hi mike it the time to come up WHEN POST a video make the money thing is 100% on TIP look for something on one has done yet this why alot get a man video i have a deck i 100% i know would go nuts big time it's just the time and place the video it's alot luck as well note the lego crazy is over now just love to have a say bob

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Hi Michael, is amplifer board the same as the pioneer sx-737 amplifier board?.

hi there's one i watch he looks like a small man on tv with the eye wear he used to do lego video's cost of living is now hitting the hobbies this may why hi-fi is down there's not lot of money around

yes i know the man techmoen one you are going on about note there are things he don't talk about i have be asked to do re pair cafe to get past the red tape once get the ok it my voice with video i have a bad nose and i sound like i have i cold all the time tec has a bad eye he said he's a right dandy man

RECOMMENDED BY DITTON ???? thats a joke !!! these speakers are way , way , over rated . i cant see what all the fuss is about ??? ive seen all these good reviews so i just had to get a pair . and what a disappointment !!! i already had 3 x pairs of speakers what leaves these in the dust !!! which are wharfedale diamond 6r , denon sc-m41 , and technics sb-cs55 ! all these speakers are louder , more bass , less distortion and better quality . TAKE IT FROM ME . the guy at ditton doesnt know what hes talking about . and if michael yates is worth his salt , he will get a pair of each , review them on youtube and admit that im correct !! all these speakers tested on yamaha a-400 natural sound amp in pristine condition . and recommend to anybody looking for an amplifier below 90 pounds as long as its in perfect condition

Great informative video. I’ve been subscribed for a while and have watched many of your videos. You seem like a really nice guy and you know your stuff. If I were to give you some friendly constructive criticism I would say just doing a couple of things could massively improve your channel in my opinion. Firstly spend a bit more time on thumbnails, they are so important and the first thing that attracts people to click on your video.Secondly although I love the way you chat about stuff in a real down-to-earth way …sometimes you do take quite long to get to the point! Think if you streamlined the videos with less waffle that would help performance too. As I said, this is not meant in any kind of malicious way, I’m genuinely just trying to give some pointers! Keep up the good work!

Interesting topic Michael. Like 8 from me. I just do mine for fun and to take my mind of Chronic illness. Hope mine stays small, as even now it attracts the odd negative asswipe! 😉😂 On a positive note, I have a small group of subscribers that I really enjoy chatting to! I reckon by studying my most viewed vids, I could grow bigger, but I have ZERO interest chasing views/ subscribers! Best wishes my friend. Jim🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂

source is the #1 to focus on. Quality of the signal can only get worse from here. source=Apple Music lossless

Oh you don't mean Mr Techmoan did you by any chance? I agree Mike, back in 2007-2012 was the time to get into KZbin. Look how many retro gaming channels there are now. Back in 2008-2012, there was very few. Now there are too many and people are tired and jaded with it. I will say though that as far as British channels that do vintage hi-fi, there are maybe only 2 or 3 at most and one of them is yours.

Yeah absolutely Mike, I remember early 80s when we still had 3 channels (and all of them closed down at night) and programmes like Song of Praise or Antiques Roadshow or Last of the Summer Wine would get 5 million viewers lol! Well maybe not that many but it was probably quite high. I think Bullseye and That's Life used to draw in 20 million viewers! It's unheard of now. Now if a series or programme gets 5 mill, it's considered a success! Too many channels, too many streaming channels, too much content online. And you know what, all this choice is great and it was a mere dream back then in the 70s and 80s, but I don't think it makes us an happier than when we had 3 channels. (remember when old telly's had ITV2 and ITV3 on the buttons but no actual channels to watch!). It's insane and overwhelming how much choice we have now. I don't watch mainstream telly now as a) nothing there I want to watch b) too many political leanings and lecturing in all programmes now c) I refuse to pay the TV licence to the Beeb anymore d) can find something on KZbin more interesting, such as your channel. Anyways, off topic I know.

Yeah the KSC1845, KSC1815 Replace just about all noise sound transistors. On reel to reel tapes machines and amplifiers.

mike i have been asked to do repair café the job pad has said a 1/2 way is ok they said it lead on to real work i had to fill the right paper work in finding gear to do video's about is getting hard bob

Thinking of getting a pair for height speakers would you say they're worth it ?

