MacBook Pro - 5 Things Apple Isn't Telling You!

[@shunnybunny]

Is not that Apple don't tell you. No one talks about it. Not even Intel.

[@debendragurung3033]

Yi-Shun Wang It's not Intel that decides whether to turbo boost. It's the laptop manufacturers preference. So, it's all upto Apple.

[@Billy123bobzzz]

No that is not correct at all. The Intel CPU does all the switching and turbo-boosting internally (inside the CPU chip itself). Apple, like Microsoft, like Linux, cannot control that. What Apple can do is to detect when the system is lightly loaded and send all the processes to one CPU core so Intel's internal mechanism can put the other cores to sleep, then Intel's internal control will ram up the turbo speed up to its turbo limit (minus thermal throttling).

[@beloved3244]

Billy Bob SHUT UP..LOL your arguments sucks...as DOES APPLE

[@P22_Do0C]

Hyper Threading vs Turbo boost from Intel ( 1 core overclocking vs All core over clocking ) this is true :)

[@djw1091994]

So a few weeks ago I got the 2016 base 15inch model MacBook Pro refurbished from Apple's site. I haven't had any problems with it. Including the ones mentioned here and elsewhere. I assume they have replaced problematic components before reselling them. I would recommend anyone that wants to get a MacBook to consider Refurbished one from their website. Looks and works like brand-new. No scratches or any cosmetic damage, new display, and a new battery.

[@blankcheque6916]

its the 2017 version

[@shephrd]

Finally. Someone who owns and reviews Mac products that isn't afraid to tell the truth.

[@gdeeable]

He’s always a straight shooter. 🤜🏾🤛🏻

[@ManishSingh2k]

Watching this on a MBP 2011 with 16 GB RAM and 525 GB SSD. The old timer still rocks.

[@janvervloet96]

See this is why I’m sticking with my 13” 2012 MacBook Pro. I upgraded the internals once it ran out of warranty, only had to deal with battery swelling two times. I’m dreading the day I when I need to buy a new one.

[@msmit1999]

"Best build quality in any laptop" yet i can garantee you a lot of those issues are mistakes from manufacturing the laptop, meaning the build quality isn't quite that good, in fact it's the opposite.

[@romari2706]

Having bought over 24 Macs, I would say Macs generally last 10 years with few if any hardware issues. They just keep working. So yes, build quality is great.

[@edgarcmtz]

I’m so glad my 2017 MacBook Pro 15 in has no issues. This thing is perfect, super long battery, fast performance, keyboard works, no issues with popping or stickiness, nothing at all. I might have gotten like the gold standard of MacBooks. I feel sorry for anyone who paid for it and it sucked from the beginning.

[@alexman128]

It seems like a thing for apple that the first version of their hardware sucks, I bought the mid 2012 Retina display MacBook Pro and it had tons of issues, although none of them was a showstopper but together they made my experience with it very unpleasant, the issues were the ghosting problem, the trackpad started to feel really hard to click after a few months, the keyboard keys were like mushy( I recently bought an air and the keys feel a lot different so I realize now that it is an issue with the retina laptop) and the interface was very laggy, the animations were not smooth, even though it had an Nvidia 650m the retina resolution was too much to handle, they eventually mitigated the problem in posterior versions of Mac OS but after more than a year ... So it is a good advice not to get anything.from apple if it is the first version of something, because essentially you become a paying beta tester ....

[@Billy123bobzzz]

Its a thing for all manufacturers of all products, The rule is that the first version of anything you manufacture using new parts or new processes has glitches, its been that way since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, its not unique to Apple, its normal for everyone to have a small percentage of products suffer from a glitch or two.

[@MiiNaaJee-de-Simba]

Edgar Martinez bought it last week and touch bar started to freeze,, whole system freezes,, quick time video issues,, youtube/safari video issues.. battery life sucks .. approximately just 3 hours.. really had a bad experience.. i have to get my refund back and now waiting for my app care refund!! :( sad but real

[@psdaengr911]

Yes, the sixth time is the charm. All it took was people paying for 5 generations of product to finance the "developemnt" of a laptop computer with a good keyboard, screen and treackpad that doesn't have major issues within months of release. As you should have figured out from their logo, Apple bites.

