yoooo if this video hits 40,000 likes ill review the scooby doo movies BOI
@gracefelony4 жыл бұрын
inabber is cool
@anaxlouise4 жыл бұрын
do it pls
@chrisdedinside10134 жыл бұрын
Hi dad. When will mom come back to us?
@papper71284 жыл бұрын
Bet.
@imhaley10994 жыл бұрын
please do that
@Melaramaa4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a pedophile, I'm just depressed ✨" is basically what shes saying
@Bluebell420694 жыл бұрын
I’m depressed and have never looked at anyone even 2 years younger then my like that, she’s complete shit
@JessicaPradoHanson4 жыл бұрын
I think when pedophiles say things like they did it because they were depressed because when they are normal and happy they can suppress their tendencies but whenever they are depressed they cannot stop themselves from doing what they keep thinking about. They don't want accountability for their actions, they want to try and feel better instead. This is putting the desires of their ego above the health and well-being of a child which causes damage that science is only beginning to understand. But it does explain why my childhood was so shattered when I was raped at 12 by an adult family member. There is still so much to learn and the more the victims speak up the more we will learn is happening. I suspect it is many more boys than we know of because boys are trained to shut up more than girls. Look at the Boy Scouts that just got hit with 82,000 abuse cases. I never knew how many other victims existed, I felt so alone the WHOLE time. I also feel bad for pedophiles after processing my situation and how he became obsessed with me and asked me to marry him when I was 19 at his brother's wedding. He was so pathetic and didn't grow at all because he was in his delusions. Thinking we had a chance for love and happy marriage after I woke up to him raping me at 12 is so pathetic I feel bad for him. I wish he would grow, learn, and become a person that can give back things that help and support others to be healthier. I think they are traumatized by the abuse that is so rampant in our culture and they go after children at a very specific age in many cases which makes me wonder if they were stunted in growth. When you see many priests who will target hundreds of kids and they are all specific ages like 8-9 it makes me wonder if he was stunted at 8-9 and didn't mature past that so he was unable to connect to women his age. Perhaps they choose to be priests because they are so screwed up women don't want to date them. I wonder if they deal with the trauma, could some be supported into maturing as I have? Working to process how we feel and mature is hard work that many don't have time for because of how we function. Unfortunately, if you work to mature by seeing the full truth and processing that without denial. Getting older does not make us more mature, now I think we SHOULD be ashamed when we grow older yet fail to work to grow more mature.
@juuuulianagg4 жыл бұрын
happens surprisingly often when people are exposed for being predators, the whole "i was in a dark place" shtick. cryaotic anyone?
@piagebot29434 жыл бұрын
@@JessicaPradoHanson thank you for sharing your experience with us. I hope you’re doing well now, and I’m glad that you’ve become such a forgiving and strong person. I think it’s interesting how introspective you are about the whole situation. I appreciate hearing your story
@Skelebroski4 жыл бұрын
As someone with diagnosed depression I’ve never gone through a depressive episode and thought, “ah yes grooming a child will help”
@shanana68154 жыл бұрын
"I didnt do anything without his consent" HES 13 HE CANNOT CONSENT. CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT.
@l.l2744 жыл бұрын
It's the equivalent of someone saying "I got their consent, they said yes" when someone was drunk. If they don't have the mental capacity than THAT YES IS NOT VIABLE BECAUSE THEY ARNE'T FULLY AWARE OF THEIR ACTIONS.
@cheruwu96594 жыл бұрын
@@l.l274 "well they didnt explicitly say no!"
@harlensdestruction71154 жыл бұрын
She said she didn’t do anything without consent. Pretty sure that is an implication... and I’m extremely uneasy about what else they did “with his consent”. Also yeah “we didn’t do anything without his consent” completely contradicts “we did nothing besides kiss”. What a disgusting piece of utter S H I T.
@mcberry25214 жыл бұрын
That's the excuse predators use. Coincidence? I don't think so...
@kokohoreboketsu-chan15754 жыл бұрын
im kinda glad theyre not from asia since most asian countries age of consent is literally 12 or 11
@declanmccormack78664 жыл бұрын
"I would never do anything without his consent." HE'S 13 HE CAN'T CONSENT EVEN IF HE SAID YES TO YOU
@uncertain_zee4 жыл бұрын
I could be completely mistaken and I honestly hope I am, but the fact that she said that and then /after/ said all they did was kiss makes me feel like more happened and shes trying to both justify and deny it
@chipmunkbaba87524 жыл бұрын
If he was 16 then good on her but still disgusting but nope she went for a 13
@StormMcBeth4 жыл бұрын
It's okay tho. He's a male so he wanted it. Men have magical trauma sheilds. We don't feel pain. He's probably not going to grow up hating himself and self harming.
@oof34374 жыл бұрын
@@StormMcBeth I can’t tell if you’re being ironic or not-so you generally think that all men want it? is this the male version of “she was asking for it”? 🤨 and you say that men can’t feel pain? men are suffering way more than women when it comes to expressing their emotions because if they do they’ll be labeled as weak and a crybaby...this is the society we live in after all
@uncertain_zee4 жыл бұрын
@@oof3437 pretty sure they were being sarcastic, as a lot of society views boys that way, for example news articles will call rape where its an older woman and a young boy "sex" or "a relationship" and call the victim her "partner" to try to downplay what happened
@jessicaholscher40974 жыл бұрын
she's like "i wouldn't do anything without his consent." woman, he's a child. he can't consent.
@EveTheRaviolo4 жыл бұрын
totally agree, but i find it weird that people keep saying "omg a 19 yo is a literal child" but when a 19 yo has a relationship with someone younger, they're suddenly "a woman", a "grown ass adult", idk i just see so many people deciding wether a 19 yo is a literal child or a grown ass adult depending on the situation, kinda like toxic parents do
@user-ii2jo4nh4j4 жыл бұрын
@@EveTheRaviolo depends on the context
@EveTheRaviolo4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ii2jo4nh4j i just think its a bit hypocritical. always hear people saying toxic parents are the ones deciding wether you're a kid or an adult based on the situation, yet its what i keep seeing done in cases like this
@girlfrmars4 жыл бұрын
@@EveTheRaviolo yes, 19 is not too old, but it’s not too young either. a 19 year old can vote, can have a job, can have a bank account, can have a house, yes, a 19 year old may be a bit immature, but he CAN and HAVE to tell the difference between right and wrong. 13 is a minor, 13 is below the age of consent in basically every country. 19 is of age. 19 and 13 is ethically and legally wrong. it is ILLEGAL and criminally prosecutable.
@sydneysingh42444 жыл бұрын
@@EveTheRaviolo Not the point. So not the point. Point is, he’s 13. He’s a minor. He can’t consent. 19 is also young, but not THAT young. It’s illegal.
@Yddet123454 жыл бұрын
I have been deeply depressed but never ONCE caught feelings for a person 6 years younger than me
@sailormoonnerd_4 жыл бұрын
It's not the age difference that's disturbing (hell, I'm 25 and my boyfriend is 31) it's the fact she's an adult and he's a literal child
@verybarebones4 жыл бұрын
I mean I don't that's an issue if you're like, 40. If you're 19 tho... like holy shit he's a kid and he absolutely looks it too, I remember at his age there were some classmates that were already growing beards and shit... but if you told me this kid is 10 i'd believe it
@wolfzmusic97064 жыл бұрын
@@verybarebones there were kids in your class growing beards at 13? jesus. when i was 13, boys looked like him & looked quite innocent
@kendollguy974 жыл бұрын
I don't know how people can find 13-14 year olds attractive, they are literally obnoxious and stupid xd
@jacklyntree77524 жыл бұрын
Exactly! You don't just start locking lips with someone less than half your age who's underage, and condone it by saying "I was in a dark place"
@jorkmorks4 жыл бұрын
omg he actually warned people that he was british I'm literally crying with happiness the absolute mad lad
@iNabber4 жыл бұрын
lmaoooooooooooo
@ShinePaw1014 жыл бұрын
@@iNabber Hey I know it's unlikely you'll do this but if you do happen to do another video about predictors can you appall to possible non-offenders watching to seek therapy? I know it's a weird ask but- if more non-offending people got treated with therapy before they could possibly offend that's a lot of victims that could be saved from ever being hurt. Many people don't even know there is therapy for these people and go outright to wanting to kill even nonoffenders. Anyway- if you bring up this topic again maybe you could do a small segment on the therapy and that it does exist? (Good video as always by the way)
@joeljames85914 жыл бұрын
Bri ish
@orincroft51344 жыл бұрын
my favorite british bit in the video: "she's lying throughout the whole fring" (3:42)
@AshleyElizabeth_694 жыл бұрын
I laughed to hard
@Oopsbaby4 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been battling depression for over a decade now, I can confirm being a predator is not a symptom
@joaquin84583 жыл бұрын
10 years?!?! o_O
@Sweet_Lord3 жыл бұрын
Well I hope your doing well
@TheTrueDoomSlayer3 жыл бұрын
How are you depressed for 10 years? Not the sound ignorant or anything but come on it's not that hard
@THED3ADLY73 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrueDoomSlayer you do sound ignorant
@mimiqtt3 жыл бұрын
@@THED3ADLY7 yeah it’s harder than they think
@th3louvr344 жыл бұрын
The worst thing is I don’t believe that she “only” kissed him...
