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@toofusnook
@toofusnook 14 күн бұрын
One small note: twice/half volume is +/-6db (not 3db).
@MultiVg13
@MultiVg13 16 күн бұрын
If you don't have any pedals except a volume pedal between the guitar and a vintage fender amp, thos trick still works or you need a buffer between guitar and the volume pedal?
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias 16 күн бұрын
You need either a buffer or an active volume pedal (which is essentially a buffer in the pedal), otherwise it'll be more or less like just turning the volume down on your guitar (and you'll lose some highs)
@MultiVg13
@MultiVg13 16 күн бұрын
So a simple pedal like Boss eq will do the job before a 250k ernie ball jr6180 volume pedal right? (P.S. what about using a vol pedal on the amp's effects send return?)
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, any buffer prior will do, although with an EQ pedal, you could just use the overall level control on the pedal itself. If your amp has an effects loop, a simple pot there will work too, and will also let you get some preamp gain, but the DRRI, like most classic amp reissues doesn't have one.
@nenadstojanovic6545
@nenadstojanovic6545 19 күн бұрын
Thnx for the video! So I can crank my amp to a higher volume, as long as the last pedal is on, and the output is turned down. Did I get it correctly?
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias 19 күн бұрын
Yep!
@PhatLvis
@PhatLvis 21 күн бұрын
Can't quite tell what amp sounds like with camera audio obscuring it and also producing a slap-back.
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias 21 күн бұрын
No camera audio or vocal mics in the playing sections (you can hear my lazy editing whenever I didn't wait long enough to start playing after talking or talking before I stop playing)! A bit of room mics in mid-side mixed in to give a sense of what it actually sounds like in the room - close mic on the cab is never going to represent that well at all. This video is from a long time ago, and the room itself was pretty bare, so fair enough that there may be some slapback just from the room itself.
@joea9608
@joea9608 23 күн бұрын
I've gone with the Ox box. I can play 100 watt amps fully cranked to the sweet spot & listen through headphones...
@forestyogin2218
@forestyogin2218 28 күн бұрын
These particular amps were designed such that when they are turned down to bedroom levels, you lose bass. So when you turn them down you simply up the bass to balance tone. They were designed to simply turn up the bass at lower volume levels (and vice versa). Voila! As mentioned in this video, the bright cap keeps the same treble at any volume, but not the bass. I have an FDRRI, and it is simple. Turn it to 1.6 - 1.8 , and then simply turn up the bass. I have a Kingsley Harlot V3 tube distortion pedal, so I get actual tube break up/od/distortion at any volume level. Sure, not as full as over 2.5, but a great tube sound for bedroom volume levels.
@Paul-lj3qw
@Paul-lj3qw Ай бұрын
Just play “
@Crunchifyable2
@Crunchifyable2 Ай бұрын
Honestly the best solution is a master volume or a switch to internally lower the volume next to a ground resistor before it hits the phase inverter. Edge of break up at any volume.
@fireworks_music
@fireworks_music Ай бұрын
I have the exact same amp (with some NOS tube replacements) and placed a volume pedal between the end of the effects chain and the amp input. BAM! Low volume bliss. I keep the amp ~5 or so. Tone is exactly the same at all volumes and that's the best part! Plus, great for you to point out how the volume pot treble cap affects this amp at low volumes WITHOUT this process. (Why Fender thought this was a good idea baffles me.) Any tube amp is going to be too loud without this method. Also completely agree about attenuators being basically useless - even the best ones. Waste of money.
@jasonprince1205
@jasonprince1205 Ай бұрын
A deluxe reverb is quiet. A Marshall major is not as quiet.
@mac7659
@mac7659 Ай бұрын
I have a cort cm15r. For only 200 euro you get a very good sounding amp,
@jjellen5804
@jjellen5804 Ай бұрын
Does yours have crazy hum?
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias Ай бұрын
@@jjellen5804 nope! Hum can come from a lot of things though - if it happens without a guitar or cable plugged in, you might want to try bringing it to a store and compare it to another one to see if it's the amp or something about the wiring where you have it plugged in.
@jjellen5804
@jjellen5804 Ай бұрын
@@adjustablebias it was the only one they had it hums without anything plugged in so it's not normal for these amps to be noisy?
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias Ай бұрын
Not unless you absolutely crank the reverb of volume.
@ΠαναγιώτηςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ7μ
@ΠαναγιώτηςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ7μ Ай бұрын
What about the jhs black box?
