading into a server (even back in 2013 BF4 there were 30hz and even 60hz servers. Third party hosted servers/privatley hosted servers could go up to 120hz, but it was experimental and unstable for the time period. But now 120hz servers and beyond are entirley possible. To explain it in its most basic form, as far as the server is concerned it's watching you play at 10-20 frames per second, and filling in the blanks. For a game like BO6, with so much fast paced movement and high RPM weapons, the server just can't cope... 60hz should be the bare minimum, no excuses from ActiBliz/Microsoft whatsoever!

[@stetye]

You and other streams are part of the problem.

[@arturoniggazz]

Howso?

[@Chaoticchips]

They are a small part. We are a bigger issue. Without us the game dies.

[@michaelgleason4791]

Definitely. I don't know how much, but there's definitely people that play and spend because their favorite streamers do.

[@yoParry]

The tick-servers prioritises the one who's shooting which is why you get gunned even though you're around the corner. Which is wild. TacticalBrit made a technical breakdown on how it works.

[@Samas_R_Counts]

Is it me or has TacticalBrit's voice changed? It has been a year or two since I watched him run quads with Jack & Westie but I noticed it watching the video you're talking about.

[@zachz6651]

Free yourself from cycle bro. Also I think you got casual players thing a little wrong.. I think casual players also notice the fact you die around the corner as well. And they’ve given up on the pursuit of becoming a pro level cod player because they have to be extremely good and they don’t have the time and money too. So they decided they will still play the game out of love for it.. we would probably love the chance to be a pro cod player but why take that risk when the game has been absolutely chalked since blackout?

[@HighlanderGameTV]

the casual argument is also stupid, i play casual back a few years ago i had more time and played more nowadays i come home play an hour and thats it... guess what i rather use my limited time with a game that works and ppl dont kill me around the corner... so the more limited my time is the more i pick the game that i play i played 2 or 3hrs of warzone when it came out for bo6 and then left and never came back... why would i waste my limited time with a bad game like that

[@KenshinRell]

Activision’s response: Give us 45 days 😂

[@mrj_fx]

45 days, 45 points, 1 point per day... we get 45 points and we're back on track baby! 😎🙌🏽

[@cfietz1996]

AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK

[@Truth-pending]

@@mrj_fxunderrated comment, if you know you know 😂😂

[@KJChap]

Casual players are upset about the state of the game as well. Don't discredit us like we don't care. We see and experience the same thing as streamers and competitive players.

[@Nurse_Sean]

more people need to do this. a message needs to be sent. even as casual I do notice the tick rate issues and it makes me not want to play. it's not fun even from the casual perspective. getting dunked on b/c of a server makes me want to play less and less

[@CurtisM36]

I've been playing marvel rivals and fortnite ballistic and actually had fun and wasn't then IMMEDIATELY punished for daring to enjoy myself playing a game! How strange.....

[@STKReacts]

Doc has been calling this out since the dawn of time

[@og951]

The bad ticks are wayyyy more noticeable in treyarch games this goes back to black ops 1. I stop playing treyarch WZ completely tired of the half second delay

[@Thirdeyestrappd]

Couldn’t agree more Z that strive to be the best version of yourself wether it’s on a game skill wise or irl is very important and something everyone needs to

[@bobbyturkalino69]

CoD community getting a taste of what Counter strike players have gone through for 12+ years now

[@conan_live]

Z will support COD till the servers shut down, z laner will keep cod relevant all threw the holidays, and because of that they wont be changing anything, all they need is one content creator to keep hope and latch onto cod and they wont realize there game is dead, why? Because zlaner and other pros wont take that step to say im gonna play something else because cod wont fix anything. Theyll keep playing and thays enough for cod decs to go, “see people play our game”

[@marcs_gg]

when we are at 20hz tickrate, it doesn't matter how many fps, or how good your connection is... everything is at 20fps, EVERYTHING.

[@nastytoetag.]

Bro we playing on the same servers we was on co4 back in the day 💀

[@frank8534]

Y’all be crapping on casual players. Yeah we notice all the problems. We hate them too. Why is ok for casuals to have these problems? Casuals are your fan base. Streamers…smh

[@Getupkid825]

Look I don't disagree, but comparing a 5v5 small map tac shooter vs a 150 player big map BR doesn't makes sense to me. Compare it to other games in the genre. Apex uses 20 tick rate, Fortnite uses 30 tick rate, I think PUBG has like 50 tick rate. So the point is they can definitely increase it and I think shooting for that PUBG 50 would be a huge improvement, but comparing it to a 5v5 tac shooter doesn't make sense

[@iddqdgodmode]

Player Perspective: "Best Performing" = Quality and Impact / Investor Perspective: "Performance" = Return on Investment (ROI) = to 1 in the best case- Quality and Impact / Return on Investment = 1 this would be the ideal

[@gking2709]

Keep pc and console gamers in separate lobbies

[@TylerSavin]

I’ve been in this camp for years. Every year they launch it with like 20-30 tick rate, and then drop it a couple months later to less than 12.

