Zoom-Meeting with Andreas Müller, Dec. 6th '23 (1pm)

Zoom-Meeting with Andreas Müller on Dec. 6th 2023 (1pm),
Andreas speaks and answers questions about non-duality & liberation,
Info: thetimelesswonder.com/?lang=en
Patreon: / thetimelesswonder

[@juliakrokes5624]

What a lovely room view background !

[@IanGoss-en3rl]

I wondered ages if it's real. Can't tell.

[@Saharadevi]

Love "there's NO answer to any question" to William!

[@andrewforrest108]

❤☺lovely, clear, simple, thank you Andreas🌿

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!

[@carolelepine5926]

So so wonderful 🧡

[@ckelley623]

I watch for the giggling Thank you Andreas❤

[@KARIS1961]

The William show.

[@Michaelgallant171]

Here’s thebest

[@laisa.]

Apparently

[@mementomori5374]

HAHAHHAAH yeah 😂 william is so needy

[@j0oi88]

Id like to talk to him

[@dawid_dahl]

*has QA session* “Nothing can be worked out. There is no answer to any question.” 😂

[@youwillbeloved8069]

It's not a qa session though

[@santim2341]

William keeps it real... 😂

[@AwareZen]

This is awesome! ❤😂

[@WallySoto-yi8fz]

William is the epitome of a person making its prison more comfortable.

[@Vyeri_Cmdr_31782]

… trying to make it more comfortable 😉

[@Koort1008]

That is perfect, whole, and complete. For what he really is, it makes no difference.

[@IanGoss-en3rl]

I fail at even that😢😊

[@Koort1008]

That’s it! Failure.

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!

[@yoso585]

19:20 to 20:20 is the greatest summary of it all that I’ve ever heard. What a blast!

[@IanGoss-en3rl]

Yep. ❤😊😊

[@Koort1008]

Love the honesty.

[@richardbelisle4807]

There is a young lady who for a few years spoke this way …but now is teaching awareness of awareness…

[@peterkoster5057]

What is her name ?

[@mikekonig]

perfect

[@WallySoto-yi8fz]

William definitely wants a Super Duper Narcissistic ME, (Mechanical Energy), for Christmas 🎄!

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!

[@RTH1122]

Being new to this message, it sounds insane. Not to pass judgement, but it seems to be a massive shift in 'understanding' and not something that just 'clicks' in to place (certainly not for me). It's understandable that people 'grapple' with this message. I feel William's difficulties in understanding this. It's understandable... and there in lies the problem. It's not understandable!

[@rafaelafonso312]

❤

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!

[@hadardhumezbiagi1342]

Hi, the one that wants to end the seeking is the illusion itself, the seeker and the seeking is an illusion of being someone, right?

[@Vyeri_Cmdr_31782]

Yes, more than that, the seeker and the seeking IS the One who is the Illusion. This Presence „now here“ is an object, it is not you. And you are all and nothing both but not knowing itself.

[@ccr7712]

Only illusion is the sense of self/ the seeker. Seeking is something that happens, that’s part of the appearance. The presence, is the sense of self.

[@yoso585]

The easy part is that there is nothing to get.

[@ccr7712]

There is nothing to get, but there may be getting/ understanding happening regardless.

[@yoso585]

@@ccr7712. But not really

[@ccr7712]

@@yoso585 if everything is just an appearance/ not real, then the word real or unreal is irrelevant.

[@chubchub5000]

I got it

[@Koort1008]

@@ccr7712NO. To whom would getting and understanding appear? There is no getting, understanding, or happening. Those things are not necessary to be that what you are.

[@chubchub5000]

"there is no answer to any question" ...and the world went silent. That's going to eat away at me for a while

[@KARIS1961]

If there ever was a me. ❤️😃

[@chubchub5000]

@@KARIS1961 Me wonders that, too 🙂

[@Denco-1952]

So there is not any reincarnation for any person..?