@platonicclouds79884 жыл бұрын
yeah, i would not be surprised if they did other things :/
@maxman10714 жыл бұрын
Its bad enough as is. This woman would take advantage of a middle schooler and try to play it off.
@idktbh80414 жыл бұрын
Ikr she literally said "he made me happy in many different ways and I made him happy in many different ways" like wtf is that supposed to mean??
@twinmomma16314 жыл бұрын
@@platonicclouds7988 I would be surprised if they didn't do other stuff.
@LunaSaph4 жыл бұрын
@@idktbh8041 Oh no, is it bad if it's what I'm thinking? You know, that stuff?
@kellywolstenholme81344 жыл бұрын
“I didn’t groom him, we didn’t do anything without his consent” honey, when they’re 13, that’s CALLED GROOMING
@emily34 жыл бұрын
13 year olds by law can’t consent? Her disconnect is astounding
@cocolime64964 жыл бұрын
Well technically grooming is a process not a single action
@turquoisecrow45134 жыл бұрын
@@cocolime6496 yeah and she did that
@ghostjr72344 жыл бұрын
I thought grooming meant something else wtf 🤯
@turquoisecrow45134 жыл бұрын
@Turquoise Cheetah it’s been so long...how is the rest of the family
@chantalbisono49834 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how “I was in a dark place” is a typical Jeffree Star line
@plantsimlvr4 жыл бұрын
I swear Jeffree has said that line before-
@teodoravodislav36214 жыл бұрын
+ Tati
@loonatine4 жыл бұрын
the worst part is she's worse than him
@bambooisgr84 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this!
@karmazen074 жыл бұрын
astral ah, see i don’t believe she is. while the amount of pain you’ve caused to someone should not be compared or measured - i truly do believe that jeffree star has done a lot more evil things
@loneronin68133 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing she doesn't seem to understand: She is NOT the victim.
@tobiokageyama87733 жыл бұрын
She really went: i aM tHe FuCkiNg ViCtiM
@sarahzeldin82744 жыл бұрын
Since Zoe is 19 and the kid is 13, imagine being a freshman in college and your other freshman friend shows up to a party and is like meet my boyfriend that’s in middle school
@piagebot29434 жыл бұрын
🚨🚨🚨lmao
@xMoonlightHuskyx4 жыл бұрын
TAKE A SEAT RIGHT THERE 🪑
@CoxoMaxo4 жыл бұрын
Imagine her real life friends who actually experienced her trying to normalize this situation. I’d be sick.
@rikkity75224 жыл бұрын
My freshman roommate had a hs bf, he was a sophomore in hs and her in college... And they were sexting and shit An 18/19 and a 14 or 15 yr old Did what I could to convince her to break up with him for a college exp, but also because it could get her into actual legal trouble People need to thimk
@nellymerricat59614 жыл бұрын
And she really acts like it’s surprising/weird that most of her friends dropped her 🙄
@JuliKayeArtistry4 жыл бұрын
Imagine "catching feelings" for an actual child. Also, sad to be a 19-year-old with a 13-year-old "best friend." Says a lot about her own maturity level if you're in college and finding a child soooooo relatable.
@tatiana40504 жыл бұрын
Where the fuck do you even find friends that age?
@_Lien_.4 жыл бұрын
@@tatiana4050 in the back of a white minivan
@cocolime64964 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with intergenerational friendships and people need to stop shaming others for it
@Elena-bk4fs4 жыл бұрын
@@cocolime6496 lmaoooo ew
@tatiana40504 жыл бұрын
@@cocolime6496 19 and 13 are still in the same generation. Both are still quite immature, but to different extent, it is definately not healthy for 13 year old to be friends with 19 year old. and vice versa. the power dynamic will almost always be skewed toward the older person, who might even if not with malice but just out of lack of understanding, take advantage of it. Its even worse when its a group of 19 year olds and one younger kid. Sure it is perfectly possible for them to have healthy sibling-like relationship. but it is also fucking risky.
@shismith87854 жыл бұрын
the name pronunciation is annoying......"zo" is a really weird way to say "nonce"
@jamieishere79464 жыл бұрын
I feel like this needs to blow up.
@wolfzmusic97064 жыл бұрын
@@jamieishere7946 it does and it will (hopefully)
@anSAMations4 жыл бұрын
I read your name as Siri Smith at first and that's amusing to Me, idk why
@zoeb-p59934 жыл бұрын
My name is actually Zoe, and normally I'd be upset by the mispronunciation, but it feels less like Fraser's talking about me this way.
@anSAMations4 жыл бұрын
@@zoeb-p5993 I think he's probably intentionally saying Zoe as zoh to annoy Zoe Laverne lol, and not any other zoes out there. She taints the Zoe name
@100simping64 жыл бұрын
As a minor, WE LITERALLY CANNOT CONSENT, I'm so pissed by her saying 'we both consented' LIKE GIRL YOU DID, NOT HIM- HE CANNOT CONSENT
@oatmealcereal073 жыл бұрын
I agree, my best friend started dating her bf at the age of 11, the age difference is only 8 days, so like yh. So for example, they first kissed at 13, which is ok, but if the boy she kissed was 19, that would be flipping weird.
@oatmealcereal073 жыл бұрын
@@ducky_23 we were in Highschool, and when they started dating it was kinda just that they both had a crush on each other, but now there like proper bf and gf
@talzerrie3 жыл бұрын
@@ducky_23 Also some kids decide they are grownups and do inappropriate things for their age, saying this as a minor that have friends like this
@unfuni17173 жыл бұрын
Yo holy shit, u studying law?
@_okkotsu32733 жыл бұрын
Right you may understand some concept but that doesn’t mean they can’t be easily manipulated into something minors aren’t mentally ready[and being attracted to a child’s body??] if they trust someone they might think they can’t be bad person EVEN IF THEY ARE A BAD PERSON
@Award1334 жыл бұрын
A college student "falling in love" with a middle school kid. Okay.
@articxunodorseggnej80164 жыл бұрын
It’s disgusting
@TheFiReLoRd7774 жыл бұрын
"why don't you have a seat right there, what are you doing here?"
@Honeytruffless4 жыл бұрын
Very not okay.
@cherryvoid52384 жыл бұрын
and they only kissed... also is this the girl who was freaking out and crying bc Charli D'amelio was passing her in followers on tic tok?
@yamommaloveme4204 жыл бұрын
@@cherryvoid5238 ofc ofc she's the star of tik tok🤷♀️
@wesleystanley5844 жыл бұрын
she’s not sorry she did it. she’s sorry she got caught.
@o0Avalon0o4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I was flabbergasted at the blame game she's throwing.
@smjustinthejibanyan63284 жыл бұрын
@@mandy4915 kids
@htttpxxx4 жыл бұрын
@@mandy4915 i didn’t know...
