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@downwind_drifter1040 2 күн бұрын

You might actually be tempting me to attempt my first dock start…

@FoilFanatic42 2 күн бұрын

With your experience I have no doubt you could pull it off! Make sure to record it though, it makes for some awesome clips when learning lol

@ukarlsson 3 күн бұрын

Pretty close!

@FoilFanatic42 3 күн бұрын

Gettin there!

@slappyosis 4 күн бұрын

Which skinny are you rocking with the 1401?

@FoilFanatic42 4 күн бұрын

Using the skinny 362/50 and I love it!

@arnaudnaiwko 4 күн бұрын

What is your personal best with the 1310? Mine is 6 minutes, I'm curious if I could do better with the 1401 without the UHM mast. Is the 1401 more efficient than the 1310 with the 19mm mast? I know it is a lot faster, but does it help to pump longer?

@FoilFanatic42 4 күн бұрын

I never actually timed the 1310 unfortunately. I really wasn't a fan of how it pumped. What is your full setup? I would be suprised if you couldn't pump longer with the 1401, as I find it easier to pump and more forgiving.

@arnaudnaiwko 4 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42Ok thank you, interesting. I pump using the 1310 with the Progressive 350, the regular ultra short fuselage and the 19mm 75cm mast.

@FoilFanatic42 4 күн бұрын

@@arnaudnaiwko Nice! I'd like to see what your results would be with the 1401 and a skinny rear stab.

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@AndrewKauf 4 күн бұрын

Nice! 💪🏻

@FoilFanatic42 4 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@youhavequasp 4 күн бұрын

Great insight, thanks for that video. It’s probably because you’re used to riding a more demanding and high performance foil that the 1150 feels so easy to you now 😉

@FoilFanatic42 4 күн бұрын

I think you're right! The 1180 forced me to improve my technique quite a bit. The 1150 and 1401 allow for bigger error margins in my experience.

@Auldylachs 4 күн бұрын

Almost!👍🏼

@mattkeller5388 5 күн бұрын

Lol - love that first try. Coming from surfing the balance is so weird on these.

@mattkeller5388 5 күн бұрын

I'm paranoid about an injury from the foil, or prop on an efoil - have you had any injuries or close calls?

@FoilFanatic42 5 күн бұрын

@mattkeller5388 No real injuries, just a few bruises from hitting various parts of the foil. Hitting the efoil has only really happened from breaching on glassy water and not knowing how high up I was. Avoid glassy days when learning on any foil in my opinion. A helmet would also be smart.

@RCKahuna150 6 күн бұрын

Ya inspire me into thinking I can dead start my 1150 and 1180! For now I’m only practicing just pumping with foildrive, 1180, ultrashort and 360 skinny. I’ve got a silly short advance coming soon and stoked to try that next 🤙

@FoilFanatic42 6 күн бұрын

Give it a shot! The practice pumping will help a lot for sure. Let me know how you like pumping the silly short! I'm thinking about getting one soon.

@arco2ch 6 күн бұрын

Nice one! On flat water yes, you will enjoy the 1401 better...untill you will want to do tricks and carves, then 1180 will come back under the mast ;) Try the art pro with the 250 progressive stab, makes it a bit more playful by similar lift

@FoilFanatic42 6 күн бұрын

I've been back the 1180 quite a few times for sure, it's just such a fun and versatile wing. I was thinking about getting a progressive wing for off the dock and behind the boat, which do you think is the better all around size?

@arco2ch 6 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42 what stabs you have already? i use now the skinny 359/40 and progressive 250 (same area, very different shapes), they are very complementary and can be both combined with art pro and spitfire. so yes, i'd recommend that one if you already have a skinny. Next challenge for the art pro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3bKdoKFnMidbbcsi=AWt-Hc8nLPLELunR

@FoilFanatic42 6 күн бұрын

@arco2ch I only have the 460 and 50 skinny. But good to know! That looks like a fun start and a good training technique haha! I'm still trying to learn how to sit down and stand back up while pumping, but it has been quite the challenge.

@arco2ch 6 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42 fair to say the 460 can be passed on, i actually got rid of my whole PNG Red Series setup at once when the art pro black series arrived. The 460 is def too big now for your skills

@FoilFanatic42 6 күн бұрын

@arco2ch I agree and really will only keep it to help teach others. I'll probably end up getting a shorter black advanced fuse next or a rear wing. Although I've been tempted to get a 910b for behind the boat.

