twisted treeline was legit, I was sad to see it was gone when I came back like 8 years later XD
@senegalus7 ай бұрын
was amazing, would love getting it back
@soer71407 ай бұрын
Old twisted treeline tho, the rework was meh
@zodrickzheioh73187 ай бұрын
@@soer7140 oh? was there a rework, I stopped playing for like 7 years after season 3 so I only remember the old one.
@soer71407 ай бұрын
@@zodrickzheioh7318 They made it with altars and no top jungle, only a big boss mob, it was trash compared to the OG one
@zodrickzheioh73187 ай бұрын
@@soer7140 ouch. that is pretty lame, what a shame
@asadraneymusic7 ай бұрын
34:21 Zwag accidentally sings the first 5 notes of a C major scale lol
@sergioramirez9787 ай бұрын
So basically torch is old Lyandry’s and new Liandrys is old Demonic minus the ap scaling
@arthurreede44787 ай бұрын
Plus 20% AP tho so might be even better ap scaling
@luanneirendern67297 ай бұрын
Day 1 of asking for a dickpic. 🎉😊
@NeuviletteBR7 ай бұрын
Not really, lyandris is old lyandris again, and blackfire is what new lyandris was. Lyandris was always a hp ap item that give the burn but not the mana, they changed it when the mytics came, and now they are reverting it
@DjDoCDeS7 ай бұрын
Shaco not knowing what twisted treeline is 😭
@spencesir7 ай бұрын
bro was sniping fr
@josephbolton58937 ай бұрын
no, he knows. He clearly stated that Twisted Fate is Twisted Treeline. Which is the correct answer of course.
@Grazin13377 ай бұрын
Bring back twisted treeline and make it ranked
@spiritbomber93597 ай бұрын
@@bookedchimera I pretty regularly play in a three stack so TT coming back would actually make me happy
@normanderi7 ай бұрын
@@bookedchimera my guy, im gonna be clear with you, you dont even know how big the community was, TT was loved, more than SR, but riot pushed people into 5v5 ranked, mainly because for the longest time riot didnt balance TT, it was the same stats as SR, not only that when they wanted to save TT it was already late, between ranked being the main focus and people already were in groups of more than 3 TT wasn't recoverable, but almost everyone who played it(and let me tell you, many people didnt even try it, i know a couple of people who played back then and never wanted to even try it) preferred it to SR...
@EeveeRealSenpai7 ай бұрын
I would definitely not play it 👍
@antondavak5537 ай бұрын
Loved twisted treeline
@bossnonlinonliyoyo7 ай бұрын
7:05 That Briar probablly ulted that way because her cursor was on her minimap while trying to aim at you
@xOnTheBrinkx7 ай бұрын
No, I was aiming for bot lane
@bossnonlinonliyoyo7 ай бұрын
@@xOnTheBrinkx If it's really you, I have so much questions
@xOnTheBrinkx7 ай бұрын
@@bossnonlinonliyoyo Like what?
@marinebean4207 ай бұрын
I miss Twisted Tree Line. Thanks for the content, Zwag.
@martinibarra.ok167 ай бұрын
"have fun with the burns" BAHAHAHAH got me rolling
@ReaperPR1947 ай бұрын
Day 8 of thanking Zwag for his content. 🫡
@russellminard25787 ай бұрын
Day 1 of thanking the guy who thanks zwag for his content
@Jeresi7o7 ай бұрын
Day 1 of thanking the guy that thanks the guy who thanks zwag for his content
@je4257 ай бұрын
Day 1 of telling the dude he's a simp
@goliathmonster9747 ай бұрын
Day 1
@e.j39167 ай бұрын
Yeah thank god zwag goes into silver games and ruins peoples day.
@xOnTheBrinkx7 ай бұрын
I have to admit the jump at 24:50 was not planned, but I was waiting in the fog of war there at the red side raptors for Zwag to use his blind. I'm thankful the Ezreal jumped in when he did.