[@VelocitronVoyager]

The first generation is always bad for all product's. Take the iPhone X for example. So many probs like oled burn it, battery issues, oled display lags and glitches and overall a lot of bugs.

[@MikeKollin]

These New MacBook Pro's suck. I know I have one. I am using my 2011 MacBook pro to type this because my 2017 MacBook Pro still doesn't work. They just sent it into The Houston Apple Repair Center. Just got it back and it literally doesn't work. This has been an ongoing event for a year now! Unbelievable... iMovie freezes. The camera doesn't work, the mouse freezes, video's freeze, pages get slow, etc. etc. They just put a New Logic Board on it this week. Doesn't work!!!

[@benjaminhoppe1733]

The Battery wasn't stacked because the MacBook Pro's don't have a wedge design like the 12" MacBook. Stacking Battery's in a MacBook Pro is unnecessary because the volume of the device allows for a more simple designed battery, thus making the assembly process easier as well. Stacking battery's for the 12" MacBook wasn't easy.

[@DwntW0rry]

are you an engineer by chance?

[@gilfoylejones7951]

Or maybe he just looked at the outer case. My 2017 is squared off at the edge vs tapered like on the MacBook. Hence it does not need a stacked battery.

[@xpx505]

My macbook pro retina 15 mid 2012 Screen coating was damaged , I took my macbook to service center yesterday and they replaced it with new screen free of cost. Actually they recalled it 2-3 year before. screen replacement is valid till 27th oct 2017. if you got some problem with ur retina screen take to service center soon.

[@LaloRacer1]

Very informative. I have experienced a couple of issues on my 2017 macbook pro. For example, I can hear something is loose moving freely inside of my machine, and also when charging, I feel electricity shocks, all around the mac. Hoping these two inconveniences will be enough for Apple to replace my machine. Keep it up bro!

[@Don-h4d]

Son, beside the fact we passed the 3.0 Ghz wall it's more than 15 years, in the real world you can't tell the difference between a last generation i5 and an older i7. A machine is about a balance of components. Often we get more benefits from a powerful GPU and super fast SSD rather than the raw power of the CPU itself.

[@TechKerala]

15-inch Retina Mid 2014 With GT-750 M 2.5GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.7GHz) with 6MB shared L3 cache Reaching Turbo boost more than 3.5 GHZ! Running on battery, and watching this video on a google chrome and running geekbench in the background! I think the mid 2014 and previous models from 2012 have no such issues.. I can't even think of buying new USB C only models any time soon!

[@code_red7744]

TechKErala I have a mid 2015 15” that I bought new in 2017 because I don’t need a bag of dongles and a keyboard that’s gonna have keys stop working when you need it most. I haven’t had any issues with it and I’m really not worried because I still have 30 months of Apple care left. I’m glad I didn’t get the newer gen...

[@ryanmilton2643]

Thank you. I feel better about my 2011 MBP! I was thinking I might "need" to upgrade, but you have given me pause. Your point about actually needing to get what you pay for is a great point. We expect these devices to last a long time, and be up to spec.

[@mclarenf1V12]

I have had mine sent in for repair twice. Keyboard sticking. Loose Touch ID. Battery issue. Now the keyboard is funky again and the speakers get all muffled on playback. I have been patient with Apple but my last call changed to yelling at them for a replacement. No such luck. They still want to keep repairing it. How can I get it replaced?

[@TallyHoTech]

You returned how may Macs and then say it has the best build quality?

[@worththewatch1517]

Mate, Macs suck at the prices they re selling it for ! Its all basically easy profit for apple

[@Bertie_Ahern]

Mac build quality is terrible nowadays, and very unenvironmentally friendly since you can't repair most major issues anymore. And yet they just won an award for 'greening' their supply chain lol!!

[@shmonyx]

@@Bertie_Ahern not really, mac laptops are still the best build quality wise. Not a fanboy, but i've tried a lot of laptops and macbook truly are better than the rest

[@Asencion]

@@shmonyx Tru

[@OVERFIEND]

My 2017 MBP 15" died recently after about 3 months. Luckily it was replaced immediately in an apple store, but that meant that I lost all the data on the computer. I have no idea what the cause of the issue was and apparently will never know, it could possibly be related to my first and only gaming session a couple of days prior. I've also encountered plenty of obscure software bugs, but they've been minor. Great video!

