2023 Porsche GT4 RS Review - Can The Cayman Get Any Better?

[@86drive86]

For $149K it's an amazing car at a bargain, for $176K (with Weissach) it's still good, but for $250K (after markup) ... can't forget this is a car that started from a $65K base Cayman. At that higher price point, I'd probably be cross-shopping at least a GT3 and maybe other exotics.

[@Zygrene]

Agree that 250k is steep for a Porsche with strut F/R suspension

[@James-wg8mn]

Just wanted to say that if I saw this on the road, I would assume that it's a 50K car. This is one of the most niche market prices I've ever seen.

[@86drive86]

@@James-wg8mn That is both the blessing and the curse of Porsches... their styling is generally understated and elegant (compared to the usual exotic car brands), and depending on whether you're an average guy or gal on the street, or a hard core enthusiast, their $250K car can look like a $50K car, or the other way around. Enthusiasts will usually see the extra CF, aero bits and other tell tale signs that you're looking at a higher end Porsche. But for someone who wants to fly under the radar so to speak, Porsches are kind of the best choice. If you WANT most people to know you paid $200K+ for a car, this is probably not the right one...

[@stavroseconomopoulos4180]

$250k for a Cayman…people are out of their minds lol.

[@reclose5217]

@@stavroseconomopoulos4180 fr its a great car but no way im taking it over a previous gen gt3rs

[@Unicornpirate]

You don't need a double wishbone front in this. Misha Charoudin did a review of the SSR Performance GT$RS around the ring which has coilovers and a front aero duct and bigger wing and that fixed the feel of the front end he said. Manthey Racing also runs their cars with coilovers and there is no complaints for no double wishbone front from them. Same with Dundon Racing running MCS.

[@Zygrene]

Interesting, good to know the aftermarket can fix it

[@Chilicharger665]

Double wishbone is better, period.

[@lilbza1]

​@@Chilicharger665and double wishbone didn't exist in Porsches until the 992 GT3... weirdly I didn't hear anyone crying about it in previous model GT3/3Rs, GT2RS etc. Seems now everyone be like "bUt iT dOeSnT hAvE dOuBlE WisHbOnE sUsPeNsIoN" usually being parroted by peanuts that haven't driven a 992 GT3 or GT4RS.

[@FreestylerAlbert]

I've ordered a Spyder RS next to my NSX. Can't freakin wait to get it! (BTW racing drives complain about the front grip of the GT4RS, and the way too assisted steering)

[@Zygrene]

Dream garage! I think the steering feels great at canyon speeds.

[@IS300Spartan]

Now you gotta compare the craziest balls to the wall track S2000 against this beast. 9000 RPM battle for the craziest track rat toy money can buy!

[@CubanDre]

You were absolutely flying in this canyon. It looked like you hit triple digits several times. Some of those corners looked high double digits. Insane

[@johnmitchell2269]

And this is why, so many car manufacturers dont even bother doing mid engine sports cars. Because they know it wont be able to compete or compare with stuff like this. Its one reason why I respect Lotus so much. Because they always have done and always will do proper sports cars. They don't care how good the Porsche ones are.

[@exa4003]

Unfortunately it seems Lotus will not do proper sports cars anymore. Geely has a different vision for the brand :/

[@quincytambo4403]

you're livin the dream my friend. You get to drive those amazing cars

[@racsowang]

Nice review! 4RS is a very capable car with great sound. Suspension wise, it hops more than the 991.2 GT3. I just wish it offers a close-ration 6MT.

[@brianhimmelman420]

what would u do to help the hops 991.2 GT3 ? thanks

[@yourmommashouse]

@@brianhimmelman420what do you mean by hops?

[@bobbykhan5787]

You should have more viewers/subscribers. Great content and review style

[@kimnotking9742]

What a car what a sound ! Omg Never thought gt4rs white color was that beautiful before, normally saw yellow or grey and black

[@jacebeleren429]

A lot of why this accelerates so well is that rear mid engine puts that weight over the tires on a rwd car.

[@jacebeleren429]

@@BitcoinTo100K Everyone knows this and no sense in talking about it for the 9 millionth time.

[@jacebeleren429]

@@BitcoinTo100K Well he didn’t mention it in the video, so I thought I would mention it. I am not talking shit to you or about your comment. Just saying the EV acceleration vs ICE is super played out. I can though, for example; Tesla’s are boring, one trick pony shtboxes and comparing a model 3 to a RS Porsche is a tired played out boring boring conversation. You want a Tesla go for it. Don’t care.

[@clu4u]

@@jacebeleren429You don’t know shit about cars, my Tesla kicks ass over whatever POS your mother gave you to drive. Oh, also have a 981 Spyder.

[@Shawnraines]

I cannot get over the side window induction and noise. Its probably the best sounding car in our lifetime.

[@Nord_Mann]

Definitely ❤

[@jubbalandcars]

My guy 👏🏼

[@bootneck401664]

I own a 718 GT4 with an aftermarket exhaust and it sounds great, my mate has a GT4RS and when he took me out in it I must could not stop laughing and giggling like a little girl 😂😂 I got out of that car with a feeling I’ve never experienced from any other car and I include in that Mclaren, Ferraris and even the Lambo I had. This GT4RS is just something else, it’s beyond intoxicating.