[@caseman434]

My favorite is when all I can't see anything through the smoke and dust, then red blasts me through clear open clean air.

[@josuelopez9991]

Respect to both of you for speaking the truth. I even saw swagg talking about this. People are waking up. It's been a while since I left cod. The last one I played was Vanguard. I immediately realized COD was starting to fall apart.

[@mattwhitt5212]

I love it when even on the killcam you’re around the corner and the shooter is still getting hit markers

[@JRS.]

Sometimes i feel like its a numbers/new player count thing or player retention thing for the shareholders. I swear 90ish% of shit in the stock market gets ruined by shareholders wanting more dividends, and corporate greed.

[@OneAverageDan]

I really appreciate the insight Zlaner and Nadeshot, I feel this as a gamer and creator, but it's challenging without having a real proper COD competitor. Although Bo6 Zombies is incredible

[@vaporition]

Activision CallofDuty is Blacklisting yall for this. Yall can be replaced with 13yr olds that want duck skins and wont complain about everything. Youll be getting the Blacklist notice in a few days. Lol

[@aic20]

They can't be replaced by 13 year olds because no one is watching them. The people who get the views hold all the power.

[@toastercombo]

I loved how Z watched Nade's video first, then commented over all of it as if he hadn't seen the video before.

[@JLHill91]

Even casual players want the games they pay for to operate at the highest level possible. We also get pissed when he get downed around a wall we clearly ran around. Or lose constant gun fights we should have won.

[@KinginWithJosh]

Casual players don't complain because they know they are trash and if they die it's because they are sht at the game. Them dying and losing will happen about about 99% of their life. But above average players complain because they are doing great, die to some bs, and they realize "If the game was better, I would not have died in that situation"

[@cwdoby]

YOU are the casual they are talking about. You realize that right?

[@GamingMOFOLIVE]

Every year is the same for all those "azz licker low IQ COD sponsored streamers"😄whenever a new COD drops "We Are So Back Boyzz" lmao and its doesn't make any sense. If you quit just quit and play other games as simple as that. Games like xDefiant did everything for the game and the community and still people don't play it (because they don't sponsor) and its literally shutting down, they also added bunch of new amazing maps, amazing guns skins and everything free now. Today's COD is not the COD that og gamers love to play and now its just a tool for corporate sponsored streamers just to earn bags.

[@89hpspartan]

When are you playing with DOC again ?

[@phokismusic]

It’s a handful of streamers that will be considered call of duty faces, Z and Nade being a couple out of several handfuls. The problem with this is just like WWE in any major publication that the faces rebel, there’s gonna be some new streamer that wants to get some type of content or start a career and they are just gonna replace these current faces with new ones that don’t mind making 30% of what the old ones make; classic corporation model. The most casual gamer barely knows who either of these two streamers are so they won’t care and then the problem will be fixed, and these words will all go mute. Do I want that? No. Because the game has been shit for a while, but people only really pay attention when it starts to not benefit them anymore, whatever that means to you financially lucratively whatever. 8:07

[@Nevertouchgrass247]

Everytime I go to play bo6 on my ps5 the moment I log into my account I get shadowbanned. Like wtf.. this been going on 2 months now.. i wait 2 weeks and then I press play and instantly in a shadow ban lobby.. idk wtf.. i quit a month ago after it keeps happening. I only turn on my ps5 to see if it's going to do it again every2 weeks and it does😢

[@AbominationKO]

Bro I stopped playing after Caldera and it has been the best gaming decision I've made. My game library grew. Now I play MMOs, survival, got deep into Tekken 8, I love it! I still try to keep tabs on COD to see where the game is going.

[@zachaury3731]

Yo fr, I stopped playing as well and without a doubt I’ve had way more of an enjoyable time gaming when I’m not hooked on COD

[@TalonVI]

Even though I'm not a huge hero shooter guy, playing a game that has so much quality and polish at launch like Marvel Rivals is refreshing.