[@Low_pH]

Rami Ali 2

[@faritmutugullin]

Have they told you what was dead there? Or just replaced and that's all?

[@TheArmedNurse]

Macbooks aren't really meant for gaming so it could've been the gaming that killed your Macbook. While the newer Macbooks do have specs that can handle light gaming, anything heavier can cause trouble. How heavy was the games you were playing?

[@tamag9]

Geekbench isn't good to test thermal throttling - its designed to pause itself in between tests so the CPU clock falls back down. You should use something like Prime95 or Luxmark - those constantly load the CPU.

[@ciikumurimi]

How did your speaker break?

[@vince7735]

Interesting point about the 2016 "beta" MBP. What do you mean the speaker broke? How does a speaker break? How do I know if the MBP I'm buying is 2016 or 2017?

[@pranaywadhava3511]

I recently bought a MacBook Pro 2018 15” ! What are the things I should check for and how do I do it ?

[@Blue0A]

On the Macbook 12 inch 2016, when you launch the System Preferences and click on the option called Trackpad. Under the Point & Click tab there’s an option called Silent clicking. This is not for the Macbook pro 2017. That is my issue.

[@marcstorey]

Great video! My 13" MacBook Pro 2017 is 10 days old and so far very lucky not to encounter any issues. However, BATTERY life is a BIG disappointment!

[@NOHA1234]

I actually made a video about replacing the thermal paste in my 2015 MacBook Pro which allowed it to basically always run at the turbo boosted frequency. Geekbench 4 doesn't usually keep the processor running at full speed the entire time so that isn't the best way to measure thermal throttling.

[@acidtechno]

why it needs to be thinner each year i have no idea.. sacaficing the kb and colling makes no sence..

[@ahaulss93]

I have a Late 2016 15" MacBook Pro that is giving me issues as well. I bought it December 2016 and I've never been 100% satisfied with it. It feels sluggish, and It routinely crashes some applications such as "Preview", Word, and safari. This is frustrating because my 2013 iMac still runs much better than my 2016 MacBook Pro. I am wondering what you mentioned at the apple store in-order to get the 2017 version replacement? Or a different model in particular? Any advice would be appreciated, I am not very good at negotiating.

[@meg3646]

I purchased a MacBook Pro 13 inch early 2015 a issue and I haven’t had a single problem with it at all I really like it. But I’m thinking about upgrading to the new M1 chip and 16 gigs of RAM I think I could use this for a gaming machine. What do you think.

[@scylk]

Are you sure the 2017 mbp still doesn't use stacked batteries ? Will the 2018 use them ? I couldn't find anything related on internet

[@MikeKollin]

What does it take for them to replace a computer??? I've had mine for just over a year and it still doesn't work. Just got it back from their Houston Repair center and it still won't work. I am actually using my old 2011 to post this!

[@kbokdia]

Hey even i have Macbook pro 2017 15” . I have issues with my keyboard.. keys get stuck sometimes meaning that there is no tactile feedback.. though apple has replaced my keyboard 2 times.. i still get weird keyboard issues...

[@kbokdia]

Pete i dont think this is a good idea

[@DanijelTurina973]

I'm so happy I got the 2015 15" model. No issues.

[@fwng69420]

The first point is on Intel, the second is definitely on Apple, the cooling on the MacBooks is wildly inadequate

[@mpharr2]

Would the June version of the MacBook Pro offer anything special. Stock Ram or special order with additional MacBook Pro?

[@MadelnMachines]

Are you finding it lasts longer when re-wicking even with coil killer juices? What's the difference? Also what was the ultrasonic tech you mentioned?

[@DimitrisPhd]

Hey bro , a quick question. I am thinking about a macbook pro 13'' 2018 for my everyday laptop and phd work. Do you think It can handle stuff? Also what about the battery life? Does it last 8+ hours? Please help me

[@nireshbehari8333]

Very informative video Daniel. You definitely deserve a lot more subscribers

[@inwedavid6919]

You forget one, the graphic card is connected on a 8X bus, not at 16X as any cheap PC, this has a small impact in games (-10% of power) and a quite important in GPU computing (what open CL does).