[@richardbelisle4807]

The me would love nothing more than for it to be the one that discovers the end of its self so it can get the benefits …of said discovery Wheels on the bus go round and round…

[@EPE77]

Andreas, il cervello ha un ruolo quindi? Il “collasso” si dice sia un cambiamento energetico in un cervello programmato all’autocoscienza (a differenza delle forme animali), quindi perdere questo senso di separazione può avere correlazione con un cambiamento nella programmazione cerebrale?🙄😊

[@ccr7712]

There is always the possibility, that it can happen due to constant repetition of this / brainwashing .

[@jimrich4192]

"When there is a PERSON." I.E.= A PRISON!?!? Lol...😂

[@ccr7712]

Andreas said that this can’t be understood ( yes, because there is no one to understand it), but there can be understanding regarding this, on its own without anyone, same like there is understanding regarding anything else . Saying it’s whole and complete, there is no inside or outside, etc. is an understanding 🤷🏼‍♂️ The language used by the speakers seems to be sometimes purposely misleading . Yes, this can be understood / there can be an understanding regarding this, but the question is, if the understanding is correct, which unfortunately can’t be known.

[@Koort1008]

No. No. No. Where there is understanding, there is an understander. There can be no understanding of anything. Period. Language gets in the way, but really, so what? Understanding and not understanding are part of the appearance. "I do not even know that I do not know," might be a better way to express it.

[@ccr7712]

@@Koort1008 why would you say, that there can be no understanding of anything ? By your reply there is obviously understanding of what I wrote 🤷. Understanding happens without understander, sound happens without listener, appearance happens without seer.

[@Koort1008]

@@ccr7712 Says, who? Let me reply another way. I do not understand that I do not understand.

[@ccr7712]

@@Koort1008 it doesn’t have to be so complicated, you don’t have to speak in spiritual mumbo jumbo language. I think you may been listening to one of the “speakers confusers “ they seem to unintentionally, or maybe intentionally ( because they are not able to comprehend this them self) confuse their listeners. No offense intended to you my friend. You said, I do not understand that I do not understand > ok I get that, there is no you . But there is understanding on its own, ( which means exactly the same thing as I understand), don’t get fooled my friend, Good luck 🍀

[@Koort1008]

@@ccr7712 How could there be understanding for what you are? For the absolute there is no absolute .

[@IanGoss-en3rl]

Oooops

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!

[@Vyeri_Cmdr_31782]

I do not understand anything what william asks 😅 thats the „spiritual progress“, which does not exist obviously 😂

[@Saharadevi]

William seems to want to be recognized as being someone who has achieved or is aware of something. A never-ending mind...

[@Vyeri_Cmdr_31782]

@@Saharadevithe mind is running in circles again ;)

[@mikekonig]

"amazingly more people growing.." no its not

[@yoso585]

Who would know?

[@mikekonig]

just stick to actual appearences (skip abstractions)@@yoso585

[@PeterMastropasqua-rk7tp]

All Or Nothing At all Frank Sinatra 😊

[@karlskaret275]

I would love to say what i think about this but KZbin rules are i have to be respectful to people even though they are an illusion. So I'm just going to say namaste 🙏 which is disrespectful to no one 😉

[@nicbarth3838]

Oh yea I could see how it would rub you the wrong way it does with me too, I think when they say self is an illusion, they actually mean that the self exists but that it is unlike how you have perceived it, I think that people in these non-dual community's should stay clear of non-dual terms because Illusion is so loaded, just say that it is different from how it was previously understood, but then you would need to define understanding. My approach would be to use Philosophy terms for describing non-duality as that field vocabulary that describes our subjective experience in parts. I think that these interpretive vagueness is from having abandoned thousands of years old texts that had its own vocabulary that described the phenomenology of enlightenment. Now we have to use meaningful concepts and that were philosophy can hope to pick up the growing pains.

[@user-zb1yw5vs4c]

Another Baloney Canon dredging for coin.

[@jonmcpherson341]

Andreas the alcoholic! the alcoholic wonder!!