[@CoachBombay94]

Streamer ruined COD lets be real here. None of this was an issue until streamer started to influence studios.

[@jaxandbella96]

Exactly, these streamers turned into clowns, they obviously have no pull since nothing changes

[@bapsd5135]

Side note: where can we get the shirt you’re wearing??

[@MrDucktastic]

Tickrate is an oversimplification. I'm not network analyst but interpolation, packet sizes and other issues can cause what you're describing. I know this because CS2 still has an issue with packet sizes due to the animation system they're using. They don't talk much but one of their network engineers on twitter/reddit confirmed it's being ripped out and a more efficient animation system is being bolted in during the next year. People were playing the tickrate but it's not the tickrate causing issues with peekers advantage/dying around walls. CSGO and Valorant were built very lightweight so packet sizes were not a problem in those games.

[@ryanj357]

They really need dedicated servers with dynamic ip addresses. I've been playing since Call of Duty 2 on PC. Back then we had to rent our own servers if we wanted to play competitively or play on LAN. We could also join public servers based on the map and how many players there were. It also showed the ping of that server relative to location. Call of Duty 2 imo was the best game ever.

[@FunFitDadGaming]

Zlaner whats your thoughts about Apex?

[@NotDiremption]

The disconnect between devs and community has never been so prominent and back then when Vonderhaar was hands on, they were listening to people...like and the release of OG MW3 or BO1 they were even like "fuck you last stand" like they got it, they understand. BO6 could be redeemed if they get rid of the bullshit, AND bring back old COD points for BO1 and make us earn for the camos. High rollers were the shit but then again, sadly, that era might just be over with unless they do something about it

[@MEX_SNiPER26]

Honestly doesn’t make sense how you can be gold playing against crim/ iri or top 250players but you can’t team up with them.

[@Dinho1020]

Reminds me of rocket league. Diamond 2 and getting paired up against grand champs 🤦🏼‍♂️ shit makes no sense

[@WrecklessSith]

I died being shot through a whole azz mountain and I quickly decided this season was doomed

[@Sl15555]

some one was under the map im guessing.

[@SYNDERMiNE]

Hey Z. Great video. Doc misses you btw

[@Chef_Money]

One of the biggest issues no streamer talks about. The "Find a Party" feature is gone. New players cant find friends to play with which makes the game boring after a few matches of getting your ass kicked. They seriously need to bring back "Find a Party" no streamers talk about it. Its very disappointing. Its as though they dont want us to create a community and have fun together any more.

[@need2beoutside31]

I am a “casual” player, but constantly dying behind walls and guys running right up on you with NO F’n footsteps over and over is truly to the point of making this game beyond playable even in a “casual sense”!!

[@MustafaGT]

But don’t worry Z, I’m sure next October you’ll be back with another “This is the best COD ever”.

[@RussDMC]

I work in the tech space and work very closely with Microsoft. Since they are technically under the Microsoft banner now, I can tell you without a doubt and from experience that Microsoft has the server resources to make these issues better. They just don't utilize them.

[@DeKay]

I’m 40 years old and I’ve played every single COD title. I’ve bought them all EXCEPT this last title…BO6. I just couldn’t do it. I still play BR with my buddies but we all agree, it’s becoming so much less enjoyable.

[@MakeGamingGreatAgainMGGA]

Another thing. If youre a company who wants to reap benefits of holidays sales. They BE PREPARED TO WORK OVER THE HOLIDAYS

[@troopertreyy4759]

Genuine question.... could we possibly get a lawsuit started? I feel like with the unnecessary bans I feel like we have a case. Especially the amount of money I've atleast spent

[@dripjermain6662]

This is like if a music producer made a banger song but it wasn't mixed well. Sure the majority of people won't really notice it but anyone who knows any better will be able to tell. And just because thats a minority of people doesn't mean it's not a lot of people

[@Lt_dans_legs89]

As a casual player, I can say I want a game to work! Them not upgrading the servers as times change is just BS!!!!

[@DonAlcopop]

COD being casual is no excuse for all the issues. It’s sad to see a franchise I’ve played since Big Red One (on and off) reduced to this.

[@robevans7817]

I'm a casual and I've been complaining about the servers since I came back to COD in 2020

[@Tyzen7]

Whats insane is the amount it would cost to actually just run good servers would be like less than 1% of their total earnings they make PER MONTH. Its just pure greed at its finest. Its like imagine having $1,000,000 and refusing to spend $5 per month on something.

