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My guest today needs absolutely no introduction - Deepak Chopra. If you’ve ever followed this work, my podcast here you would know I normally am not the type of person that would get excited by a rockstar or a top athlete but, when I meet one of my teachers I am so humbled in his presence, and I am so grateful for the opportunity. We met a couple of times. The first time was around the time I published my first book, I had no idea what I was doing. Deepak’s always been Deepak, and we spoke together on a panel in New York City, where obviously he knew a million times more than I did but, he was so kind and so generous. For every question that came to the panel, Deepak would look at me and say “I think Mo would answer this better.” No, I would not answer it better, but the confidence and kindness of his encouraging me to do what I was doing, is probably the reason I am here today speaking to you, and probably the reason you’ve heard of my work.
I have learned so much from Deepak that I honestly feel I spent a retreat with him because I followed all of his work, and I always found nuggets of wisdom that are summarized in such a precise and articulate way that it would blow me away. It’s such a joy because today is the second time I meet my teacher.
Deepak Chopra is a world-renowned speaker and author. He is the founder of The Chopra Foundation, a non-profit entity researching well-being and humanitarianism, and Chopra Global, a health company at the intersection of science and spirituality. He is also a Clinical Professor of Family Medicine and Public Health at the University of California, San Diego and serves as a senior scientist with Gallup Organization. Deepak has written over 90 books, including numerous New York Times bestsellers. Chopra has been at the forefront of the meditation revolution and his 93rd book, Living in the Light (Harmony Books) taps into the ancient Indian practice of Royal Yoga. TIME magazine has described Dr. Chopra as “one of their top 100 most influential people.”
Listen as we discuss:
- Figuring out our identity
- ‘I’ is a constant and infinite
- Artificial Intelligence, Digital Deepak and consciousness
- How awareness unites us
- There is no universe
- ‘Our life is a dream’
- Perplexity and entropy
- What is happening right now
- Space is awareness
- The Multiverse and The Singularity
- Sensations, Images, Feelings and Thoughts
- You are not the roles you play - You are the awareness
- Superintelligence
- Love is the ultimate truth
- The more you know, the less you know
- ‘God’s language is silence’
- Resist or Flow
Connect with Deepak Chopra on Instagram @deepakchopra and on Twitter @DeepakChopra. Find out more about his work here: www.deepakchopra.com/about/
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[@SW.stefaniasilkarts1906]

Deepak is such a profound noble philosophical soul, I vote for him to receive a Nobel prize too. I learn to breathe and enjoy my chilling time a little deeper as from now on. Stillness is so valuable. Thank you both for this once again insightful interview.

[@shelleyrozier6375]

For me, I leaned in when Mo led with “because we believe we are the avatar not the dreamer”. When Deepak said “you’re a non local being having a local experience and the locality is based on false identity”, I had the same reaction as Mo… 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@erzsebethyoung]

@shelley ...a couple of decades ago it was revealed on a discussion forum saying Deepak Chopra was a member of the Club of Rome.

[@raveendrantk4248]

What a mind blowing discussion, wish to spend the whole life listening and understanding. Great salute !

[@user-ji1vf7mg5b]

I found you on the “Diary of a CEO” podcast where I cried for Ali and your loss. So I searched you up. You are a truly amazing human being changing the lives of your listeners.

[@theugandanvillagewife6647]

Same here, i have watched the DOA CEO podcast that featured MO like 4 times. I just cant get enough of that podcast 😊

[@mariaevo10000]

Same Same ❤

[@williamcarolan5139]

Me too. I watched the one on A.I and the other Happiness

[@lekhethodelvismahase3001]

Me too

[@jennypalmer8645]

Same ❤️

[@carolynclark819]

Just Wonderful! Thank you for having Deepak; he is a flowing river of wisdom.

[@MofoWeedian]

Deepak is truly an amazing Guru we should be proud to have.

[@joanhalgren3502]

Ah, we are not separate from him!

[@anissapicard8682]

This is an incredibly awesome interview!!! Ultimate truth is found in silence.