[@TheMercadian]

I got a 2017 15" Macbook Pro. Came with a keyboard problem (typing "n" would write "nn" or nothing at all). Brought it to the Apple Store and they replaced all the bottom part of the machine (including the battery) except the motherboard and the SSD. Came back with 2 minor scratches on the screen... Brought it back, they changed the top part of the machine. 2 weeks later, I discovered a problem with the multitouch on the track pad: I cannot click and use the multitouch when the click is on the upper part of the track pad. I really think I must be damned...

[@josemartin598]

Macbooks used to be the best. They use to be the only laptop you could buy that didnt turn into a brick in 3 or 4 years. But with the leaps in technology getting smaller smaller in the PC market. The lifespan of your aveage laptop is now 4-7. Doesnt mean people keep them that long tho

[@jean-michelaroyan]

I have the 15 inch 2016 macbook pro and i have the popping sound issue and the keyboard issue i really hate that ...

[@Robkoe]

Amazon seems to be your sponsor. But how neutral is your opinion about Amazon? I say this because I had a few issues with my MacBook Pro's 15" model 2015, stains on my screen dat wouldn't disappear(Staingate), and a randomly appearing crackling noise in my speakers, and the Apple store here in Amsterdam replaced my screen for the stains and motherboard without any problem! So I'm still satisfied about their service. You say that Amazon gives a better service, but how can I expect that what you're saying is objective? Please let me know, I'm curious!

[@ACommere]

waited to buy the Macbook pro 2016 since i heared the 2017 version was coming and since i had it i havnt got any troubles with it. Keyboard is a bit weird at first but if you use it dayly you get used to it. speakers and internals are as they should be. Only little thing that does not work well is when i want to send a message and ad a emoticon via the touchbar that they not always appear. and in my messages some emoticons are black if some one sends them to me. but thats not a big deal. I'm very happy with the MBP 2017 but for that price i think it should be ;) Great video man!

[@nethook5588]

I have the 12inch macbook and it's really good.. I wish it had the touch bar with Touch ID

[@webbryan1]

For all the things you have said I am still amazed you keep buying those.

[@Low_pH]

ryan webb because Apple users are hypocritical

[@michelandre4325]

Keep up your good reviews, I always find them very relevant.

[@dylancheung4491]

Thanks for the vedio. Just wondering if the improvement the 15 inch gets apply to the 13 inch as well? Thanks in advance.

[@Breathexandxletxgo]

The way you pronounce "MacBook" makes me want a MacBook.

[@OlehKor]

Best video I've ever seen with 2016 vs 2017! Thanks a lot!

[@benthemoviemaker]

I face graphic issues with my 2017 kaby lake macbook pro (560 Radeon Pro, i7-7820hq, 512gb SSD, 16gb LPDDR3 Ram) Whenever i use the laptop from hibernate, it won't switch to the Radeon graphics, it just stuck at the on board intel-graphics which is a pain if i want to use some graphical demanding tasks. I will first have to reboot my mac before i can use the Radeon Graphics, and then still i see a lot of graphical glitches in the OS like red/black screens and other strange things. I am now trying to refund it since the logic board has been replaced, but that didn't fixed any of the problems. I dont own this laptop 6 months yet and where i live (in the Netherlands) you are really good protected by the law with a purchase

[@bobeid1]

any encryption slows down the hdd speeds, regardless the OS.

[@AleksandrPapeko]

I had a Macbook Pro mid 2012 Retina. Unfortunately the GPU failed. I do not like the new keyboard. I'm thinking just to get a gaming laptop instead of the Macbook Pro 15".

[@martagoncalves4291]

Hi im tinking buying a macbook pro , its more to personal use and youtube editing but i herd that next year apple its lauching a new macbook pro, do you think i schould wait and buy the new model??? or buy know and witch model schould i buy?? Tanks for the Help

[@dzemoski45]

Good job buddy, your channel is getting better and better. You deserve more subscribers.

[@youngalwyn1124]

Why so many downvotes on this video?

[@simplyjesse]

Yes your right ... just bought a new 2017 13 in macbook pro..for a month now... i have notice the colored spinning wheel twice... is this ok?

[@dengpan8086]

Jesse Bermejo it happens sometime, not a big issue, its just a sign of no responding

[@Billy123bobzzz]

Actually this is normal. The spinning wheel is an indicator to tell you that the system is heavily loaded. This happened to all computers regardless of brand or OS. If to happens a lot then you have installed software that is using too much CPU and it should be removed so you have smooth performance.

