cd player vs cd transport + dac !!!
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CD vs Streaming vs LP  :  Round1
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3 жыл бұрын
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@Lars-x2v
@Lars-x2v 19 сағат бұрын
To go to Kinki, after listerning to Luxman, is like having a clean window in to the music. So if you lika a small % of softening of the sound and a touch of unrealistic varmth, go with Luxman. But don´t forget It is always up to personal taste and pairing of equipment.
@thexaaka4192
@thexaaka4192 Күн бұрын
How would you rate/compare the Fyne Audio F-702 to the Audiovector R1s?
@tongton853
@tongton853 Күн бұрын
@@thexaaka4192 I​ didn't​ spend much​ time​ with​ F702​ since​ it's​ just​ a​ borrow​ed​ unit.. F702​ is​ a​ lot​ large​r​than​ R1.​ As​ I​ noticed, R1​ treble​ is​ so​ nice​ and​ extensive.​ Bass​ and​ mid​ of​ F702​ sound​ a​ bit​​ fuller.. F702​ is​ more​ gentle​ and laid back.. R1​ seem​ to​ produce wider image (but​ could​ be​ my​ place​ment). Overall, I​ may pick​ F702​ over​ R1​ If​ my​ room​ is​ bigger..,
@nasdkhan254
@nasdkhan254 7 күн бұрын
On my shortlist for end game speaker
@HongNguyen-my5oq
@HongNguyen-my5oq 14 күн бұрын
Cd any day. Don’t know why people still hang on to vinyl
@NaimNaim-jl6ef
@NaimNaim-jl6ef 14 күн бұрын
luxman ❤❤❤
@tamasbroczky529
@tamasbroczky529 15 күн бұрын
Jobb, finomabb felbontás a vinyl.nél, puhább, természetesebb. Cd hang: Made in germany.
@timessquarerecordscom1469
@timessquarerecordscom1469 18 күн бұрын
They both sound different in person
@rogerturner1881
@rogerturner1881 18 күн бұрын
VINYL WINS...ALWAYS
@NoName-kf9bh
@NoName-kf9bh 19 күн бұрын
Grundsätzlich grausam dieses Grundrauschen bei beiden Beispielen. Dann die Aufstellung der Boxen viel zu nah beieinander. Da wird so viel Potenzial verschenkt. Über KZbin etwas zu beurteilen ist nicht wirklich aussagekräftig 😢
@MegaPalesz
@MegaPalesz 19 күн бұрын
Vinyl has to be listened to at a slightly higher volume. But vinyl has a nicer sound. Both are good, but vinyl is the winner.
@andreasklabis7706
@andreasklabis7706 19 күн бұрын
Hört sich so an, als ob die (nicht 'datenreduzierte') Schallplatte mehr und realistischeten Bass erzeugt. Interessant wäre auch über einen High-End-DVD Spieler (z.B. Marantz DV12 S1) einen gekauften Titel auf eine CD-R in z.B. '.wav 24 Bit/96KHz' dagegen zu hören
@nutanchandrasingh3872
@nutanchandrasingh3872 19 күн бұрын
Vinyl record have the better sound than CD.
@MartinLloyd-w1u
@MartinLloyd-w1u 20 күн бұрын
Why compare just enjoy what you got
@michaelbradley7595
@michaelbradley7595 20 күн бұрын
Good speakers and amplification is everything. Even KZbin can sound spectacular with the right DAC. Vinyl sounds better some of the time because of the equalization, but that's before wear and tear creates surface noise. The CD will sound the same every time and won't easily wear out unless you have childish vandals handling them. If all you do is listen to 2 channel audio a sonic equalizer is a good investment.
@dennishill290
@dennishill290 21 күн бұрын
Nice presentation and set-up 🍺 👍 🔈 🔈🔈....! Best to have both.... sometimes you can...sometimes you can't find something in the print you want... and then you have to resort to....streaming it...... etc....😢
@stevechapman7866
@stevechapman7866 21 күн бұрын
Looks fake. The pickup cartridge was half way through the track when the music started. Haha.
