ZR1 Laps Laguna Seca! - 2009 Best Driver's Car Competition

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@jamzrichards5306
@jamzrichards5306 5 жыл бұрын
10 years later and still the quietest Randy has been while driving
@r3d_ti3_guy
@r3d_ti3_guy 5 жыл бұрын
2019 and Pobst is still my favorite driver. #AllHailTheKing #ZR1
@sspope
@sspope 15 жыл бұрын
I read the whole article on their website and it is huge and I do mean HUGE. They were taking soooo many factors into consideration....for instance ergonomics. 18 pages full of information, verdicts, graphs, charts. It's probably the biggest and most complicated comparison I've ever seen. A lot of work behind it.
@qikqbn77
@qikqbn77 15 жыл бұрын
This driver was fair with all his comments on all the cars. In fact I was impressed with how honest he was on some of his comments. If you have ever driven a 11 second qtr mile car through the canyons then you know it is a "wild ride"... it is hard to balance that kind of power in a front engine car with the tail so light. I love the ZR1, but you can not beat mid-engine handling and feel. This test is about balance and driver involvement and the Cayman S has it all.
@rugbyguitargod
@rugbyguitargod 2 жыл бұрын
His comments were spot on for the ZR1's characteristics. Just in my limited experience driving the ZR1 in Assetto Corsa with FFB wheel, pedals and H-pattern shifter, the way he describes how it drives is EXACTLY how I would describe it. To me, the ZR1 is almost as much of a handful as a Ferrari F40 and the Ferrari's main fault is the boost comes on SUPER fast, which makes it easy to overwhelm the rear tires, especially if you get a bit too pedal happy at corner exits.
@ashleythompson3677
@ashleythompson3677 5 жыл бұрын
Best review ever in the magazine article he's referenced saying its not that the car is harder to control it is that the corners where come into play faster than he has seen before.
@sirlonghair
@sirlonghair 11 жыл бұрын
the original ZR1 test car was blue it was a legend of whispers long before it was reviled THE CAR every Vett guy wants,along with the Sledgehammer
@ZR1Terror
@ZR1Terror 15 жыл бұрын
Now that is what I call a perfect car!
@mtooshort20
@mtooshort20 15 жыл бұрын
Actually yes u can use the vette everyday. There are plenty of guys who used to drive Linginfelter Z06's, Z51's, etc. as daily drivers that came to the dealership all the time. This ZR1 has magnetic ride control and can be set to a softer dampining setting City and highway driving. And, actually the leaf springs in the Z06 have a stiffer dampening ability than coilovers do, hence their use.
@sspope
@sspope 15 жыл бұрын
"THis guy s GM hater" Yeah, right. That's why he loves the CTS-V so much.
@gweggorz
@gweggorz 15 жыл бұрын
Yea I read it, too. I like reading up on things and understanding them before I post. Makes everyone a little less pissed at you ;) One of the reasons I sub to the MotorTrend mag is because they're thorough with all their tests like this. Gives you every little detail about everything.
@Teramydog
@Teramydog 5 жыл бұрын
That bug on the windshield really bugged me. Pun intended. 🤣
@Tunerboy8732
@Tunerboy8732 14 жыл бұрын
I did a 1:29.672 in an all stock ZR1 on forza 3 using the controller with all assists off regular manual no clutch.Im pretty proud of that after seeing this guy's lap.
@rugbyguitargod
@rugbyguitargod 2 жыл бұрын
lol Forza's physics are kind of a joke compared to Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizione, iRacing, Race Room, R-Factor, etc. The fact that you were able to do that with a controller should say everything. Try driving the ZR-1 in Assetto Corsa on Laguna Seca and tell me how you fare. The physics of the ZR1 in AC are remarkably realistic. I even tried swapping on racing slicks with no success of really taming the tail happiness of the ZR1 with no TCS/Stability Control. Its almost as difficult to control as an F40
@alim7502
@alim7502 2 жыл бұрын
@@rugbyguitargod bro dude this that before assetto existed
@mikalebg
@mikalebg 14 жыл бұрын
@whattheheack, He is Randy Pobst, Pobst is the 2003, 2007, 2008, and 2010 SCCA World Challenge GT champion and is a two-time class winner of the 24 Hours of Daytona, in 2001 and 2006. A full time race car driver not a TV host
@willsco76
@willsco76 14 жыл бұрын
@whattheheack...I believe the gauges are blinking is the instruments are interferring with the computer. The audi r8 has all wheel drive.
