He literally chose to reduce his own GPM | Whose Fault Is It Anyways? #17

[@GadBoDag]

The "stand still in a wave of 12 lane creeps without any levels in Retaliate" strat is absolutely bonkers

[@georgeroberts2210]

Honestly wild lmao

[@tamasdukan1495]

Well, if he had, that would have pushed the lane duh! And you obviously don't want that! KEK

[@darryllarge5900]

I usually don't feel that guy wrench watching some of these reviews, but that honestly hurt me watching all that gold just waiting for nothing to occur.

[@spicymilk9567]

"I effectively shut down Arc Warden" meanwhile he's 1k net worth ahead at 14 minutes lmao

[@用生命吃瓜]

For that bracket I would say it was pretty effective

[@dm9910]

All my lower ranked friends do the same thing. Every game they tell they're winning the lane and then I look at the postgame and see that they were 2k gold behind the entire time

[@asd-dr9cf]

​@@dm9910I hate that. How your can your game sense be that out of touch? Unless they're blatantly lying to themselves and everyone else 😂

[@dm9910]

@@asd-dr9cf I think it's because when they play in their own bracket, when they put on any kind of pressure, their opponents miss every cs. In our party games some of us are much higher ranked, so we get matched vs better players who don't crumble under the first bit of pressure.

[@ousqa]

​@asd-dr9cf I'm pretty low ranked, people are often too conceited to realize they're wrong and believe they're doing the right thing because they don't think they could be wrong. I played a spectre game, where the enemy offlane completely focused on my pos 5, and although they got a couple kills on him they let me get completely free farm which led to an early radiance and just a super easy game since I just wasn't contested at any point in the game. While we were destroying their ancient, they made sure to say ez bot because they somehow thought killing a support and giving a spec free farm must have been great strategy.

[@mnesmtg5613]

Every closeup gag is gold. Zach doesn’t miss!

[@avocadoarmadillo7031]

My buddy and i were both herald, we've been getting some games in and watching your content and we hit guardian V and crusader II recently, gonna try playing offlane and cutting that wave 😎

[@jacksonbuckley4367]

that rs joke consolidated you as my new favorite youtuber lmao

[@digitalsmear]

Thanks for these! Your explanations really make it clear what we should be doing in *our* bracket in order to make incremental improvement. It's much more actionable and retainable than just trying to mimic pros.

[@Hellrider_145]

13:46 this mind set of holding the lane 10 minuntes in, gave me an unbearable amopunt of ansiety. So much gold waiting to be had right there, and he is choosing to deliveratlely slow down his farm.

[@Flamebreakerful]

I think he's a league player or something. In league this is a valid strat. The opponent laner doesnt' have a jungle to go farm, all the gold and xp he can get is righth there in lane. With centaur holding it like that he's effectively starving the opponent......... IF this were league of legends

[@DMacDaddy]

Man… I remember the old Wilderness Baits from Junior High OSRS. 😂🎉 easy on the nostalgia, Zach!

[@TankorSmash]

If you don't want to worry about hotkeys (although you should!) you can also right click the courrier button in the corner and click send to shop there.

[@kc-lz8gs]

7:35 Lol

[@nomznomz2]

Match id: 7201401597 I am playing Timbersaw (keep in mind that mid is by far my least played role) We had lots of debate as to what to do with our team's early lead. We got the first aegis of the game with a morphling, and most of our team felt like we were ok to rest on our laurels and use the first aegis to farm, but our abaddon was insistent that we push with it. In the end, we sort of tried to listen to the abaddon, and from my perspective, died a lot trying to force stuff that we weren't strong enough to force. This resulted in us dying and Muerta soaking lots of free gold and xp. Our Abaddon felt like the reason we lost is that we were too complacent, let the Muerta farm, and we all died to late-game Muerta, while I believe that if we didn't try to overforce our hand, we could have made space for morphling to farm up enough to be so strong that we could stomp them around 40 minutes. I'm sure I made a boatload of mistakes, since mid is not my primary role and timbersaw is not a hero i feel totally comfortable on, but I am curious to see what you have to say about this match!

