How much of a dps loss is taking staff instead of dagger/sword, just to have a ranged option?
@icata123454 күн бұрын
damn your fingers are on crack, i tore my ass and half an hour and got only 38k xD
@icata123454 күн бұрын
best i can do is 35-36k :(
@VMG_1234 күн бұрын
Why remove the torch and replace with sword if youre not using the sword?
@nnarcus4 күн бұрын
Sick gameplay, didn't know could do the platform jump like that!
@icata123454 күн бұрын
and here i am using spectral walk lol
@cacopa8 күн бұрын
I only get like 30-33k need to get a faster rotation cause on the opening i cant hit more thant 30
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
You should also check your gear setup and consumables. Missing any amount of the power stat will significantly lower your damage ceiling. Missing ~100 power from gear or consumables would already be ~2.5% damage loss. I often hear people stating they don't use food nor utility in the golem area. Omitting those can lower your final dps by around 8%. This loss is even worse for power based Necromancer builds because it means your skills may not hit the <50% health threshold when they would otherwise. After that, I would recommend the same things for everyone who is aiming for higher dps: make sure your skills are getting the full amount of hits. Soul Spiral (shroud 4), Life Siphon (dagger 2), and any other skill cast before weapon swap and Reaper Shroud are very easy to accidentally interrupt. Doing so will drastically lower your ending dps because you would have just been standing there doing nothing for 0.5s.
@weatherreport324910 күн бұрын
Did anything change since upload?
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
There have been no changes to the build since the upload of this video. As far as I remember, there haven't been any Scourge changes since this was uploaded. Desert Empowerment specifically only applies to barrier applied by Scourge skills, so boon output won't be affected by anything aside from direct Scourge changes. None of the new/revised Relics compete with Relic of the Fractal, so there are no changes there as well.
@weatherreport32495 күн бұрын
@@saruliasgw2486 Thanks a ton!
@bmtecco338310 күн бұрын
Hola disculpa Quisiera saber porque trato de mantener esa rotación y si bien traigo picos de 47 k No logro superar los 29k sostenido Que podria ser?
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
Although it appears very straightforward, the timing of the skill usage can be very tight. It is very easy to fall behind and end up with lower dps. The first places to check are to make sure you are getting the full amount of hits from each of your skills. Life Siphon (dagger 2) and the skills cast before weapon swap or Harbinger Shroud are especially easy to accidentally interrupt. The next is to make sure you're interrupting Grasping Darkness (greatsword 5) properly to avoid the full cast time. If you are pressing everything properly, you should find that the skills tend to follow an order and the cooldowns just barely work out.
@syntaxoid16 күн бұрын
always nice to fullscreen a video and see that someone else has the superior aspect ratio
@Chipz_The_Cat17 күн бұрын
very nice
@5orrowonthevibeАй бұрын
<- envy the ping (btw what's that purple beam while in shroud)
@saruliasgw248616 күн бұрын
You may be referring to the Quip projectile override for the shroud auto attacks and Dark Barrage
@mikbal7055Ай бұрын
whats your in-game ping?
@ryuzakikazeshini4012Ай бұрын
50-80 by the looks of it
@bobbyyepperАй бұрын
10/10 fashion
@karaoke6207Ай бұрын
well doenst look to bad
@nexzenoxes4589Ай бұрын
may i ask why the specter was using torment? since only devouring darkness give the torment
@saruliasgw248616 күн бұрын
Every condition based skill aside from Grasping Dead applies torment
@sasha9796Ай бұрын
Hello. i am just looking at the build now. Would you mind telling me what the correct golem set up is? I can't quite see which conditions you set from the video.
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
Hello, There is a golem setup guide on the Snow Crows website. This typically includes 10 conditions (Bleeding, Burning, Confusion, Poisoned, Torment, Crippled, Vulnerable x25, Weakness, Chill, and Blinded) for builds that would benefit from conditions on the target. Necromancer specifically benefits from the minor grandmaster 'Target the Weak' in the Curses specialization tree. This gives the Necromancer's strikes an additional 2% critical chance for each condition on the target struck. In this case, the 10 conditions are adding an additional 20% critical chance to my strikes. This is why I have a 100% critical strike chance even though my character screen only shows ~83%.
@ironfist4611Ай бұрын
how much shall I target to get with only exotic gear
@InugamizАй бұрын
How viable is this build to solo champions?
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
Depending on the champion, it can range from very viable to not. This will almost definitely not be able to face tank. Be prepared to do lots of running in circles. I would probably recommend swapping out the wells for something with swiftness to help with that.
@yaridoragon57Ай бұрын
If i dont have the Precise +5 Agony Infusion what piece of gear stats should I change and compensate the crit with?