@the13joker
@the13joker 14 жыл бұрын
Professional race car driver and champion Randy Pobst , thats who the hell he is. Its amazing how some people think they know better than professsional racecar drivers. Honesty is something everyone demands ,but few apreciates.
@grfurby
@grfurby 15 жыл бұрын
that's easy to say but very few people on this planet can push this beast to its limits.
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Wait to see what the new 2010 traction control does for the ZR1. I read the 599-with the enzo engine-was almost as fast as the enzo at the ring, which is barely faster the the ZR1, the carrera GT is slower, 430 scuderia is slower. So what you're saying is with their fancy transmission and mid-engine design these cars are still slower but some how better, oh yeah because the vette makes more power
@onlymoneyloves
@onlymoneyloves 12 жыл бұрын
let us remind you zr1 is 112k and beats cars far more expensive
@VeasnaKK
@VeasnaKK 15 жыл бұрын
Hell yes ZR1's are beasts
@mtooshort20
@mtooshort20 15 жыл бұрын
most supercharged V8's, no matter who the maker is, are gonna be a blast simply because of the surge of torque on the low end that feels almost heavenly. I have driven the new GT mustang and it is very well balanced compared to older models. But ive driven the Z06 and its built very well balanced in the since that a true sports car should be, only thing is, the amount of power in it, especially on low end makes it hard to keep traction, so its a similar comparison to the ZR1 i guess.
@shiftgood
@shiftgood 15 жыл бұрын
ZR1 finished 5 seconds ahead of the next fastest car.
@Top_Gear_Clips_Central
@Top_Gear_Clips_Central 9 ай бұрын
Just kinda shows how uncompetitive the field was for the ZR1
@jrs89
@jrs89 15 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Thank you for stating the truth that no one understands.
@MrYousafBajwa
@MrYousafBajwa 13 жыл бұрын
@whattheheack they're LEDs so the camera doesnt pick it up right same thing with older tvs they dont show up on cameras properly
@gmracing15
@gmracing15 15 жыл бұрын
@Tr3ySw4g excuse me but blue devil is the cars CODE NAME when it was under development. does not mean the color of the car though there are blue accents in the car on the badges and the brake calipers(in tirbute to the code name)
@MrSupersaiyangoku
@MrSupersaiyangoku 15 жыл бұрын
@CorvetteRacingFan You and me need to be freinds, seriously, i feel the same way, the corvette is for those who want a blast leaving people behind, keeping you on the edge like a roller coaster.
@gweggorz
@gweggorz 15 жыл бұрын
Yea I see what you mean. I was surprised at how good they can make the handling with a live axle.
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Remember GM makes enough hp with the Roots blower, If they were serious the would replace it with a lysholm or screw type. Similar but much more power top end power. PS when I talk about the negated boost issue I am referring to centrifugal not roots or twin screw. And as you can see with more displacement you don't need as much boost. Powerband refers to average power output and percentage of peak throught the band, not peak #'s, and not related to displacement.
@talonfast25
@talonfast25 15 жыл бұрын
Wow 5 sec faster than the R8. I want to see it against the Viper ACR and Nissan GTR.
@jonnyboym72
@jonnyboym72 15 жыл бұрын
dash lights blinking @ 3:30, whats the deal with that?
@RJBSPEED
@RJBSPEED 11 жыл бұрын
I need to wash laundry and take a shower...then take my corvette for a ride!!
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 7 жыл бұрын
I always do the same before i take my car for a ride :-) The only difference is that i do not own a vette :-(
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Yep, sure did and that's what was stated don't hate, look it up. As far as performance the mustang isn't too far off the M3, I agree in other catergories it is, hence half the price. Have you drive either? That old mustang was an absolute blast to drive.
@vedgardo
@vedgardo 14 жыл бұрын
@kippfan37 ...Audi is all wheel drive, corvette is rear wheel. huge difference on a track.
@sirmasdimitris
@sirmasdimitris 15 жыл бұрын
zr1 the king!!!!vette for ever..
@makattak88
@makattak88 13 жыл бұрын
@whattheheack This guy drives a lot of sport cars as fast as possible around laguna seca. i think he knows what he's talking about.
@elasdeases1
@elasdeases1 14 жыл бұрын
gotta say i love this corvettes chevy got it with this one this is another reason i want to become a powertrain engineer for chevrolet
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
The cranks i'm talking about are on the 1996 and new mod engines, the vette also has sleeved block and GM has pushrod engines with VVT, they just don't have it on the vette yet. Secondly, do you know anything about the suspension on the vette? You wouldn't think it so caveman if you did. Spastic 7.0 that runs 7k and was test to 8, was viewed as not needed for the price of the car, obviously the z06 performed well enough with out it.