Just picked a set up in great condition for my son on ebay...£28 absolute steal! Getting him into the separate's game because, well you've got to haven't you 😅! I use a set of Monitor Audio RS6 and Mission M53... the M33 are exactly as you described and while not quite at that level they're absolutely fantastic for the money even at 4/ 5 times the price of what I paid! Great review.

The room....end of story really

All down to recording levels , all producers have there own thought , when you mass produce the quality goes down hill . Old CDs sound crazy good , now days squashed files blue tooth sounds rubbish , and the system , all this Bose and sound bars lol .

I have amps with and without tone controls, many vinyl records and CDs need a tweak sometimes according to certain listening conditions, i would like to see amps with tone controls but have a built in bypass switch, it does make a difference.

My only thought is that with age (and the fact that I worked around jet engines for 40+ years) I admit my hearing in certain areas is not close to being perfect. I use the gain in treble and bass to compensate for hearing loss. While I can still hear 40hz to 1K pretty well, once I get into 800hz to 4K it gets a little muddled. I think control, for me, helps me to get the sound that I enjoy and more importantly hear. If you are in your 60's and can still differentiate frequencies, I admire that and a little jealous

This debate has been going on since Ivor Tiefenbrun first set out from Glasgow with his turntable tucked under his arm. In case you don’t know his story, he bought a Hi-Fi system using the classic method at the time, which was to spend the most money on the speakers, then amp and finally source. He was unhappy with the sound so duly went back to the dealer and swapped to a more expensive amp. Result, worse sound. Finally he realised that the better the amp and speakers, the more faithfully they reproduced the rubbish being fed in by the turntable. So he decided to build his own, no doubt having been influenced by contemporary designs by companies like Thorens. I’ve followed this philosophy for 40 plus years and it’s resulted in many lovely sounding systems and yes, I do own one of Ivor’s decks. You’re right a really weak link will bring down the system, but what you lose at the source can never be recovered. With a high quality source, the fundamentals of the music will flow through and still be present, even if, for example, the bass isn’t as deep as you might wish. It will still be controlled and consist of more than a single booming note.

I'm currently using 2 amplifiers upstairs: the Myryad t40, Ma240 power, and a Cyrus 8vs. Neither has bass and treble controls. The Myryad has a warm, lovely sound, with a full bass, a massive sound stage, and great separation. The Cyrus, on the other hand, has a detailed, clean, and natural sound, similar to a Yamaha amp, with no distortion. They have completely different sounds. Personally, I prefer the Myryad, but I wouldn't sell my Cyrus setup or psxr power supply. They are very different, but when I switch between them using an amp switch, I find myself listening to each other equally. I would be reluctant to buy MS with tone controls as the signal path is more prone to noise. I enjoy listening to how the amp was made. I do have RCA cables to change the sound just slightly with silver RCA and copper. I find a mix of the two sounds perfect as the sliver gives top end and coper fullness. I know, I know, I sound a bit of an audiophile, but that's my findings: copper from per to power, silver from the source, and silver copper speaker cables. I really do change the sound, but just a tiny bit.

I hear this from audiophiles all the time but for me, I don't give a damn what the audio engineer was thinking. I paid for the media and I'll play it however I like.

Here we go with the audiophile bashing. Well done for missing the point, as usual. The Hi-Fi industry is out to make money and they do this by selling hardware. If they make a good sounding product it is given 5 stars in the magazine read by audiophiles. Ergo, audiophiles help make better sounding gear for everyone, not just audiophiles. You’re welcome. If all you’re interested in is tonal balance, adjust your tone controls and move on. At a certain point, some folks who are passionate about music want to hear more than just the right amount of bass and treble. They want texture from the strings, reverb decay on cymbal hits, perfect timing to preserve rhythm, a stereo image that has width, depth and even height and so much more. Everything in the signal path degrades information. So for some, like me, less interference is more enjoyment. Tonal balance is fixed by component matching to the room. An audiophile is someone who cares about the sound of the music as much as the music itself and I’m not apologising for that.

