They don’t come with a dog door, you can buy one from beavertail and it’s up to you to cut the hole and sew it on (which is why I didn’t do it) but it hasn’t been a problem since the dog likes to sit or peak from under the blind by the motor where I have the dog ladder

@@TheRyantanner thanks. I may try it out then decide if I want a dog door or not

I get to about 35 mph with the 115 and that's pretty consistent whether its just me or 4 guys, and a boat load of decoys, gear and dogs. I'm not sure why the tiller rating is so low, maybe something to do with weight distribution? I might be looking to sell if your interested

the CC would be nice for fishing but would certainly cost you some room with the console and the raised deck.... I would bet a CC would cost you at least 1 seat... maybe 2 depending on how the holes in the blind align with the console. I also don't know how high the center console stands, it might make the beavertail blind not an option if you can't flip it over due to the console height

I used the 1800

I'll be interested to know how it works out for you. The 1800 fits but not sure how much better the 2200 would've been... depending on how high you want the blind you'll need to cut quite a bit off the front poles (the middle 2 poles) to make it equal to the height in the back... I still haven't gotten around to correcting that on mine

I’ve got the blind on it now. Still needs grassed up. But I’m happy to send pics. Let me know on that.

Tried it out for the first time this afternoon. Worked great. First group of Mallards we saw dumped right in and we dropped 4. Good “shakedown cruise” for the new blind!

It’s a 60” shaft 24v/ 80# thrust. I does the job, if it gets choppy and all the weights in the back of the boat it will come out of the water so if it were longer it wouldn’t be a bad thing but not really required. not sure what you’ll be fishing… if it’s the Great Lakes… this setup will do fine BUT you would benefit from the 36v/ 112 # when your trolling against the current

Yea Joel is who I worked with too!, yea so my thoughts after 2 seasons on the water.... I absolutely love it, and would do it again without thinking about it. as far as your questions. I do a good bit of fishing on Lake Superior when the weather is good... I would suggest the 36v ulterra trolling motor vs the 24v I got, a little more juice would be nice to have on the great lakes, if you're only fishing inland lakes 24v is fine. the beavertail blind has been absolutely awesome. you are correct that its a bit of a pain getting in only because one corner needs to be unbungeed and its not super easy to get to from inside with waders on and all that, sometimes we don't even put that bungee on 1 corner and then you can just flip it over with ease. in crappy weather though, it is great for staying dry and out of the elements, especially if you have less then 4 shooters and one of the holes is closed, it will hold heat from a buddy heater pretty well that way The trolling feature on the motor is probably a good move.... not sure where you fish but on lake superior there's a current that flows around the Keweenaw peninsula, one way I'm at 7 on the trolling motor going 2.2mph... the other way against the current, I'm at 10 on the trolling motor AND have the 115 in gear to maintain the 2.2mph... and so that has been my solution... I just put the motor in drive and increase or decrease the trolling motor as needed but per the manual thats not really its intended purpose. so the trolling feature is a good idea imo. any other stuff I can think of.... the Helix 9 MEGA SI gen3 Love it and has all the features I need BUT if I had to do it again I might get the Solix 10 just because lol. Oh... lastly if your going to be fishing the great lakes.... just have them install a good marine radio... that would've been nice to do, instead I have a handheld that works but man, something built in would've been well worth the money that's all I can think of off the top of my head, let me know if you have any other questions

@@TheRyantanner Thanks, Ryan! Very helpful. Most of my use will be on Houghton and Higgins lakes (at least for fishing). They are both big lakes and can get pretty rough, but nothing like the Great Lakes! The only other question I forgot to ask you is about light bars. I didn’t see one on your boat and I’m trying to figure out where to mount it/them if I have a trolling motor. Did you come up with a solution for a light bar(s)? Thanks, again!