[@ibrahimsagnaOfficial]

So grateful that the two of you exist and continue to constantly do your bit to help unpack the great mystery of life. You bring the right amount of light with the appropriate dosage to avoid blinding us while you enlighten us. That’s the magic “truth” in this world of magic lies. The best lines in this show are too many, but … “Resist or Flow” will remain high on the list.

[@carolspencer6915]

Zero expectation Zero disappointment Me thinks.... I pray tomorrow is more unpredictable too. 💜

[@shelleyrozier6375]

Already listened 3x, now going to get my notebook! 😂

[@sajisnair9354]

❤❤😂😊

[@RajinderSingh-mj6xc]

Wonderful words. ❤😅😊

[@delasobissex4915]

So infinitely profound! Forever grateful for this healing conversation about the absolute truth. I was completely dissolved in the oneness while listening.

[@mossesterterian635]

Love and Gratitude for LIGHT🙏

[@UncompressedWAVmusic]

10 our of 10, fantastic!!! Super amazing, profound, worthwhile, important, interesting and much more. I truly loved all of this podcast. Deepak is a true hero and wise man in my life, He wrote endless books filled with wisdom to help others.

[@boombot934]

Thank❤🌹🙏 you, Mo Gawdat and Deepak Chopra for this beautiful experience😊😊😊

[@jasonjestin]

Yes!!! The necessary paradigm shift that can save humanity from its deeply flawed trajectory is that - self awareness.

[@CarldeFigueiredo-lf2gc]

@jasonjestin: the consciousness revolution has happened and is gathering huge momentum and power. As you say, it is the only thing that will save us, by prompting the crucial paradigm shift in humanity's thinking.

[@joanhalgren3502]

@@CarldeFigueiredo-lf2gc Indeed, and if you vote in the U.S. the only candidate that gets the insight of self-awareness, love and consciousness is Marianne Williamson. #Willamson2024

[@joanhalgren3502]

So grateful that I stumbled across this fantastic podcast that I appreciate beyond words! What a difference there would be on this planet if everyone could grasp the spectacular wisdom and insights of both Chopra and Gawdat! I am so grateful and thank you! I shall listen to this podcast over and over until it totally impacts my soul--it's already starting! Blessing to you both for your spectacular enlightenment.

[@drewdrake4451]

Stillness is found in silence. We are all listening to our evolved brother Eckart Tolle. Stillness Speaks!

[@GillianLarmond]

Wow! Thanks Mo. I love you both!

[@buildingmentalmuscle]

❤ Love Deepak, he explains everything so eloquently! Need to listen to this many times to soak in all the wisdom. The "I" that he speaks of is the "I Am" in Biblical scripture. I Am the way. I Am the beginning and the end. I Am the Alpha and the Omega. I Am the door. I Am the light. I Am the good shepherd. I Am the resurrection etc. All these references refer to God being our own consciousness, our awareness of being. And in the Sanskrit phrase "Tat Tvam Asi" (I Am That). I Am that, you are that, all this is that, and that's all there is! 😀God bless you Deepak for sharing your wisdom with the world ❤

[@TheSuperTeacherStudent]

This is so cool because for the past 30 years I've always said that my life is so exciting because to me, it's like reading a book in that no matter how difficult or great my life is at any given time, I'm always looking forward to reading the next chapter!

[@joanhalgren3502]

I think you get it! 🙏

[@TheSuperTeacherStudent]

@@joanhalgren3502 🥰

[@jgarciajr82]

Our perception literally matters. Also some things are inherent.🙏🏼❤️

[@dorshira8473]

Thank you, mind blowing!

[@melissamcm24]

Mo, I found you by stumbling across a Steven Bartlett podcast and I was so touched by your story i continue to learn more and more everyday by watching and reading your content. I want to say when I learned of your experience you had with your son Ali, it broke my heart. But how you handled life and grief inspired me. You truly are a beautiful soul with a wonderful message. I cant get through my day without listening to a message from you. Thank you for being you and sharing your message with me! Mel

[@madelinesouza8585]

I am grateful and relieved to have discovered you Mo. and this exchange with Deepak has left me in tears! I can stop wanting to solve the mystery and learn to be happy! Thank you Ali, for guiding your father! Whatever, whyever, just fucking WOW!❤

[@hbbtiwvr]

I can’t find words… Two of my favorite people together 😍😍👏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼🌹🪷

[@debbiehadfield9124]

Thank you for sharing Siman you have such a calming voice , I have followed you both for 3 years and learnt so much from you both . It's been amazing watching you both grow on your journey , so much gratitude for you both and love you both ❤🙏❤

[@furahinitluway8543]

Flow and surrender to the mystery ❤, thank you both!