@---eh1yf4 жыл бұрын
@@mandy4915 Manipulation she makes ppl sorry for her that’s why she cry’s on camera so much and makes ppl think she has done nothing wrong 😑
@jaethedunce4 жыл бұрын
that's every predator
@junkyj5814 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine kissing a kid, that’s like the most DISGUSTANG thing for me to even think about now, poor boy
@lostinspace85214 жыл бұрын
Bro I’m 25 and I can’t even imagine kissing an 18 year old 🤢, I hope he gets therapy to help him because later on the trauma will start to show if it hasn’t already
@somethingsuperserious88714 жыл бұрын
Ya'll... Zoe look like a man tho.
@fish33213 жыл бұрын
i'm depressed but i still don't feel like kissing a 13 year old.
@OnlyMichaelJackson3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@Thedoubleagent23 жыл бұрын
Amen
@notfound15603 жыл бұрын
same
@trumpgaming59983 жыл бұрын
but what if you're 13
@camcroft62883 жыл бұрын
I mean I'm thirteen
@NayFit3 жыл бұрын
She’s ridiculous. She says she wouldn’t do anything without his consent. A 13 year old cannot legally consent. He could beg her for a kiss and she’s would still be WRONG!
@kukguroki41793 жыл бұрын
He can’t mentally or physically consent either. Thats why 18 is a good age.
@kukguroki41793 жыл бұрын
Also if thats you on your pfp, you’re really pretty ❤️
@NayFit3 жыл бұрын
@@kukguroki4179 awww thank you boo 🥰🙈
@sachinisdabest39343 жыл бұрын
ikr
@knolfyy3 жыл бұрын
@@kukguroki4179 they shoul change it to a time acceptable for one person than do that for a another
@knowmyhustle4 жыл бұрын
I'm creeped out that so many of her "friends" were actually children. I won't be surprised if more comes out.
@spydertv11953 жыл бұрын
She probably has more victims or more to groom in the future.
@Nat-sj4nn3 жыл бұрын
It makes sense tho she seems very power hungry, attention hungry so of course she would hang out with minors who are a captive audience and easy to manipulate. Problem is US law enforcement is still old school in that female predators aren't taken as seriously than the inverse and it's a huge problem. It gets worse if this was in a state like say... Missouri, texas.
@Draftsman_of_Doom Жыл бұрын
She reminds me a lot of Jimmy Savile.
@Burn2Ashe4 жыл бұрын
That one comment on her live has me dead "I ship Zoe and jail"
@Burn2Ashe4 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a minute to acknowledge how many child friends she's apparently "yellow hearts" with?
@raspberrylemons34693 жыл бұрын
@@Burn2Ashe what does "yellow hearts" mean?
@alexhidalgo88723 жыл бұрын
At which time stamp was that?
@haileyhughes49733 жыл бұрын
@@raspberrylemons3469 It's a reference to the song Yellow Hearts by Any Saunders, which is basically about being friend zoned, because yellow hearts symbolize friendship.
@raspberrylemons34693 жыл бұрын
@@haileyhughes4973 Thank you for telling me
@MELONeyWATERson4 жыл бұрын
Zoe: *uses depression as an excuse for predatory behaviour* Chris Hanson: Why don’t you have a seat right here?
@geraniumbonbon4 жыл бұрын
Zoe: i would never do anything he didnt consent to do Lawyers: *press x to doubt*
@diamoon_n4594 жыл бұрын
Ooohh true beauty
@boop9633 жыл бұрын
Hah a true beauty profile pic it looks cool also yes she does need to have a seat a seat in court that is
@povclown2 жыл бұрын
Chris Hanson is the best.
@FoxHybrid Жыл бұрын
Me over here ready with popcorn and soda when The Legend himself, Chris Hansen enters the room
@eringrant72953 жыл бұрын
She said I didnt do anything without his consent. YOU CANT LEGALLY CONSENT UNTIL YOUR 16 IN THE UK AND 16-18 IN THE US
@babypanda34733 жыл бұрын
In the US it depends! But it's still between 16-18!
@elizabeth04843 жыл бұрын
In Germany the age of consent is 14...😬
@rationallyruby3 жыл бұрын
@@elizabeth0484 the age of consent is different than legal age. It’s one thing if two 14 year olds kiss and a 14 year old and a 19 year old kiss. That’s totally different. I doubt it’s legal for someone whose an adult to kiss a minor especially under 16. In the US. Even if someone is 16 (age of consent) and is in a “consenting” relationship with a 18 year old that 18 year old can go to jail for statutory rape.
@elizabeth04843 жыл бұрын
@@rationallyruby Okay, I didn’t know there was a difference in wording, thank you! I did some research so sorry if anything is unclear due to translation errors but basically in Germany if you’re 14 you’re allowed to be in (sexually active) relationships with anyone who is up to 21 as long as the minor is “mature enough”, consenting and not getting paid. So if there are rape accusations or something similar a judge would take the “visible” maturity as well as the possibly given consent into account which, in some cases, makes it hard for rape victims to be taken seriously. If you’re 16 however it doesn’t matter how old your partner is, they can be 21+, which again makes it hard for rape victims because there’s always the “consent” and “maturity” factor. I really hope they make these age gaps smaller and are stricter when it comes to sexual assault. A 14 year old should not have sex or be intimate with a 20 year old, same goes for a 16 year old and someone who’s like 30, in my opinion.
@rationallyruby3 жыл бұрын
Jaqueline all good! Your English is fantastic! Honestly the wording is even confusing for native speakers. Took me a long time to understand to difference. Totally agree that a teen between the age of 14-16 is capable of consenting to sexual activities in most circumstances but only if their partner is also of a similar age. NOT if they’re an adult!
@tigerflamingoes43004 жыл бұрын
also notice in her ranting about people not accepting her apology she refers to the guy as a 'minor' and 'child' in the same sentence... so you agree he's a child?? and yet... disgusting
@jfm144 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that she thinks of herself as a child too. Such people should stay away from kids until they get it in their heads that they're grown adults and need to maintain healthy boundaries.
@nina.c4 жыл бұрын
its concerning how she doesnt understand the severity of this issue. she’s fcking 19, y’all.
@hoepatrol33614 жыл бұрын
@lilstaargirl yep he should currently be in 8th grade or maybe even 7th if he has an early b-day. Meaning at the time that they first got involved with each other he either just entered 7th grade or was already in 7th grade
@bt-jz7ki4 жыл бұрын
it's not surprising, honestly. as someone who's too old to be watching these videos, she's still a kid too. her brain isn't even fully developed yet. I hope when she gets older and further removed from the family that's clearly enabling some abhorrent behavior of hers, she can see how wrong her actions were and truly take accountability.
@leahgerman49134 жыл бұрын
And her content is aimed at children/teens I believe. So the fact that she's trying to normalize it makes me genuinely terrified for the wellbeing of her audience. If this happened once, it could have happened another time before this (the kissing). :(
@tummyfungus3 жыл бұрын
@@leahgerman4913 i was thinking the same thing 🥺 social media can be so scary with situations like this, i can’t believe she hasn’t been held accountable
@buster30413 жыл бұрын
@@bt-jz7ki Bullshit. That's like saying we should expect and be ok with a 12 year old crushing on a 7 year old. This woman is old enough to know better than chasing a kid.
@racheld23biscuitsmom424 жыл бұрын
She didn’t lose her “best friend” because she groomed a minor... *the “best friend” IS the minor she groomed* She’s actually whining about losing her victim... publicly. This behavior can’t explained away as her being young... but part of the problem is that she has her mom’s support in this behavior.
@metalchick27264 жыл бұрын
I think her mom probably wants to believe it’s not true. Like you see that with the parents of murderers too. They don’t wanna believe shit happened even with proof like DNA evidence.
@racheld23biscuitsmom424 жыл бұрын
MetalChick27 but Zoe isn’t denying it.. maybe she’s downplaying it to her mom so you could be right. Unfortunately, her blindness to the situation only encourages Zoe’s unwillingness to take accountability. She strikes me as a stage mom... the kind you find at beauty pageants.. which never ends well.