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
Using Assassin leggings along with the Assassin helm will get you to 99.86% critical chance with fury and no precise infusions. This is 3 precision away from 100% critical chance. Alternatively, swapping the helm to Berserker and the amulet to Assassin will take you to 100.05% critical chance with fury and no precise infusions. This is 1 precision over 100% critical chance.
@sanguin3Ай бұрын
What is the role of Well of Darkness in this build (since Harb doesn't rely on Chill unlike Reaper) and can I replace it with optional utility depends on the fight?
@saruliasgw24865 күн бұрын
Well of Darkness is the second highest damaging utility skill behind Well of Suffering. If you had to swap something out, it would be the first to go since Well of Suffering does more damage and you would want Elixir of Anguish for quickness uptime.
@L_u_u_GАй бұрын
Amazing 🥳
@25GustyАй бұрын
I wish i had your ping :( all your skills activate so fast! gj!!
@eduardshamanАй бұрын
Would you have any idea of the damage of a sword/sword only bench? I am aware you cannot upkeep fireworks permanently and it deals less overall damage . However, I was wondering incase it's around the 38-39k ballpark, could it see some play in some encounters where the range and pierce are useful and make up for some of the lost dps via more dps uptime?
@Dwragon.2 ай бұрын
How come you practically didn't use shroud 5?
@mateusznawrot89412 ай бұрын
It does the same damage as if you would keep auto-attacking. So you can just save it for cc.
@Dwragon.2 ай бұрын
@@mateusznawrot8941 Is that specifically for the deimos encounter or in general?
@mateusznawrot894117 күн бұрын
@@Dwragon. in general
@atapibatappi29932 ай бұрын
Where can i found build?
@saruliasgw24862 ай бұрын
The build can be found here: snowcrows.com/builds/raids/necromancer/condition-harbinger
@nathanbaszynski14082 ай бұрын
lol
@Dwragon.2 ай бұрын
Is the video sped up at all? I cant seem to get my opener down as fast as you and i can't tell if thats why or ur just very good with the animations lol
@saruliasgw24862 ай бұрын
This is playing at normal speed. There are a few casts on greatsword which can be sped up if you know how
@Saulram912 ай бұрын
Question. On both this and your harbinger builds you exit shroud offten before life force is fully drained. How do you time that? I know crows says in rotation 4 auto attack cycles but how can you even count that. Moves so quick and the swings look alike. Anyway thanks for these videos. Its nice to see builds in action then just read a long text log.
@Theutubedudeyo2 ай бұрын
On reaper you can count auto attack cycles easier by the CD reduction you get on your other skills after completing each auto chain. The time between each Death's Charge (Shroud 2) is always naturally going to be 2x Auto chains or Soul Spiral (Shroud 4) + 1x Auto chain. So the Reaper rotation is always going to be Shroud 2 > 2x Auto Chain > Shroud 2 > Shroud 4 > 1x Auto Chain > Shroud 2 > Shroud 5.
@Saulram912 ай бұрын
@@Theutubedudeyo great information. Thanks.
@Exiled_Raven2 ай бұрын
How much can you strip this down for it to not feel like you're chasing the highest dps numbers, like, doing a decent job for both dps and quick :)?
@saruliasgw24862 ай бұрын
I'm not quite sure of what you're asking for, but if you want to sacrifice some dps for more boon duration, Soul Pastry is easy to slot in. It's also the cheapest food in the game. If you don't want to swap food, you can slot as many Diviner's pieces in as you'd like as long as you maintain 100% critical chance with Assassin's pieces or Eagle Runes. If quickness is frequently dropping on your subgroup, I'd say you should look into adding more boon duration. This build can upkeep 100% uptime with what is shown, but stuff happens
@electron4152 ай бұрын
Yep thx i know what to play now
@Siel-siek2 ай бұрын
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I have to use more assassin pieces to get 75% crit
@lapusso37042 ай бұрын
using exotic gear instead of ascended? sigils?
@Siel-siek2 ай бұрын
@@lapusso3704 no full asc. I checked everything. It's very weird..
@Theutubedudeyo2 ай бұрын
You need to use 6x +5 precision infusions on top of the assassins head. If you don't have infusions you can go for assassins legs and you'll be at 74.90%. Also make sure you are using sigil of accuracy on both weapon sets.
@Siel-siek2 ай бұрын
@@Theutubedudeyo Probably the infusions. I dont bother with them since they only account for 2% dps gain. But now it makes sense since I did not even bother to check the infusions. Thanks
@TheNaturalPrideКүн бұрын
@@Siel-siek I know I'm a bit late to the party, but 6 +5 precision infusions are only 30 laurels total. If you really wanna min-max haha.
@icata123453 ай бұрын
how much deeps can you do with only great sword and ooga oboga?