@tongton853
@tongton853 21 күн бұрын
The video and audio are recorded separately to ensure better audio quality.
@lutzhennecke4186
@lutzhennecke4186 22 күн бұрын
And that's a good question. I use a CD player and music comes out of that too! But buy good CDs, e.g. Stockfisch-Records & Pauler Acoustics.
@horbus01
@horbus01 22 күн бұрын
Another senseless "Apple with Pear" comparison!! Of course there is a difference, always!!!! It starts with different mixing and mastering although the same source material would be used! Every step after that is different, different materials, different equipment and so on!! Who can judge that the quality of a digital equipment is the same as the analog counterpart??? Plse stop those BS comparisons! Sheer clickbait!!
@rodplanet5901
@rodplanet5901 21 күн бұрын
You may stop watching. Merry Christmas!
@Mikexception
@Mikexception 20 күн бұрын
I do not think in theory you are right in practice you should not make such notices - too many instant charges without specification do not provide any real input . I have very fine aligned system which unveils "everything" .I also made such comparisons just by curiosity. Anyway outcome from my experiments is that both are extremly simmilar - much more than I could observe here. May be because I use different material - original records issued 50 years ago and their CD versions reedited later. This way it is not parallel production of two mediums which may be eventualy mastered separately but one is reproduced copy of another.
@Vladimir-e1z2f
@Vladimir-e1z2f 22 күн бұрын
Винил - потеря динамики, рыхлость звука. Одно слово, убожество.
@voshche
@voshche 18 күн бұрын
с этого " убожества" когда-то вся музыка переписывалась, и все были в восторге...
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 22 күн бұрын
The CD system has better transient response on the kick drums and is therefore more engaging to my taste. ps> What brand of damping weight do you have on your Denafrips Pontus dac?
@tongton853
@tongton853 22 күн бұрын
@@connorduke4619.. hifistay​ centum9​ is​ on​ pontus.. Thank​ you​ for​ your​ comment.
@JohnZolla-bp7tl
@JohnZolla-bp7tl 22 күн бұрын
Like you, I'm lucky enough to have both means of reproduction. I don't bother to compare. I just enjoy the music. 😎 I believe I also have the same speakers. Tannoy XT8 floorstanders.
@dirkbusche54
@dirkbusche54 22 күн бұрын
I own the XRCD of this album of Neville, i love it, musically and auditive.
@tongton853
@tongton853 21 күн бұрын
@@dirkbusche54 I​ love​ this​ album​ too.
@dirkbusche54
@dirkbusche54 22 күн бұрын
Good comparison, thanks. CD sounds more balanced on my system, vinyl a little bit coloured in the mids. Some details more please: which Cartridge, which cable between Thorens and PH 10 (i have PH 10 too), which cable between Transport and denafrips (which model?), which Speakers, which Power Cables on each Component and which Power distributor?
@tongton853
@tongton853 21 күн бұрын
@@dirkbusche54 Tha​nk you​ for​ your​ comment.​ Speakers​ cable​ : tellurium​ q​ ultra​ silver. Power​ cable​ : audioquest​ strom series. Rca​ interconnection cale : tellurium​ q​ ultra​ silver. Digital​ cable​ from​ cd​ transport​ to​ dac​: audioquest​ Diamond​ hdmi Power​ isolation​ transfomer​: hifi99​ (local​ brand​ -​Thailand)​
@dirkbusche54
@dirkbusche54 21 күн бұрын
@ Thanks. Wow, that seems to be a wonderful combination. I Use AudioquestCables too (Carbon CAT 7/Telegärtner Metal Plugs, XLR digital Cinnamon), Tellurium (Power Cable, 900 Euros, Tellurium Q silver), both very good, but yours are better. Digicable from Reclocker Mutec MC3+: Neotech OCC with ETI Cryo BNC-Plugs.
