The first CD I ever owned was The Young and The Hopeless. I don't listen to them as much as I used to (on repeat), but I still listen to CoLD from time to time. Definitely a major influence on my early music interest!

Descendants are still and always will be on the short list of my must go with me wherever I go bands, that are on my phone (to hell with radio). Grew up with them (as well as so many bands that I discovered in my mothers record collection like Hendrix, Joplin, Billy Joel, ELO, The Beatles, etc.). My first 3 records were Men At Work Business as Usual, Blondie Autoamerican and Smurfin Sing Song (I was still pretty young at 7 years old). Then the people who were renting downstairs introduced me to Pink Floyd and Flash in the Pan, later that year my mothers boyfriend (while 4x4ing in his rear wheel drive Chevy Boogie van, wood panelling and all), pushed in a tape and Gallow's Pole started playing, my life was never the same again. I started playing guitar in 1990 so I was a bit late to the party but hey... I still got on the stage in a few different bands, even got to headline The Live Wire before it finally closed down (a total dive bar but a sort of badge of honour for anyone who got to play there). As the only guitar player in a trio at one point (called Water) I remember how it felt to be on stage, that has always stuck with me, I can understand what Milo went through as well. Of course the bands I was in never really went anywhere but it was a great time in my life singing and writing about chix, partying and other stuff. Calgary had a pretty great live music scene then, very diverse but bands like Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, etc., were gaining alot of traction and changing music for the better. I still remember being at a gig at Houndsfield Heights (enjoying the mosh pit when it was still about camaraderie and cohesiveness rather than punishing the guy beside you) and hearing about this new band Nirvana that would be in Calgary on their Bleach tour. Music is a daily part of my life, I could not function without it. Thanks so much to channels like this or sites like bandcamp who do their best to keep the history of what we grew up with alive and still give the little fish a chance to swim.

Potential subjects, Dead milkmen, Queens of the Stone Age,

I think he got to know how good is is, and how much admired and loved he is in the end.

MInor Threat and Dischord were a HUGE influence on NYHC, Bad Brains too, I was there during that whole period, and between them and The Misfits, and then Kraut, that was the bigger scene at the time.

I saw Bad Brains Live here in NYC when they lived in the Lower East Side .I saw them at CBGBs and the Peppermint Lounge. ..saw them in person about 8 times I think

Show was cool bro 👍👍👍

Great video! I actually love all your videos so thank you. You should make a video about Sebadoh. There’s not enough videos on them. Especially the early years.

Do a video on The Raunchettes !

Overrated band. Some.good riffs. Both Harley and John's vocals are horrible and irritating. Both John and Harley are dirtbag scammers

cool very informative, I remember hearing about them when I was a teenager but it wasn't my scene, I heard of John Joseph the first time from Brian Rose and they did the film Ironmind together which I really enjoyed and recommend

John sounds like a fibber

Very good.

How bout some music?

Parris Mayhew created the Cro-Mags music. Not Harley Flanagan. Harley took it all in a lawsuit against the others, after trying to stab and kill them at a show....yeah, real hero.

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You probably already know this, but while Jerry was in the numbers band, there was another member by the name of Terry Hynde. Terry‘s little sister would hang out sometimes. her name was Chrissy and she went on to become more famous than even Devo.

WTF is going on with the hair?!

Raybeez @ 21:50 <3

LOVE JJ. Big fan of Cro Mags AND Blodclot. John has ALWAYS been good to me. Could honestly care less about this fued anymore. I think both men are doing their thing now and living their vision of PMA. All that counts.

This vid should have been at least an hour long. damn good!

Stoked for this. I've always wanted to know this band's story. Harmony Korine should direct the movie.

great Minutemen shit btw! 🤘

Harley won the court case for the name and is still releasing albums as the Cro-mags

JJ is the biggest clown in the world DNF.

One more thing: White D*V*L was before the revenge album. Parris and Harley started WD, and while on tour in I think Europe they realized that all the promoters were using the term CroMags, so they decided to call that band CroMags as well. Then the revenge album came out.

I don’t mean to be critical but your video should really include the original version of Age of Quarrel that the band recorded and released themselves on cassette. Many (including me) feel it’s MUCH better than the profile records version and was a key element in expanding the band and the nyhc scene outside of the east village/lower east side while maintaining the DIY spirit of the punk/hardcore scene.

awesome. now do SNFU

This is well researched, though I will say that although it's seen in retrospect as a quintessential NYHC album, at the time, in '86, we (scene kids) very much viewed The Age of Quarrel as an overtly 'metal' record. This probably seems absurd now, given that metal stylings are pervasive in the contemporary scene, but when you look at what was popular in hardcore at this time, both production and style-wise, to have this very tight, polished sound with compression and slapback on the drums, protracted guitar solos, chugging, etc., was a little alienating for purists of the day. All said, it's a classic and still holds up.

Thanks for mentioning Happy Go Licky. I think they were more influential to Fugazi's trajectory than most folks give them credit for being. Also, I look forward to an eventual deep dive on Brian Baker. That guy is like the Forest Gump of punk rock. He's absolutely everywhere.

Harley is the Gene Simmons of NYHC. He did everything first and better than anyone else…..🎉

Really enjoyed the video, keep up the good work. You should do seperate videos for the two main 2 line-ups, Dave Barbe, Mathew Ashman and Andy Warren (Dirk era), also Marco Pirroni, Chris Merrick Hughes, Kevin Mooney and Terry Lee Miall (Kings era). Looking forward to an Adam solo video :)

I'm English, skinheads were originally follower of Northern soul and Two Tone music then it was adopted by the far right Neo Nazis, some were football hooligans, some were in Oi bands/fascist bands but most were members of the National Front and liked to basically beat up minorities and caused trouble. For the most part European skinheads are not the same as US skinheads who adopted the look.

Doesn’t “phobia” indicate fear (as opposed to disapproval and/or disgust)?

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what about oh no its Devo ??? you missed a big piece

I lived in mtl and we had a cinnection thingy with nyc where we sent bands there and they sent bands to us. It was great. My intro to world peace by the cro mags

what about the cassette? it was recorded in Virginia at least a year before. That was way better versions than the LP.

a book is coming out about fanzines including mine. I can hook you up with the guy doing the book.

I was at most of their early shows in NYC. some sob stole my demo tape and first shirt they made. they killed it back then

1:28 freight trains?

there isn't enough people covering this topic . keep going dude

At 2:50 you can see the band name "The Brats" on the front of the bass drum. This photo was probably taken at a show in Denmark with Harley's band opening for the Brats. Who went on to become heavy metal legends Mercyful Fate!

The CroMags didn't start anything. If anything they killed NYHC. Made it all wannabe tough guy shit.

Vinny Stigma has become a carbon copy of Bowzer from Sha Na Na. Harley is the same guy he always was.

Harley half Dominican

Harley seems like an honest and humble guy whos got all his emotions in check...

Harley's book was really good. He said he was pissed off about the Revenge album cover because Rocky George got cropped out. Rocky and Harley are still tight.

Hardcore today will never understand and embrace that early punk music that gave way for hardcore. hardcore is based on punk, not metal...