@saruliasgw24862 ай бұрын
I show that in another video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4izh6SOpreKrNU
@leeedwards11723 ай бұрын
What is the average dps/s you're getting with this build and rotation?
@saruliasgw24862 ай бұрын
Getting numbers between 41.5k and 42.0k is pretty common. I would say that >42.5k is reachable. I cut my attempts on Reaper a bit short to get more time on Harbinger
@ayylmao93923 ай бұрын
How can you cast those wells so fast. I have to wait like 1sec before casting another or they just cancel or not casting at all... All i can do is 36k dps max (without infusions)
@saruliasgw24862 ай бұрын
I queue the Well casts. The Wells cannot cancel each other, so you're free to mash the buttons. The skills you need to watch out for are: Nightfall (greatsword slot 4), Enter Reaper Shroud, Weapen Swap, and dodge. Those are the only buttons which would be canceling your Wells.
@selenang20063 ай бұрын
Rly envy u guys with sub or 100 ping. Maxing out rotation on a 300 ping is hard. There is always a slight delay when flipping skills compared to instant flip like in this vid
@badarchitect2 ай бұрын
I'm consistently on 250+ ping and this isn't an issue. Check your input delay from keyboard and/or mouse, that could be the reason... or, maybe just pure skill issue lol
@BK-pd1sq3 ай бұрын
Why dagger instead of mh sword? Isn't sword going to be a better dps output or are you concerned about LF generation?
@saruliasgw24863 ай бұрын
Dagger seems to still beat it out in normal use, but there are situations in which the range from sword may be a relevant advantage. I have another video showcasing main hand sword on this channel.
@4elide3 ай бұрын
Is it still better to go Condition for Harbinger or is Power a great contender now?
@saruliasgw24863 ай бұрын
They're both good. I believe strike damage is superior to condition damage in most endgame scenarios, but I feel that it is easier for power Harbinger to lose damage compared to condition Harbinger. The power Necromancer rotation is very centered on its burst of Nightfall (gs4) + Wells + shroud. Power Harbinger is even more volatile with Blight contributing a large portion of +% damage. I feel like the condition rotation is much more free-flowing
@mau27943 ай бұрын
o/ Where can find help with rotations?? (Talking in general)(yes now with harbinger) but i never can get at least 90% bench... and i do not guess its practice if i do not know what i am doing bad, i am just training the same misstakes (and i am following the steps in sc webpage)
@saruliasgw24863 ай бұрын
Hello, For me, I tend to look at dps report logs if I feel unsatisfied with how I'm doing on the golem. If I'm comparing to a specific log, I try to compare hits for specific skills like auto attacks or to see if I am casting unnecessary skills. After that, I compare times for different 'splits' like weapon swap to weapon swap. I can see if I am slow in certain areas and diagnose that way. In the end, if you have something that feels comfortable to you and performs to your liking, that's good
@acy58363 ай бұрын
hey mate, i was wondering what are the bis pve second hand combo. I would appreciate if you can tell me plus and minuses of dagger/torch - dagger/sword (which u use on dummy) / staff / dagger-warhorn (for breakbar damage) don't know if breakbar damage is a plus enough to take warhorn
@saruliasgw24863 ай бұрын
Hello, As of right now, I would say offhand sword is the best option for damage. Sword 4 does good damage and sword 5 is decent while providing some life force. Not using a sword won't be a massive damage loss. You can look at the older videos and see they're only ~500-1000 dps behind. The issue with the other options is more than they don't do much better than the dagger/offhand sword combo. Offhand sword has 1.5s of fear. This is the equivalent of ~150 defiance damage. Torch has 200 hard defiance damage, which is good for fast bars like the Qadim hydra and destroyer. The strike damage from the skills are not very high, so they are not worth using over greatsword abilities. Warhorn has a mix of 100 hard defiance damage and 1s fear. In total, warhorn does about the same amount of defiance damage as torch, but half of it is with fear. Warhorn 4 also takes ~50% longer to cast than torch 5 or sword 5.