@welovekiteboarding 10 күн бұрын

Well done, foil fanatic! Interesting comparison and indomitable spirit! I watched both parts :)

@Clippinkids342 12 күн бұрын

What wing do you use

@FoilFanatic42 12 күн бұрын

In this clip it was the 1401

@olivergaa2668 14 күн бұрын

Dachte grad Held der Steine 😂

@bewiseopeneyes8720 14 күн бұрын

Definitely illegal. Contact the former governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger

@SireSmitty 14 күн бұрын

You lost me at "we got pit vipers" 😂😭🤣

@sourklondike8673 14 күн бұрын

Pit vipers just means you’re a total douche

@nikorhodes4304 14 күн бұрын

Theres no way to look cool while doing this 😂😂

@FoilFanatic42 14 күн бұрын

Darnit, that's what the pit vipers were for

@Wileycoyoteee 14 күн бұрын

Lol

@thebear2538 14 күн бұрын

Only dumbass wear pit vipers. Board cool tho

@FoilFanatic42 14 күн бұрын

Agreed, love em for the meme tho

@Sleepyfye 16 күн бұрын

The “what the fuck happen here”😂😂😂

@Mr.Phoreskin 16 күн бұрын

The water is breaking your short fall, how is that painful? Lol

@FoilFanatic42 15 күн бұрын

He's going a lot faster than it looks, but sometimes you get lucky and it doesn't hurt - like diving or doing a flip

@tara2nissa 16 күн бұрын

It's the Dr. Evil ,"Oh No" at the end. lol 🥸

@downwind_drifter1040 18 күн бұрын

Hello, thought I’d share some thoughts 🤓 What fuse are you using? I’ve made big gains going to the sillyshort atm. Your vid doesn’t surprise me… I’m now using the 35skinny for my big foil setups 1401 1180 etc Going back to fuse lengths my take is that you gain a huge leverage advantage by using shorter fuses. By going down in fuse length with all else being the same, it requires far less energy to pump the system. The down side is any heavy pump inputs are wasted as they are so leveraged they will just push through… I havnt experimented yet because I love being free of drag with the 35… but getting the most from a bigger rear foil like in your vid, it might need to be leveraged with a shorter fuse. It will remove the heavy feeling from the pump vs the skinny feeling you currently enjoying. You’ll likely get the projection you were expecting from the bigger rear foil, without it costing the extra energy your also experiencing. 🤙🤙

@FoilFanatic42 18 күн бұрын

Appreciate the insight! Right now I'm using the UltraShort Advanced+ and it's been super nice so far. Interesting about going shorter on the fuses, I may need to look into that! I'm curious how big of a difference going from a 50 to a 35 skinny would be. Thoughts?

@downwind_drifter1040 18 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42 I’m chatting to Dylan tonight and I’ll try get his professional insight for you but from me: It would be a worth while difference in my opinion, I can now notice the drag between each of the sizes. The biggest factor will be a shorter fuse, it will completely change your setup. If I were you I’d invest in a fuse over a new rear to start and I’d suggest the sillyshort but even the crazy would be good and less of a learning curve.

@FoilFanatic42 18 күн бұрын

@downwind_drifter1040 I appreciate it! Perhaps I should just go all the way to the silly short since it sounds like I would end up there anyways. You said it makes the pumping easier, but do you think it will make the pumping duration change? I assume with the shorter fuse, it would increase frequency?

@downwind_drifter1040 18 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42 it will require a technique modification of some sort. It is a steeper tighter arc through the water and mast height is gained far quicker, with less energy, and it suits the bigger foils. It is saving me a lot of energy in the bumps as I can stay away from the heavier anaerobic style of pump, I am now getting more motion for less energy. I think you should try it out. Make sure to stay with the advanced plus. If you do, send me a link to the vid! I’m subscribed now but don’t want to miss seeing your results.

@downwind_drifter1040 18 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42 and yes agreed just get a sillyshort

@brightbluesky1548 19 күн бұрын

People in the 1400's 🧹👁👄👁 🔥

@AMAli-ct5df 19 күн бұрын

The song hits so good with bounce 😂

@colton98 19 күн бұрын

what do you do if it sinks

@FoilFanatic42 19 күн бұрын

There would be a lot of crying, but luckily it floats 👍🏼

@fthewayofthegaucho 20 күн бұрын

If you fall, how the hell do you get back up and get going again? Looks difficult

@FoilFanatic42 20 күн бұрын

You have to hope you're near something to jump off of or it turns into swimming practice. It can be tough!

@hollandcs 20 күн бұрын

I’m into my 3rd season on the 1150 on a lake and still making incremental improvements, especially behind the boat. I’m still only about 50% success rate dock starting. I bought the 1401 paired with the advanced ultrashort fuse and 460 stab and have been unable to dock start with about 20 tries. It stalls when I jump and attempt the first pump. I don’t have this issue with the 1150. I’m thinking I’m just not going fast enough for my 205 lbs when I do my first pump after running and jumping on it. Such a fun and enduring challenge. Thank you for making these vids!