@JingoLoBa57
@JingoLoBa57 22 күн бұрын
Both a bit shrill that must be in this recording. The vinyl is a little more mellow.
@robmills537
@robmills537 22 күн бұрын
Both sound fantastic i wish i had a system as nice as that.
@GiancarloBenzina
@GiancarloBenzina 22 күн бұрын
CD as so often just has no fundamental body, the turntable brings it to another level, but isn‘t my choice either, by what the speakers show. Both are equally out of my choices, clearly. It‘s likely the speakers that doesn‘t really transport the differences enough. I don‘t like the amp either, but I know that this isn‘t the amp‘s fault, that‘s proven to give enough magic to any input and sends it over to the speakers.
@JoseLuisGarcia-wl6vo
@JoseLuisGarcia-wl6vo 22 күн бұрын
CD sounds like plastic envelope.
@voshche
@voshche 18 күн бұрын
😁
@scottadams7523
@scottadams7523 23 күн бұрын
Is the Vinyl the new 45 RPM from Analogue Productions Mastered from the original analog tapes by Bernie Grundman? Is your CD SACD? The Analogue Productions 45 RPM Aaron Neville is sublime in vocals, instruments and soundstage. I voice like Aaron's deserves the warmth of tubes and vinyl.
@tongton853
@tongton853 21 күн бұрын
@@scottadams7523the vinyl​ is​ the​ first​ release yr.1991 at​ 33rpm.. Cd​ is​ normal​ cd first​ release.​ Thank​ you​ for​ your​ comment.
@Mikexception
@Mikexception 20 күн бұрын
I do not share opinion that anyone realy need to increase of frequency band with 45/m.
@scottadams7523
@scottadams7523 16 күн бұрын
@@Mikexception Would you then suggest even digital streaming low bit rates vs. higher bit rates also has little effect?
@Mikexception
@Mikexception 15 күн бұрын
@@scottadams7523 We are talking about LPs 45/m - streaming is not comparable. . I think we know not enough about real interactions and impact l on our senses and we pull conclusions very fast by simplified intuition based on technical observations of instruments. not senses That is why is a lot of contrary opinions without clearly justified result . If somebody could technicaly define what is the "little effect" and judge it in justified scale then we can at least start dispute if anything has it or no. You must be not technical engineer if you are using such not precise termin . In my opinion all THD which are created in significant for hearning range above 5kHz and are created in LP reproduction are for sure are hardest to controll They are groupped and condensed by multiplying by 3 in range 15kHz - 60 kHz together with harmonics of eventual noise and cracks . As suggested by many those THD will mix and affect back the lower well perceived range. If it is cut at max 15 kHz all that THD would not be recorded to LP and have enough volume which could add/deduct to sounds in hearing band
@solarious68
@solarious68 23 күн бұрын
vinyl top
@Larwiz
@Larwiz 23 күн бұрын
Sounds more vibrant on vinyl, surprisingly. More treble and airy. I'd like to know if they were volume level matched.
@tongton853
@tongton853 23 күн бұрын
@@Larwiz Thank​ you​ for​ your​ comment,.. I​ tried​ to​ adjust​ the​ volume​ level​ to​ be​ as​ close​ as​ I​ can.., but​ I​ think, the​ vinyl​ one​ still​ jsut a​ little​ bit​ higher.
@Larwiz
@Larwiz 23 күн бұрын
@tongton853 Okay. Thanks for responding.
@Mikexception
@Mikexception 20 күн бұрын
I think the difference which in this system has positive impact on sound and may come from pickup not from LP. quality. Anyway it is for me advantage of turntable that it gives opportunity to make slight alignment by choosing best for owned system pickup. .In fact I would expect opposite - that digital would be better articulated but onlu in sopranos. I have four pickups different shapes to my Bang Olufsen turntable each with different specific it makes just about such differences - the best is full contact and sounds most smooth with best perspective .
@MegaPalesz
@MegaPalesz 19 күн бұрын
@@tongton853 That's right, you have to turn the volume up a little bit, but the vinyl has a nicer sound.