[@unix.geektarektalaat1631]

I know this video was from last year, but I just watched it now. I had the popping issue with my 2016 15 model and I went to apple store and they actually replaced my entire screen with a new one. After that the popping sound gone. Btw the popping sound it will only happen if you use intensive task to heat up the laptop and then leave it to cool down, at that time only if you touch the laptop it will pop.

[@concubinage]

Should I upgrade my 2016 MacBook Pro to 2017, I never had any of your problems on mine.

[@Billy123bobzzz]

No, don't upgrade it. Intel is very poor at increasing its CPU performance from year to year so you will not notice any difference in performance at all. Your MacBook Pro is good for many years of useful service.

[@abhijithragav8929]

Great video man! Way to go.

[@zacv1288]

Good video, was the CPU therm throttling an issue on competitor laptops or isolated to Apple?

[@Billy123bobzzz]

All computers, desktop or mobile, that use Intel CPUs are subject to thermal throttling, its the Intel CPU that has the heat limitation, it has nothing to do with macOS.

[@TheTutt1]

I am having my macbook pro 2016 just 2 months and its having the poping sound, they offered just repair... is it even worth it?

[@Florens.]

My 2017 15“ BMPs batterie died just 2 days after I got it. At first they wanted to repair it, but then they did send me a new one. I ended up sending the new one back to get my cash back, as I was disappointed by the poor durability.

[@ThinkCleverAndSmart]

The popping noise is even on my late 2013 MBP, but I have started to live with it. I mean, it doesn't effect what the computer can do. :)

[@renepouliot6616]

What is the software you use o test the intel speed, I want to compare my water coolers I7 pc and my IMac I7

[@aquaclean]

I am going to buy a mac pro 13 customized. How do I know that the computer they are giving me is brand new and not refurbish. Can somebody help with this question.

[@user-bb3to3ky5o]

No body is talking about MacBook pro freezing problem. This issue happens consistently and I'm looking to buy one. I wonder if this issue got fixed in newer models.

[@wtf-ci8tv]

I'll stick to the older MacBooks with the bugs already worked out. Watching on a 2012 MacBook Air 11". No complaints running Mac OS High Sierra. No keyboard issues, decent battery life, and in excellent condition. Only complaint is I wish the RAM was upgradable.

[@ccoddington]

No turbo-boosting in Bootcamp either. You can get around it, but its a hassle. You also can't EGPU Nvidia cards in High-Sierra (but you can in Bootcamp).

[@petiot11]

at last a useful review and valuable insights ... thanks

[@jeffkoe310]

It took me a while to figure out you were saying, “butterfly” lol. Thanks great information.

[@nirbhayaher8132]

I have a 2016 MacBook Pro and I also have the keyboard problem for 4-5 keys will apple replace it or repair it ?

[@Billy123bobzzz]

Yes

[@1982sketcher]

Curious- can you reach the max bench marks on a mbp with an external cooling system such as the fan/heatsink platforms?

[@seanzappulla71]

I haven't had any problems with the matchbook pro keyboard with the Australian keyboard.

[@whateverreviews3965]

I wish you could compare other laptops turbo boost speeds too so we would know if that is only with apple products.

[@theslavikmik]

Nice video I enjoyed just want to let you guys know I am still using a 2009 MacBook Pro with the two internal SSD eight gig ram and that is the perfect device for me have been upgraded since then and not planning to upgrade they need time soon

[@davidjohn0505]

Very good and interesting video. Do you think it would be better to buy a MacBook Pro from Amazon as you say Amazon customer Service policy is much better? I am thinking of buying a MacBook Pro but should I wait and buy a 2018 model or buy an older 2015 model? Thanks again for bringing these issues to my attention.

[@Billy123bobzzz]

If you are the kind of person that has bad luck, like the guy that posted this video, then you should definitely buy to from Amazon if you think that Amazon has a better return policy.

[@davidjohn0505]

Billy Bob sorry what does “bead luck” mean?

[@saltylikesalineicurn]

Harry K it means there was a typo but hahaha good one... **wink** **finger guns pointed at you**

[@brucemacallan6831]

Thank you for these videos!