[@Youmu_Konpaku_]

There's definitely a lot of room for improvement for that match

[@pedrolim]

That tube man cosplay at 3:20 got me laughing hard

[@markermarque9843]

That RuneScape reference was funny af, it gave me nostalgic goosebumps... 😂😂

[@jonathanmccarthy3208]

This series is wonderful. Thanks for putting in the work! Very informative.

[@BadMuthaDro]

My runescape wilderness armor trimming ptsd came back after watching this video

[@moonjellying697]

@5:24 Jupiter would like to remind everyone to stay hydrated and to subscribe for more important kitty PSAs

[@enijize1234]

2:30 fucks the combo up. you wanna double edge first, then stomp, then get a 2nd double edge. It didn't matter so much here as SS has low health pool but double edge first!

[@branwellesanmiguel8503]

3:18 is the single most goofiest thing you have done yet LOL

[@stephenryan6242]

Loving this content, I play a bit of centaur I don't creep wave cut enough - off to practice! Keep it coming Z

[@kwonone1540]

Love the RuneScape Wildy bait😂

[@hado33_]

the runescape reference made me lol

[@Blackshowel]

the best thing to do is proxy every creep wave because the carry will be low and die to a dive or their team will tp and you will waste their time

[@nathanwance2833]

a youtuber i can most relate hahaha.. not the one with "absoulutely broken" stuff

[@Brettyoke49]

Excellent runescape reference king

[@VitaminBeez]

That OSRS reference made me laugh. Fuck the wildy!

[@lifestealer4699]

You don't 'shut down' arc warden. You can tell it's low mmr just from that.

[@edmis90]

Weird question but.. does anyone know what's his graphics settings? It looks different than mine and I like it.

[@kujaku5469]

match id : 7236423931 Medusa i felt my team just playing stupidly and i cant claw us out of the enemy lead few things starting with my supposed Lane partner spirit breaker decide to jungle from minute 0, then axe start whining for help when the enemy 4 man deathballing on his lane despite that being a good thing as i get space from that, our mid PA went BF>Desolator ignoring im playing medusa very greedy core added with the axe being scarred and said he just gonna hit jungle creep so my camp to farm ended up being limited. On the early game fight i dont tp to help since razor static linking me would be a death sentence early on but the safelane clinks ended up steamrolling midgame , should i have actually tp on those early fight?

[@z3219825]

Lol it seems like this centaur watched a tutorial on creep equilibrium. He is still doing it that far into the game

[@apex9806]

I swear to god I was thinking the exact same thing xD Being overl efficient in 1 mechanic

[@apex9806]

I closed the video with a disgusted expression on my face and my sister asked me what i saw... it was the centaur sitting with 16 creeps with 0 points in retaliate and STILL missing last hits, then complain his team is the problem. I didnt even realize I was making a face... I reopened the video and finished it. My god, people are horrible at evaluating themselves. "Must be the other guy's fault"

[@muhammadangga7939]

so as offlane the best thing to do is to kill tower ASAP and roam?

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

Ideally yes. Most Offlaners are designed to be strong early and win their lane against most matchups assuming the player has good enough fundamentals and a competent support to back him up. You do this by out-csing and outlevelling the opposing carry or outright get them very low or kill them whenever possible. It's their job to make the enemy safelaner's life miserable so yes getting the tower is ideal but post laning most meta carries right now have the tools to catch up in farm despite conceding the tower early. Do keep that in mind and don't simply call it a day that you did your job taking down the tower and afk farm. Help extend the lead and apply more pressure by joining fights and taking objectives with the team.

[@sandroserrano9186]

I have a venomancer game I'd like you to analyse, I thought I was doing pretty well, but ended up losing anyway. So I am sure I could've done something differently to win that game. Also there was trash talk

[@sandroserrano9186]

Match ID: 7202313214

[@dnddmdb642]

Perfect thumbnail.

[@tarekhlayhel4843]

I don’t know how much time we need to wait until our turn comes 👀

[@Delacrow_l_Chawngthu]

In old dota 1 you just buy poor man shield with some regen and you straight up start your lane behind enemy tower when using axe.

