I tried zooming with my feet on a cliff and almost won the Darwin Award.
@jeepjoseph90364 жыл бұрын
I've tried to zoom in with my feet on wildlife and it doesnt work so well
@johnrussell57154 жыл бұрын
Who's zoomin' who?
@frankelbefotografie4 жыл бұрын
Made my day 😂👍
@thetrojanhorse.13204 жыл бұрын
untouchable360x hahaha
@IsaacNYC2124 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅
@EdgarHernandez-xj5mx4 жыл бұрын
I think when you spend that much on a zoom lens, the quality between that and an expensive prime isn’t that crazy. But the quality between a cheaper zoom and a cheaper prime are pretty significant. You guys have the best Sony lenses. Not to mention the 24-70 2.8 which is amazing in quality and bokeh does pretty well against the 85mm 1.4. But the 24-70 f4 vs the Sony 85 1.8 are way different just as an example.
@longliveclassicmusic4 жыл бұрын
Extremely critical point, and it goes back to engineering. The f/4 options on focal ranges that are generally f/2.8 max aperture are way under-engineered. I'd put my 24-105mm f/4, on the other hand, up against any other lens any day…because f/4 is the maximum aperture for that extremely critical focal range. The engineering is much more solid and developed. That's why even if you don't need 2.8 on a 70-200, it's still better to get 2.8 instead of 4, because the f/4 is just not designed with the same research and development hours as a flagship 2.8.
@Jones12ax74 жыл бұрын
Kit lens x prime 50mm on APSC makes huge difference.
@DanielGross4 жыл бұрын
This is spot on, and even more so, most people can’t afford to spend over 2 grand on a lens. A good not amazing 50 & 85 is more than half the cost of a 2.8 zoom, and you definitely get much much much more than half of the quality. I don’t shoot Sony, but I’d get their 85 mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.8 and use the near 1500 on a ton of other photo gear. The size and price alone is enough for most people with normal sized pockets.
@tfm29344 жыл бұрын
@@DanielGross Agreed. And here, e.g. the 55/1.8 is 30% the price of a 70-200/2.8. For people with smaller pockets, primes are the first way to access premium ($2500) zoom quality at a fraction of the price, size and weight. Not to mention, it might be critical for not-so-professional / newer photographers to really get to know a fixed focal length, improving sense of composition, which is what bringing just 1 prime on a hike does, like nothing else.
@KarrGalaxyStudios4 жыл бұрын
I would think the only real advantage of high quality prime versus high quality zoom would be the weight now.. carrying a prime versus a zoom could make a difference but it depends on the zoom because some zooms are just so useful ranges like the sigma 18-35mm Art lens. I think you can benefit from a combination of high quality zooms and primes to fill your shooting needs and budget.
@GermanViking4 жыл бұрын
The truth about zooms and primes is: "I need all of them"
@reneenriquez31594 жыл бұрын
AMEN.
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
true, I love zooming in & out for video transitions, but also love the bokeh & low light of prime lenses
@NaijaBoiTellEm4 жыл бұрын
Like is it possible to have too many lenses? Is water dry?
@unloadedone4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@jackcrackerman4 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@squirreldemon35064 жыл бұрын
"Primes are cheaper, lighter..." *Sigma 35mm f1.2 has entered the chat*
@dizmatt14 жыл бұрын
it's like that scene from jurassic park...watch out for the ripples in the water!
@youknowwho92474 жыл бұрын
That's apples to oranges though. Compare a set of f/1.8 primes to Canons 28-70 f/2 zoom and you'll see what they're talking about.
@rohit2224444 жыл бұрын
Nikon Noct 58mm f.95
@cbflazaro4 жыл бұрын
"Chelsea , you're not a beginner anymore, it's time you put down the zooms and get some TONEY 1.2 LENSES"
@jonner444 жыл бұрын
"I'll zoom with my feet" - last sentence before being eaten by lion
@stevetqp91524 жыл бұрын
Good one, Jonner44!
@Mags0O74 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@thegreatstudio67354 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@Traumglanz4 жыл бұрын
Just choose your prime wisely and make sure that zoom by running away, not running towards. ;-)
@mbr57423 жыл бұрын
Last word of the prime user at the Cliffs of Moher Just one more step baaaaaaaaaaack
@amberdamber74 жыл бұрын
I'm not a prime snob, but once I started using them I definitely noticed the overall quality and aesthetic of prime images is MUCH better than with zooms. Better colors, better contrast, better "look" to the images (even doing direct comparisons). You guys did a great job of comparing "technical" differences, but didn't really touch on this kind of thing, and I think it's a pretty important point.
@ulyssessait9 ай бұрын
prime makes me more active, alert of my composition. I need (always) need to move to framing the shot I want. Whereas when Im using zoom, Im quite lazy myself
@amberdamber79 ай бұрын
@@ulyssessait 100% agree, they force you to be more creative and I think the end results are always better.
@TechnoBabble9 ай бұрын
One of my main lenses is the Sigma Art 40mm f/1.4. When I switch between that and my 24-70 it's crazy how much better the 40mm is.