[@Sl15555]

well they gatta use the old onedrive/email servers for something, thats why they bought COD

[@K20rotrex]

How much $$ did Tim get for promoting the hell out of that counterstrike bs

[@iddqdgodmode]

Microsoft has always maintained the Call of Duty servers. Now that they own the company you'd think that they would do something about it

[@Sl15555]

I bet COD is running on the old email and onedrive servers. you ever see how long it takes to upload the Microsoft servers like onedrive?

[@TheStyleofBeyond]

Z bruh should have stayed loyal to Doc Warzone 1: games that was peak entertainment Friends mess up not matter how bad but loyalty is rare bruh. Best duo ever Z & Doc

[@jonathansmith4737]

The Doc comes to mind when Nade is talking about poor performance as the Doc has a 4090 and hovers around 100FPS.

[@TheSteeyo]

on top of all this Activision every year flexes on us how "this game is our highest sold game ever" but can't invest in the player experience by upgrading servers

[@Xizek]

It's literally been the same fucking shit for years at this point. New CoD/Warzone release, its fun and new for some people then the issues start to arise and nothing ever gets better for a LONG time. People start bitching and complaining but still play it consistently while claiming "its trash, they need to fix". Then way down the line some things get fixed a little and then its "WE'RE BACK BOYS", the cycle repeats and repeats. Stop playing this garbage if it's that bad. The dumbest thing I see is people saying a game is trash or bad and needs fixing yet constantly play it, while bitching.

[@internetjunkie1000]

Do you know what I find weird? Where all the former/current COD developers and executives? Why are they never chiming in to these conversations? I would love to hear their perspective and a genuine explanation.

[@Brdsh0t]

All the streamers care about is their lunch/dinner delivery and donations. Non stop begging likes and subs. Quality of all the streams is gone to hell. Only in it for the money. Effort is incredibly low, making 4 figures a day bitching+moaning. Trying to shine killing unskilled bot players.

[@XC-vx3qu]

oh wait they just released new patch notes to fix some of these issues! *Fixed an issue in Holiday Rush where Santa was unable to aim at lower elevations*

[@aic20]

Their Holiday events are always S tier DOG water... the only good event was ironically during mw2 for Halloween

[@aaron.from.winchester6744]

Trust us. We casual players can clearly tell. Please don’t take us for idiots like Activision does. It’s just the death of the franchise. I don’t think Micro$oft cares if COD fails or not.

[@BrodashMx]

they want to get rid of all of you elitist players, casual players who just buy and move on is what they rly want.

[@andrewhunter6175]

Casual player here and its not just the games bugs that ruined it for us but getting matched up with players like you and the like.......

[@DrewFord20]

As someone who plays regularly it’s not the server latency causing problems. It’s having no functioning anticheat

[@aic20]

It's both.

[@TarpsOnTwo]

I love how all of us gamers are in the same boat. It's just trash getting released by Devs and them not willing to fix obvious issues. Been running into the same shit for a while in Apex Legends. Devs are just out to put out a game that could be great but they half-cook it and look for ways to get as much money from folks. Peak gaming has been gone for a while. I miss the days when I could load up BF3/4 or MW2/Black Ops and online play was so clean. They had their own minor issues but nothing like the crap we have to deal with in today's game... Casual gamers be damned.

[@tonyk92]

It kills me to say i genuinely dont gaf about cod and warzone anymore. My friends can't get me on the game anymore. Its so unacceptably bad that i just cringe at the thought of clicking on the cod hq desktop icon to load the game. Instead, i happily and excitedly click on the epic launcher and fire up marvel rivals babyyyyy!!

[@arji8685]

Hello to everyone . I want to say that i get my 8 or 9th or maybe my 10th shadowban , i try with many but many emails to contact with Activision and say that i never cheated , im 41 years old and i play this game only for fun about 2-3 hours every day with my friends and we play almost always Plunder . I make videos and i send them to Activision and guess what ... nothing happends . My friend says they don't care about for me or my account and i getting with spam reports a non stop shadowban loop . I love this game and i want to play it but always i get shadowban loop that they never fixed !

[@Markymark09]

I really hope all the big streamers take a break from this game along with majority of the community Activision needs to hear us.

[@NiG6CR]

My favorite part of BO6 is getting Voice Chat Banned for 14 days for saying simple things. It’s the best thing in the world getting back home from work trying to chat shit in a cyber chat cause I know I can just step away if people talk so much lol, it’s just the best staying silent and playing the horrible tick game and being forced to stay silent like a dog. It’s the best…. Bring bo2 back where voice chat ban was non-existent