@metalchick27264 жыл бұрын
@@racheld23biscuitsmom42 YES that’s exactly the type of mom she seems like. I bet Zoe made it seem like no biggie cuz everyone does that. I mean how many times have you or a friend failed a test and been like “but NO ONE did well mom!” Like it’s normal to downplay shit when you’re the one in trouble. But her mom is making it worse.
@kingmartinthe3rd904 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me, I was the victim in the situation.
@beckabelle59274 жыл бұрын
THIS. SAY IT LOUDER!!
@Themudeater3 жыл бұрын
The fact that her parents are acting like she’s the victim is disgusting. And I can’t believe the young boys parents still let him be “best friends” with Zoe after she literally groomed him.
@khalidmohammed76033 жыл бұрын
I think it's the mother not the father
@Fizzyguy201Sonicguy63 жыл бұрын
The young boy should move far away from that piece of shite.
@Kai-iy3kk3 жыл бұрын
@@Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6 yes.
@tobiokageyama87733 жыл бұрын
The boy isn't old enough to understand what happened
@Kai-iy3kk3 жыл бұрын
@@tobiokageyama8773 yeah well his parents are
@sadgurlzluvbunniez4 жыл бұрын
Just because she "apologized" for grooming a minor doesn't mean anyone has to forgive her. It also doesn't erase the trauma she's inflicted on this child. What a vile person.
@deannaxx17204 жыл бұрын
The boy came out and said nothing happend sexually, she has never raped or groomed this boy on any way.
@mysryuza4 жыл бұрын
@@deannaxx1720 Press X to Doubt
@marielgalicha85484 жыл бұрын
@@deannaxx1720 So we have to wait for the moment she did? Being in a relationship is a start where a red flag, a kiss is a start of the grooming and lastly the worst one is what you are saying where it leads to.
@heinrich.hitzinger3 жыл бұрын
@@mysryuza *X*
@leahdelanry85684 жыл бұрын
“He knows and can give consent” I was 14 and groomed by a 26 year old and thought it was okay and a relationship till now and I’m 18 and I’m so upset and have trauma. I couldn’t give consent then.
@d.85004 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happened to you :(
@geraniumbonbon4 жыл бұрын
Oh god! That's fucked up! Hope you get the help you needed ❤️ You dont deserve that honey
@geraniumbonbon4 жыл бұрын
*got (?)
@QuinnshireAce4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was in a similar situation and didn’t realize until years later what actually happened. Children can’t give consent, in any situation legally, for a reason. Children don’t know better, even if they may think that they can.
@tiny_m0w4 жыл бұрын
Chai Kaleel - me too girl. people are truly fucking disgusting and it’s even more gross for others to think your feelings aren’t as valid because you didn’t realize how wrong the situation was until you were older🥴 i constantly feel like people don’t even believe me when i talk about my experiences because shit happened years ago. my heart goes out to both you, and the original poster💛
@katweaver27064 жыл бұрын
Zoe: i kissed a 13 year old, we never did anything without his consent MA’AM HE IS A CHILD HE CANNOT CONSENT
@suekipahpasay65854 жыл бұрын
exactly!!
@daisyx6204 жыл бұрын
WHY DID I READ THAT TO THE TUNE OF I KISSED A GIRL LMAOSKAKAK
@sandielyda13164 жыл бұрын
@@daisyx620 I swear same! 🤣
@emily34 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! This pisses me off so much. She really thought oh the child wanted to so it’s ok! Is an ok reason to groom a child I-
@haileyoconnell51293 жыл бұрын
“We were both in a dark place” Chile he was probably mad cause his mom wouldn’t buy him v bucks WTF 💀
@horseoperamarker3 жыл бұрын
lmfaoooo
@howthetubbiestelly3 жыл бұрын
AKCJSKDJKS also you have 69 likes, I can’t ruin it.
@FoxHybrid Жыл бұрын
💀
@kath84404 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, James Charles almost got canceled and called a predator for flirting with a straight, fully consenting, of age guy. I'm a woman and I think it's disgusting that we as a society have double standards when it comes to what we consider predators.
@mariaislington4 жыл бұрын
he was bisexual as well
@melaniemars1554 жыл бұрын
The guy actually is bi
@mady06164 жыл бұрын
AND the guy even said he might've been bi too
@onlysoraya4 жыл бұрын
lets not act like men dont get away with this shit... its hardly a double standard. people mostly cancelled james out of homophobia and because they literally just wanted a reason to cancel him.
@rahma69924 жыл бұрын
@@onlysoraya yk they could've been referring to his sexuality and not his gender right orrr?
@Mary-nq2my4 жыл бұрын
as a 19 year old with a 13 year old sister, it makes me so disgusted what she's doing. I literally could not imagine if one of my male college buddies started dating my sister. It's disgusting, and imagine the absolute outrage if the genders were reversed. It honestly just comes off as sad and pathetic on her part, not to mention the creepiness of it all
@OnlyMichaelJackson3 жыл бұрын
im 19 and have a 13 year old sister too, if a 19 year old guy tried to come onto my sister ON GOD he'd catch these hands
@haileyhughes49733 жыл бұрын
Same here to be honest however I am under the age of 18 and my sister is around 13. The idea of even having a romantic interest that is my sister's age sounds gross.
@horseoperamarker3 жыл бұрын
huh
@meesh62574 жыл бұрын
Unrelated but that lavender colour is YOUR COLOUR *EDIT: Dang y'all I've never had more than like 6 likes on a comment, while I'm at it I also think that a light shade of seafoam green would be a lovely colour on you as well*
@certifiedhoodclassic98254 жыл бұрын
preach
@alextheadult57274 жыл бұрын
Its lit
@STP9814 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@meghannpalmer74174 жыл бұрын
With the necklace and everything. So awesome
@angelamora75624 жыл бұрын
GLAD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THISSSSS
@thehillisalive3 жыл бұрын
The reason that tiktok hasn't removed her platform is obvious: despite what she's done, she generates views. She's still young, white, skinny, and pretty; the exact kind of influencers they algorithmically want (and have been called out for wanting).
@quirkiebean7933 жыл бұрын
And... shes a woman.
@citizenvulpes45623 жыл бұрын
No it's cause she's a girl. If this were a guy they would've been yeeted off the platform.
@quirkiebean7933 жыл бұрын
@@citizenvulpes4562 Just like Twitch, TikTok people are clearly simps.
@cody49163 жыл бұрын
@@citizenvulpes4562 Case in point, gemini
@skittlessunshine55183 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Imowe_4 жыл бұрын
How can she POSSIBLY “fall in love” with a 13 yo? Like what kind of conversations can she & a 13 yo boy have to make her risk it all? Fortnite? New spongebob seasons? How to do multiplication tables?? Like GIRL
@Imowe_4 жыл бұрын
@GoTo Bed great minds😂🔥
@hoepatrol33614 жыл бұрын
No like fr tho wtf r they talking abt like he literally just learned how to find the slope of a line so honestly wat. the. fuck. would they talk abt
@geraniumbonbon4 жыл бұрын
(To continue with ur comment) Plants vs Zombies: BFN? Splatoon? Ninjala? What universities he's interested into going? His dog? It costs zero dollars to talk to a 13-year old appropriately zoe
@cheetos69584 жыл бұрын
"bae should i post this?" "oh yeah thats cool"/"*heart emoji fire emoji* fire af bruv xD xD "hehe *laughing emoji*/ ilyyyyyyyy" "u ever thought about dating a literal fucking adult?" "'*heart emoji fire emoji* fire af bruv xD xD gotta say yessirs to be cul since i can't vape like other kids and my brain is underdeveloped *seagull claps*"
@Imowe_4 жыл бұрын
@@geraniumbonbon the fact that i didnt know what the things after Plants vs Zombies shows my age group (im 23, closer to her age then she is to his) has nothing in common w his😂
@unknownseizure4 жыл бұрын
Zoe laverne is the female discord mod
@iNabber4 жыл бұрын
YOOOOO
@JOHNNY5-x8v4 жыл бұрын
Really?
@e.e.y.18034 жыл бұрын
SJESJSHSIDBD 💀💀💀💀
@jaylaoliver67254 жыл бұрын
😂💀
@StormMcBeth4 жыл бұрын
Its different when women do it. He's a male so he's not going to be traumatized. Males have no feelings. So what if he self harms in the future?