@billr69834 жыл бұрын
6:42 "...the fact is my $2200 zoom outperformed both your $900 primes..." (Looks at the only piece of camera equipment I have, my $500 superzoom camera.) Why do I even watch these videos? lol
@robertmodalo23654 жыл бұрын
a6000?
@chrismatography78264 жыл бұрын
Definitely feel like the "prime is better than zoom" days are over, at least for all around use. I started with zooms to see what focal lengths I use the most then switched to primes.
@mr.l69824 жыл бұрын
Its nice carrying smaller prime lenses, and I feel like it forces me to get more involved instead of just standing and zooming. Its all a preference, to each their own.
@jamesnelson86974 жыл бұрын
Even Tony can't get through "I'll zoom with my feet" without laughing.
@marshallgoldberg83764 жыл бұрын
James Nelson I wish they’d explained that you cannot zoom with your feet, because when you change the distance to subject, it changes the perspective. For sure “zoom with my feet” works, but it’s not the same. You can’t get the same results as a 15mm lens by walking way way back, for instance. It’s complicated to visualize, but very important. But, anyway... this was an adorable video.
@jamesnelson86974 жыл бұрын
@@marshallgoldberg8376 Yeah, it takes a bit to *really* explain that without a pretty big digression. It's hinted at in the portrait part. I suppose the true ideal is to pick the perspective you want and reach into your vast array of primes that cover all focal lengths, then use your feet to get in the right place...but no one works that way.
@2406ab4 жыл бұрын
@@marshallgoldberg8376 thats why its a joke
@XPoChangLinX4 жыл бұрын
Grand Canyon photo tour: I'll zoom with my feeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~~~~~
@mareklesniak87684 жыл бұрын
I agree and I also think that's something for @Tony & Chelsea Northrup for another techy video with some examples.
@peteypaul78774 жыл бұрын
Camera conspiracy is watching this 👀
@RaoBlackWellizedArman4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
haha yea he is just waiting to roast Tony on something
@rodrigogarcia26074 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video Tony says that nowadays the Fixed Focal lenght lense's main use is getting unique looks, but i'd add that the increased light gathering capabilities and compactness are equaly relevant to a big quantity of photographers of different genres.
@deebea63644 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo Garcia spoiler alert 😂
@andreasbuder44174 жыл бұрын
It is actually exactly that: A well engineered f1.8 prime is so compact and light, and I tend to shoot only three focal lengths, 28mm, 50mm and 85mm while using 50mm 80% of the time, with a two body setup. It is so much better for my shoulders, hands and my back after a full day of event shooting, since you always need a backup body anyway.
@youknowwho92474 жыл бұрын
This. There's no zoom substitute for a 35mm f/1.4 prime for shooting indoors at weddings.
@mbr57423 жыл бұрын
IF you can use the very short DoF and need the light. Modern full frame Cameras can easily do ISO 12800 without too much noise. And an f/2 zoom will do the rest
@rodrigogarcia26073 жыл бұрын
@@mbr5742 yeah, you are right, these f2 primes are amazing, except for the size, weight and price.
@Crawlerbasher4 жыл бұрын
I have both zoom and prime lens, and there both have there uses in photography.
@gavingynert24554 жыл бұрын
They're their and so on
@strawzinthewind4 жыл бұрын
*they *their
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
agree, primes for night vision🌙
@kefkapalazzo1 Жыл бұрын
Outside of low light I don’t really see any reason for me to use primes in my own work lol
@harrisonjr984 жыл бұрын
Primes are great because they force you to really consider composition and framing, but zooms allow you to grab shots you may have totally missed fumbling with a prime. I carry both. Different strokes!
@ulyssessait9 ай бұрын
true. Some shots from far (moments especially) maybe I missed. I think the solution is having 2 body to use 2 primes (35-85)
@timothyjohnson61434 жыл бұрын
I want to see this test done with entry level zoom lenses and primes though. I think there would be a different outcome.
@seaned82 жыл бұрын
A lot of their videos are based on lenses that most people can't afford. Like, let's do some bird shooting. Step One, sell your car and buy this lens. They should do videos with mostly lenses that people can afford.
@jkirk11144 жыл бұрын
Size. Primes tend to be smaller and for most of my photography I'd rather carry a smaller more discrete setup.
@funnybeingme4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Primes have the major advantage of being compact and also lightweight. Carrying a zoom lens attracts attention and makes me look like a tourist.
@amosdevries44814 жыл бұрын
Rater have 2 bigger zoomlenses in my bag then 4 compact primes.
@Humungojerry4 жыл бұрын
this. But then Tony only cares about image quality so needs a huge lens regardless.
@tfm29344 жыл бұрын
Amen. Imagine 15mm (voigtlander) - 35mm/1.8- 85mm/1.8 (sony) in a small bag. Now imagine the 16-35GM amd 24-70GM, neither of which matches 1.8 aperture, costing and weighing more than twice as much, for what? One less lens change and what...? You can buy an additional body or upgrade to a7r4 or a9ii for the price difference! Even replacing the 35 with a 24GM and the 85 with a Batis is still cheaper.