[@paintballplayer700]

I have one and this comment nails it (I know it's an older video). Driving it, I genuinely couldn't care less that a 992 GT3 is 6 seconds faster around the Nurburgring. The visceral 9000rpm howl of that flat 6 coming through the airbox 4" behind your skull is like no other car I've been in. It puts a huge shit-eating grin on the face of everyone who experiences it, and it makes you feel like a driving god even when you're doing 60mph in 2nd.

[@bootneck401664]

@@paintballplayer700 😆😆😆😆 exactly mate 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I also had to get one after going out in my mates, it’s just absolutely insane to rip throughout the higher Rev range 😀

[@thedamonlowney]

Great review! You summed up what I felt the first time I drove one. Hope I can drive one again.

[@Pogona2011]

Incredible car. It''s great seeing that particular road. My Integra loves it btw! I love how you describe the finer details of the driving experience-

[@IS300Spartan]

I put on headphones just for this video. Wow…

[@Zygrene]

My trusty GoPro Hero 8 mic doing its job!

[@vivekh7662]

You can get an adapter for the seats to raise the front end of the seats a bit and give it a little more recline.

[@Zygrene]

The first mod I'd do to my imaginary 4RS

[@F22dtmer]

“Porsche…there is no substitute.”

[@Obeli.sk6]

Ohhhh so much fun 🖤 Thank you 💗

[@VK6AB-]

Very interesting review - Hi-Fidelity is a great descriptor for any RS. The 4RS is outstanding, not perfect, but therein is its magic. Much prefer it over the 992 GT3 and 992 GT3 RS. Don't get over sold on the strut/double wishbone debate, honestly, real world it only matters at the limit.

[@onlinesearch4134]

Can’t wait for that comparison. One of those cars is my next buy.

[@kythai3105]

Great review! I would love to see you review the 2022 Acura NSX Type S.

[@Sun-ku7jx]

That shirt goes so hard, man of culture!

[@mickpdxc.3864]

Which road is this it looks massively fun please share

[@patrickbateman7122]

I've been passenger in an F50 and the sound isn't close. Best sounding car I've heard in my life with the v12 block being derived from their F1 car..

[@Zygrene]

I've yet to experience a mid engine V12 (or even V8) Ferrari. Hopefully that'll change soon.

[@patrickbateman7122]

@@Zygrene you would love it!! This sounds a lot bette than most cars but you can't compare an F1 derived v12 to a flat 6 imo..

[@johnmitchell2269]

Bit unfair to compare a V12 supercar with a flat six sports car. IMO the F12 tdf is the best sounding car.

[@patrickbateman7122]

@@johnmitchell2269 yeah spose it is really...🤣🤦‍♂️

[@lordmaster5522]

F12 tdf or F50 doesn’t hold a candle next to the GMA T50 or Valkyrie V12 revving at 12,000 RPM

[@albertofigueroa2461]

Sound amazing❤

[@Patrick-bu5vy]

Great review.....what a machine!

[@boris9331]

@Zygrene - at the pull at 3:20, is the exhaust on quiet or sport mode?

[@ricepony33]

Imagine this stripped out as a racecar @2900lbs with Hoosiers.

[@waltvancourt5052]

All inside the cabin intake noise, but what about from outside and the exhaust sound from the muffler ?

[@Poorschedriver]

The one thing Porsche does better than anyone else is deliver a car that makes you feel like you're driving a racecar, whilst not having it suck. Racecars suck on the street, but they have the perfect blend of creature comfort and lunacy that has really allowed them to corner the market. The shame of the whole thing is that this formula has really only been around for a little more than a decade, yet the EV future has already sealed the fate of these wonderful ICE experiences. Is it worth $225k-$250k? That a question better left answered in 10-20 years...

[@geraldupright7713]

No sport Chrono?

[@cben86]

Your daily driver?

[@Zygrene]

I wish!

[@kyolml]

I actually think it's maybe a tad too loud for my taste, my ear is ringing after a short drive. I think I am either getting old I am actually prefer the GT3 RS noise a little better because I can hear the nuance with quality this one the volume is at 11 some definition just lost to the loudness from my ear....

[@billnorblat4047]

Just needs more camber for track

[@boris9331]

Is it even possible to say, custom make double wishbones for the GT4 RS? e.g they say because the GT4 RS is a smaller car it's physically not possible to implement the aspects of the suspension that the GT3 has? thoughts?

[@_Suzuka_Joe]

I rode in one of these this past weekend and gotta say it ruined my 981 GT4 ownership a little bit

[@kgthegreatone943]

My favorite Porsche

[@thebigos1]

In your last GT4 review, you said the car felt sterile when driving normally. I totally agree with your statement that unless you are on track or doing very illegal speeds on the road, it isn't that exciting. How does the gt4 rs compare? Is it fun at normal speeds too?