@Leanne_w4 жыл бұрын
The fact she said we didn’t do anything without his consent. He’s a child he can’t give consent. Why is she even still allowed on TikTok?
@@Leanne_w Why does she exist? Why does TikTok exist? What is this planet?
@teemo91414 жыл бұрын
@italy veneziano didn't the tiktoker gimini get banned on tiktok when he did something worse than zoe?
@User-ve4bl4 жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand how she’s not literally in cuffs yet?? If this was a guy he’d be in prison.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist98684 жыл бұрын
I mean like even if there was no proof, the guy would be in prison just for allegations. And this has SO MUCH PROOF
@AmelieAnthrax3 жыл бұрын
TONY LOPEZ!!!
@aubreyschwager3 жыл бұрын
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 ...or not. how about all of the men that there is plenty of proof for but never get imprisoned and we never hear about because they were never charged.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist98683 жыл бұрын
@@aubreyschwager Ok fair but those are usually the really rich ones who get to skirt the justice system (trump comes to mind), that isnt a thing that happens commonly (unless there happens to be a random minority they can pin it on)
@thelifeofcaraandemily10163 жыл бұрын
Yeah but sadly the justice system is pretty messed up and it often takes years to actually look through a case and imprison someone.
@annabee32234 жыл бұрын
“YES it is a bad thing, YES it is wrong, NO it’s not good” - me speaking to my therapist while ordering my 5th takeaway of the week
@breelovejoy66124 жыл бұрын
BRuh same tho
@freydis19974 жыл бұрын
Don’t shame for the takeaway o.o We are helping small businesses in this trying time :D
@laradanan34114 жыл бұрын
@@freydis1997 sure its hurting my bank acc but we’re helping the economy 🥰
@breelovejoy66124 жыл бұрын
@@freydis1997 takeaway or as i call since i’m from the US takeout S L A PS
@piagebot29434 жыл бұрын
@@breelovejoy6612 OH THATS WHAT THAT IS THANK YOU FELLOW AMERICAN
@tinyperson48644 жыл бұрын
"we only kissed" *Yeah and that dead guy only ran into my knife 27 times*
@OldFantasy3 жыл бұрын
It's just a knife get over it!
@tinyperson48643 жыл бұрын
@@OldFantasy ikr
@biohazardlnfS3 жыл бұрын
Ok there buddy. That's his fault for running onto your knife. ( I gotcha bro hire me for lawyer ty)
@astrostrashcan12233 жыл бұрын
And ran into my gun so fast it shot him 95 times
@annoyed_sister3 жыл бұрын
28 sTaB wOuNdS Idk if anyone gets the reference fjdjfjd
@jasminelambert37534 жыл бұрын
She really said “I wouldn’t do anything without his consent” about a literal child who legally CANNOT consent
@Themudeater3 жыл бұрын
“We were both in a really dark place” Ah yes, of course. When my crippling clinical depression acts up my favorite coping skill is grooming my young friend and beginning a romantic relationship with a literal child. There’s no other legal and healthy way to cope without harming others, nope. Must be a predator to deal with the big sad.
@thebreadster15003 жыл бұрын
Idk it's very legit man!! I went to therapy and my therapist asked if I had a van, so I said yes and she told me to kidnap children and I wont be depressed anymore
@theab39573 жыл бұрын
@@thebreadster1500 Damn, what therapists are ya'll going to. I need to get muself some of this good advice.
@Draftsman_of_Doom Жыл бұрын
…but I don’t want to be a predator; can I commit genocide instead?
@kiskis8704 жыл бұрын
I wish the boy’s face wasn’t out there. Not only did this happen to him his face is on display poor kid
@htttpxxx4 жыл бұрын
literally:(
@alyissarakay28424 жыл бұрын
He doesnt need this kind of publicity and it sucks.
@gargles52704 жыл бұрын
i was just thinking about that :(
@rachelg70414 жыл бұрын
I hope he at least gets reparations he’s so young he’s so oblivious to what happened to him
@Acidfunkish4 жыл бұрын
This should not be legal. His name and his face shouldn't be put out there. 😔
@nikkivolker22584 жыл бұрын
Why is she friends with a 13 yo anyway? Even in the "yellow" tiktok, most of them are so young????
@norakukaj76464 жыл бұрын
Omg frrr
@astrelskies30864 жыл бұрын
19 year olds can be FRIENDS with younger people and kids. Keyword: FRIENDS. Not fuck buddies.
@chugchug724 жыл бұрын
@@astrelskies3086 I mean yeah but it’s still weird as you would think that they’re humor and maturity were at different levels, like when I was 13, I was still watching kid animation and food channels. You would also have to think about one of them going to college which is where it gets weirder-
@Daphanewithpain4 жыл бұрын
@@chugchug72 it's depends tho
@chugchug724 жыл бұрын
@@Daphanewithpain dat is true
@phoenixdavida89874 жыл бұрын
I think she doesn't really realize she's over 18 now... Girl, you're an adult now.
@icewingflowers4 жыл бұрын
exactly, reality's gonna set in for her real quick now
@xorvictia4 жыл бұрын
Even if she were 16/17..... yikes.
@anehendriks6614 жыл бұрын
If it was a 19 year old guy grooming a 13 year old girl, action would've been taken.. The fact that she's able to go on as normal is mind-blowing..
@daniellenelson53002 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately shit like this isn't usually taken seriously regardless of gender & especially if the person has money it's disgusting
@sabrinagabrielle4324 жыл бұрын
My oldest child is 13. The only thing she’d be catching is these hands.
@kukguroki41793 жыл бұрын
I support youu
@ogvdxamond58743 жыл бұрын
Meaning the predator not the original comment
@horseoperamarker3 жыл бұрын
@@ogvdxamond5874 yeah
@nanaprincess25373 жыл бұрын
What would you have done to that 19 year old woman if the little boy was your kid?
@aimeescott21593 жыл бұрын
@@nanaprincess2537 that's what the comment meant. Zoe would be catching her hands (they would fight)
@Grace-ij5mq4 жыл бұрын
bro if you in a dark place turn on a light don't kiss a damn child Thanks for 420 likes children (promise I won't kiss y'all)
@zylachzach4 жыл бұрын
Ikr how do these people not know even phones have lights on them like bruh
@PHDL12954 жыл бұрын
fr
@midnightowl54 жыл бұрын
She also has money to pay the bills too gosh🙄
@JustMe-fb6oq4 жыл бұрын
Yep and if having trouble emotionally: talk, therapy, food, sleep and jokes. Like bruv, get help.
@safinash21654 жыл бұрын
Pressed a thumbs up so it would go from 420 to 669 🌹
@kayleighos4 жыл бұрын
“friends do that, they catch feelings for each other” girl. she shouldn’t have been friends with a 13 year old child , let alone ‘catch feelings’.
@shanana68154 жыл бұрын
Shes right, friends THAT ARE A SIMILAR OR AT LEAST LEGAL AGE DO THAT. Only pedophiles catch feelings for CHILDREN 🤢
@peanutbutterperoxide97074 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!! That's one of many red flags!
@kayleighos4 жыл бұрын
@@peanutbutterperoxide9707 Honestly , she still won’t take responsibility for her actions either.. 19 years old with the mentality of a stroppy 5 year old 😳
@peanutbutterperoxide97074 жыл бұрын
@@kayleighos Yep! And it makes me wonder if she possibly act's like that so people might go slightly easier on her because she's just slow/immature for her age? Idk someone needs to just put her on a list..The perv...