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
true, being discrete/compact & have amazing low light performance is powerful
@MKNYC_4 жыл бұрын
“I can crop” Jared Polin: “NOOOOOOO”
@panaceiasuberes64644 жыл бұрын
FroKnowsNoCropYoh
@BrianCarreraShaw4 жыл бұрын
***Jared Polin has left the conversation***
@robertmueller69794 жыл бұрын
who?
@panaceiasuberes64644 жыл бұрын
@@robertmueller6979 An amazing photographer that has a very colourful tongue...
@cl0udbusting4 жыл бұрын
@@panaceiasuberes6464 You're very polite to say that 😂
@RenBobbins4 жыл бұрын
KEH was great! I was selling all my "old" crop sensor gear. I had a near mint sigma 10-20, that I ended up selling on ebay for $325. KEH offered me $34 for it. I wish I were joking. They offered $105 for my D5600 body with a shutter count of 560, that still smelled new.
@MrJed_s4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea made a great point that's worth repeating: zooms can create background separation through compression at longer focal lengths (with the advantage of more depth of field for the subject). So fast primes really should only dominate in low light or tight spaces when it comes to portraits!
@MiguelBorgesphotography2 жыл бұрын
yes
@kingvisuals21804 жыл бұрын
“Zoom on over to KEH and check out their prime selection of used equipment today!”
@HotBrassandBullets4 жыл бұрын
Who dresses Tony ?
@DRUmat4044 жыл бұрын
Strong work. Let us not judge lenses by the range of their zoom, but by the quality of their optics!!
@rookmaster75024 жыл бұрын
Zooms can potentially make the photographer lazy and refrain from moving around and exploring/discovering alternate vantage points. When you watch people who only use zooms, many never move from the spot; they just stand there in the same position, zoom in and out, pick a focal length and then move on to the next scene. In contrast, regular prime users tend to be more exploratory concerning selecting vantage points, as they are practically forced to move around while shooting a scene or subject.
@EmileMercier4 жыл бұрын
Love your tongue-in-cheek embodiment of lens dogmatists. I always learn something from you guys :)
@bigmaxcc4 жыл бұрын
Since I’m lazy AF I go with with zoom all the way
@WildBikerBill4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put it as 'Lazy AF', but as Practical. The Zoom shooter is going to (a) Carry a lot fewer lenses and (b) do a whole lot less lens swapping than the Prime shooter will, and there are an abundance of high dust/dirt/sand environments where lens swapping is to be avoided at all costs. And I really like the ability to precisely frame the shot in camera rather than cropping in in post, throwing a lot of resolution away after the fact.
@AndySomething4 жыл бұрын
@@WildBikerBill Agreed. I hate, hate, hate swapping lenses. It's such a faff and ruins the flow when you're doing a shoot. I would never dream of using anything other than my 24-105 f4 on my a7iii for general purpose shooting throughout the day, even though it's admittedly not as sharp as my only prime, the 55 1.8 zeiss. I will normally have to pull out the prime in the evenings when lighting is crap but it's more out of necessity and not because I want to. Makes composing shots and adjusting background compression way harder.
@Lucy-dk5cz4 жыл бұрын
You’re auto focus?
@Rjmc194 жыл бұрын
Andy Mckay yeah... the swapping... not a fan. Unless it’s a very controled or very specific environment, i always prefer zooms.
@dzsemx4 жыл бұрын
@bigmaxcc so you are the one who would buy a 15-200mm f1.4 lens. Of course it will need 2 people to carry around, but hey, it's zoom lens
@stuartschaffner97444 жыл бұрын
Well, that was fun! I've gone back and forth, although I generally prefer primes for the specific images I take. To me, the primary advantages of primes are light weight and low flare. People think of flare as the line of artifacts produced by the sun. Actually the real damage of flare is more in muddy shadows in high contrast images. Flare is the totality of light from bright objects nearby that leaks into the shadows. Zeiss calls low flare "microcontrast", which sums it up nicely. I did have to laugh about the concept of zooming with your feet. Tony would love the Parker River Wildlife Sanctuary (Plum Island). Practically every square centimeter of off-trail terrain is mostly poison ivy.
@rphandler Жыл бұрын
Tony, Chelsea, happy to see Tony with the Laowa 15 Zero-D. It's versatile, working well at infinity focus for astro and at 6" for nature close ups while displaying background surroundings. With my Sony 4/16-35 PZ G I can't do the night skies nor can I get quite as close for wildflowers w/ background. No amount of fancy in camera electronics nor software edits will create Zeiss Loxia aperture stars from an image captured with any zoom. My current travel kit: Tamron 2.8-5.6/28-200 + Zeiss Loxia 21. I only surfed into this excellent short video long after you made it.
@marcandamalia4 жыл бұрын
zooming with your feet gives you a different background separation, if that’s your taste cool, but it’s not the same thing/look,
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel4 жыл бұрын
**A young Uncle Sam Expounds The Virtues of Prime Lens to a Beautiful Young Woman**
@82300sd4 жыл бұрын
I think T&C should hire you to do their titles
@nekogami874 жыл бұрын
young Uncle Sam, THAT'S why Tony's look keeps being familiar to me ...