@@toddruthruff834 Gotcha, yea this boat is great for big inland lakes... I've been in 4' waves on superior when storms just sweep in and although it wasn't fun I never felt like I was in danger so it will hold its ground in any condition I can think of being out in on an inland lake.... Ah YES! A light bar... my solution is a handheld spotlight (the rechargeable one from Walmart isn't bad for the $$), I would like a light bar but the handheld has been enough for my applications, my previous 16' ModV had one and it was pretty handy, especially on rivers.... One last thing to know, the boat does need about 11-14 inches of water to float..... I'd guess you could get away with 4-6 inches with the haul but that 115 is heavy and puts a lot of weight on the back end ..... as for the 115, this motor is AWESOME.. 4 guys and 15dz decoys/ equipment the boat will still move at 35 mph... about 39-40mph unloaded and it is super quiet, no joke I've had guys at the launch ask "hey, are you going to start that thing?" while its idling lol .... just read the manual when you get the boat.... I've never broken a outboard in before, they have some very specific directions for breakin period and rpm ranges to stay in for X hours etc...

what would you like to know?

I have a 115SS, I can hit 35-40 mph with 4 guys and gear

I'm looking at the 186cc with a Suzuki DF140, albeit not the color I want, but its brand new and the price is right. How is using the seat behind the CC when running, can you see ok?

@@matthewreno8844 if you mean the side console- I can see fine, actually I need to duck my head down when its cold to take advantage of the windshield blocking the wind and I'm not a tall guy

I don’t think so, the frame would clear it but the material is too bulky for how close the throttle and console is to the side of the boat

@@TheRyantanner Thank you

Yea I've hunted deal island, south marsh and some other areas around there

It is a textured vinyl flooring, it didn’t get hot in the summer but I’m not sure where you live, up here on Lake Superior if it gets over 85 degrees we start freaking out and melting like snowmen lol. I have a buddy with hydroturf flooring in his boat and that would be a great substitute flooring that I know wouldn’t get hot

working out great, I would highly suggest it

Would you have done the 20’ one or stick with the 18’

@@NH_Trapper good question, if you do have the same boat I would highly suggest the 1800... the 4 shooting holes coincidently line up with the seats, (except the 3rd hole which aligns with the side of the console, just have to use a chair for that one) if you get the 2200 you have 5 shooting holes but they probably won't line up.

yea agree, my alternative to this was either a banks or duckwater, I made the right choice as this is way more versatile for what I want to do, and before or after waterfowl season taking the blind off is 5 minutes work to loosen the bars and lift it off... that easy. the blind is still in great shape. the only complaint ( and its a very small one) is that you occasionally (like 2 times a season) need to pull the material forward about 2 inches on the frame cause of the travel it slides back and it makes the frame sit a little weird if you don't correct it but that all

I believe I used 11 lbs of joseph sterns grass on it

yea so this is why I actually chose this particular boat, I fish lake superior in the summer and this will get me out there on any day that I'd want to be fishing. as for shallow, most my hunting is in great lakes and great lakes connected water so we don't have too much for big expansive wetlands, the boat will draft like 8" so 10" of water your fine but if its a huge shallow area you're gonna be pushing a long way, I don't think you can have a short shaft motor on this boat so you'll need at least 2.5-3' of water to use the motor

@@TheRyantanner Thank you for getting back to me. I’ll be fishing Lake Michigan, Erie, LOTW and duck hunting marsh and backwaters on the Mississippi River. Trying to get a rig that can do it all. If that boat had a jack plate on the motor it would maybe do the job

that depends what you mean by run? with the motor operating I'd say 3'. if I'm pushing the boat into cattails to setup for the hunt, 10" is enough to draft it

Beavertail 1800 Series

@@TheRyantanner I have the same boat as you. I wondered if the Beavertail would be wide enough for the 92 inch beam. Any problems? Do you like it?

​@@castblast6974 no wondering needed lol. I cover this in another earlier video

Wow, just realized the blind video is out there! Lol. Saw you got into 10” and didn’t have a huge issue getting out?