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 15 жыл бұрын
the 911 will never be changed entirlye. which is why the carrera gt was such a treat for the porsche crowd. I feel caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the next vette. Chevy has never been a company to take risks always waiting for other to make moves then responding afterwords, never spearheading.lets hope the next vette will actually have original designwork and note of those lifted from other vehicles. we need a real hit vette to rival the 458 italia (in looks)
@R34GTRR35
@R34GTRR35 12 жыл бұрын
Porsche GT2 Nurburgring Lap Time 7:18 - Winner
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 13 жыл бұрын
95.8sec, what the hell. Why didn't you post the time as 1min 35.8sec like everyone else does?
@Godznrg4u
@Godznrg4u 14 жыл бұрын
This car rips !!! They need to put it on a track where it can really stretch it's legs. Laguna saca is a motorcycle track. No wonder the guy likes the audi on this slow track. Bring this bad boy to watkins gleen, limerock or mid ohio and you would really see what it can do.
@gen-X-trader
@gen-X-trader 5 күн бұрын
15 years and no one has questioned the tires? that looks like a normal PSS not the cup2 or cup2r a lot of the new trendy cars are running. would be fun to re run a stock c6 zr1 on some cup2 tires and see what kind of changes and improvements from that alone are found
@SuperColossal33
@SuperColossal33 14 жыл бұрын
@cryteeek a race tuned viper does, stock vette > stock viper
@martjul92
@martjul92 15 жыл бұрын
PD: whats with the board?
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Google 4.0 m3 dyno chart then in a second window google ls3 6.2 vette dyno chart. Flip back and forth and tell me again which has a better powerband. By broader do you mean longer total or longer usable? Everywhere the vette makes 100 more ft/lbs and more hp, obviously until 6400 where it redlines. You understand that you can add tq or rpm and increase hp, so what makes your way better? Also gearing can fix "short" powerbands.
@joshua626
@joshua626 14 жыл бұрын
@willsco76 No if you look at the camera it was flicking........ kinda. Its the camera trust me.
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
You know that Ford a really long time ago experimented with vvt, they used a pulley system that was controlled by oil pressure, it turned was a specific pressure was reached and altered the time, though it wasn't continuously variable. Advanced-like titanium lifters-vette and dual runner length intakes-ford focus, mustang. Funny the graph I saw peak was 235 at 5k, it was below 200 at 8k.
@EeekiE
@EeekiE 14 жыл бұрын
@Weazell It's easier to make a more powerful engine to mask deficiencies than it is to simply design a better platform to begin with.
@josephnelson2771
@josephnelson2771 13 жыл бұрын
best review on youtube!
@ghostswimmer923
@ghostswimmer923 15 жыл бұрын
Hell yea!
@fatpat81
@fatpat81 15 жыл бұрын
you can tell hes 100 % correct, look at his level on concentration when hes driving it. brutal car, defs a favourite
@marshknute
@marshknute 14 жыл бұрын
@greenryanEK It can take turns at high speeds too...mostly into trees.
@boogalice
@boogalice 15 жыл бұрын
aah, so what you're saying is that the Z-51 is actually a step above the base Corvette? I've never heard that before..
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
P.S. you realize pushrod engines are more compact and lighter than OHC right? And the vette engine is very light and compact for 6.2-7 liters, it weighs less than the m3's 4.0. Also, look at gm crate engines you can get 600+hp ls7's and 550hp ls3's with more aggressive cams and tuning. That would kind of kill mpg and emission's though. In fact a lot of racer prefer carbs to F.I.
@pilzerslang
@pilzerslang 12 жыл бұрын
@ronmann606 you completely missed the point, they were referring to other cars and i said i didnt care about his secondsbattle, but i doubted his quote that he could beat the other car with one hand on the weel. i just said the corvette isnt easy to drive, thats all :p
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Agreed the quality isn't as good but at 30K less, that can be over looked. Google 5.0 2010 mustang, Ford was testing it, some mag wrote about it. It was pre-production and wore good tires-more performance based than everyday use, but non-the-less turned the same time as the current m3. It also makes 412hp and does pretty well in all performance catergories considering it's 30k base price. If I had to pay I'd buy the Mustang, if not M3.
