Syracuse > nc state, I told you Kenton 😂 gg

Clemson don't need to be in the ACC championship game because they didn't earn it if they go SMU probably still win Dabo coaches are garbage both sides of the ball

How dare you people talk shit about the mighty SEC SEC SEC, where 3/4 of that conference is in the top 25. Of course they have a “tougher” schedule based on ranking (because 3/4 of the conference starts in the top 25). Just stop rankings until week 6 to level things out. Of course that will never happen because of tv ratings.

On the SEC being "overranked" topic... it's like a chicken and egg situation. Do they draw viewership cuz theyre good or are they perceived as good cuz of their viewership. I tend to side with the former. The preseason rankings aren't just pulled out of people's ass. They look at recruiting classes, returning starters, etc. I love SMU I'm an alum but we'd get destroyed by any of the top 6 teams in the SEC. Yall are being biased. SMU should've lost to Duke if were being honest. The ACC is just bad this year.

First of all. Both of you are Clemson haters. Canes not that great at all. If Clemson played Canes they will be them. And I think Syracuse will be canes too. Get ready to eat crow hater

I am pulling for Clemson, but Miami will not lose. So Clemson will not make it through.

The best things that could send playoffs into a tailspin: Georgia Tech upsetting UGA. SEC bias nationally and at ESPN is off the charts. SEC could legitimately have 5 teams in playoffs.

It's time to get rid of the big 4 conference championship games

A friend just told me to look for SMU. New Subscriber. Vols fan.

The ACC is weak. South Carolina which is arguably the 4th, 5th or 6th best SEC team, is going to destroy Clemson in front of their own home crowd.

GT beat both your sorry teams

I love the wu tang reference❤️❤️ 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

I'll come yell with you KG. I got your back fam

SMU HAS NOT BEATEN ANYONE!! They got Beat by a weak ranked team in BYU, but no ranked wins under their belt. You could say Louisville when they were ranked, but so did Notre Dame. SMU barely beat Duke and Barely beat Nevada. STOP!! Their schedule is weak sauce. Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois is bad, but it was also a TRAP GAME. ND came off a high intensity prime time game with Texas A&M and won and then had to go into a weak team like Northern Illinois and lost. Bama did the same thing after beating Georgia and then went into Vanderbilt and lost. So stop the Brain dead hating/stupidity.

I think i read somewhere that if Virginia beats SMU and finishes ahead of Louisville that Clemson would win the tiebreaker over SMU.

Lol Miami would lose to bama, uga, ole miss and Tennessee. Let’s be real here. We lucky to be 8th with zero ranked wins

This is exactly something that drives me crazy people ask me all the time. How do I watch a Miami game? Where is it? The ACC TV contract sucks. Like at least get to play on your local channels.

I think a lot of the disrespect that SMU has gotten isn't so much anti ACC bias it's "they was in a G5 conference last year" bias

Absolutely! Pony Up!

I'm a Bama/SEC fan here. The problem with trying to compare SEC vs. ACC bias is at some point the ACC needs to schedule better OOC besides relying on Clemson and FSU. When those teams lose marquee games, it hurts your conference perception. Also, when was the last time the ACC had a Top 10 match up that didn't include Clemson or FSU in the conference?

Oregon struggled with Wisconsin and only won by 3 and ranked #1 but Alabama dominated Badgers in Madison. Big 10 overrated

There's 5 people on this podcast who cheer for a team who's never won a natty. I'd relax when you guys never win 10 games talking about FSU. 16/33 years FSU has won this garbage conference.

"SEC bias" is so stupid. Is everybody unable to recognize reality nowadays? Have the democrats really had such a detrimental affect on America? They refuse to use commmon sense, and you guys don't either? FACE IT. USE YOUR EYES AND COMMON SENSE! The SEC is a stronger conference, and if you can't admit it, then don't get mad when people with common sense laugh at you. What do you think would happen if Virginia and North Carolina joined the SEC? They would get better! They would become relevant in short order. If Mississippi State joined the ACC??? It would RUIN THEM, because they would lose any credibility. THAT'S why the ACC is troubled. You have lesser respect because you don't match up with the Power 2.