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias Ай бұрын
@@ΠαναγιώτηςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ7μ I think that's intended to go in an effects loop which the Deluxe Reverb reissue doesn't have - it might work like a passive volume pedal after a buffer though - I don't know enough about impedances etc to be sure though
@woofcity6307
@woofcity6307 2 ай бұрын
Good demo. I own a ‘68 vibro champ and its cool but i need to play it out of a 4 ohm 12inch speaker for me to enjoy it. Thats me. Personally, I like the tones out of the fender, modeling amps with the deluxe reverb setting surprisingly a lot more than I thought I would and they’re so cheap. I just use those most of the time.
@joaofssouza
@joaofssouza 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! You helped me realize how to find a good tone not only with my 335 and Deluxe Reverb, but with any guitar and tube amplifier.
@deddiev1718
@deddiev1718 2 ай бұрын
Agreed attenuators change the tone no matter how good they claim to be
@jdl2180
@jdl2180 2 ай бұрын
Why don't you get yourself a good attenuator and then you don't have to worry about it. You can use whatever amp you want wherever you want 😀
@Ben59910
@Ben59910 4 күн бұрын
Any suggestions?
@11000038
@11000038 2 ай бұрын
The vibro champ sounds fantastic but it's too loud for anything but clean sounds at home. Maybe fender could invent the master vol?
@psychonaut689
@psychonaut689 2 ай бұрын
They have them on the Blues amps so why not on the Reverbs?
@BeefNEggs057
@BeefNEggs057 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff man
@williamadams9110
@williamadams9110 3 ай бұрын
Buy a Tone King with built in IronMan Attenuator or seperate IronMan.
@hartlee1160
@hartlee1160 3 ай бұрын
Ita has the tweed boxy thing cause thats the design of the amp. Mixing the amps and speakers ohms isnt desirable for your sound either
@itchysoul
@itchysoul 3 ай бұрын
Get an OX
@RPSartre01
@RPSartre01 3 ай бұрын
I have the 64 reissue, and I lowered the bias and changed the first tube to AT7. It sounds so smooth and quiet at low volumes but still has the chime - and I can still use an overdrive pedal to make it rock.
@cassavamellin
@cassavamellin 4 ай бұрын
Simple, get the tone master. Sounds almost identical and can play at 1 watt. I love tube amps but unless they are 5 watts or less it’s hard to play at home and crank them.i had a Marshall Origen and couldn’t even enjoy the overdrive at a watt. Was too loud
@rickclark4714
@rickclark4714 4 ай бұрын
Real review. Well done. How many pricey tube amps have been bought for home use that end up with disappointment because they’re one trick ponies, too loud, require another $300 of pedals etc. ?? Answer: lots.
@sam-ww1wk
@sam-ww1wk 4 ай бұрын
Great video man. So, what I'm gathering is the higher gain preamp tubes just fall apart sooner. Volume more a factor of watts, power tubes, circuit, etc. Excatly what I wanted to know because I have an amp that farts out a little soon. Seems like high gain tubes are like hot pickups; not for everyone and every application.
@jonathanplanner3270
@jonathanplanner3270 4 ай бұрын
Well, the thing that puzzles me is you say you want to retain the real sound of the amp, then the fist thing you suggest is changing the speaker which by definition is the single most important part of the amp and will create that biggest sound change... I personally think there are now several amazing attenuators out there that have very little impact on tone and keeps that amp whole with everything you would use on stage in your home rig. But I nevertheless interesting ideas there
@garymattischannel6207
@garymattischannel6207 5 ай бұрын
In that Amp The 12AT7 sounds the best.
@jessem53403
@jessem53403 6 ай бұрын
Great educational video! I appreciate your knowledge on this subject. I will pass this on to multiple people I know that use their DRs in their house or apartment.
@jessem53403
@jessem53403 6 ай бұрын
Volume pedal FTW!
@ChayBode
@ChayBode 6 ай бұрын
Looking into this, and the 12AXT is blackboard scratchy, unlike the warm 12AY7, which can express the tone/notes without bleeding the ears, informative video, Thanks :)
@westinclinard8189
@westinclinard8189 6 ай бұрын
too much talking
@chrisb3976
@chrisb3976 7 ай бұрын
Every amp needs a headphone jack.
@peacock1977
@peacock1977 7 ай бұрын
I got a master volume mod done on mine at Flynn amps in Glasgow. It amazing now. All at bedroom levels.
@beatbaker7420
@beatbaker7420 8 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ is coming back soon!