[@viamactress]

I enjoyed this conversation so much. So many insights ❤

[@VasanthGopalan]

Deep gratitude Mr Mo.

[@surajnarula1869]

Wow this meeting is awesome. I applaud!

[@scriverme]

This is pure gold!! Thank you both!!! I'm so grateful, you gave me peace Deepak. Love you ❤️

[@vitoferrero8425]

My like, is not for the algorithm. My like is for your heart Mo. Thanks for this wonderful moment!

[@rideflyer]

I love stuff like this. Realizing just how far into the wormhole you can go contemplating life makes me feel meaningless but also so alive at the same time. Being a part of the infinite vastness of space and time connected through the source in which we all experience awareness. Truly life-altering stuff!

[@smillailyas3974]

If you want life altering and meaningful, read the Quran.

[@ShirleyMcalpine]

Two of my favorite guys together! Mo, taught me how to share happiness to the outside world and Deepak, teaches me how to go even deeper to the inside of my world!❤

[@marojuvijayabhaskarachary4681]

Amazing interview with deeper spiritual quest and insights of reality !! Love and gratitude ❤🙏

[@allisonstomp2116]

Thank you both! ❤ what a beautiful conversation.

[@angalmeida29]

Omg ! What a conversation this is !!!! Infinitely grateful Mo And Deepak 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@1969kbl]

What a joy listening to you two! Gratitude to both.❤

[@angelicaskelly8507]

Humbly brilliant! ❤

[@alainmaitre2069]

No need to be humble , no need to be arrogant , just be a good lady or good gentleman , be fair , gentle kindly , unselfish , compassioned , helpfull , etcetera . Words from Jaggi Vasudev Sadhguru .

[@alainmaitre2069]

Being humble is dangerous for the selfconfidence .

[@GOINGCRAZYINTHEKITCHEN]

I am about inbetween you two amazing guys in age. A bit closer to Mo - Looking for awnsers like so many others. On my journey I now reached here. And I totally get it. The reason I watched this episode is because I saw Stephen´s episode with Mr Chopra and he expressed about after death: "dreaming on". That hooked me, because that is my belief or hope or idea or fantasy already. I have a horse since 22 years, the same horse, and I once experienced his way of sensing the "water snake". I heard it how he heard it. I had my hand on his back when this happened and it is a one-time-experience, but I was sure I got his perception for a nano second. So I get this with different speice´s perception. I also saw you Mo - in a wonderful conversation with Stephen. Very eye opening. Thank you! Greetings from Sweden 🥰

[@joanhalgren3502]

Woe. The horse story is amazing! I have a young dog and it's fascinating to realize what she knows and senses that I do not and I am grateful to see the difference in awareness from one species to another:).

[@unalaltay297]

An amazing conversation which challenges much of what we have been taught.. our values and beliefs.... Thanks Deepak and Mo.

[@carolnewlands8630]

Amazing.......I stopped seeing a person who I shared an incredible "physical"connection with because he always had to be doing something or had to have,as he called it< background noise on all the time..News,sports,music..my mind just could not take it..I was anxious etc..on my own I live in silence when I can..mediation etc..because after a lifetime of working in NYC and kids and an ex and all that stuff us boomers though was living..was anything but..we were prisoners of "things"..so thank you...15 years ago I left everything to learn..I still am...thank you again..xo

[@joanhalgren3502]

Great knowing you are living your real journey here!

[@neesaljohnson86]

Deeply profound experience

[@hlsgkts9487]

Mo it was so great having him with you and it was mind blowing again thnx for this

[@Diana-jx1ju]

Thankyou again, Deepak Chopra! I now, after eight years, eat my meals slowly, savoring every bite, sometimes losing thought altogether with no sense of loneliness. It comes and goes. I do some yoga, not enough, but am improving. I am so grateful to myself for taking that trip to Carlsbad even though I never got to meet you. That was not the point anyway. I so appreciate your immense contribution to our suffering world. I think it helps😂.

