ZOA Book Club: Robert Spencer's "The Palestinian Delusion"

Author Robert Spencer discusses the Palestinian narrative regarding the land “from the River to the Sea” and how that narrative is an obstacle to peace, which he chronicles in his book “The Palestinian Delusion.” Hosted by the ZOA Book Club (2020).

[@noelajones619]

Robert Spencer is an eloquent truth teller. Great to hear history as it was and is. Thank you so much.

[@jrs4321]

Glad JBS brought on Robert Spencer. great talk.

[@Eli-Eizen]

Thank you Zoa to invite Robert Spenser.

[@gerberjoanne266]

Thank you, Robert Spencer! I just ordered your book.

[@EsTornino77]

Well, Im here due to the conflicts that just occured in Israel and Gaza, I learned a lot, this was a complete breath of fresh air.

[@serpentines6356]

I am here watching several different videos from 6, 7 yrs. ago. They are still very apropos. Ben Drior has a very interesting talk. Mordechai Kedar is quite interesting too.

[@enyuthe2277]

Brilliant as always,Robert.

[@d.h.7167]

So great to hear the truth.

[@toniomiklo2406]

Always clear, always exaustive. Thank you Robert Spencer.

[@jerrylewisfan8017]

Just bought it. Thanks.

[@deniimacdougall]

Great discussion I've really learned a lot!

[@hggfhh4449]

Great interview I wish Robert would be on more KZbinrs channels

[@gerberjoanne266]

What I find sad is that most of the participants in this club are older folks. No young people here. That's not a good demographic sign for the future support for Israel among American Jews.

[@lizgichora6472]

Thank you for the update.

[@emmanuelbarham303]

There is a Christian Palestinian People not only Muslim living there

[@bettyk8105]

Christian perhaps, but no better than the muslims who claim to be “palestatians “

[@shulahamilton9025]

Read also Mark Twain's book called "Innocents abroad" . The book talks about his travels to the Middle East. "The land was a waste land except for the Jewish settlements near the sea. ( I am paraphrasing): I travel a whole day through the Galilee and not a soul to be seen. Some Jews in Jerusalem.............." .....Arab were coming from Egypt , Syria, etc. to work in those coastal settlements...................Later on Arafat (who was born in Egypt) called the area Palestine (from Phillistines)...............

[@MisuTee]

Read this book today 2024. Very relevant

[@amitghosh8073]

Hi

[@ehudtokatly9287]

Brilliant presentation, Mr. Spencer. But you must find a way to deliver it in 15 minutes. Very few people can listen for 88 minutes.

[@jaronimo1976]

I'm surprised to hear of Ceauçescu supporting Arafat and the PLO. Since I've read in the biography of Golda Meir that she was a close friend to Ceauçescu and he helped out when Israel needed it..

[@serpentines6356]

C was a horrid dictator...I guess you do know what ended up happening to him.

[@TNothingFree]

Now translate it to Arabic, Many people would really like to listen to such information but can't.

[@joemiller7028]

Progressive "Jews" were triggered, "He's too pro Jewish, pro Israel for me, I lean Muslim " said one Prog.

[@jrutt2675]

It was not a British mandate of Palestine to begin with. Only if you consider Chaim Weizmann the representative of all of Britan!

[@Foster-rv6ty]

Are you a Muslim? What else can the British mandate be if not the British mandate? It's like saying the Islamic state is not Islamic.

[@kanaka108]

Very nice presentation of this war against Israel. I have read the book the history of Jihad. Very well done. My own researchs on this matter arrive at the same conclusion. The only thing I disagree is the 911. This couldn't be made by terrorists from outside, although they surely have dreamed to do it. Anyway with or without 911 the analysis and conclusion on Jihad is the same.

[@Foster-rv6ty]

Are you denying the lifelong achievement of Osama bin Ladin?

[@serpentines6356]

Bin Ladin had an interesting relationship with planes. Or, plane accidents I should say. You can research it.

[@makylemur7019]

Israel must remain a democratic version of Sparta.

[@pg618]

But it is still a fact that people who call themselves Jews by their name by their blood or their religious activities did come from many countries to that location and pushed out some people. What gave those so called Jews the right to push out anybody and who gave the Turks or the English or the Americans or any organization the right to give any piece of land to a particular people?

[@janettucker3196]

Read Joan Peters' book Since Time Immemorial. She fills in the history of the pre-1948 territory. That land was abandoned and desolate. The Jews bought every piece of land they settled on, and it was abandoned land. They brought back the fertility of the land that had been ruined by the Arabs through cutting down all the trees and overgrazing. No one was pushed out. To the contrary, it was the Arabs who poured into that territory once the Jews made it fertile again.

[@pg618]

@@janettucker3196 I do not believe that the land was abandoned everywear and even if it was what would give the Jews (not clearly defined) anymore right to take it then Greeks taking unused land in Turkey or unused wilderness in America that the native Americans had possessed, wouldn't they also have equal rights to take your parcel of land not being used?