@Sam-xf1oo3 ай бұрын
Sebastians Beitrag erinnert mich stark an eine meiner Abschlussarbeiten aus dem Studium. Prinzipiell wollte ich nur widerlegen, dass "moderne" Spiele durch hyperreale Grafik einfacher sind als ältere Spiele mit vergleichsweise schlechterer Grafik (Behauptung nach Hiloko Kato und René Bauer). Ergebnis meiner kleinen Forschung war zwar, dass eine unterschwellig vereinfachte Raumaneignung durch hyperreale Grafik nicht direkt von der Hand zu weisen ist, jedoch auch nicht vollumfänglich zutrifft. Ergänzen konnte ich die Aussage nämlich um den Punkt, dass moderne Leitsysteme weitaus mehr zu einem vereinfachten Spielerlebnis beitragen als die Grafik allein. Das ist in etwa das, was Sebastian thematisiert. Tutorials, Listen zum Abhaken, Erklärungen an allen Ecken und Enden (aber auch Analogien zu anderen Spielen sowie auditive Besonderheiten u. v. m., was im Beitrag nicht thematisiert wurde). Ein Spielerlebnis nach der Trial-and-Error-Methode existiert nicht mehr in vielen Spielen. Gerade diese Spiele (Elden Ring, Dragon's Dogma ...) bleiben dafür im Gedächtnis, da sie kognitiv eine größere Auswirkung auf den Spieler haben. Ich stehe daher zu 100 % hinter dem Beitrag. Viele Spiele wirken langweilig, da sie alles vorkauen. Die Welt ist nicht mehr geheimnisvoll, Raumaneignung ist kein tatsächlicher Prozess mehr, der im Spiel geschieht, vielmehr passiert alles unterbewusst, da ein "Ausblenden" der Leitsysteme nicht möglich/vorgesehen ist. Man soll ja nicht frustriert sein, sondern "Erfolgserlebnisse" haben. Ein super spannendes Thema, würde mich freuen, öfter Beiträge in diese Richtung zu sehen. Cheers!
@diobrando59744 күн бұрын
Buddy, are you high or something? Nobody asked for your research abstract under a benchmark video... and especially in German😆
@mouryapratapreddy42213 ай бұрын
Did you choose dagger instead of mainhand sword because the mainhand sword's "reactivate" skiils causes delay to enter into Shroud or is the overall damage of the mh sword weaker? Ty
@saruliasgw24863 ай бұрын
Dagger generally does more damage than sword. If there was an option to have the golem start with 50% health, sword may come out ahead. The 100 -> 50% section is in favor of dagger and the 50 -> 0% section only slightly favors sword. You can check my other video for an example using the main hand sword.
@towelcat3 ай бұрын
ghost pepper popper
@saruliasgw24863 ай бұрын
This adds ~2-3k dps when it is applicable. Sadly, the Chill portion of the food is only active in a handful of strikes and none of the raids.
@Kas-zs1qs3 ай бұрын
Wait... WHAT??
@albertohc59694 ай бұрын
Hi, why it's prefer shroud 3 over 4, since 4 number is higher from game description?
@saruliasgw24864 ай бұрын
From purely a damage/cast time perspective, shroud 3 is better than shroud 4.
@albertohc59694 ай бұрын
@@saruliasgw2486 ty
@kamilstopa44234 ай бұрын
What weapon is in the offhand I can’t tell..
@wojciechszatko4 ай бұрын
Sword
@jcristina4 ай бұрын
Looks great but how it your attack speed 3 times faster than normal all the time? Thanks for the video...
@mugiwarafan50734 ай бұрын
yeah this one I always end up doing slower than him
@luca76754 ай бұрын
quickness boon?
@mugiwarafan50734 ай бұрын
@@luca7675 same buffs but it seems like my char is slower same gender too
@luca76754 ай бұрын
@@mugiwarafan5073 hmm. He sometimes cancels the after animation of skills. maybe thats what makes it looks like hes faster?
@mugiwarafan50733 ай бұрын
@@luca7675 you are right i did try it
@mementomori18684 ай бұрын
how this build is compared to power reaper or scourge condi?
@Nightcrawl74 ай бұрын
you can compare it to power reaper, very similar concepts but this just hits harder, but you have less self stability i guess, and reaper is probably a tiny bit easier because shroud doesn't change much, condi scourge is a completely different build that is very strong in it's own rights
@Jay-el9iz3 ай бұрын
Harbinger has both more power & condi damage than scourge & reaper, but it doesn't have as much self-reliability and utility. This is what the specialization was meant to be (but I still think it's not enough).
@_zakk4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the benchmark as always but is there any way to increase the UI size in future videos? It's hard to track things in this bench (especially Blight stacks) :>
@vr0k3n2 ай бұрын
yeah recording on an ultrawide monitor/resolution isn't the best option for a video like this where most people who watch it have regular size monitors
@petrpucik4 ай бұрын
Snowcrows have same dps with d/s and gs.
@saruliasgw24864 ай бұрын
I just made this to show that main hand sword isn't as doom and gloom as its reception
@SabsUploads3 ай бұрын
I much prefer that with the ability to auto attack from a range in specific scenarios. This is awesome to see, great work @saruliasgw2486 !
@optimizedlaziness61833 ай бұрын
@@SabsUploadsthis + having a good gap closer that isn't part of the rotation and some extra self sustain makes it more versatile too