Jamie Blackley was my favorite version of Robert Dudley. My favorite Anne is Natalie Dormer and Genevieve. I think Natalie Portman fits Anne description perfectly.

Fascinating! Thank you!

I'm not sure that James didn't want to try recatholicise England but I'm going off what Baron Macaulay says about him in his History of England. He'd already, amongst other things, imprisoned Archbishop Sancroft as well as a number of other Bishops who'd defied him before he was deposed. I would have liked more detail on his intellectual relationship to Henry Tudor. Like Henry (and unlike his brother Charles ii) he appears to have been a person of high religious principal. He was probably therefore confused that Henry appeared to act on such pragmatic, even self indulgent, motives. Of course Henry had a knack for believing he always acted from the purest of motives, even when deep down he wasn't. James was more perhaps honest with himself. It was said at Versailles once he'd gone into exile "when you hear him talk, you can understand why he's here." He should have paid less attention to his Catechism and more to Machiavelli's Prince had he wanted to stay a King but i think he was more interested in spiritual rewards than earthly ones.

Love this 😊

日本から出ていけ詐欺師。二度と日本に関わるな。

Many thanks for this really enjoyable broadcast.

Funny - in an odd way - but the portrait of Anne of Cleves is the loveliest of all! She looked a very pretty woman. Her headdress probably a bit too heavy for me but that’s just personal taste. Henry missed out on a good queen there, or she was a lucky , lucky woman! Thank you so much ladies, loved the program 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

Thank you ladies. Could you help me please. I heard that you could google where the portraits of the queens are shown? So I have that right? Something about the Royal Collection. I did try but got nowhere. I’m not very good at this. Could you imagine seeing them in person? Wow. Have you seen these items for yourself? Must have made you feel so - ‘oh wow’. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

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For some reason KZbin had stopped updating your posts. I have re subscribed. Looking forward to catching up. Xxx

I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast and will definitely be buying your book. Thank you.

I love the whole program

glad i found part 2! excellent discussion -thanks

Wonderful insights of the amazing women of the Wars of the Roses Thank you ❤

It reminds me of what Harry and Megan have gone through. After watching sultan suleiman it was easy to understand the decision Harry made.

Poor Cecily, she certainly suffered many losses. I think we think these days that they didn’t suffer as much when a child was lost but it must have been dreadful. The stress they went through! Think poor Elizabeth of York. I’m afraid I’m not a fan of Margaret Beaufort, have t been since I was 11 and, believe me, that was many, many years ago! Not sure saying that men were misogynistic is right, they knew no better. It was the way of the world back then and they had the church’s backing! Many, many women must have felt so stifled by their lives but, for very few, it was just the way it was. Thoroughly enjoyable though ladies, thank you. I’ve always loved history as well. I could have come top of the school in grade 7 but ended up becoming equal top ( and I even remember the boys name!!) because I flatly refused to write in the exam that Richard the 111 had killed the princes in the tower! My teacher was so disappointed, my mother - 😱😱😱😱😱😱 - my dad? “ if that’s what you believe bubby”. I was 11 years old and I won’t give the year! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

What an engaging lady! Please have her back and talk some more with her, whether it's about a new book or not, it would be so interesting!

This was such an interesting broadcast. Many thanks.

Thanks to both of you. I looked up Horsley and the land is gorgeous. Very rich and wholesome looking. Cool discussion. Nice place to visit.

Thanks 😊 I enjoyed this talk very much

1. Anne was not Henry's peer. She forgot that. 2. The people hated ("the whore") Anne.

Obsession or Love!?? Only a silly teen would think that was Love!!

How did contemporary Monarchs view Henry? How did Henry's behavior compare?

After Catherine of Aragon (a peer), Henry chose domestic underlings -- he had complete power over them.

This will be an awesome show. Hope everyone remembers to support Natalie's work. ❤

I really enjoyed this talk. Thank you, Dr Mackay. I have read David Loades' excellent book on Jane, but felt like there had to be more to say about her than he was able to encapsulate. I hope you do find that extra evidence you've been looking for, because there are many aspects of her life I still wonder about. I do see Jane as manipulated by her family and Henry, far more than her predecessor Anne ever was. I always wonder how terrified she must have been in those months of her pregnancy, that it might all go the same way as it had done with Catherine and Anne. She must have been under such enormous pressure. Thank you, again.

She forgot to mention that a portion of the outer walls of Westminster were knocked out so that her furniture, clothes, jewels, and a part of the Royal Treasury could be brought in.