@johndenby6192
@johndenby6192 8 ай бұрын
CV6091 is the King of them all
@southernpride2003
@southernpride2003 8 ай бұрын
Anyone know what the best preamp tubes would be for the best Luther Perkins tone
@claudehopper9813
@claudehopper9813 8 ай бұрын
Blackface R.I. Deluxe Reverb ? Mine sounds best : no pedals , short cord , volume 3.5 .That's how Leo Fender developed these amps to hear the guitar . Pedals have their place but not to replace the character of the amp or your guitar .
@Geert890
@Geert890 5 ай бұрын
Most people like that best, but this video is not about getting the best sound: it's about getting the best quiet sound.
@jasonp1319
@jasonp1319 8 ай бұрын
Super helpful. Thanks for the detailed run-through and the close-ups on the board.
@oficinadomarcheto
@oficinadomarcheto 9 ай бұрын
12ax7 more fuzz and confused dirty
@leifhaga8016
@leifhaga8016 9 ай бұрын
You should go back to your daytime job man… Don’t know how,but you made this amp sound bad In my room it sound real good…..
@ReturnTheSanity
@ReturnTheSanity 9 ай бұрын
There is a reason Fender has added built in attenuators to their amps. Using an attenuator to reduce volume makes way more sense. The tubes are still being driven the same when using an attenuator so adjustments do not change the tone like this method does. With this method, you hear a clear difference and adjustments have to be made on the pedals/EQ to compensate. With an attenuator, you may hear a little treble loss, but everything else is the same. A slight tweak of the tone knob of the guitar is all that’s needed to get that back. By all means, add a volume pedal, they are very useful but they go first in the signal chain. If achieving the same tone was as easy as turning the volume down the knob in the amp would work that way, but it doesn’t. The Bugera PS1 is an amazing attenuator and cost less than a volume pedal.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 9 ай бұрын
Half the perceived volume is a -10dB difference. It's 1/10th the power. A -3dB difference is the lowest perceptable, and is half the power.
@chebrneck
@chebrneck 9 ай бұрын
barely crimp a wire cutter on that pickup knob shaft to flare a little then put the knob on and it'll never come off again.
@richardnagy1246
@richardnagy1246 10 ай бұрын
not a perfect solution but an honest one. I find amps with a master. volume to be the best solution. I have a 60 watt super gold-tone and sounds very close to loud volume. only diff is the speaker pushing the volume which cant be fixed. but now thinking about it. maybe there could be a low volume switch over for a low watt amp!!
@Ppuffdiddleydangdoof
@Ppuffdiddleydangdoof 10 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you. I'm curious about where you measured your sound pressure levels. At 85 -90 dB, you said it was talking level. I find that 85 dB measured w an iphone dB meter app at my ear is my normal limit and at 90 dB, depending on the music, I'm bordering on painful. were you measuring right at the speaker cone? Thanks again.
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias 10 ай бұрын
It was in the digital display unit you see by the pedal board - on the floor probably a meter or so in front of the amp and just off to the side. I think you're right that it would be different off axis at ear level, and honestly it was a super cheap internet purchase - no idea how calibrated it is other than giving a good relative sense of the volumes in the video
@rodolpheponthus2948
@rodolpheponthus2948 10 ай бұрын
Tubes go 100% bad in this amp. Don't know if it's the factory tubes they put in there are crap, or if it's a design flaws that eats the tubes.. but it's a fact. So if you purchase it be sure to have a set of fresh tubes.. or prepare yourself to send it back for warranty and tube replacement. I'm not bashing, just search a bit on this and you'll see
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 8 ай бұрын
I’ve heard lots of complaints about this. There have been lots of returns on this amp
@rodolpheponthus2948
@rodolpheponthus2948 8 ай бұрын
​@@misterknightowlandco All the Fender tube amps have cab rattle and tube problems. It's really annoying
@mnienow
@mnienow 10 ай бұрын
Worked for me. Totally diff amp. But 100% the same problem and I never thought to move my volume at the end. Brilliant. Saved me from buying an attenuator.
@cainmcc116
@cainmcc116 10 ай бұрын
SAY IT AINT SOOOOOO
@MrWhoFour
@MrWhoFour 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this solution. So to be clear, the volume pedal would be at the very end of the signal chain? After the effects loop?
@adjustablebias
@adjustablebias 10 ай бұрын
At the end of your pedal board unless you want it to modify the signal into any pedals - the important part is that it go after a buffer or drive pedal. Hope that helps!