@ps7ykLiTT6 ай бұрын
Deathfire Grasp was my favorite SR item back when AP Trist mid was a thing. Just DFG in mid-air right before you land on them and watch them disappear. Ah the good ol' days. Blackfire Torch was a TT-only item that was similar to DFG in the same manner that Wooglet's Deathcap was similar to Rabadon's. EDIT: Yeah the item equivalents between SR and TT were Blackfire Torch - Deathfire Grasp, Wooglet's Witchcrown - Rabadon's Deathcap + Zhonyas Hourglass
@nicholasthoelke47687 ай бұрын
The couple of champions that come to my mind for the new quickblades are lucian and caitlyn, and maybe varus. Even so, having some AD would make the item a lot more usable
@Shadowknight12247 ай бұрын
I think the flickerblade is designed for Sivir: she uses the attackspeed, AD and crit, and she can take advantage of the cooldown reduction on her E since it's free and on her W since it's her main DPS ability.
@Bonyony7 ай бұрын
Not the shaco listening to you're stream 😭
@aljoker78087 ай бұрын
Since those burn items have so much mana, would that be good for Ryze?
@Firestrait7 ай бұрын
I bet flickblades were designed by a Sivir main since the icon is her weapon and she's a crit speed caster type adc
@braderbell68143 ай бұрын
Twisted treeline was the gamemode I used to play when I had no idea how the game worked!
@nytrobomb39717 ай бұрын
How to apply 7 DoT's at once as Teemo: Items you need: Malignance Liandry's Blackfire Torch Shadowflame Yun Tal Wildarrows Sundered Sky Strategy: Throw down a Shroom Wait for someone to step on Shroom Shroom procs Malignance, Liandry's, Blackfire Torch, and it's own burn auto attack once for E passive and Sundered Sky Crit Sundered Sky procs burn from Yun Tal Wildarrows Ignite after auto for 7th and final DoT
@guifdcanalli7 ай бұрын
Im more worried with wathever is that madhouse happening at botlane, jhin with zephyr looks disgusting
@Sterage19847 ай бұрын
I reckon the flicker blade will be real good in character like Jax. Having his leap and spinny block staff up alot would be brutal.
@elijahwalker66207 ай бұрын
See, I wasn’t excited about the brand, but this, this brings me joy
@poopyfartballs53637 ай бұрын
How
@peytonengland40867 ай бұрын
Hey that Shaco player is pretty good
@spencesir7 ай бұрын
blud is sniping fr 💀💀💀
@peytonengland40867 ай бұрын
@@spencesir It was a pbe game we were all viewers hehe
@spencesir7 ай бұрын
@@peytonengland4086 ohhhhhhhh
@spacedemon89737 ай бұрын
The moment you mentioned Twisted Treeline you unlocked a memory I forgot I had...
@HildagardeGaming7 ай бұрын
Would Blackfire Torch work with Twitch's passive?
@XCrack117 ай бұрын
You got me at twisted treeline
@天使霜7 ай бұрын
when you said "who in the jungle would build this item" and all i can think is "MORGANA JG IS BAAAAAAACK"
@Daniel-dz2pj7 ай бұрын
@28:22 "why's this guy so tanky" as zwag casually shaves off 70% of his hp
@TheArenaGod7 ай бұрын
Any updates on your analytics?
@dan-qw2rn7 ай бұрын
its crazy seeing old twisted tree line items come back like bloodmail and blackfire
@gearsenshi64987 ай бұрын
What about Rumble with the new burn items? Any good?
@illuminarygeostryke7657 ай бұрын
Hya, speaking of the Overlord's Bloodmail, isn't Garen also AD?
@natedaniels36557 ай бұрын
New Zwag lore just dropped!
@Jay_EdwardS7 ай бұрын
New Navori item with Essence Reaver sounds like it would make a really fun Vayne build.
@TheGreyestOfGons7 ай бұрын
You already know teemo got something cooking up inside that space suit
@naikus3d7 ай бұрын
5:36 Lillia would use this item in the jungle quite well. Karthus and Morg too
@justinroylance49417 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
@TheFixer7107 ай бұрын
I think black torch was like DFG where you activated it on a target then they got really weak to abilities from you for a couple seconds
@aaronlarsen46747 ай бұрын
How will hurricane and essence rever interact? I could go and find that out myself but I would rather not
@brackpin7 ай бұрын
I miss my days as teemo. I used to drop shrooms EVERWHAR. If i didn't have at least half the map shroomed I was slacking. I quit lol for awhile when the shroom nerf happened.