@decibelOW
@decibelOW 14 жыл бұрын
Im not really a big fan of american made cars but this sounds so beautiful
@gweggorz
@gweggorz 15 жыл бұрын
Yep. But I think the main reason why the Shelby was placed higher in this contest was because of the fact that it seemed more balanced and easier to drive than the ZR-1. He was saying how it was a very demanding car, and in another video he said that the Shelby was just a blast and that he didn't want to get out of it.
@lamboisking
@lamboisking 14 жыл бұрын
@whattheheack camera filming led makes that happen there not really flashing
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Like what is faster around the track? the Viper acr-good arguement.
@joshua626
@joshua626 14 жыл бұрын
Man you can look at the accerlation difference between all other cars. That thing is a monster, but compared to the euro sport cars they still got us beat as for as the handling goes. But still the Corvette Zr-1 still is the best bargain out their today.
@marshknute
@marshknute 13 жыл бұрын
@neerredd Don't get me wrong: The ZR1 is a fantastic car, and one which demonstrates to the rest of the world that Americans can not only build a supercar, but can do so for a fraction of the cost of a European supercar. The Corvette and the 5.0 Mustang are game changers. That said, the Corvette isn't as rewarding to drive as a Cayman or Miata. The Corvette was just not as fun to drive as the 5 cars that placed ahead of it in the competition, and a driver's car is judged by its fun factor.
@mtooshort20
@mtooshort20 15 жыл бұрын
true, i'll give u that. But of the cars that can actually be used day to day that are not only track supercars, The ZR1 is still on top. The Apollo S is a beast, but obviously you cant use it everyday, its a track car with a twin turbo 700hp Audi V8.
@truknayr23
@truknayr23 15 жыл бұрын
@frambesbuckeye another famous statement from Clarkson... "you need to be awake when you drive this one!" Cheers!!!!
@loudblazer
@loudblazer 14 жыл бұрын
@whattheheack I dont think you should even compare the v8 R8 and Zr1. Performance wise they arent even close. ZR1 competes with 599, Lp670, etc. Even the V10 R8 doesnt quite come close. V8 R8 and Zr1 are very close in price, but thats about it.
@talonfast25
@talonfast25 15 жыл бұрын
I read a review about the new Audi R8 with the v10 engine and they said it lost its magic and they prefer the v8 instead. It feels more heavier and it doesn't handle as well.
@semashow
@semashow 13 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, thanks for sharing.
@pilzerslang
@pilzerslang 12 жыл бұрын
@ronmann606 i dont care about the seconds, but a corvette with 1 hand on the wheel drinkin coffee... Its one of the hardest cars to drive
@SChaconJr
@SChaconJr 15 жыл бұрын
The ZR1 rules; it shines in every aspect; whomever doesn't agree is pretty ignorant, or biased; or both.
@vermt001
@vermt001 15 жыл бұрын
gotta love the vette
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Car and driver also did a little test of the best V8 and posted the weights of the ls3, and aston martin and and r8, ferrari left theres out, but guess what the vettes engine was the lights and biggest displacement, oh and by the way they posted a fuild filled weight of 435lbs, the 415 is for crate engines - oil. It's in print in more than one place, so unfortunately it isn't lighter by at least 65lbs, which is quite sad considering it's 2.2 liters smaller.
@rideredallday
@rideredallday 14 жыл бұрын
hahaha he sounded so shaken up after driving that thing.. im lookin for a vid where someone gives commentary during the drive but everyone is too busy holding on for dear life!
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
You are aware that GM had plans to mid-engine on the c7, they even said so themselves, but when they needed bailout funds they scraped the idea for the next vette. You also realize that the vette has an excellent powerband without all those gimmicks-which they can still add to that engine. By the way the ls7 is fairly easily modded to 650hp without F/I. and the lsx block can support 2500hp.
@sspope
@sspope 15 жыл бұрын
Where has this video come from. Says it was uploaded 5 days ago together with Camaro and 135i, but I didn't see it then and the oldest comment is 1 day old. Now, that's weird, very weird. oooo.OOOO
@Towelman20
@Towelman20 15 жыл бұрын
the zr1 never disapoints anyone.
@aluisious
@aluisious 12 жыл бұрын
"If ever a sports car needed no introduction, it's this one." Introduces car
@gweggorz
@gweggorz 15 жыл бұрын
I know. I think the driver mentioned how the R8 was more stable and balanced through the turns, and had less-mushy brakes; which I think will help the R8 do better.