@gaeldaniele 20 күн бұрын

The 1401 is faster than the 1150, so you need a bit more speed to dockstart it. on top of that I would pair it with a skinny stab so it's harder to accelerate it once you're up!

@FoilFanatic42 20 күн бұрын

I agree with Gael here, probably need a bit more speed and a skinny rear is super nice as you can climb faster and pump more efficiently. The skinny will increase your cadence, but the reduced drag is well worth it! My advice would be to stick with it and experiment with different launch speeds and trying to land with board as high as you can while keeping forward momentum.

@hollandcs 20 күн бұрын

@@gaeldanielethank you for the advice. I will order a skinny stab and give that a try. 👍

@hollandcs 20 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42will do. Good stuff. Need to get a skinny stab and give it another go. Having too much fun on the 1150 right now. Pumped away from my boat and caught another boat’s wake today for the first time. Crazy fun.

@FoilFanatic42 20 күн бұрын

@hollandcs That's killer! I've always wanted to try that and hopefully this summer I can since I've learned fo transfer wakes. The skinny is going to make the 1150 feel so much better. Excited to see your feedback!

@mistersuperstoked 20 күн бұрын

If you’re heavy enough (>80kg) then the 1401 is killer AND turns well too (with advanced ultrashort and shorter…). I use it for everything (apart from prone) now: wing / paddle dw / dockstart.

@FoilFanatic42 20 күн бұрын

I can definitely see that being the case! Even as a light rider (~65kg) I find that it is super agile for it's size. The 1180 is still more fun in terms of carving and turning, but the efficiency of the 1401 is super fun in it's own way.

@slappyosis 20 күн бұрын

Man the 1401 looks huge compared to the 1180. I'm surprised you found the 1401 easier to start than the 1180, I've heard the 1180 is easier. Which you figure is better to learn on? I assume you were using skinny 45 tail with both.

@FoilFanatic42 20 күн бұрын

Coming from the PNG series, it took me a full session to get a successful launch with the 1180 and then quite a few more to get to a 100% launch rate. With the 1401 I have nearly a 100% launch rate right off the bat. To be fair, when I got the 1180, the fuse and skinny rear were also new to me and now I've had plenty of hours on that combo. Still the 1401 seems like it would be easier to learn for me due to it's low speed take off and less energy required to pump. Also, using a skinny 50. Hopefully this helps!

@FoilFanatic42 21 күн бұрын

Couple bonus clips at the end for those that are curious how crazy this wing is!

@AndrewKauf 21 күн бұрын

I have the same rears for my 1150 and 1401. I couldn’t do a dead start on my 1401 with the skinny. It was just too pitchy. Once I put the 460 on my 1401 with the short fuse it worked great. I will have to play with the skinny on the 1150. Thanks!

@FoilFanatic42 21 күн бұрын

Interesting! I've only used the 1401 with the skinny so far, but I have been blown away by how user friendly it is. The testing has gone better than expected so far!

@AndrewKauf 13 күн бұрын

Just had a dock start session and I remembered what the issue was with my initial 1401 dead starts. It wasn’t the skinny rear. It was the Advanced + short fuselage. Switching to the regular short made it easy to push off and glide without it pitching down. I tried the 460 with the 1401 today. It is so stable and requires so little pump to move. Rock solid haha. Was having a hard time carrying speed around turns though.

@FoilFanatic42 13 күн бұрын

@@AndrewKauf Ah, that makes sense! Perhaps the skinny rear would help with the speed around turns?

@arco2ch 21 күн бұрын

You will be blown away by the glide of the 1401 😊 put a small skinny, like the /40 one. You will have less roll than the spitfire but on flat water you really don't need much...

@FoilFanatic42 21 күн бұрын

The 1401 has done just that! I was very impressed by how easy it was to dockstart/pump, just like the 1150. I only have the skinny 50, but it's crazy how easy it is to turn and roll such a large wing!

@arco2ch 21 күн бұрын

@@FoilFanatic42 because the 'average chord' is << than the 1150, you get the lift / glide but not the drag ;) still it can be rolled fairly well, not as good as the spitfire, but still impressive. It now depends where and what you want to do - i think the wings are not competing but completing the gear set!

@FoilFanatic42 21 күн бұрын

@arco2ch I completely agree! The Spitfire feels more agile and playful, but the 1401 is a ton of fun to pump, easier to start and seems to take less energy.

@fluiditynz 22 күн бұрын

On the question you threw out over pumping in waves, try to rise up in the peak of the wave and it's energy will add to yours. I wing but there's pumping in the lulls and I always have waves.