@kayleighos4 жыл бұрын
@@peanutbutterperoxide9707 i think you’re actually onto something there 🤦🏼♀️ all the crying on camera and the tantrums that she records like girl you’re 19💀
@chancewill69104 жыл бұрын
"Friends do that, they catch feelings for each other." Ew the only feelings I have for my friends are platonic/sibling
@georgesmith43073 жыл бұрын
I mean, sometimes friends catch feelings, but they're usually the same age, not an adult and a thirteen year old 😬
@horseoperamarker3 жыл бұрын
same
@Kai-iy3kk3 жыл бұрын
I had a crush on my friend but she was only 2 months older than me plus we're not friends anymore :/
@horseoperamarker3 жыл бұрын
@@Kai-iy3kk F
@celestecasale31564 жыл бұрын
Wait isn’t this the girl who cried when Charli passed her on tik tok followers
@TwoNerdGirlzz4 жыл бұрын
yep
@stardustninjaabandonedacco88054 жыл бұрын
yeah. broke down because she was no longer “the star of tiktok” or “the queen of tiktok” pathetic.
@Gavin_NA4 жыл бұрын
Bruh LMAO
@DeshraD4 жыл бұрын
Also threatened to kill her iirc
@praisethesun11724 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@hopemxx15244 жыл бұрын
“wouldn’t do anything without his consent” .... that’s the gag Zoe. He CANT CONSENT.
@ashbashlikesmash4 жыл бұрын
I’m 19 and my sister is 13. All her friends are CHILDREN to me. I cannot imagine catching feelings for any of them...
@morfrid42624 жыл бұрын
My brother is only 2 years younger and all his friends are children to me, and we are in our 20s ffs. How she caught feelings for an actual child is just so confusing to me
@geraldgreg53704 жыл бұрын
Like seriously though, the people that are a grade lower and a year younger than me at school are like babies to me.
@emmajanofsky4 жыл бұрын
My brother is 16 and I’m 19 and he will always be a baby to me. Everyone under 18 I consider a baby. The fact that a 19 year old saw a 13 year old and “caught feelings” is wild
@ravenfire58273 жыл бұрын
"Friends do that, they catch feelings 4 each other." Lmao no tf we dont
@sentientplant96583 жыл бұрын
The only feelings friends catch for each other is familial love that's it
@stevie92023 жыл бұрын
I mean I have caught feelings for friends before... But my friends have been my age...
@jasminpovey493 жыл бұрын
Friends can yeah but wtf was she friends with someone so much younger! Thats just so wrong on its own 🤢
@sagewolf91563 жыл бұрын
I mean, sure, friends can catch feelings BUT I know I wasn't friends with any 13 year olds at 19. I get if the kid is the child of a family friend, but being such close friends to someone so young is kind of creepy. It also speaks to her immaturity if she thinks she connects with people that young. Most adults dont have that much in common with a 13 year old.
@randomuser85743 жыл бұрын
platonic love is where it’s at
@KaraIsabella4 жыл бұрын
As a person who cares about gender equality, it goes both ways. We need to be treating this the same as if a 19 year old guys was grooming a 13 year old girl. This is disgusting. Edit: I'd like to point out that both famous men and famous women alike get away with grooming and pedophilic behavior (ex. Tony Lopez AND Zoe Laverne). However, as a society we generally brush off women's behavior when it should be taken seriously regardless of gender
@NotQuiteBagel4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@birdgod55844 жыл бұрын
If it was a guy, he would probably get beaten in the streets
@KaraIsabella4 жыл бұрын
@@birdgod5584 I mean, no. Have you seen the adult, male tiktokers who have been caught with minors? They've never been beaten in the streets. It's famous privilege
@xPopxTartsx4 жыл бұрын
Ahem..Danielle Cohns boyfriend 👀
@mt32boi454 жыл бұрын
I think you would like Kazuma from konosuba
@larifari12oder34 жыл бұрын
I hate it when the older person says "oh it is not so bad, he wanted it blablabla". A friend (then 10, m) of mine got molestes by his babysitter (then 17, f) and she was always saying oh one day he can brag about this and he will be the hero of everyone. He is 32 now and just started therapy bc it was always sth that prohibited him from having relationships.... He also wanted to go to the police about but they said, one: too much time has passed and two: he should feel good that his hot babysitter wanted to sleep with him... Men have it way harder in these situations and people like this girl just take advantage of that
@michellejarvis78784 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I am always disgusted by the double standards. A boy child is still a child. He can't process adult sexual behavior. It's going to mess him up, just like a girl. People need to stop this nonsense which says boys/men have no feelings and nothing bothers them. Being molested is not something anyone boasts about. Disgusting.
@chugchug724 жыл бұрын
Honestly thanks for pointing this out, MOLESTATION APPLIES TO ALL. Having sex is NOTHING to brag about, no one wants to hear about your sex life and how you conquered a bunch of people, god knows your parents wouldn’t like hearing it. You can be raped as any gender and have the mental aftermath destroy your love life, I honestly ran into problems as a young child due to people exposing me to emotions I didn’t know how to deal with when it came to sex and dating. And I imagine it must be worst for guys when people actively say they don’t care and you should be happy if a girl has sex with you, like no, not all guys want to have sex. Studies have shown that genders are equally horny and have the same amount of sex. There is no gender that is better when it comes to emotions, love, or sex. We shouldn’t compare genders to each other as they have respective things they can and can’t do when it comes to the individuals. TLDR; guys are just like girls and feel things too, no one should ever have sex without consent or being prepared for it.
@clayzor82314 жыл бұрын
I just wish everybody would stop saying that a boy being molested and or raped by a woman is perfectly fine and “lucky lad” and all of this other shit but if a girl is molested and or raped by a woman or a man the offenders should be castrated and burned at the stake. All offenders should be prosecuted respectfully, it doesn’t matter if it’s a boy or a girl or a woman or a man, everyone who offends should be taken into jail. I was molested when I was young, but people care more about what I went through because I am female, if I were a man then i probably wouldn’t have gotten the support that i did. I feel horrible for anyone who isn’t taken seriously about their abuse and I hope one day they can come forward and have the support that they need.
@lauren32174 жыл бұрын
I hope that the therapy had been helping him? He deserves to be able to live a normal life x
@Draftsman_of_Doom Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry your friend was abused.
@thunderboltssoftball59774 жыл бұрын
When he was showing her live did anyone catch that person saying “OK GROOMER” HHFFHFHDHDJDKF oml I’m dead
@Pumpkiinhead4 жыл бұрын
I DIDNT UNTIL U SAID SOMETHING SKSKS THANK U
@selaniemartinez91244 жыл бұрын
I-
@emmyx86864 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀
@hhyperbaIIad4 жыл бұрын
timestamp or electric chair
@marliklejdi01084 жыл бұрын
CFC bybtbybybyngbybybfxhhhhaaahahahahahahhaah people were saying “I ship Zoe and jail” 🤣🤣
@bumblebeeproductions16733 жыл бұрын
Zoe: “Go WAtCh DIsNeY” Me: “That suppose to be an insult?”
@cjxrt3 жыл бұрын
@2 Timothy 3 calm down english teacher timmothy
@horseoperamarker3 жыл бұрын
yea lmao endgame is a disney movie and it was amazing
@g.masterlordoftheg-force47703 жыл бұрын
@@horseoperamarker I know Disney owns Marvel, but I never really considered the movies to be Disney. Especially since the characters weren't made by them, and some of the movie plots are inspired by the comics, some of which came out before Disney bought Marvel.
@ann4be1sings4 жыл бұрын
i've got to say, you're my favourite commentator because you manage to be funny, without taking away from the seriousness of the topic. you're always great and v well researched so ty :)
@iNabber4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, comedy is something i really try to improve on. So compliments like this really helps!
@kingzweiiii29234 жыл бұрын
She apparently has turned comments off on her TikTok.
@smoxthybweh4 жыл бұрын
Oop
@Khadi02064 жыл бұрын
Yup
@huddyshoodie82464 жыл бұрын
Yh
@Skelebroski4 жыл бұрын
That’s gotta say something.
@melissataylor8814 жыл бұрын
“We both realized it was wrong.” Umm he’s 13- he shouldn’t have to realize anything. You are the adult. You endangered a child. He never should’ve been put in this situation in the first place. Ugh my heart hurts for this child
@emmamurabito3 жыл бұрын
fun fact! I made a tik tok about her and her scandal that got I think over 30k views and over 5k likes until her fanbase the “zoenuts” reported it and it got taken down for bullying and harassment, while they were also calling me ugly and making comments about my looks in the comment section as if that isn’t bullying. I reuploaded it though after it getting taken down again a few times and it’s still up and at the top of the sound I used so that’s good! great video as always king! 🥺💗✨
@Draftsman_of_Doom Жыл бұрын
TikTok. More like SickTok. So many damn creeps on that site, apparently. 🤮 Thanks for your service.