[@quantumhealingtools]

Nice to hear someone with a scientific background in such agreement with someone like Rupert Spira who approaches from the spiritual/experiential point of view.🎉

[@nicolesavioz6601]

Quote Deepak Chopra: We have sacrificed our Self for Selfies. Love it.

[@veronicatesta5295]

Our life is made up of Magical Lies! AMAZING! Thank you for this beatiful and mind blowing conversation.

[@philipseballos8892]

It's a lie when you live life pretending.Knowing lifes' essence by HAVING Christ in our lives answers our being including our sanity.Try Him!

[@joanhalgren3502]

@@philipseballos8892 You, like Christ, play a role in the world. The only thing we need to know is that we are spiritual beings having a human experience within a vessel. And it's all unpredictable that makes it joyful if one can change their perception of reality.

[@anissapicard8682]

This seems to be more of a discussion between two points of light, rather than humans :)

[@mclenowski]

Thank you both for your teachings. I have a different view of the universe after this.

[@allisoncassidy1929]

That's amazing!! not many people hearing this for the first time can embody the implications that fast - so great that you can! Give yourself credit for that please. Don't stop here - wishing you the very best.

[@user-kc8xg7ug1o]

Thank you very much for this dialogue with the Master. I have found answers to my questions.

[@Erinnerungslager]

I never though I would share this so publicly. But I do have some thoughts about this, so here we go... (I penned down these words a few days ago, in the stillness of the night. It was an impromptu reflection, without giving it much thought.) At times, I find myself immersed in profound contemplations about the universe and the intricate tapestry of existence surrounding us. To some, understanding these intricacies is akin to decoding mathematical formulas. Though I may not be mathematically inclined, over the years, I've often stumbled upon insights that, to my astonishment, mirror age-old philosophical ideologies or religious beliefs. It's as if I'm tapping into a fundamental truth that has always existed. What is the essence of life? Who are we, and why do we exist? It's about the collective "we", not just the individual "I". Recently, another such revelation came to me, one I've not encountered elsewhere in such depth. Imagine our existence on this planet as a series of rebirths, transitioning not just among human lives but perhaps even as animals. Our consciousness evolves with each life. Picture the human mind as a radio, tuning into a chosen frequency. Each life is a unique melody, and while a song may conclude, the broadcast continues. This music, this experience of life, is shared, not just by me, but by countless others. It's as if we undergo multiple lives concurrently. Does time even have a say in this? Perhaps I could be reborn in the past. To what end? To learn, to gather experiences. For whose benefit? Ours. It's possible that we're fragments of a larger existence, a consciousness accumulating experiences through the myriad lives on Earth. Every entity has a purpose and value. I remain hopeful that there exists a cosmic balance, discerning right from wrong. I believe we all contribute to the enlightenment of this grand entity. I visualize this overarching consciousness as a sphere, reminiscent of the sun, yet tranquil, not fiery or rigid - like a vast, ethereal bubble, a "Bubble Intelligence", if you will. What if ours isn't the only such consciousness in the universe? Observations of extraterrestrial beings might hint at entities hailing from another Bubble Intelligence, perhaps more advanced, more self-aware. This might explain their reluctance to contact us, wishing not to hinder our own growth or offering assistance that overshadows our learnings. They might be subtly guiding us, their presence barely noticeable. But why this relentless pursuit of knowledge? Why experience numerous lives? Every insect, plant, and human might be integral to this Bubble Intelligence, striving to amass experiences. Some claim to dream of the future. Could they have already lived it, or seen it from a different viewpoint? And who's to say the scope of this Bubble Intelligence isn't even grander? Beyond just the lives on our planet - past, present, or future - it might span parallel universes, exploring every potential outcome and eventuality. Why such musings? I've always perceived myself as quite creative. Yet, who knows? Perhaps there's more to it, and there's a grain of truth in these ponderings. Well, maybe not the part about the aliens. They're probably just another facet of us. ;-) Lately, I've experienced numerous synchronicities, always giving me the reassuring sensation of being on the right path. Watching this video invoked a similar sentiment, prompting me to share my thoughts here. Typically, I wouldn't voice such reflections openly. Just to clarify, I don't ardently champion my thoughts; I merely find them intriguing and notice many parallels with the ideas of Mr. Deepak Chopra. Thank you for reading ✌

[@joanhalgren3502]

Your are quite creative because you are part of the nonlocal consciousness that pervades the universe.