@@munsterlanderman no it drafts well I wouldn't have any hesitation in an area that's shin deep. I will say we did push it into some cattails and ended up pushing it on top some of the roots and had to rock it off..... she ain't light lol that was a serious pain

Super easy, just flip it over and you're hunting. We hunted yesterday in a 30+mph wind and it was fine. If you have a dog I would suggest getting the dog door OR having the dog crawl through the corner of the transom to get on the transom

@@TheRyantanner thats awesome!!! do you have the dog door? is it difficult to install? my dog gained a little weight over the years lol. she might not be able to slip through!

@@fwlmoodadventures4658 I don't have it yet, I do know it requires you cutting the hole wherever you want and sewing the dog door in, probably be an off seasons project for me

duck hunting from it is great, very comfortable, I do need to order the dog door and dog ladder since its totally encapsulated every bird ends up being a blind retrieve for the dog unless he's sitting outside the blind which I don't prefer.. as for you getting in and out, you have to flip the blind or squeeze out of the side, either way its not hard at all. the boat actually does go pretty shallow, you can draft it and push in like 12-14 inches of water, and the trolling motor does great getting around in those shallow weedy spots you don't want to run the main motor in. the only caution is to make sure in super shallow water your not going to damage that transducer by running it up on something

correction... I had it in 10 inches yesterday it drafted fine, just to get it stuck on a weed bed... she's heavy trying to push out lol

the back is actually fine, the widest part of the boat (92") is right by the gas cap cover toward the bow. I did just pull on the bottom piece to the frame to give it a little arch to it but it works out well, especially because the 4 holes can align with the 3 seat pedestals... if I had gotten the 2200 series blind I don't know how the seating would've worked out with 5 holes, another thing I did have to do was take 3" off the frame to correct to height of the frame, as it was you couldn't see down on the water sitting in the seats, you were basically looking at the horizon which presented a little challenge and that was with the travel cover..... because I cut the frame shorter it makes the blind a little wider when its collapsed so the travel cover in the middle where I bent it out + cut the frame short you need to muscle it a little to get it clipped... nothing that I regret doing but things I didn't anticipate happening when I set it up.... its been a little while and I've hunted out of it a handful of times... I'll try to make a video here of it being hunted to get a better idea of what it all looks like in the field

With all the features I got it was certainly more than I wanted to pay but I’ll never be purchasing a new boat again so I bit the bullet. I won’t disclose too much but I’ll tell you It was a good number north of 30

@@TheRyantanner thank you i figured it was about that at least did you go through a local dealership or order it from the factory?

@@CHIPPOFISHING I got it through Freeway sports center in Fenton Mi. I highly suggest them, basically they have the haul and will built it as you want it. which is what I did.

@@TheRyantanner so much like yourself iI am looking for my last boat ( well maybe,,,LOL) but after all my looking my retirement boat will be the outlander 186sc

@@CHIPPOFISHING Yes that was the decision I arrived at as well.... not sure if you duck hunt as well but I just purchased a 1800 beavertail blind, I'll be posting a video about that as well here in a week or two with some other content about the boat

thanks man

Thanks man, yea we shot a few 2 weeks ago while I was out there... problem is getting to the bigger populations, most those banner redhead/ can hunts are on islands that are 4+ miles off shore so the gear and weather required offers limited opportunities but I would make the trip if you ever get the chance to hunt the bay, cool story if nothing else you can say you hunted where former presidents pulled the trigger and where American waterfowling began

@@TheRyantanner I'm hitting lake Chesdin this Saturday for sure. Gotta plan the bay sometime. Maybe next sesson.

thanks man, I do too.... nothing like it

lol yea, the first reaction is "what! no way" but the birds don't care, its very counter intuitive considering I try so hard to hide from dumb early season birds in Minnesota and the Dakotas, then go out there and end up fooling late season educated birds with this... lol.... everyone out on the Susquehanna flats hunts that way "Body booting" if you ever get a chance to try it, its a unique way to hunt for sure