[@TheBIackEye]

Skilling Hoofstomp 3 times is such a bad mistake that's some 10 mmr play

[@lockdown8716]

0 points in retaliate is crazy

[@Mirage0153]

I bet someone would've pointed that out and this guy would've been like "play your game feeder" or some shit like that

[@deyoviC]

Match ID: 7206797590 I usually have a habit of breaking down where did we make a mistake and where did I personally made mistakes, but this game I just can't figure it out. Can you help me out identify where were the crucial mistakes made and who did them? I was playing Drow Ranger and usually I play pos 1. I believe the other two lanes were lost, except maybe mine where it was about equal considering the bad start. The game felt heavily one sided, but I knew that by defending high ground we could've won. I think Monkey King didn't realize that we don't need damage, but rather survivability and he should've gone for such items. I suggested him to go BKB and he did and that helped us for a while, but he then proceeded to go stupid items. No scepter, no refresher. I also think my team was AFKing and not capitalizing on kills we could've had for instance after the fight at minute 27, we could've easily capitalized on Weaver and snowball off of that. We had everything, but nobody wanted to follow me. In retrospective, think that was the only way we would've won. Can you shed a light and give other ways we would've won this game? Thanks.

[@devids51]

MATCH ID: 7201017728 How do you win games like this? Played bloodseeker core and ended with a loss at 11/3/13. My support nyx only bought dagon and arcane, legion commander tilted while we were winning because the supports misplayed once. Before I knew it, the game was lost. Could I have played more aggressive? was the game already lost from the draft? Is it my team's fault? Is it my fault? Why do I still play this game. I feel like If my team only listened to my calls to push and stop chasing kills we could've won. Is it even possible for me, as a bloodseeker core, to out carry these heroes? Should I just uninstall?

[@ichangiz]

Learn dota and have a laugh. The zquix experience.

[@sidders1943]

Hi, I have a game I just played: 7204236274 I was the jakiro and while i did do some dumb stuff like walk into them and die a bunch of times. I think the last pick offlane drow and the fact my cores didn't buy a single BKB or Nullifier, coupled with my slark going full rambo when the rest of the team had no way to follow him lost the game. My build is a little weird, I built double bracer to not die to nyx/techies early, and aghs to deal with tb, who turned out not to be the issue. Not sure whether I needed something other than shivas and hex, but i figured the int would give me mr and nobody was buying heal reduction. Force staff was probably the item, but given i had shitloads of money I went big. I sold my glimmer for a pipe late as nobody else had one, but i think it's a little bad because i was too far back to use shiva's and pipe effectively. Anyway, I'm just typing this to de-tilt more than anything haha. Would love if you could take a look and you will probably have a good laugh at the dumb throws made repeatedly by both teams.

[@SargeKot]

Please more cats

[@darthdog90]

Match ID: 7200559869 I was on Doom, playing role q(I normally play 4). Every single lane won by a large margin but nobody wanted to make any plays, so we lost in the late game. I felt like I played well, any tips?

[@c5break257]

Hello Zack, I will be brief: Match ID: 7206686247 (I was Undying) I was the only tank in the team, and I get this type of games in my pubs all the time. Can you please tell me how to deal with enemy chain stun in these scenarios? Also, my team always feeds when I go farm. I try to apply BSJs advice to push the lanes in order to get some farm as a 5. These two moments happen a lot in my games and I lose. What am I doing wrong? The game was 46 mins long, so if you can not spare the time I will understand. Thanks anyway, regards :)

[@beepiffy2550]

The osrs clip lmao

[@VonR333]

Match ID:7214618132 I'm Zeus with kotl and almost all our spells hit the enemy. But they could not die and when they sneak up on us once or twice we almost die. Can anyone explain how is this fair?

[@velleitious]

Match #7195086094 (Herald/Guardian/Crusader 5 stack, I played Disruptor) I gave my Naga Siren the free-est lane ever and she still got outfarmed by Abbadon. The other team didn't touch her for the first 3 minutes, she got 1 kill 1 assist on abbadon in lane, and she still ended up worth less than him. Meanwhile our Mirana got crushed mid because she's the most passive player in the world, and our offlaner built vanguard and most of a midas before he even looked at another lane. Warlock couldn't position to save his life, literally, and fed every fight, ending up with the most deaths on the team. I, of course, called rosh and the tormenter every time we took them, called for several successful rotations against isolated heroes, and did not contribute in any way whatsoever to our loss. I didn't misuse any of my spells ever, never made pointless rotations, and certainly never misestimated the range of the tormenter

[@JovanKK]

This guy have a sh1t ton amount of copium if he think he was shutting down arc lmao

[@irwinwinaris9800]

MatchID: 7210026210 Playing Sniper. I knew this game was an uphill battle with how the draft when (Morph PL, our drow 4 wasn't inspiring either) but we won the lanes and pushed our advantage until it fell apart. I messed up not BKBing fast enough in 1 fight and the game fell apart afterwards. Not sure if I could itemize better or done anything in the game to win it, seems like we had a really narrow margin of error because of the draft.