@justinc_96237 ай бұрын
Twisted treeline was there for a little bit when I first started league. I had no idea what was going on yet tho
@pbandslay95407 ай бұрын
5:45 I was thinking morgana jungle potentially
@Juicyuu7 ай бұрын
Brand and malzahar are menaces with this item. We r fked
@ataxias81837 ай бұрын
bet that blackfire would be good on malz :)
@joeclare13447 ай бұрын
wonder how well 4% AP burn ratio works with Veigar passive. Obviously not alot but its better then 1% the previous burn effect had.
@karleejoe88197 ай бұрын
Lilia jungle might build it?
@MAZerath7 ай бұрын
5:38 This item is a Lillia and Brand Jungle incognito buff
@SyckestBlah7 ай бұрын
So, at the time you got the Torch, Hwei had 1380 max hp, which means Liandry's would have dealt around 27 damage per second as well, while also giving another 6% increased damage, and providing health for survivability. I feel like Torch needs a bit more flat damage, to be honest, or Liandry's a bit less scaling. Logistically, a flat amount DoT should be stronger when acquired early, whereas a scaling DoT should be stronger later in the game.
@SilverLicas177 ай бұрын
Do still Navori's not stack with IE? Maybe crit Briar is possible, with Navori's, Phantom Dancer, Shieldbow, armor pen item and Bloodthirster...
@fadhilyudistira88197 ай бұрын
shaco, teemo, jhin... that's 3 madmen in a team, I'm surprised the enemy team doesn't ff early.
@artyCynabal7 ай бұрын
Please try the new burn item with AP Yorick - along with Liandry's and Malignance. Let Maiden cook!
@ryanformoso78137 ай бұрын
how come i dont see blackfire torch in game yet?
@xXluckyjoe7Xx7 ай бұрын
“I wonder who in the jg would build that” as there’s a shaco jg in the game with him lol
@BillBitGaming7 ай бұрын
Reaver would be cool on nasus, if you have low mana, you can always use Q
@jd161_7 ай бұрын
Is there any champ zeag hasnt played yet on yt?
@НикитаЧупраков-ж8д7 ай бұрын
Waiting for malza. His megaburn e for sure megahurts
@evtimbitrakov76347 ай бұрын
Bumping for Zwag bringing twisted treeline back!
@Obsdragon7 ай бұрын
Riots adding all these Twisted Treeline items to PBE... Are they trying to tease something? Definitely not coping...
@spiritbomber93597 ай бұрын
Dude I wish 😔
@kpny84847 ай бұрын
7:32 Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long, time.
@nklinef7 ай бұрын
It could be an interesting item for Malphite, ult in on 5 people, then your W and E hit like a truck!
@johnlaroche26437 ай бұрын
DO these new items show up only in rank because I have not seen any yet ?
@isaac_marcus7 ай бұрын
They're on the PBE
@ironbliss87 ай бұрын
Is this pre or regular
@TaffTheWanderer7 ай бұрын
TT was where it was at! I loved running threes!
@magnusm47 ай бұрын
I wish games copied LoL and WoW's art style. 22:08 LOOK at the dragon's den! It looks so damn good. The colors, emission colors, the shading and the amazing SFX artists doing effects. I don't care if it's a ripoff if it looks that good.
@graysonrowe97807 ай бұрын
Try the full ap jhin build with this item!
@wrinkmd7 ай бұрын
When do we get these new items ?
@kokushogames32837 ай бұрын
New quickblades might be good with fiora
@kimka6667 ай бұрын
what is that item ? i dont have any torch in shop
@S_oX_x7 ай бұрын
What about a hybrid teemo, AD burn and AP burn?
@picklesthehobo61737 ай бұрын
trist will build quick blades maybe sivir?