@hollyarrharr52384 жыл бұрын
A 19 yr old woman cannot be “best friends” with a 13 yr old boy- what would you have in common? What would you talk about? If my parents found out that I was hanging out with a 19 yr old man when I was 13 they would have called the police 😐
@melfree25454 жыл бұрын
I know right? When I was 19 I didn’t want to hang out with any 13 year olds, but especially not a 13 year old BOY.
@cielpotatohive4 жыл бұрын
FR tho in my country when you're 13 you start highschool and when you're 19 you are already learning for a job or something Like can you imagine being around someone that just finished middle school and "catching feelings" for them it's just absolutely disgusting
@jfm144 жыл бұрын
I mean, I can think of some instances in which an adult and child could become friends in an appropriate way... like a kid who helps their neighbor with the gardening and gets to know them. Or through a program like Big Brothers, Big Sisters. People of any age can find things in common and become friends, even close friends. The problem is when there aren't healthy boundaries in place. I get the feeling that this woman doesn't think of herself as an adult and doesn't think of her victim as a child... that's obviously a dangerous lack of boundaries and self-awareness. It's her responsibility as an adult to understand these things because in terms of brain development and experience, she's more capable. She needs to be held accountable in a more tangible way than being "cancelled".
@hollyarrharr52384 жыл бұрын
@@jfm14 I hear what you’re saying, but in those instances it’s still more of a mentor type relationship, whereas she is saying that they are “best friends”. A best friend is someone that you can talk to & confide in- how is a 13 year old boy supposed to comprehend the life of a 19 year old woman? She seems quite emotionally dependent on this little boy, which is unhealthy & very manipulative. I agree with you that maybe she doesn’t think of herself as an adult, judging by her tiktok tantrums... I hope she gets help, so that she can understand exactly what she has done wrong.
@hollywoodflix74 жыл бұрын
Heres the tea i got of Zoe. Leaked footage she didn’t want anyone to see kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHOc2iDZ9ykkJI 🥺🥺🥺🥺😥poor connor
@cosmicnic4 жыл бұрын
Her going live with her mom and crying is really really them trying to make her look like a little girl and not the young adult she is
@hollywoodflix74 жыл бұрын
Heres the tea i got of Zoe. Leaked footage she didn’t want anyone to see kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHOc2iDZ9ykkJI 🥺🥺🥺🥺😥poor connor
@ginihall12344 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@degenerateangel68914 жыл бұрын
She's 19??? She acts like a damn 13 year old herself.
@lima92124 жыл бұрын
Fraser said it himself... the human brain isn't really done before 25 😬
@Elena-bk4fs4 жыл бұрын
@@lima9212 that’s a rough estimation. experts such as the european college of Neuropsychopharmacology suggest that brain development highly varies and “finishes” anywhere between 20-23 (can go as high as age 25, it’s kinda varied from person to person) for females. honestly, her stage of cognitive development is much more established than we’re giving her credit for. in other words, *she knew exactly what she was doing and that it is fundamentally wrong* /:
@bobbiedaniel93474 жыл бұрын
that's probably why they got along
@Spookdog4 жыл бұрын
from my experiences, most p*dos tend to be very mentally/emotionally immature, which is why they don't realize their attraction is wrong. I mean I'm no expert but, I feel like there's gotta be some connection there. like with how onision and pretty much every groomer I've met/come across seems to have a very immature sense of humor or be mentally stuck in the early 2000s in the worst way.
@rachelfrazier72453 жыл бұрын
The “yellow” TikTok Conner was literally sitting on her shoulders that’s a lil to close to be just “kissing”
@keirareneau4 жыл бұрын
as a 19 year old girl myself, i can’t even FATHOM associating with a thirteen year old. they’re a child, she’s an adult! it’s so insane
@isabellasanchez48033 жыл бұрын
I’m 13 😏
@OnlyMichaelJackson3 жыл бұрын
im 19 and i can't STAND 13 year boys or kids in general what tf does she SEE in a literal CHILD
@Themudeater3 жыл бұрын
Maybe mentoring a younger person but other than that? Like y’all don’t have nothing in common so it doesn’t make sense to be involved with a child when you’re an adult.
@onyxrose43493 жыл бұрын
@@Themudeater Or if you had similar interests, like say playing video games or something. Though with a FAN is just wrong. Don't ever do that. There is no excuse about that. Like hanging with a friends sibling or a nephew/niece? Sure, that makes sense. Some random fan of your tiktok? Ugh.
@quirkiebean7933 жыл бұрын
Its disgusting to use someone like that.
@izzybee71564 жыл бұрын
Does she think because she’s female that it’s not a crime 🤦🏼♀️
@rdripps14 жыл бұрын
Apparently tiktok feels the same way
@yamommaloveme4204 жыл бұрын
@@rdripps1 her fans are delusional asf and are most likely the children who still support her
@silverpool71644 жыл бұрын
She’s not sorry for her actions-she’s sorry she got caught.
@47ratsinahoodie3 жыл бұрын
And even then, barely
@No-xi8rb3 жыл бұрын
True
@ashburn53393 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment on the livestream- "I ship Zoe and jail 😍😍😍" Lmao I can't-
@anaxlouise4 жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about this, i’ve not seen many people talking about it
@iNabber4 жыл бұрын
fr!! im shocked not many are talking about it
@imapsychopath13844 жыл бұрын
Ready to glare talked about it.
@angiet73804 жыл бұрын
Def Noodles was like the first to cover it
@anaxlouise4 жыл бұрын
@@angiet7380 i know other people have talked about it? i just said i’ve not seen many .... which is true
@rehemazabibu74934 жыл бұрын
@@angiet7380 facts
@hiamKat4 жыл бұрын
The thing that frustrates me the most is that **Her fans are children** She has so many fans that are like 8-12 years old and she pulled an Onision. She’s a massive influence and these “Zonuts” will go to her defense no matter what. She’s so manipulative and a downright awful person. Thanks for speaking about her Fraser, you’re the biggest channel I have seen who has talked about her.
@gabiencina3634 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! Just like onision
@demis.60444 жыл бұрын
Makes it even more scary because these children will think this kind of relationship is normal. If she doesn’t see the big deal of it how in the hell will they 😫
@joydot.dot.dot.80404 жыл бұрын
The kids probably heard and thought: *So I have a chance??!!*
@andreas_iced82973 жыл бұрын
Nabber's point about kids not understanding what's happening until they're older hits too fucking close to home. My sibling was a victim to our brother. When my sibling's story came out, it casted every interaction I have with that brother in a new, terrible light. Years later, after my family has been destroyed (for multiple reasons, but this was kind of the catalyst), and I can finally admit it: my brother groomed me. I'm 19 now. This all happened over a decade ago. It took me this long to look the truth in the eyes, and it only happened because I'm still dealing with unexpected repercussions of those events, from all those years ago. There's no one left for me to come forward to... even if I did, no one would believe me, except maybe that sibling... the best I can do is heal.
@lutchien3 жыл бұрын
You'll be okay. Take very good care of yourself.
@Draftsman_of_Doom Жыл бұрын
Sorry you went through that.
@samanthabrit4 жыл бұрын
Zoes mom is exactly why Zoe is turning out how she’s turning out
@maxman10714 жыл бұрын
Well... I dont think the mother made her into a predator, but she's definitely enabling her to continue
@nothinghappens98114 жыл бұрын
She's an enabler for sure.
@StormMcBeth4 жыл бұрын
Right. Because a woman can't just be a pedo. It's someone else's fault she's like that. People like you are why I couldn't come forward with my story for 11 years. You honestly just blame everyone except the woman.