@jmac20504 жыл бұрын
It's the KFC guy
@teriyaki_9inety9ine274 жыл бұрын
Tony and his daughter talking about lens stuff
@harrybalsak9162 жыл бұрын
Both categories of lenses have their place. All of my lenses AIS manual focus, from 8mm f2.8 fisheye to 600mm f/4 super telephoto. I do have several zooms, 25-50 f/4, 35-70 f/3.5. 50-135 f/3.5 and the superlative in every way (except weight) 50-300 f/4.5. The zooms are handy as walkaround lenses, I can put all 4 in the bag and have everything covered from moderate wide angle to medium telephoto. For critical and commercial work, primes are the way to go. For the most part they are considerably faster (I prefer the very fast Nikkors) and the sharpness is outstanding.
@peterverheyen17953 жыл бұрын
I have three primes: 18 f/2.8 Batis + 35 f/1.4 Sigma Art + 85 f/1.8 Batis. I'm hoping to buy the 135 GM sooner or later. They give me the image quality I like, but when you don't have a lot of time to switch lenses you miss the versatility of a zoom lens. Especially the 24-70 zoom. But I'm still happy to walk around with my primes. You know what you're in for when equipping an 18, 35 or 85. You get to know the frame you're working with, so you adapt. The 85 is my favorite focal length, the 35 is the most "walk around" and the 18 can be a bit challenging as you have a very wide angle to shoot with.
@NickL0VIN4 жыл бұрын
Zooms for travel, primes for studio & sets. How I do it.
@miggysmunchies4 жыл бұрын
I was a beginner and started in primes though. When I finally got my first zoom 18-35 sigma, it made things easier. It works wonders!
@lawrose44 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this fun and eye opening video. I'm not a pro. On my Nikon Z6 I shoot the Z 24-70 S f/4.0 as my goto, and the Z 50 S f/1.8 or Z 35 S f/1.8 for low light/available light. Simple. If I need a telephoto I put on the FTZ adaptor and the 28-300 f/3.5-5.6, often in DX mode to get an effective 450mm. I've never seen that one lens is really any better than another for what I do. It's focal length and ease of use, with low light ability as needed. Life is good.
@peterlieberzeit31383 жыл бұрын
Both have their places and application scenarios. One is travelling: when taking a DSLR with me (APS-C), I carry a 16-55/2.8 (i.e. 24-70 @35mm) plus usually a 35/1.8 and/or a (very old) 50/1.4 and a 90/2.8 Macro. The primes work for me in situations with many people, because their smaller build size makes them less "prominent", aka intimidating. If all that is too much, a Sony RX100 Mk5 does an excellent "travel job" .... Which has the added advantage that people do not shy away from it when I ask them to take a picture of me and my family (I don't like selfies ...)
@jonathanroman82854 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this comparison in a head to head! Thanks guys!
@Zakna4 жыл бұрын
I carry the 24 GM 55 1.8 zeiss and the 135 GM remember the r4 crops into 26 mp
@ashleygarvin71774 жыл бұрын
I used to carry the same but switched out for the 16-35 GM, 24-70GM and the 100-400G + 1.4X ... so glad I did as the on the A7r4 with the crop gives so much versatility. Admittedly I am not shooting in low light without a tripod or sports, so that does factor into that decision
@jasongiraulophotography4 жыл бұрын
Its totally case specific. You can shoot a wedding with the trinity (14-24/16-35), 24-70, 70-200 or with 16, 35,50,85, 135 primes. Your choice. Whatever fits your style. I've never been told my 70-200GM isn't sharp enough by a client... plus the autofocus on my a9ii is blazing fast... but if I'm shooting a grand landscape, I might reach for a 24 1.4, or 35 1.4.... It's all a matter of need and taste. My advice - get both.
@SirValiantIII4 жыл бұрын
I was sitting here thinking "The KZbin algorithm did a great job finding this old video. I was just wondering about this!" Then I saw it was posted TODAY?? Man you guys have awesome timing :)
@paullambert4954 жыл бұрын
The outro was hilarious! Abd of course the whole video was very interesting... :)
@skyecommander21694 жыл бұрын
Great vid had some good laughs. Love you guys!
@MarkTalampas4 жыл бұрын
On my Sony A7iii I use prime lens for low light And on my A7Riii I use 2.8 zoom lens for when I have good light. Great video.
@careylymanjones Жыл бұрын
On the portrait test, Chelsea had to zoom to 200mm to match the bokeh from Tony's 85mm. Which meant she had to have more room, to get a comparable framing. Shooting portraits indoors doesn't always give you enough room to simply back away from your subject.
@jdiuurdfsds7 ай бұрын
Exactly. Also, you get a different bokeh, because of the compression difference.
@andgainingspeed4 жыл бұрын
The Sony 16-35mm f2.8 might still be the best wide zoom. But it is the only zoom in my travel kit. I like the primes as they lighter and less conspicuous. My small backpack has a single body along with wide zoom, a 55, 85 and 135.