If NC State loses to North Carolina, there is a REAL possibility that Stanford could finish ABOVE NC State in ACC standings for their inaugural season. How many would have predicted such an outcome??? Near universally, Stanford was predicted to finish 17th in preseason due to their freshman heavy roster. I'd like to petition that KENTO must sport a Stanford jersey if that eventuality be the case 😂

Donno your out of your mind syracuse beat gt

Donno can we have a live squad next week

Thanks for the content. I have a slightly different take on why the ACC as a brand in Football gets a bad rap. It is television but for different reasons. There will not be one SEC game on National television that is not completely sold out at the stadium. Not one. The ACC cannot promise or rarely deliver, unless it is Clemson, Florida State, V. Tech and NC State and sometimes UNC, Pitt, G Tech. Some ACC teams do not have their own stadium, ACC schools public or private may not have a large local alumni base to go to the games, has older local alumni that may or may not go and are not known for loud packed atmospheres. It makes for a bad television product, which is the only way that these entertainment entities will recoup the money with ratings and ad buys which it pays to a conference for television rights. Therefore, the ACC should start to immediately follow the NFL model of stadium size and amenities. Stadiums with semi open or totally closed roofs would help. The ACC teams in football play in very hot and rainy weather in the fall and does not make a great stadium or television presentation and closed stadiums are louder which is an added benefit for the teams and television. I would also recommend an opt out of football for the private universities that may not want that type of investment to benefit all parties. Finally, I would have divisions but with a catch. The first three games of the season dictate which divisions you will be in. The only draw back being that you may not play enough teams in your division, but your ACC record still counts toward division leaders. Not perfect, but it fixes the issue of bad teams being buffed by bad schedules as they are less likely in the ACC title game, while adding more game by game accountability and less tie breaker issues over time. Not perfect but it would give media three things that they love. Great venues in which to enjoy a product, fuller louder stadiums and increased atmosphere, more races to follow and how impact changes weekly for the ACC as a whole and by divisions. Flexibility for member entities which increases buy in if the agencies want to participate makes revenue share equitable for schools who buy in with stadium investments. Fans win with more media recognition, better venues and races and rivalries that they can follow.

Regarding SEC Bias. The ACC is 2-5 this year vs SEC with 4 games to go. Until the ACC can win regularly against SEC schools, this is a silly conversation. If Miami goes on a run in the playoffs and wins 2 games against the best of the SEC, the conversation will shift to “Miami should be an SEC team”.

All the other conferences have to do is win when it matters vs SEC so they can't run out with their chest out screaming SEC pushing out bs narratives

Really appreciate Grayson’s insights on this episode. You can really tell he has his fingers on the pulse of ACC 🏈 Truly amazing perspective and commentary💪

"I don't want to make fun of ACC teams" you clowns trash FSU every pod

At 25:15, am I tripping or I tripping or does “PhD Scientist” just means doctors?

Go SMU!

How is UVA ahead UNC when UNC beat them 41-14?

Look at my last comment, None of that happened in the ACC.

Miami needs to show me difference on defense. Miami is known for their defense as far as championships. '83,87,89 ,91 and 2001 all had defensive performances that were above average. '92 Alabama beat us. 10 national titles played for with being on the sports Illustrated cover for dropping a program.

Guys so football is bigger than basketball but last year state and duke was almost equal with football

What were the 5 highest watched regular season games on that list?

I think that a power ranking could be made for our (UM) opponents based on how well those teams played us on that day. That list looks a little different than the overall list above. IMO. Thanks for the content, guys. I enjoy listening.

Pony Up 🐎 SMU

Follow up to my previous comment … they set up the rankings to kick miami out automatically if they lose to smu. Smu is not in the top 12. So if they get in, someone has to go out. They’re setting up the Acc championship game so that it’s an elimination game for the Acc despite their own claims it won’t be held against the loser. Call the lawyers!

The cfp has clearly said they will not hold conference championship game losses against The teams who lose. So if that’s true. No conference champion teams should drop out based on the end of season rankings unless it’s by a surprise conference champion who supersedes them due to the first round byes We literally need lawyers for these rules

That TCU-UGA was the reason why 13-0 FSU without Jordan Travis was left out and why ESPN doesn't want ACC/Big 12 teams for fear of losing views and $ because of a blowout

Don’t laugh at FSU! They’ll be back in 10 or 15 years.

Go SMU!

The ACC needs to beat team's in from Sec and biig ten because a lot of these acc teams are not that good good when playing sec and big ten the ACC needs to hire better coaches va tech should have hired Shane beamer Ncst should hire a better coach Dan Mullins hire better coaches ACC

…funnest part is FSU is still the most viewed ACC twam this season…THAT is how worthless the rest of your programs are🤷🏻‍♂️😂😂

😂😂😂it is absolutely ADORABLE to watch Syracuse & other lesser CFB fans pretend to talk sports😂😂

Clemson was missing a half of their starters. Feels like a talking point that was missed.

It’s about money.