[@devids51]

3:18 Thank me with likes

[@andrewnguyen4801]

Pl arc wr and no retaliate for 14 min...

[@hellpermonkey]

try 4 4 0 build its quite epic when u are ahead

[@motopro8312]

Match ID: 7207223887 Played dark seer, I think I played okay definitely made mistakes but I feel our supports trolled us end game by not helping our carry.. Still had a fun game though.

[@Twinsen764]

You cant down Arc Warden

[@Eriolp]

ID 7202805392 (7.33d) Enchantress 4 I think my off Beastmaster went the wrong build. I went a fast drums to encourage zoo pushing and then Glimmer for magical output resistance. I probably did a few wrong calls early game and ended up dying a few times but I don't think we lost the overall game because of it. Also a few chases where I went in with the team when I should've called for a back out even though I'd probably get flamed for not dying with the team. Lion was just being toxic.

[@gmbarokitty]

match id: 7203460889 its crusader-archon bracket. I am the necro in this match and I lost my lane so badly. Techies left me all alone with WK and he trashed me every time we meet. Our carry is too squishy and dies most the clashes. In the end, we won the game. I made a comeback and and carry the whole team. The match was too one sided the 1st 30mins. They made a mistake by not countering me as they were too complacent of not buying nullifier as they might be thinking that they can just ignore me. So I proved them wrong. I stomped them all after I got my core items. I know I made a lot of mistakes in the lane by still going to a losing lane despite having a bad time. I cant go mid or safe for my 2 other cores are farm dependent as well. Can you pinpoint them to be a lesson for me and for the viewers as well.

[@Joel2Million]

omg that triple wave static period was painful to watch. Clip giver, PLEASE never do that again. You can clear the wave, yes, you give some farm to arc that way, but it puts arc at some risk of being ganked, it forces someone to defend tower, it lets you jungle, it lets you take lotus, it protects your tower if you get killed, it lets your team use gate more safely. After the few 5-10 minutes staticing is not a thing, it's bad at that point because people can jungle. when you and arc can't jungle well at level 123 and even 4 then it's fine, after that it's trash.

[@JacknOats]

It tilts the fuck out of me when people skip putting a point in an ability. I understand the reasoning behind it, but I heavily disagree with it. Maybe skipping an ability for one level early on is reasonable for a spike in damage to get an early kill. But still it is an entire tool in your kit that you literally cannot utilize because you don't have it.

[@cajeb5396]

Lol when you call Centaur not very intelligent referring to the hero’s attributes but it sounds like you’re talking about the player lol

[@DoubleITman]

*Literally griefing* Its my teammates fault!

[@Polaczek1990]

MatchID: 7204180987 I played as WD - pos5. Except I think we won the lane and my carry had evrything he needed. All other lanes went horrible. Pos4 started to getting midas and afk farming in woods. Mid tried to solo farm vs 2 invis heroes. I ended up as a creep for my enemies. I do not understand what I did wrong in this match. PLEASE, HELP ME BE BETTER!

[@lul5592]

how to say you suck at dota in a 16 minute video 😂

[@rhizomefriend]

7200304575 I played Rubick here. According to Stratz I got top support, but my rubick win rate is dreadful and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Tbh I usually blame myself, but I often feel like more cores aren't really having an impact (again probs a lot due to me).

[@JarecFR]

Meow!

[@bolverk4355]

osrs content when?

[@TerrennonPriv]

:)

[@YankstaNZ]

This centaur is trash

[@cowboyga1]

this centaur is so bad. No point in Retaliate is just terrible

[@1992LUXO]

that CW is so bad player as offlaner

[@iceiceiceification]

The no retaliate wow