@XxESKIMOxX
@XxESKIMOxX 15 жыл бұрын
yup i agree with you yet most of the people who comment or criticize these super car. zr1 is better then gtr and so on and they cant even afford one of these. they are both master piece considering the cost of owning one compared to lets say lambo or Ferrari and look and their ring time doesnt that tell you something. unlike other people i dont need some pride to run my mouth.
@JKFrazier
@JKFrazier 15 жыл бұрын
LOL some people aren't cut out for it. Us Corvette drivers are a little crazier than the rest.
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
Heard they're thinking of bringing back the split rear window for the C7. Sounds interesting.
@r3d_ti3_guy
@r3d_ti3_guy 5 жыл бұрын
gotmatt2 fast forward to 2019, it never happened.
@CoolBlueZR1
@CoolBlueZR1 15 жыл бұрын
Coolest Car Ever! *Hence my Name*
@stageman420
@stageman420 13 жыл бұрын
Best car made.
@frambesbuckeye
@frambesbuckeye 15 жыл бұрын
In the famous words of Clarkson: "If you overstep the boundaries one step.....It'll kill you!"
@HaykakanAper
@HaykakanAper 14 жыл бұрын
was 1:14 understeer?
@sspope
@sspope 15 жыл бұрын
V10 powered R8 perhaps? During testing it was spotted lapping the Nurburgring in 7:26
@frankburns8871
@frankburns8871 3 жыл бұрын
The mid-engine C8 is awesome, but it definitely lost some "soul" from previous generations. Just a whole different dynamic.
@Fancy_Boy
@Fancy_Boy 3 жыл бұрын
exactly... meaniest corvette ever, was all about performance and power. Guess that the market didn like it... this is why i think they change the "soul" of the vetts. Still my dream car!
@ShelbyDude1
@ShelbyDude1 13 жыл бұрын
WOW....nice car
@gotmatt2
@gotmatt2 14 жыл бұрын
In fact most six's weigh more than the ls series V8, notice I said LS not LT or any previous small block chevy. Hell the ls9 with a supercharger weighs just over 500lbs, do you realize how heavy an iron block is, have you picked up a piece of cast iron before? Now I realize many manufacturers are using alunimum, Look up Katech z06 and you'll see a vette with real springs, more power and lighter weight-and it's slower than the ZR1
@camirocz
@camirocz 14 жыл бұрын
@Acct1941 precisely because it is not a finesse car so what is your point?
@ebw16256
@ebw16256 15 жыл бұрын
the faces are great. lol. that car is crazy. super duper.
@joshua626
@joshua626 12 жыл бұрын
basically he said the he was scared of its power. Personally I would take a zo6 carbon edition, something about a 7.0L V8.
@ashleythompson3677
@ashleythompson3677 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he did the article even referenced its not that the car is to hard to for e it is that the corners come into play faster than he had seen before.
@20CorvetteZr109
@20CorvetteZr109 14 жыл бұрын
@Arai4lpinestars Thats right! im gonna have one in every color on the game! keep the blue stock, Blue Devil baby!
@mtooshort20
@mtooshort20 15 жыл бұрын
lol why not? im very curious to hear ur reasoning lol
@Thursday377
@Thursday377 15 жыл бұрын
i'm not too much of a vette fan but the ZR1 is sick.
@and2244rew
@and2244rew 15 жыл бұрын
I don't think any street car could beat the vette by 10sec. As for the evo, you'd be suprised how much more there is to it than that. Anyone can skrew horsepower out of an engine (pull the pin and hope for the best!!). The hard and expensive part is getting the rest of the car to handle it. I've seen sti and evo tuners that can hang with ZR1s and Vipers. They are awesome cars but they cost about the same as the ZR1.
@Nick1944
@Nick1944 15 жыл бұрын
0:55 that bug is on the ride of his life! lol
@Spideynw
@Spideynw 15 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@MrSupersaiyangoku
@MrSupersaiyangoku 15 жыл бұрын
@CorvetteRacingFan YES!!! Man where have you been all my life??? lol,
@mercracer24
@mercracer24 15 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the z51 is the base vette's higher performance suspension pack. It ranks above stock and below z06
@kong6x3
@kong6x3 15 жыл бұрын
yea I have to say that guys needs to grow some____ I agree with ronman record breaking times arn't supose to be sunday drives the gtr is good but if you want a real car to talk about"besides the zr1" wait for the spec v but if you cant within 5 seconds of car in a 100 second race your not in the same class
@Stathubious
@Stathubious 15 жыл бұрын
This one has a huge horse power!!!MUSCLE!!
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