@lindwurm59767 ай бұрын
Blackfire Torch was the Twistet Treeline version of DFG
@clintongriffin20777 ай бұрын
That jhin? Chefboii is that taco?
@fruicyjuit62437 ай бұрын
You think fiddle sticks jungle with the item will be good?
@Juicyuu7 ай бұрын
The item is good with every jungler, it’s a burn that does extra dmg to jungle monsters
@fruicyjuit62437 ай бұрын
@@Juicyuuno
@takeshi10977 ай бұрын
Can u play zyra with the new item?
@coreano12197 ай бұрын
what's the highest amount of burns you can have now? even if it's not good
@Darklordiban77 ай бұрын
Wonder if Leona could take enough advantage of Flickerblade for it to be worth it. Even if it's about as good as building haste then she could probably work a zero haste build, allowing her to build other stats.
@Mugi-v7w7 ай бұрын
Black fire into malignance then deathcap seems super op
@roastbeefguy7 ай бұрын
I could see some assassins wanting to build new quickblades. Or even some crit based ranged adc’s. I mean, think of jinx just spamming her traps and zapper. Or maybe even Kayle? It’s definitely not a first item or second item, but maybe third or fourth? Sure thing.
@roastbeefguy7 ай бұрын
Master Yi could just permanently be in The Between Space with his Q 😂
@safehouse4327 ай бұрын
I dont think quick blades needs to be a crit item since they removed the bonus ability damage crit scaling and that all full crit items gives 25% crit making it ad and atkspd would make it more flexible for non crit builds and a good situational 4/5th item.
@sheldonkelly78457 ай бұрын
Anyone have issues with the vanguard update thing?? I don’t have a tpm in my computer and have to buy one just to play it.
@TheJj453087 ай бұрын
if that torch scales with AP, imagine the damage the burns do with veigar
@blurpleshark7 ай бұрын
I'm excited for the new quickblades
@eclipzenic53717 ай бұрын
I just realized with that much mana you could build the item that gives you ap scaling with mana (I forgot tha name)
@brlegio7 ай бұрын
I guess it would be nice the triple burn items with the collector and morello 😍
@palomasanchez-jauregui19557 ай бұрын
“Can we get a like for twisted treeline?” Proceeds to 👍
@joelaguilo88157 ай бұрын
singed with new burn item?
@thatgreenguy39697 ай бұрын
Should get seraphs with that mana. Big shield and AP on mana scale. Like a 700 HP shield and like 40 extra AP
@NeuroNinjaAlexander7 ай бұрын
Tryn, possibly the windshitters and maybe Kaisa are the only champs I can think of that would like flickerblade
@mixedmex17 ай бұрын
ZWAG!! Do a shotgun sona build again!!
@OfficialAnekito7 ай бұрын
Bring bacl Twisted Treeline
@azleazz7 ай бұрын
I miss twisted treeline. Still have the 2013 Vilemaw as my icon😢
@xdarkvendrickx35107 ай бұрын
Its now in game ?
@xOnTheBrinkx7 ай бұрын
This was on pbe
@windanger20237 ай бұрын
if you have the support item you can convert it to the 4th burn item.
@Ptrixie7 ай бұрын
Man i miss twisted treeline, the map was so cool. im still pissed riot got rid of it
@skylargray80477 ай бұрын
Bet new burn item would work awesome on jg amumu
@tanner.quintero7 ай бұрын
How about 3 burn items + RoA + Seraphim to do some use to that Mana
@Majael7 ай бұрын
Maybe try some Quickblades Sivir? It works excelent with her ult passive. And you can throw hundreds of boomerangs :D
@senhan21597 ай бұрын
Its 10 min in, and I haven't seen any corner shooms. Also RIP Twisted Treeline.
@arcdraconis95797 ай бұрын
This feels like it's going to be good for sols
@isaiahbratton745 ай бұрын
Bro they don’t know anything about twisted treeline days !!! Ugh as a season 1 vet I miss the good days
@mikemcelveen7 ай бұрын
Teemo support with 5x burns?
@WhiteMucci7 ай бұрын
Thats the first Like on a youtube video in 15 years I've given.... better get Twisted Treeline back asap 👌