[@allisoncassidy1929]

May divine grace be showered upon you both infinitely - die on the mat before you leave the body. "God's language is silence, everything else is poor translation" Rumi I was So blessed to have been gifted the Bhakti path from my early twenties and to hear this conversation outside the meditation path community on a social media platform has had my body just 'leak tears'. I look forward to these teachings growing exponentially. THANK YOU Mo for doing this!!

[@JonathanLoganPDX]

I am at the gym working out on the treadmill and I am weeping at the beauty and depth of this conversation, this teaching, this transmission. Thank you both. ❤❤❤

[@joanhalgren3502]

Wow, amazing you could grasp the conversation while working out! ???

[@Farid-Abbasi]

I have read Deepak 's books and have always been impressed by his clarity of thoughts and very articulate narrative style. Very precise and to the point, which blends science and spirituality so amazingly. He is very clear about his concepts and choice of words. He is naturally very gifted soul. Very grateful for his contribution and May he keep shining with good health and joy of life! Great host as well. Listening to him for the first time . Very well conducted show ! Keep it up ❤

[@kapustaaa]

Deepak Chopra... what a humble man. Truly a Master. Will listen again!

[@jokamath8444]

Wonderful. Thank you. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@CarldeFigueiredo-lf2gc]

Absolutely brilliant and thought-provoking! I'll be watching this few more times to discover even more gems of wisdom contained in this fascinating discussion. Deepest heartfelt thanks!

[@sssonegra]

Beautiful thank you 🙏 ❤

[@Appleloucious]

One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀️☀️☀️ 💚💛❤️ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

[@ibolyamolnar3211]

Lot of wisdom to absorb. Thank you. Wish Deepak would have a comfortable armchair during this.

[@jenna7060]

wonderful conversation. thank you Moe and Deepak

[@duriajacobs5852]

My altime favorite . A beautiful conversation ❤️. Mo, thank you for all that you do and for your open mind. It's refreshing. ❤️

[@poonamdag]

Brilliant.... Profound... SURRENDER.... PLAY... THANNNKU,🦋✨🪷☺️🪂

[@globalwellbeing1984]

Muscling in from a Christian perspective, we (a small group in England) see ourselves each as a child of God. Our aim is to transform by degrees into the likeness of Christ by the renewing of our mind. We have a good time in the process. We study the scriptures and try to apply them to our lives. Prior to becoming a Christian I did a tour of various religions meeting Deepak several decades ago. I am not conventional in my beliefs and sometimes perplex my students with my scientific and Cosmopolitan perspective. We are all a spark of Universal consciousness, God for me. Love and blessings to you both as you wrestle with the big questions xx

[@barbarastange3842]

I totally agree with your impressions about how it is like to listen to Deepak's replies, so much comprehensive information in few words. Also, I do feel the loving peace and quiet embracing myself while "I join" him, especially more recently. I really would like to meet Chopra in person. Thank you all for this talk! ❤

[@joanhalgren3502]

I have met Chopra once in person and he autographed a book for me. He is exactly as he comes across in this podcast and always humble!

[@rgrantconacher5300]

Thank you for sharing

[@sylvier333]

Gratitude ❤️🌻

[@suzanaayana7465]

❤Profound Love. Thankyou. Such a blessing. Deepest gratitude. How easy it is to forget, but the joy is in remembering .. what a funny game this spec of life. And so true.. how can we not be amazed that we exist at all. We know nothing yet here we are, held in the all knowing and slowly remembering that we are that ❤

[@claudedupont7432]

Life bless Deepak

[@dr.satishsharma1362]

Excellent... thanks.