@samanthabrit4 жыл бұрын
@@StormMcBeth I never said that Zoe is not to blame. She’s an adult who sexually assaulted a young boy. What I meant by my comment was: it’s Zoe’s mother’s fault that Zoe is an adult with the maturity of a middle school girl. She’s incapable of taking any real accountability for her actions. She admitted to what she did yet said the boy consented and that they were best friends... undermining the fact that the boy is a victim. The boy can’t consent because he’s a child and their “friendship” was inappropriate to begin with. Her mom not finding it strange that her daughter was spending time with a 12 year old is a red flag. Then Zoe gets caught and faces backlash and her mom says “you all don’t know what you’re talking about” and “it was just a kiss” and “he’s her best friend” is also a red flag. She’s making excuses and won’t hold Zoe accountable for the fact that she preyed upon him. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. I’m sincerely sorry for what you’ve gone through in your life but I’m not out here victim blaming. I was just pointing out that Zoe’s mom is a bad mother for enabling her.
@larabotts60384 жыл бұрын
Uhhh in that slideshow you narrated, half her "friends" look really young 😳👀
@another_form4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the 13 year old boy this whole thing is about featured in that slideshow 🤦♀️
@larabotts60384 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have no doubt, but there's more than just one, even females. It's creepy.
@emily34 жыл бұрын
Right one of those girls looked like she was 6 or 7 like what is she doing with these children????
@dania44074 жыл бұрын
@@emily3 ughhh, i feel sick. that's actually gross.
@ejblankenship77864 жыл бұрын
"Wouldn't do anything without his consent" he is LEGALLY not able to give his consent. Gross.
@juliajodon3 жыл бұрын
Okay but side note: you would look really good with a dark red lipstick
@picolascage9053 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Pipopipoyippee3 жыл бұрын
Ok but he really was
@strwbrytia3 жыл бұрын
true dat ⛷️
@mr.chocolatehazelnutspread83173 жыл бұрын
i feel like you could’ve said this on any other video than this one weird ass
@jessebrown19964 жыл бұрын
"She hasn't been caught for downloading VHS movies" oh thank god for that, as we all know from those 90s commercial, that is the most heinous crime of all.
@mellohatesyou4 жыл бұрын
As someone who was groomed at a young age, this is extremely sickening to see that she still has a platform
@FlareJollyDragoness4 жыл бұрын
It makes me sick and furious. I've been groomed too, and my abusers are still out there. The only reason why they aren't in jail now is because I spoke too late and the statue of limitations ran out. A predator is a predator, no matter what your gender is! It takes a lot of planning, manipulation, and figuring out what to do if you get caught doing this shit. It is always calculated. It's not "a mistake." This girl planned it!
@mellohatesyou4 жыл бұрын
@@FlareJollyDragoness EXACTLY, i was too young to realize what was happening to me and when I did I already lost contact with them. Grooming is so sick and too many people get away with it. Its scary to think how many people do this.
@FlareJollyDragoness4 жыл бұрын
@@mellohatesyou I'm sorry you had to go through this. I hope you're healing and coping with the scars.
@mellohatesyou4 жыл бұрын
@@FlareJollyDragoness I hope you are doing ok now as well, please stay safe ❤
@FlareJollyDragoness4 жыл бұрын
@@mellohatesyou Thank you!
@taylorraines1634 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that in her "yellow" tik Tok there is STILL PICTURES OF THE MINOR. like. where are the police. someone has to protect that boy
@nyatdr74733 жыл бұрын
Why isn't she in jail yet 😀?
@em_mkay3 жыл бұрын
Yeah like
@softys4444 жыл бұрын
i'm 24 and seeing a 13 year old makes me CRINGE. jesus.
@nanaprincess25373 жыл бұрын
I'm 22 seeing a 13 up to 15 years old.... Well i dont even watch them lmao. But they are just annoying babies for me. So seeing a grown ass woman aged 18 years old or + just going after 13 years old... It's just so unreal.
@Emileeeee4 жыл бұрын
How does a college-aged person befriend a non-relative middle schooler in the first place? That in and of itself is weird!
@gracehollz20524 жыл бұрын
If this was a 19 yr old guy with a 13 yr old lass, it would be covered more. But its a lass, so she can apologise and move on 😶 what a joke
@imghost30324 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong
@mabby56154 жыл бұрын
Oof. This has been covered a lot from what I've been seeing. This is a weird thing to say since this is the exact phrasing that misogynistic people say in order to try and discredit victims.
@simoneingleson42804 жыл бұрын
@@mabby5615 no she’s completely right. Male victims almost never come out because they’re not taken seriously and even when they are they must’ve wanted it because they should want any female advance. Women hardly ever get reprimanded for their actions and Zoe Laverne has not been covered as much as say the guy, I can’t think of, who did a very similar thing. I believe he was flirting with underage girls and he got absolute shit from it. Zoe went further by kissing him and yet I’ve only seen maybe one or two youtubers cover it
@mabby56154 жыл бұрын
@@simoneingleson4280 yea your right. But misogynistic people use this as an excuse to keep women quiet
@mabby56154 жыл бұрын
@@simoneingleson4280 I've seen many many people covering this story
@sylviawedding9374 жыл бұрын
If the guy was 19 and she was 13. He would be in jail already.
@declanmccormack78664 жыл бұрын
"Don't believe everything you hear" bruh we SAW the video of you kissing a 13 year old,,, no hearing required
@melfree25454 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, but who are you gonna believe? The Star of TikTok, or your own lying eyes?
@iciajay68914 жыл бұрын
She also admitted on camera to her crimes so.... wtf
@Kloudmeister3 жыл бұрын
@@melfree2545 my eyes, definitely my eyes
@themurrrr4 жыл бұрын
MINORS. CANNOT. CONSENT!!!!!!!!
@shanley_rn72764 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 a little louder for the people in the back!!
@IssaLio50004 жыл бұрын
She needs to think of it like this, when she was a senior in highschool, he was still in elementary. That's gross AF
@pounceroreo23 жыл бұрын
I mean when you’re like me F(25) and with M(36) kinda same thing... but much different.
@mandymoe123 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you for the validation! I had someone in my family do these things to a minor and everyone is gaslighting me and saying "it's not that big of a deal!"
@inkygang72983 жыл бұрын
I hope you’re okay. It makes me feel horrible to hear that happen.
@izzydog1114 жыл бұрын
"I know it was a mistake!" No, it was an abomination, a crime she's using such downplaying language, I hate this so much.
@izzydog1114 жыл бұрын
She's also using language like 'we' which is classic predator behaviour of blaming the victim for what happened
@jorjahlanay4 жыл бұрын
“It’s literally my first time” babygirl, that’s what the predators say on dateline to catch a predato...
@verybarebones4 жыл бұрын
I totally thought this would be something like a fan stealing a peck and her laughing it off and BOY WAS I WRONG
@ANGRYYYYYYYYY3 жыл бұрын
i want to throw up she still has a cereer and some people who said a joke gets canceled, for real? im legit going to throw up
@thebreadster15003 жыл бұрын
Worse part? She pulls the middle finger on people "cancelling" her. Fucking disgusting
@antler99273 жыл бұрын
When pedophiles try to defend themselves for things they did, it makes me sick like that too... that can change the mindset of a child forever
@thebreadster15003 жыл бұрын
@@antler9927 and the people defending her and telling kids that they're A) clout chasing or B) lucky is just so fucked up
@antler99273 жыл бұрын
@@thebreadster1500 I can't imagine being the victim in the situation. I feel so bad for him.. its sad people don't take this stuff seriously though, unless they know how it feels or have common sensibility.
@Icecream0monster4 жыл бұрын
she comes off as very childish to me, like she hasnt realized she is an adult yet... most people past the age of 15 grasp the concept of grooming and the power imblance between people at this age... she needs help and needs to be ashamed of herself in order to move on from this
@Lex137_4 жыл бұрын
"we were both depressed" kinda makes her look worse because not only did she take advantage of a child but also emotionally took advantage of him during a dark time in order to make herself feel better. Yeah that's going to be a huge yikes from me.
@Sophia-vk5bq4 жыл бұрын
"And don't believe everything you hear." She's right. And everyone should start by not believing Zoe.
@hello-qz5nt3 жыл бұрын
why is she even friends with a 13 year old? she’s 19!