@hadriendobbelaere26824 жыл бұрын
00:28 "I can zoom with my feet! " 😂 they always say that but that's sooo dumb hahaha
@Bullwinkle0564 жыл бұрын
Especially when you're standing on the rim of the Grand Canyon!
@tfm29344 жыл бұрын
@@Bullwinkle056 Especially when you want the correct measure of compression for a given shot.
@diotough4 жыл бұрын
It's dumb and yet so relateable - most photographers have said that at some point when they were totally fixated on primes.
@Hoggdoc19464 жыл бұрын
Also zooming with your feet can never match the background compression good long zoom lens can bring to an image.
@plowmanjoe4 жыл бұрын
@Timothy Dexter it is dumb, getting closer and zooming are not the same thing
@lensesdontlie87183 жыл бұрын
These battles never really end. Use what you prefer to get the best shots that you can.
@achimboers4 жыл бұрын
Just a big thank you for making me laugh at breakfast here in Sydney. Zoom has become another word for work the last weeks. Thanks for reminding us what zoom actually means
@elliotmarks064 жыл бұрын
I love these competition videos!!!!!!! It is a good reassurance that I am not the only one who greatly disagrees with photography know-it-alls...
@kashourikatsu25434 жыл бұрын
In the end there is no right or wrong
@elliotmarks064 жыл бұрын
@@kashourikatsu2543 I just like to hear the areguemnts...
@veganpotterthevegan3 жыл бұрын
@@kashourikatsu2543 certain things are measurably proveable though. Preferences are a different animal. But noticeably sharper is sharper.
@christopherm77414 жыл бұрын
If you are using the Sony A7RIV with a prime lens. You have the option to flip the camera into APSC mode and get a second focal length out of your lens. I only roll with primes. Currently on my A7RIV I’m using 20mm, 35mm and 85mm. Yeah, zooms can be helpful at times. But I’m perfectly happy with my work around dog needed, and prefer to actually move in and out physically to get the shot I want. I’m a bit more hands on and active, but generally know what I’m looking to shoot and have the proper lens on the camera from the start. APSC mode is just a bonus/backup solution.
@christopherm77414 жыл бұрын
Also on a side note, primes generally are more compact and lighter than a zoom lens.
@marshallgoldberg83764 жыл бұрын
Over the years, I’ve bought three f/2.8 L zooms: The 16-35, the 24-70, and the 70-200. I love the 70-200 and I’d love to have a 100-400, but at closer distances, especially at concerts, I love shooting with my basic $300, 85mm f/1.8 lens. I love the results! And it’s far easier to carry than the 24-70. I thought I’d retire it once I got the 24-70, which cost 5x more, but I keep reaching for the 85mm. They must have made up a special batch of glass the day my 85mm was born; I just love that lens!
@sloppy-1-14 жыл бұрын
"I am sure that there is a prime out there that can beat all of my zooms in terms of sharpness" Nikon 58mm f0.95 NOCT: hello there. The hole in your wallet after your purchase though...
@82300sd4 жыл бұрын
The only zoom I have is a 100-400, everything else I use primes
@smaakjeks4 жыл бұрын
alright
@nicodimus22224 жыл бұрын
The only zoom I have is a 200-500mm, which I use like it's a 500mm prime.
@felixbelanger26594 жыл бұрын
I have a 17-40mm and a 100-400mm and everything else in between is prime as well
@breathLP4 жыл бұрын
The only zooms I have are 16-35, 24-70, 70-200, 100-400, everything elese I use primes (lol)
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr4 жыл бұрын
I'm going all in on the RF system when I pick up the R5, when it comes out. I'm getting the RF 85mm 1.2 L and the upcoming RF 35mm 1.2 L . I'll also be grabbing the RF 100mm-500mm zoom, but just because you can't really replace that zoom with prime lenses easily, but when a 200mm prime lens for RF comes out, I'll be all over it. Maybe even a 400mm prime. We'll see what the wizards at Canon can cook up. Hopefully in 2021 RF system will get a 100mm macro lens, a couple of wide angle prime lenses and a couple of very large telephoto prime lenses. Bring on the L series RF prime lenses!
@DiegoTerzano4 жыл бұрын
Love my Sony FE 24-105 f4 but I find myself using primes more. Batis 18mm f2.8, Sony 55mm f1.8 and Samyang 85mm f1.4. It is all about style and genre. No 1 size fits all.
@christopherhoward87264 жыл бұрын
I use both, and I think zooms have greatly improved since I started photography. I have a 50mm 1.2 L, 85mm 1.4 IS L, 24-70 2.8 L, 70-200 2.8 L.
@williamreymond26694 жыл бұрын
Tony: "I'm going to prove it to you - but first..."
@4xoverland4 жыл бұрын
This statement in misleading. Very misleading. My daughter is one of Perths leading brand photographers, making a good living. IE. a professional. And her favourite lens is a 35-70 F2.8. I am a professional video maker of 40 years experience, and I have a mix of primes and zooms. For video work, in anything but a studio environment, zooms are better. In all these case, not better for image quality. But far better for getting the story. So what's more important? Story or image quality? Story! Always story! Stating that zooms are for amateurs is misleading and misguided. It's true that amateurs tend to over-use the zoom button, but that's it.