[@christopherfortineux6937]

The cores take turns boosting based upon which one is scheduled at that moment. This rapidly changes. The issues with these laptops and ones like it is the fact these chips with thermal throttle almost immediately.

[@feta_cheesecake]

Thankfuly my 2016 13” MBP has none of these issues, the TouchBar did freeze on me once, but nothing much worse than that.

[@qba1361]

about thermal throttling what you think? is it worth to buy 3,1 version? MBP15?

[@Billy123bobzzz]

Thermal throttling happens with all modern Intel CPUS, that is an Intel characteristic and is not controlled by Apple, don't worry about it. The MacBook Pro 3,1 is a nice model and will work, but the newer the model you get, the better it will perform.

[@alwaysdrunk5461]

I never had any of these issues with my mbp 15 2016. The battery life is also good. I don‘t use it that much anyway, because I have an iPad for media consumption etc. I only use my mbp for fcpx and logic pro and word

[@orkunsatana606]

I have a MacBook Pro 2014 13' 2,6 GHz. Im happy

[@JONYghost]

When you speak about issues specifying which models is mandatory

[@ManOnTheMoon2131]

How about you cite some of your sources. Thanks.

[@Psychoh90]

Obv the 2018 upgrade will have coffe lake, hopefully new cooling system, and new battery design. At least, I really hope it

[@Billy123bobzzz]

It will have whatever Intel can deliver in quantity to Apple. Coffee Lake is promised to be produced on a smaller process so it should run cooler and faster but in order to try to stay ahead of AMD, Intel will probably add a lot of transistors and bump the clock rate up so it will then use more battery power and run hotter. Hopefully Apple will be able to select a part number that still runs a little faster while running cooler in a MacBook enclosure. One can only hope.

[@DManzaluni]

Am just getting a new 2016 . 2.6GHz but it only has a 256 gb SSD. Is there any reason why there are some of these around, - new, and apparently no 512gb ones?

[@WhittyPics]

I wish they would put the mag safe power port back

[@ricktobin8297]

Still loving my mid 2015 15”

[@joanvandestreek9167]

me too no major issues yet hopefully won't happen. won't ever go back to windows

[@rathkhan1114]

Good Informative video. Keep up the good work.

[@savannah7766]

I have a 2016 MacBook Pro and I have no problems so maybe it's just different for some

[@tdrewman]

2018 a Class action lawsuit is starting to form over that keyboard issue.

[@luca24hr]

Had my mid 2012 MacBook not had a single issue I couldn't fix, so far

[@Notinuse664]

Had no problems with my Macbook pro 13 with touch bar

[@eduardoig17]

what is your enter/return key so weird?

[@007Karutube]

Hello, I'm not sure if it is a right forum to ask you this. I'm an Architect and planning to buy a laptop, My day to day activities is to work on CADD and 3D rendering etc. Can you advise a laptop for me ? Apple or any.

[@ageetey]

Very informative video. thanks!!! This is perhaps my first time on your channel but now I look forward to more of your work.

[@adithyanow]

I use a 2016 Mbp and i have lot of issues with the keyboard...i thought its just the problem with my mac .Thanks for the video!

[@aeblelagret]

human being I too had problems with some keys which didn’t work, so I had the entire keyboard replaced.

[@adithyanow]

for me its usually caps lock and right shift key giving trouble

[@theAriesHB]

Great and thanks for your good analysis

[@mrrobbot5958]

Wow,AMAZING video, top notch quality

[@RemyDG0]

for my 15" mbp 2016 the battery doesn't lives more than the battery of my 2011 13" mbp to fix it I always take the power adapter with me

[@divinium33]

im running a macbook pro 2017 im still having issues with a sticky keyboard but its very minor and usually happens when it over heats. (fun-fact the thermal lube for the processor is poorly done that probably y a lot of u guys have ur cpu throttling and ur fans r really loud and u experience overheating)

[@matheaumichalak7537]

2015 MacBook Pro 13” model still represents best bang for your buck, in my opinion.

[@Marine_0317]

I agree! I have one and it still looks like the day it came out of the box. and it works great. I also purchased a macbook pro 2017 with Touch Bar and i had to take it back to the apple store for keyboard issues, fan issue and battery only lasts 4 hours. Wtf?