[@tomjones5166]

You can see from his review that he is having most of his excitement/fun with the GT4 RS by pushing it hard towards redline in each gear at over 100mph to get an adrenaline rush. It’s normally more fun to drive a slower car fast then a fast car slow on the street. Given the GT4 RS has stiffer springs and more tire noise that should make it much less sterile feeling during normal driving. I think a GT4 RS is an extremely special car, so one should be excited and have fun just driving it at legal speeds.

[@thebigos1]

@@tomjones5166 I would agree from the video he seems to be having a lot of fun but like you said, he is going pretty quick on public roads. I'm interested to hear his comparison of the gt4 and RS daily driving it. All the gt4 reviews before said it was such a hardcore car that is impossible to drive daily. I personally totally disagree with most reviews and the gt4 is easy to daily and is very tame when driving normally. I own a 2005 RSX also and that is a blast to drive around town (slow cars driven fast are fun 😊)

[@Zygrene]

@@thebigos1 the regular 718 GT4 felt a bit "compromised" in terms of driving dynamics, which almost feels wrong to say, given how capable on track it is. It really needs to be pushed hard to come alive. In contrast, the 4RS is far more visceral even at 5/10ths due to the suspension, engine response/sound, and short gearing. It's more exciting at all speeds.

[@thebigos1]

@@Zygrene hope you do a side by side comparison video one day!

[@IssaSaabStory95]

Was this video recorded before your experience with the Ariel Atom??

[@Zygrene]

I filmed this after. I ranked the Atom higher than the 991.2 GT3 but not because it's the "better" car. Just more exciting.

[@Nord_Mann]

It’s the most fun car on sale today. GT3 & GT3RS is nowhere close to offer the same entertainment.

[@brianhimmelman420]

what is the entertainment? intake sound

[@nightend3904]

in usa it starts at 164k$ without weissach and with its 194k$ where are u getting ur prices from? -_-

[@modrn_]

Anyone tripping about the cost has honestly never owned a Porsche, let alone one like this. Yeah, the base car is $65k, but this ISN'T the base car. Not even close. I own a 718 GTS 4.0, and I would gladly upgrade and pay for this if I had the money.

[@touayaaj84]

I’ll get the emira for quarter the price

[@Sayu2x]

my dream car :D

[@MrRoyck10]

Own Porsche or at least die trying, it’s worth every single penny to hear the sound of BoxEngine above 4k rpm.

[@finngerbangh1836]

"When I start pushing it on this canyon road." LOL What a joke.

[@Leowavekid]

Answer to you heading: YES …. out of the box handling and stability are somewhat compromised … it is kind of a scary /nervous car ! Sound is beyond anything else i have experienced!

[@DarkTouch]

ACtive aero/drs?

[@billnorblat4047]

Starts at $161k now

[@rockenracing1996]

pure bliss!

[@NitroAdventure]

How does it compare to the Integra

[@Zygrene]

Integra is much more girlfriend friendly 🙃

[@franko8572]

His arm tattoo says “I love chicken tender” in Japanese.

[@ernesternest815]

Amazing car, who would not want one, but to be honest, my base 981 for 48k provides a very similar experience on the street.

[@falcaofalcao528]

Definitely not even close to the same experience lmao

[@ernesternest815]

@@falcaofalcao528 talking about on streets with other drivers where you can only go so fast, the fun factor is pretty much the same. Not talking numbers. My BRZ is almost as much fun, except for the sound.

[@hasonlavajunk9774]

Still has a physical key?

[@Zygrene]

Yup, bit surprisingly for a $170k+ car

[@alancheung9403]

that is old school, but I like it.

[@ChrisJones-yh2os]

I wish I could afford this car

[@Zygrene]

Don't we all 😂

[@st5637]

Porsche hobble the exhaust, if you put in the fab speed one it would be way cooler!

[@nickviet9274]

I’ll take it with a real manual (no pun intended)

[@d.nakamura9579]

Can’t imagine going all in this car with the Weissach package and not getting PCCB.

[@racsowang]

Blame Weissach for the supply issue.

[@Zygrene]

For a road car I'd probably want PCCB but for track I'd stick with the base brakes

[@AllanCuttingedge]

Sorry but why? Don't you get easily over heated with these base brakes? @@Zygrene 🤔🤔

[@BRAINFxck10]

Also it doesn’t have the magnesium wheels, the Weissach pack deserves the lightest wheels plus they look so good finished in satin indigo blue very exotic looking, these standard wheels in black look a bit ugly imo.

[@IS300Spartan]

@@AllanCuttingedge They’re like 5 times less expensive to replace, that’s the only reason. And you’re gonna be going through them somewhat often on track. Replacing 20k brakes as a wear item probably doesn’t feel too good. Also, the steels WILL overheat faster than the ceramics yes, but let’s not forget they’re still probably the best normal brakes money can buy.

[@Pwr404]

The way they designed the shifter is just lame.

[@Zygrene]

It's a bit misleading but I don't mind it. Still has a nice feel.

[@andresmattos7541]

Perfected and overpriced as well.

[@billnorblat4047]

The one I have on order stickered at $241,100.

[@Pogona2011]

Ho-li-crap