Place a knob within my grasp and I shall manipulate it to my satisfaction.😊

The problem with b&t controls is where the turnover frequency is set. The best was a Yamaha preamp that had parametric adjustment controls. I forgit the model # but I'm sure someone out there does.

Hello I have a Vox VBM1 amplifier which performs and sounds great. BUT inside the chassis there is an audible transformer hum. It doesn't seem to affect the sound of the amp. And you can only hear it if you open the amp and get inside? Is this an issue? What would you suggest? THANKS

u must be going deaf

Many years ago, when I got into audio as a hobby. I met several people over the years, that firmly believed, that the tone, or treble & bass controls, should be used in the most minimalistic way possible. They couldn’t understand, why my system was very full, bass rich with very nice kids & highs. Then, I took them to a Status Quo concert, they kind of got the idea after that. Although, I was using 4 x Krell 300 series power amps, and a very large pair of (model escapes me)DM Bowers & Wilkins loudspeakers, they could produce a similar sound, and a realistic volume to boot.

If any record or recording doesn't shows on what frequencies the music should be reproduce, the bass and treble nobs has been there for a reason reason

Yeah they did away with bass and treble eons ago and now people are on forums asking what they can do for those recordings they have (regardless of vinyl, CD, whatever the *actual* recording) that sounds a little dull or a little bright, hmmm well there once was a time... I still run a mint final model Audiolab 8000A, a classic British amp if ever there was one that still sounds great and hey... it has bypassable bass and treble and nobody ever complained about the fact. They're subtle in effect but I'll be buggered if anybody has ever been able to tell the difference between them on and left at 0 or them bypassed. Bring back subtle and well implemented tone controls, with some recordings in some rooms they can be a godsend.

Flat response out of the amp or receiver generally sounds like total rubbish. Lifeless and boring. Room acoustics, speaker roll-offs in the bass and treble ranges all demand AT LEAST some more bass/treble or better yet a 12 or 30 band EQ in the signal path.

IMHO, The over-arching criteria is to find the matching speakers. The toneless NAD C338 class D amp matches with Mordaunt Shorts(89dB-90dB) e.g. the Mezzo 2 and MS10. I personally do not tweak it to more than +2dB for treble and bass as my ears aclimatise. But on phono..the loudness and treble sometimes gets a bump up to +6dB. Marantz and Cambridge Audio amp requires +2dB increase for the treble and bass for less sensitive speakers < 88 dB. Bottom line I must have those tone buttons adjusted unless my speakers are of higher sensitivity>89dB with those super precise aluminium dome tweeters.

I used to be a devout follower of the 'wire with gain' church. Ended up designing and making my own pre's and poweramps. Now I consider tone control an absolute necessity... all recordings sound different and some are pretty bad, I want to listen to them all and compensate for the recording and my room's imperfections. This usually means a fairly tiny amount of adjustment. And my tone circuit can be completely disconnected from the signal. Most of the bad wrap tone controls got was due to terrible tone circuits on commercial hi-fi.

Is the sound "neutral", even when the bass & treble controls are set to midpoint on the front panel? If you're so bothered about tone controls then maybe a preamp without them is what's required. Recordings aren't flat, they all vary and some are bloody awful which means you'd be changing the settings each time you play a different CD or whatever.

I've got the 222 - went noisy last week, costing a bit to get the transistors replaced as we speak. It's a great amp though.

I think benchmarks really work with sources and amplifiers. In my experience equipment with the lowest distortion and coloration really do make a difference. Evn between headphones and speakers. Speakers are much more complex as now you have much more things that can be different or wrong. Soundstage, seperation on and off channel axis performance. Some speakers (and headphones) can make anything sound good. Others sound better with better sources. I would say start with good speakers because whatever you change later will only improve the sound. Know your listening environment. Mid or cheap speakers will not sound better with better sources and amplifiers while you should be able to hear the difference with good speakers.

Speakers, they are the most compromised part of the chain and make the most difference. Second would be the part you interact with the most, and make it easy to use, because if you don't use the system it doesn't matter how it sounds.