Not to be cynical but calling her The Peacemaker was an elegant manipulation, as they had high hopes that she’d champion the Empirical agenda, ie legitimizing Mary/Papacy reunion, etc… It’s diplomatic perfection lol It was my understanding that she didn’t put in much political effort until later, leading some of her support to fall away.

Loved this episode. Can't wait to visit & stay at Hever in September!!! ❤

Really wonderful ladies, thank you. Loved the story about the lady laughing- do you take that as she liked what you’d done with it.? Wow, that’d really be great to know. 🙏🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

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Wonderful work Thank you ladies 🙏🙏💜💜🏵️🏵️👏🏻💐💐🪬🦋

Thank you Dr. Paranque for your passionate outrage at how Queen Anne was wronged. This interview was so humanizing. You and Natalie are among her greatest modern champions 🙏❤️ I know she is giving you both that knowing National Portrait Gallery smile wherever she is now.

Absolutely loved this chat❤

I'm not too fond of Henry Vii he was an usurper. His propaganda maligned good King Richard. I think he and his mother Margaret Beaufort were involved in murdering the princes in the the tower.

I have been reading Haley Nolan‘s history of Anne Boleyn and she talks about the narcissism of Henry and how that was really the reason for Anne’s fall. Also, Haley Nolan’s theory about Anne Boleyn was that she was a passionate reformist in religion and that was also part of her ultimate failure. I am interested in feedback from other Tudor historians about her book.

I was so lucky to have met Estelle in person in Gloucester in April. She was speaking about her new book on stage then I spoke with her afterwards. Historic__ali 😊 @ellehistory

There are people, and I have always been one, who are overly optimistic about the decency of others. We didn't understood that people can be evil and totally unreasonable. And it's the MOST honest and good people who lack understanding of evil. Our minds deny evil and constantly make excuses for others...until it's too late and we are traumatized by their rampage and schemes. Anne may have been this way. I think she had NO way to expect the monster inside of Henry. And then she was already trapped. And so many scholars mention that she kept hope for mercy until her last day. She was too good to accept that he was an evil monster. A murderer. A psycho.

hmmmmm.......Lady Jessica in Dune

I can’t wait for the book! I am fascinated by this take on Anne and Henry, and applying psychology to the past. It easy to forget they are human. I would love to hear Dr. Paranque on the other wives too. Thanks for a great discussion!

Totally agree about Henry. Inside he was a narcissist with no compunction in turning on anyone who wasn't giving him all he wanted or didn't subscribe to his godlike image of himself. I can't think of any redeeming features.

Didn’t work, sadly 👵🇦🇺

Thank you so much, I loved it. I’ll try to look up Dr Paranque but I haven’t got instagram. Many thanks 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

I guess I take a middle ground with who to blame for Anne’s downfall. I blame both Henry and Cromwell, and to a lesser degree, the Seymour’s. I do believe Henry wanted to be rid of her by Jan 1536, but I am not 💯 sure he wanted her dead at that point. I think Anne’s threat to Cromwell, who I agree was probably never really her ally, was enough to convince him he had to kill or be killed, and Henry went along with it because he saw the advantage of starting over with a clean slate. That doesn’t absolve either of them… it makes them both monsters and I believe they were. But did Henry want her dead at first? I can’t quite bring myself to believe it. He definitely went ahead with it anyway, knowing she wasn’t guilty of any of the crimes she was accused of. How awful is that? As brutal as he was with Wolsey, More and Fisher, not to mention Katherine and Mary, at least he could argue they actually disobeyed him. Why murder Anne over false changes? Her ‘betrayal’ of not providing sons and their marriage bringing chaos and danger isn’t enough to justify it in the court of public opinion, especially since he loved her so strongly before. But we all know of cases of domestic abuse and once loving husbands murdering their wives, so why couldn’t Henry be equally guilty of that? Regarding Anne and George mocking Henry’s poetry and even more dangerously, his virility… I guess it could be possible, but I think if Henry’s sexual prowess or ability was something Anne might have mentioned, it would be because it caused a problem in her getting pregnant, rather that something she would have mocked. After all, her mocking Henry’s skill would suggest that she possibly slept with someone else whom she could compare him with, and I don’t believe she ever slept with anyone but her husband.

Thank you for this very interesting video....good speaker and interesting content

Claude and Francis are my dna proven great x many grandparents

Wow, this was an amazing lecture. Thank you so much for posting. So interesting.

Outstanding Discussion, Thank You!✨