@GRUZ_JA4 жыл бұрын
Andrew, make a update video on your video/photo gear on your channel, I am curious what are you using now, have you got still your A7RIII ?
@jamesmurphy98453 жыл бұрын
Watch the rest of the video.
@Stasiek_Zabojca3 жыл бұрын
You clearly did not watched whole video...
@drewwolin31622 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point of the video my guy
@rydergw4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea, I love your deadpan humour. It makes the show ! :-)
@facedown97544 жыл бұрын
Chelsea u r so funny!! Love ya
@rajoochatlani90224 жыл бұрын
Indoors and outdoors within fairly limited spaces, my fixed lenses do most of the work. Outdoors where I am uncertain of what I will shoot, the zooms do the job and the light is pretty good anyway. Except when it is not, then the primes come out. With modestly priced glass, I am perfectly happy with the results. The bottom line: learn what the zooms and primes do and you are pretty much ready for anything. Kind of, because you will always wish, Damn... I wish I had brought my other lens!
@GrantSR4 жыл бұрын
When I have climbed up on a building to get a "unique perspective" and am taking pictures from the edge of the roof, there is no way I can "zoom with my feet."
@Woodenarrows4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea is great :-) and Madelyn sure has grown the past few years. I've had the 2015 SDP book for about 4+ years now. Not talking to you Tony, you're a lens snob JK, :-)
@Narsuitus Жыл бұрын
Over the decades, I have used the following 3-prime lens combinations for shooting general subjects: Argus C3 rangefinder 35/50/100 Pentax 35mm SLR with 28/50/105 Nikon 35mm SLR 24/35/85 or 24/35/135 or 24/35/180 Leica 35mm rangefinder 21/35/90 Mamiya medium format TLR 55/80/180 Mamiya RB67 medium format SLR 50/80/180 Olympus micro 4/3 digital mirrorless 14/20/45 Fuji APS-C digital mirrorless 56/23/16 The image quality from my first zoom (Nikon 43-86 f/3.5) was so bad that it soured me to zoom lenses for years. Years later, when I decided to make the change from manual focus lenses to autofocus lenses, I decided to keep my old manual focus primes and buy new autofocus zooms. I purchased the following autofocus Nikon zoom lenses: 14-24 f/2.8 28-70 f/2.8 80-200 f/2.8 Based on my experience with these modern zoom lenses, zooms no longer deserve the bad reputation they had earned in the past.
@AlexFiliUK Жыл бұрын
Primes are great when starting out. The nifty fifty in particular is fantastic. For when I go out and do events I do tend to go with my 17-50mm just in case I have space restrictions. When I go for wildlife shoots I use my 70-300 with a teleconverter to get a bit of extra reach.
@emilycross45274 жыл бұрын
My current coverage of focal lengths uses primes strategically. I have two primes, both Zeiss Batis, 18mm and 85 mm. Then 24-70 and 100-400 Sony G master.
@ROBRESETAR4 жыл бұрын
somebody needs a ..."camera counselor"
@markhudon24959 ай бұрын
Fuji APSC guy - Here what worked for me. Maybe give this a try instead of spending money on new gear. Buy vintage fast primes and experiment with focal length that work or don't work for you. It may be easier (and a lot less expensive} to make an educated choice. All my vintage lenses I had acquired 25 years ago. You may find a family member or friend that has an old camera with some beautiful equipment. The adapter was 60 dollars. When I figure out what I like I may spend $1500 bucks on a new prime or zoom. My lenses: -Fuji 16-80mm F4.0 (New zoom kit lens} -Vivitar 28mm F2.0 macro, -Minolta 50mm F1.7, -Minolta 135mm F3.5 -Minolta 35-70mm-F3.5 (zoom with Macro)
@carly93554 жыл бұрын
I use both primed and zooms depending on what I am doing. Also KEH is awesome, they gave me a decent amount of money back for camera gear I sold to them. Very fast and thorough service.
@Dan.gibson.photographer4 жыл бұрын
The 70-200 GM my go to lens😍😍😍
@longliveclassicmusic4 жыл бұрын
Canon EF version 3 for me! Such an incredible piece of glass. I love how much love and care camera manufacturers put into engineering our favorite lenses! The results are just mindblowing. 💙 I stick to the 24-105 f/4 mostly in studio work, but outdoors that background compression is just irresistible with a 70-200 2.8!
@Dan.gibson.photographer4 жыл бұрын
longliveclassicmusic I only can agree 😄
@86BBUB4 жыл бұрын
Zooms for most travel; primes for "arty" outings.
@TomReichner4 жыл бұрын
I shoot zooms now, but I will say that long telephoto primes do have one big advantage that was not mentioned; they work much better with teleconverters than zooms do. I used a 400mm f2.8 for many years, and it produced flawless image quality with the 1.4 teleconverter, and very good image quality with the 2.0 teleconverter. I could use a teleconverter with the big prime and still have truly excellent image quality that would stand up to the harshest pixel-peeping. Conversely, using either teleconverter on any of my zoom lenses results in noticeably poor image quality, compared to the naked lens.