A plain volume knob isn't for me, not least because you can cut bass for late night listening or add some boost to dodgy recordings, much of my music wasn't recorded in an expensive studio and needs a bit of acoustic 'salt-and-pepper'.

copper pipes, i guess water

Not so... unless you go back and re record the recording there's nothing you can do ? If this was true then every recording you play you would have to adjust it ? Also if it's in the signal path then it's not good! ... volume and tone controls are variable resistors! And use cheap parts !

I remember when I was a kid I use to like putting the bass and treble full. My older used to leave everything in the middle but as I grew older I understood

You need a good volumecontrol, and some magic rock prob dont hurt😂 symbiosis is a good thing. speakers- source- room. If you like the speakers in a livingroom, you will love them after treating the room with some stuffing here and there🎉

I've been audionut for 50 years and spent more on audio than most. One thing that has never changed is room correction! I've had equalizer in my systems for 50 years to tweak sound to my taste to correct room acoustics. 😊

Speakers are the most important because they are the least accurate part of the reproduction. Speakers are generally +-3dB where as everything else is +- <1dB in accuracy, even on cheaper models.

My own personal view is speakers make the most impact on the sound and how they drive your room influences the sound you hear. But synergy will always turn good into great.

I think life would be dull without audiophiles. They remind of the mad scientists we used to see on shows like The Avengers back in the sixties. On the one hand, they freely acknowledge that a high percentage of what they are hearing are the effects of the room itself, while on the other they baulk at the idea of tone controls sullying the purity of the signal, preferring instead to shell out a King's ransom on uber expensive interconnects, speaker cables, and hi-tech room correction. Bless 'em, in that regard they are an essential component of every nation's economy, and long may they reign as such! Me, I'm an old fashioned lad. I find it far less stressful on the wallet to knock the bass control up 1db, and the treble down the same amount. It works beautifully, and my hi-fi sounds amazing!

You make a lot of statements which lead us to conclusion that it is impossible to recognize perfect souund in room I would conquer that opinion Because I experienced such sound and everybody who came and listen then was stunned. Gear was top class mono tube radio with bass , trebble, , switchable sounds, unusual loudness controll and exceptional tube R2R . It had some developed by me modifications and DIY spakers. Available not distorted power was realy very modest. - about 2 W For listener it seems that something impossible happens- Mono sound is like 3D because deepness is properly reproducedand and other dimansions are adequate to room . Suddently appears in head the conclusion that "that's it" and no any efforts of recording engineers can spoil it. I listened to recording done by average person in gig standing in crowd with mono cessette recorder in hand and I was convinced that I am there . Or recording done in 1953 on street and felt like on street. In such case room and speakers are united. . . Yes - i found one perfect position of tone controlls and their position had to be tuned exactly. They were essential but once set no more adjusted. It was 50 year ago and in that time I did not realise how unique it was - lost it and took me life time toget it back in enough degree - the reason is that my listening room is about 2 times too big. I get much lower tones but mid bass is say 90%. that small difference is not enough reaso to change place. .

As an engineer, I guarantee you that no engineer cares one whit how you listen to the music. Audiophiles LOVE to push the idea that engineers or artists INTEND for the music to sound a certain way, but it's just not true. Every system sounds different. Engineers know that, and they try to mix it to sound as good as possible on all systems. It's very difficult to make a record that sounds good on a big system, small system, car, and headphones, and they REALLY don't care if you tweak your tone controls.

Good subject Michael! My current amplifier has no tone controls, but I'm not against the use of them. I have seen a few videos a while ago, that reviewed a separate tone control add-on that you could add to a system, which is another option. Happy listening to all 🎶🎵 Jim🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂

I've heard this from others also. So I've set the treble, bass, and balance to neutral, and turned loudness off so I can hear the basic differences between 3 receivers of different makes. The Pioneer recently lost the right channel. I pulled it out and yesterday checked it out with a pair of speakers and CD playing into AUX. Yep, right channel out. I started moving the balance from left to right and back, started getting crackling on the right, and then the right channel came back. Appears to be just a dirty pot that I'll clean/lubricate today. Maybe a side effect of not using them at all?