[@kanaka108]

@@pg618 He said they bought it. So you have to investigate this.

[@kanaka108]

@@janettucker3196 This book cost 125 euros!

[@pg618]

@@janettucker3196 So when the 1st battle began and the Jews landed there, why did they have A-war if they just came with money and bought it? The Jews were far away amd came there and did not buy all the land but used guns and sometimes money. And what were and what are the qualifications to claim to be Jewish?

[@user-zv8gd3jl7q]

The British establishment of Pakistan 1947 in occupied southern khorason afghan land is EXACT SAME GEOPOLITICAL OCCUPATION SCENARIO as Israel 1948.

[@beautylicius]

Maulzen

[@originalbantu238]

This is an insane conversation, to me!

[@Foster-rv6ty]

How can an evidence based conversation be insane?

[@heshamfm]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@makylemur7019]

From the river to the sea palestine will NEVER be.

[@cedricroney1475]

Those occupied lands were already had people there. They would have the best claim to the land. It's just that their claim was ignored.

[@JuanMendoza-qd5lm]

All the Jews that were taken out of that land by the Romans have the FIRST claim to that land. PALESTINIANS have Jordan!!!

[@user-zv8gd3jl7q]

The British establishment of Pakistan 1947 in occupied southern khorason afghan land is EXACT SAME GEOPOLITICAL OCCUPATION SCENARIO as Israel 1948, but they criticize Israel 😂 the double standards of Pakistanis (illegal Indian refugees of war) in occupied afghan land is unbelievable

[@cameronpickard7456]

"palestinians" are a myth israelis are not

[@originalbantu238]

If Muslims described Judaism like this guy just did....what would Jews say?

[@brianhanrahan7561]

Of if a muslim was.presented as an expert on judaism?

[@superman360ss]

there are already plenty of self hating jews who do that.

[@OceanicSwamp]

Is Robert Spencer jewish?

[@bettyk8105]

No

[@deniimacdougall]

Actually he's a Maronite Catholic who converted to Orthodoxy.

[@lucajacovig8159]

he's Greek

[@flos55]

Yes he is

[@nicki7327]

@@flos55 he is not. It is an easy thing to research on your own. And even if he was, which he is not, what difference does it make.

[@gulamchoudhruy8872]

I want to comment on the speech u gave called, is jesus a Muslim, and want to say that jesus will come back to kill the dajjal (antichrist) and not bring new revelation. He will defeat the dajjal by Allah's will and also gog and magog and then end christianity and all religions only Islam will be established, he will live for 40 years and then he will be buried next to the last prophet. The only reason why I could not comment on that topic is because comment were disabled.

[@frankvilardo9520]

what kind of stupidity is this...he comes back only to die...he lives right now ...he is alive right now...of his own authority...read the Gospel not your corrupted koran...of which there are 37 different editions...all the Gospel stories are the same....the Koran is not and its facts are based on heretical gospels of there day...the anti christ will be islamic...from the caliphate and he and his people will think that they are killing in gods name..but in fact they are not...they will call evil good and good evil...killing people is evil...period...all people are created in the image of god whether they believe in him or not they share in some way his life force...his sense of reason and conscience which comes from him....and we are all born with...unless we have some physiological disorder....read something other than your holy book....in fact go back and read the ingel since your koran tells you too...stop getting the info second hand and spun...read it for yourself....

[@cedricroney1475]

Robert Spencer you are clearly bias. I can't take your bias seriously.

[@user-bh1sg5oc8k]

Islamist useful I-d-i-o-t!!!

[@originalbantu238]

I'm anti suffering. Israel is the dominant power..does little to stop the suffering of many Palestinians. Sad given the history of Jewish persecution.

[@superman360ss]

What about all the germans who suffered during world war 2, would you've been supporting of the german government then?

[@OceanicSwamp]

@@superman360ss im inclined to the belief that not all germans back then were members of the nazi party

[@aaronfrank9649]

I believe that at least 20 % of the people in Israel are Muslim, and are successful and have the same rights as everyone else. The Palestinians for the most part hate Israel and all Jews. They are taught this by their society, their leaders, and their Religion. If someone hates you, it is not so easy to get along with them. I believe that if they worked with Israel from the start, they would be a wealthy country now. The media and universities have been bought by the Muslim brotherhood etc., so now the narrative is controlled by them. That is what I believe. I am no expert and I can’t prove it to you, but neither is or can the media. This man, Spencer is Greek. My moms family are Serbian. These lands were controlled by the Ottoman Muslims for 400 years. Talk to any old person from these countries, and they will tell you a very different story than the mainstream media.

[@cliffgaither]

@@OceanicSwamp :: Didn't have to be a member of the Nazi Party as a German to support the Nazis.

[@jaialaiwarrior]

The history of Jewish persecution teaches to take threats to their survival seriously.

[@shulahamilton9025]

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[@RamallaRed]

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[@jaialaiwarrior]

Boycott yourself

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[@gennaro13]

Why? What specifically is your reason?

[@ericagos1601]

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