@adamkaras12644 жыл бұрын
I think the best way is something between, because if you know there is one thing you want to do, a prime can be lighter with the same quality. But a zoom give you more options. At least now, when canon made his Rf 28-70 f2 you have the quality and f stop of a prime, but it's almost a brick. Furthermore I think that e.g. the eos system, the Rf 15-35 will outperform the most primes. But the rf 50mm f1.2, I fall in love with. So a mix is a perfect way to don't become to lazy:)
@RollingStonesPhoto4 жыл бұрын
You two had me laughing. Thanks, needed a fun video today.. I was surprised at the results too. I am now curious how my Canon Primes vs Zoom will compare. Keep up the great shows. This one one of your best.
@DerVagabundli4 жыл бұрын
I kind of started doing the same, but in the midst of zooming in 200% and comparing side by side I started thinking: "Srsly, what's the point?!" Just take an image and decide whether you're happy with it when looking at it at the size it's supposed to be seen. There's way too much obsession about sharpness.
@TonyAndChelsea4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@kenneth61024 жыл бұрын
The PRIME that beats all others: Optimus Prime. It's a fantasy sci-fi.
@st.michaelthearchangel77744 жыл бұрын
A lot of those Transformer movies within the past decade have been quite garbage, unfortunately.
@kenneth61024 жыл бұрын
Blessed Mother What are you talking about? They are epic! Just forget about the story, logic and reasoning, you have some robotic CG porn. You don't watch porn for the story, right?
@JackStalk4 жыл бұрын
I like to carry light when I shoot weddings, I can fit my body, flash, 35mm, and 105mm in a tiny 7"x13" bag and I can't fit a 24-70 and 70-200 in the same sized bag. Also, my 35mm fits in my pocket so I can easily switch lenses on the fly. The 24-70 doesn't really fit in my pocket. If you want to simplify your setup primes are the way to go. I also know exactly where I need to stand at a given focal length. I shot exclusively on primes last year after shooting on zooms for years and I'll never go back.
@PhotoTrekr4 жыл бұрын
I was reading a response today to a video about travel lenses. Someone said that he only took a 24mm GM lens and a 85mm GM along with his A7R4. I'm a zoom lenses shooter and his solution never occurred to me. But, I believe that I could be pretty happy with that combo.
@thesharpercoder4 жыл бұрын
Primes still have the edge when it comes to wide apertures.
@LyndonPatrickSmith4 жыл бұрын
Poor kid. I hope you paid her! : )
@felixd60014 жыл бұрын
Unity against exploited models and beginning freelancers !!
@Spock1054 жыл бұрын
Every lens has its use. It's a matter of available light , weight and situation . In the past it was almost not done to go beyond 400 asa because your shots would have grain all over . Now one can use ISO easy till 6400 and less need for a F1.2, 1.4 ,1.8 etc. I have 23 lenses of which 6 are zooms . The zooms are used mostly at events or travel . The hardest part is always to make the final choice which lenses to take along and which system Nikon or Fuji, or both.
@wRicky894 жыл бұрын
A real fight would be with the same budget and the same weight. The money you save buying 4-5 primes versus 2-3 zooms allows you to buy an carry with you a second body fixing the versatility problem. Anyway it depends on situations. In events you can go with 2 bodies. One with 24/28mm and the other with 50/55mm or one with a 35 and the other with an 85 (depends on the event) and you're better. Unless you are far and you can't move, and you take out the 70-200mm. In landscape I'd use a mix. Choosing 1 or 2 of the 3 "standard" zoom (16-35, 24-70/24-105, 70-200) and 1 or 2 primes for the favourite focal length, and I'd use 2 bodies, maybe leaving on often on a tripod for time lapses.
@winstonpx4 жыл бұрын
Why does the "bullsh*t" censorship at 5:24 last three seconds lmao
@donaldmcvee93714 жыл бұрын
Primes are faster. Period. ... Oh yeah, and smaller and lighter...and cooler.
@XxFZLxX3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my RF 85mm F1.2 DS, can't wait for it to arrive!
@jml79163 жыл бұрын
Cost and weight. I’m a budget shooter and my bag has Rokinon(Samyang) 35mm f2.8 pancake, 50mm f1.8 Sony, 28-70 Sony kit lens and a Canon 70-300 f slow with an adapter. All in it costs less than 1 of those fast primes and likely weighs less than the 70-200 f2.8. When you can’t afford top glass, you play the advantages of each. PS, my pancake brings me great joy for the price. Small, light and fast.
@tmbacz4 жыл бұрын
Nikon 20mm, 35mm, 50mm. Tamron 70-210. Very acceptable glass. Considerably cheaper and lighter than the trinity. I would go with the zooms if price and weight wasn’t an object.
@calvinatdrifterstudio84382 жыл бұрын
If you're a professional you probably need all of these lenses. If you are just having fun, TONEY 1.2 FOR LIFE
@davepetersen69752 жыл бұрын
How about a father daughter or mother daughter photography lesson series? My 16 year old is taking a class at his HS and we are having fun talking about his projects and shooting together. Would love to see how professionals would do that!