@stinkenstine
@stinkenstine 23 күн бұрын
The CD sounded beautiful but, the vinyl sounds more alive
@julesfletcher2495
@julesfletcher2495 23 күн бұрын
Vinyl sounds less compressed and fuller but the cd was a bit more top end rich.
@EARLandPEARL-c3i
@EARLandPEARL-c3i 23 күн бұрын
the vinyl has more body
@jimromanski2702
@jimromanski2702 24 күн бұрын
They both sound very good. I think the vinyl sounded fuller. But over KZbin I'd take that with a vault of salt.
@maximotadlas1316
@maximotadlas1316 24 күн бұрын
I prefer vynil
@jeanfons
@jeanfons 24 күн бұрын
a bit flatter with Vinyl
@adisonho1697
@adisonho1697 Ай бұрын
Jays Audio CD2-MK3?
@tongton853
@tongton853 Ай бұрын
yes
@L00peey
@L00peey Ай бұрын
silver brings out the vocals and detail and air more than copper thats what ive noticed but it does it blended with 3 dimensions, but copper has much better separation and its easier to follow instruments and sounds which is ultimately better for listening to music to enjoy it and not to drool over sounds even though its easy to do it. copper always sounds best in the end if you can tweak the system a little or introduce a tiny bit of silver somewhere. if you like everything sounding alive like a live performance with great realistic detail and open sound get silver, if you like hifi or pa speakers get copper.
@Carl-yx1ww
@Carl-yx1ww Ай бұрын
Both shot
@ΚωνσταντίνοςΚυπαρίσσης
@ΚωνσταντίνοςΚυπαρίσσης 2 ай бұрын
Ultra black it`s for sure a step ahead...But for 3x the price of silver ii , silver ii is definitely one of the most vfm speakers cables out there.
@PiotrZagrodzki
@PiotrZagrodzki 2 ай бұрын
Luxman is more realistic.
@renatomorais8136
@renatomorais8136 3 ай бұрын
Man, I wish there was a cable TQ Grey, being the combination of silver and black :D It's impossible to judge from here but the silver had almost too much energy but I missed its clarity when the Blacks came over, especially when the music got into full swing. I also can't imagine how your system sounds like and what sort of synergy to go for or pitfalls to avoid, having towers with ribbon tweeters but then two monoblock tube amps. I'm guessing I would go with the more conventional cables here.
@smyrnianlink
@smyrnianlink 3 ай бұрын
You can pretend that you can hear 0.01 % distortion or You can invest the price difference on speakers and hear a real difference the choice is yours..
@briancampbell7712
@briancampbell7712 3 ай бұрын
Fyne will never be able to produce a vintage Taannoy sound...keep trying
@PlatinumMastering
@PlatinumMastering 3 ай бұрын
I have Eres Ii it’s pretty crystal clear in OS mode and the via tube preamp
@markphilpot8734
@markphilpot8734 3 ай бұрын
No contest, Luxman for the win. We all have opinions. Civility can still exist. We don’t always agree, but we can be civil. Thank you!
@k-poplover6537
@k-poplover6537 3 ай бұрын
Grande ottimo Luxman❤
@어꺼으찌부
@어꺼으찌부 3 ай бұрын
파인이 빈티지 처럼생기긴 했지만 빈티지스피커는 아닌데ᆢ
@markb7550
@markb7550 4 ай бұрын
Kinki EX-M1 seems to have better transient response and therefore more resolving. I wonder if that alone could make a difference when auditioning full philharmonic orchestra recordings.
@johnb6677
@johnb6677 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately after sales service at Kinki Studio leaves a lot to be desired. My EX-M1+ amp, only a few months old, developed nasty distortion on every channel. All Kinki has done is to blame it on my cables. I have checked my cables on two other systems and they are in perfect condition. Kinki refuses to swap out the amp. For that reason I have to recommend you avoid Kinki Studio products at least for now.