[@greggikane9066]

Gday Both Deepak and Tony Nader are amazing minds Why don’t you invite both of them onto your show and get them to discuss,chat ,talk and create an event in the stars 🎉 The both have mastered the Greatest tradition This will be a cosmic event

[@BhaktiRinzler]

THANK YOU! What a gift to experience this Brilliance. YES! I love you both so much I am bursting with joy!

[@carolspencer6915]

Good afternoon Deepak and Mo I again thank you both for your truly reassuring sensemaking. Been delightfully discombobulated by all of this for a sustained period of TIME. Without the wee bitz of sensemaking, untill very recently. In my forty nine years of 'Eperience' so far.. whatever this is, it most definitely is mine.!😀 Over about two years now my entire world view has shifted lanes. Thanks to you and many others here. So very Grateful. For many beautiful realisations, of late. Thankyou. 💜

[@globalwellbeing1984]

I have played roles in dramas as a kid and as grown up. Decades passed and I really adopted some of the roles I played on stage. Not big on video games but love stories. Archetypal characters and stories they can give kids great ideas. I was given some lessons on technology as part of a business course and I could fill a page with therapeutic possibilities for the tech now available. Not sure what else it could be useful for, yet these two heroes of our time have got some good ideas.

[@jackiedykins4412]

Dear Deepak Chopra ..how lovely you are ...thank you. X. 🎆☮️🎇🌺

[@RajinderSingh-mj6xc]

Cosmic connection's. Silence. Joyous journey. ❤🎉😊

[@zenildedecarvalho1218]

Besta summary ever about US ❤

[@dra.johannaleon2180]

HE IS THE REAL DEEPAK

[@Jonnacash1133]

Thank you mo

[@ninighebre3601]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@malkoabdi]

Wow this is they best show ever I live in country were people dont care about things now l know why now thanks so much We all born they same wow

[@soggycardboardbox]

Great episode! I just looked you up after your latest conversation with Steve Bartlett and was surprised that you didn't have much science and tech content! I've subscribed and will be sticking around because I also like spiritual stuff. If I can offer a little unsolicited advice, I think you might be able to leverage your tech cred to swing some people who are interested in AI over to ethics and philosophy content. I really hope your channel gets popular. You have such an amazing, wholesome message and I wish to someday live a life like yours and throw myself into leaving the world a little better than I found it.

[@allisoncassidy1929]

Such a beautiful message Woody! I don't see any reason why you can't get to your 'soul's goal' on this one! Blessed be!

[@maheshseshadri490]

As always Mr Deepak at his best on Consiouness. 👌🙏🙏

[@Aryana_NL]

Love you Mo ❤

[@sushilkumarkalia8605]

Thank you so much, sir 🙏

[@HugoFlores-nb9wv]

Thank you so much.ay God bless you always. Greetings from Guadalajara Jalisco México

[@sammanning1665]

Resist or flow ! Wow !

[@mahvash2811]

Thanks for uploading this beautiful conversation .it was enough to tell the world how the unity ❤of the source could helpe us to become enlightenment and end of the show every things comes from the source

[@irinakushnir8338]

I was so happy to see Deepak here!

[@laika5757]

A fantastic Human Being..🌹

[@AM_9924]

Amazing interview! Deepak is incredible.

[@anickdownunder]

Thank you so much for this podcast, i got so much out of it. Thank you 🙏🪷🦋

[@globalwellbeing1984]

Resistance causes suffering, go for flow, Mo.

[@kellysueduncan]

Loved this. I'm sure I will be thinking about " where does color happen" for a while now. ( would like to know more about Digital Deepak.) 😊

[@sarjuparmar6699]

❤

[@anima-mundi111]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@RajinderSingh-mj6xc]

Thanks. Shukriya. Meharbaani. Blessed. Blessings to everyone. 😊❤🎉😅😊

[@HuyenTran-xk2ep]

Wow

[@shiannful]

Aw I absolutely loved this conversation,, I can’t tell you watching you Mo taking in this oh so wise man’s words 🤗 I’m trying to take in his words too , trying… is all this real or not ? Suppose it just comes down to taking each day as they come whilst waiting for plans to manifest, god knows, gods plans , who knows…