@careylymanjones Жыл бұрын
I tend to use zooms for telephoto and superwide lenses. For the bread and butter focal lengths (24mm through 85mm on full frame) I like primes better. And one way I get more versatility out of my (full frame) primes is to carry an APS-C body. With it, my 24mm crops to the field of view of a 36mm, My 45mm crops to 67.5mm, and my 85mm crops to 127.5mm. It's like having six lenses.
@paperazzo3 жыл бұрын
So great when the video rewards watching until the actual end.
@frogmedia4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on hte type of photogaphy you make. I do high altitude trekking and climbing. Carring a bag full of primes simply isn't possible due to weight, bulk and mobility. Fitting my camera with a Canon 28-300 L lens allows me to get great pictures and carry a single lens. Obviously, it has it's limitations concerning fs, but it's a necesary trade.
@ZeldagigafanMatthew4 жыл бұрын
And I have to say, even the cheapo lens available these days are acceptably sharp. A couple weeks ago, I got a picture of a crow looking at the camera with it's head cocked to the side and you are able to see the fine detail in its feathers... after I brought the shadows up a bit.
@MeAMuse4 жыл бұрын
I think people should have both. I personally have a 35mm, 85mm and a 90 Macro (why didn’t you use a macro Tony!). They are for subjects and situations I shoot all the time. If you know what you want, or need a constraint to inspire creativity zooms are key! Zooms... I love the flexibility and being able to shoot a lot of different things without changing lenses. I am covered from 16-560mm if you count the teleconverter. I definitely prefer it when traveling. I honestly could live with just the 16-35mm, 85mm, and 100-400mm. If I had to choose 1 more it would be my 35 prime. If I could only have 1 lens it would be a hard choice between a 35 prime and a standard zoom.
@reality150tv3 жыл бұрын
U 2 really are good together. Prob the best duo on youtube that i have seen. Wish u the best.
@fauxtography10184 жыл бұрын
I had a big preference for primes until I got a Canon 70-200 2.8. It quickly became my lens of choice. I now shoot primarily with zooms while my second shooter uses my primes. We'll often mix it up though, so one of us uses wide zooms and telephoto primes while the other uses wide primes and the telephoto zoom.
@matthew8169 Жыл бұрын
So should I use Zoom lens or Prime lens for portrait, wedding, landscape, wildlife and night stars photography ?
@ma3xiu14 жыл бұрын
One place I do like a prime is doing street photography -- I have a 16-35GM lens for my Sony, but it is big and heavy compared to the 35mm 1.8 prime, which is a bit less conspicuous.
@RmDIrSudoSu4 жыл бұрын
As a professional, I use prime in studio, zooms for outside (event photography, wedding, ...). But you can try to take pictures in a wedding without being seen with prime lens. You won't be able to get close enought and will disturb a lot of people, the Zoom allow me to stay out of everyone's sight during the ceremony. For prime that can beat your zoom, look no further than Hasselblad.. I use them in studio, and they are fantastic. But outside of a studio, I don't really see the point of using them, even in astrophotography.
@audigex5 ай бұрын
Primes are great when you're in a fixed environment or when you're looking for one shot (eg a landscape or portrait), or when you're aiming for a specific kind of photography (street photography). If you have a specific shot in mind or want consistency then they're great. Similarly you just can't quite get the same background separation with a zoom. I do think they have a place But Zoom lenses are great for when you're travelling or visiting somewhere and want to be taking lots of photos of lots of different things. None of the photos will be quite as good, but it's much more flexible. An 85mm is just not gonna cut it at the zoo, for example, unless you really have time to set up each shot. Or when shooting wildlife, you often don't know exactly where the subject will be and have to be ready to zoom on demand. Zooming with your feet takes too long I like both - a couple of zoom lenses covering a decent focal range (I use 18-55 and 75-300, although would prefer if that gap wasn't there) plus a couple of primes for specific usage. Eg I think a portrait prime is always a good bet, and perhaps another (eg a wide angle for landscapes) if there's a specific type of shot you like to take
@marians87724 жыл бұрын
That 'knowing the lens' argument can't be understated. I shot so much with my 105DC that I know the composition before looking through the finder. I tried to use a 70-200 instead but it slowed me down dramatically to always get the Focal length right. With the 105 I'd just guesstimate, shoot, crop a little in post if necessary and done.
@PaganiTypeR4 жыл бұрын
I shot exclusively with primes in the past, now I shoot exclusively with zooms and I noticed a huge contrast between the two. First off, I like both. For events there's just no time for me to swap lenses, therefore zoom lens helps a lot and that's why I like zooms, also zooms are hella sharp now. HOWEVER Primes do have a unique look due to wider apertures and MOST IMPORTANTLY they force you to be more creative. I noticed that with a zoom I tend not to walk as much and not to look for better angles as much, that's why I'm anxious to get back into that prime life, mix it up a little bit. And if I had to choose what to shoot for the rest of my life, I'd choose prime, just because it is so much more fun and interesting to shoot with prime (at least for me).
@zipp4everyone2634 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the sarcasm from Tony is just spot on! Great counters from Chelsea! Do more of these hidden gems!