Copy the string in description, then in game at the bottom left of your talent panel you can import it

@@Shadenox Thanks man , great video!

I use LW head and PvP weapons, but you could use the other ones you mentioned as long as you keep above 30% versa

THis season is much more cleave oriented so you wouldn't use a ST build, but overall it remains relevant. As for my UI it's just a display that I like, I show spells with a cooldown (twice), and hide the others. You can notice that Mutilate or Envenom are not on my bars, for instance.

@@Shadenox what is st build? Ah okai the ui seems irritating for me 😅 but thanks for the answer

@@dustinbrandt9912 ST is single target. If my memory is correct I showed one st build and one AoE build in this guide because the meta was very different when I made it. Currently, we simply AoE people

There is a Survival Hunter, an Evoker or both against me in every round but one. It's more valuable to not press Deathmark if they don't use their bleed dispel beforehand

Check on the percentage of your auto-attack dmg, and calculate how much it would increase your dmg. On 2s its easier to keep it up

It has, in fact, many more benefits than merely increasing autoattack damage. Since you autoattack more often you also apply more poisons. In a season such as the current one where we only play Wound it's not that important, but with more single target focused builds with Deadly Poison it's a significant damage increase. And, finally, if you play kingsbane and try to ramp up the DoT it will get much stronger if you attack the target with SnD active because you'll apply more poisons. In the end, for all Rogue specs, Slice and Dice appears are "white dmg increase", but in fact it helps with another mechanic for every spec. For Assa, it's poison applications and everything tied to it, for Sub it's CP and Energy generation, and for Outlaw it's Energy generation and damage procs

I can't disagree, this is full on mythic plus. I wish get get a viable build centered around Envenom and poison damage on the main target soon.

well rupture last for 25 secs with 5 combo points and then you only need to keep garrote up in that time. You can slice at 3-4 combo points and it doesn't matter since ur envenoms will reset duration. you even have time to hit a crimson tempest if you got the talent for some added bleeds on the other targets.

@@misefalfaie750 2 (or 3) x rupture, garrote (it’s a time waste walking and not gaining CPs), crimson tempest, kidney and then you need usually more than one envenom to keep SnD up. If you add the considerable amount of CC we get vs comps with shamans, or the plentiful bleed immunities (dark iron, paladin, evoker) then it becomes hard to keep slice up - for me that is.

@hdim1 yeah i guess its more about the timing of when you start your snd in order for you to be able to finish everything up before it runs out after envenom. What i usually do is i sap, cheapshot-deathmark-garrote-rupture(at 4 cp) then i just thistle tea, shadowdance, cheapshot again, get a kidney with 5cp, and only snd afterwards, and try to reset with vanish and go all in

could anyone explain why slice is important i don't see the point of 50% attack speed , does it give energy proc ? the dmg from auto attack is inexistant so why does it matter

@phosetgc2595 it matters for min max and for throughput which is most important in arena. Besides all that, you have the poison re-applications which deal bonus instant damage besides re-applying the debuffs

I feel like when you die it's so overkill that in the end pre feinting isn't always that good even if you're good at it. But Cheat Death is as tilting as ever since it works only half the time.

Yeah it really pisses me out when cheat bugs​@@Shadenox

In this case you kind of want to try and hit the closest, spread dots if they push for CC on your healer, else spread dots when you kidney the closest and can run safely to the next guy for a few seconds. Don't be afraid to retreat, get a pillar, get a restealth, then open again in their backlane with garrotes, then step garrote back to the one closest to your healer etc

@@Shadenox Thank you for reply) I'll try)

I look through most of my recordings, and if we badly lost in one I try to find out what I could do better to win, then delete it. I prefer to upload the ones in which I actually didn't do many mistakes, or fixed them.

@Shadenox understandable I'd like yo see a mistake video not like 0 an 6 but where improvements can be made and commentary it :)

Well, the same way only it's harder. On some maps when people are super spread out and impossible to reach (like, say MM Frost RDruid on Maldraxxus) then you can sit behind a pillar to force them to come closer so you can get some cleave in, then retreat, and so on

@@Shadenox thanks for the answere. Yeah i get loads of mm hunters atm in my lobbys😅

@@macnaby9851 MM is definitely very though to face

Nothing Rogue specific. You'll need the usual PvP ones everyone has though, so Gladius/SArena, Omnibar, OmniCD, BigDebuffs, that sort of stuff

It doesn't do that. It shows what I *used*.

oh ok. trying to get better at my rogue

Subterfuge is, Crimson is not. But if you don't pick Crimson there is nowhere useful to put the extra point in, so might as well play it.

@@Shadenox thank you!

Kick Disintegrate a lot, or Gouge it early in the channel if you cannot kick. Don't hold interrupt for Sleep Walk or he'll just kill you. Other than that ... It is just annoying to face as early in the match he has all his Hover charges so he can easily kite, but later in the game it becomes more manageable. I also like to Blind Gouge their burst as well if they don't have Shroud, but then you need to let your partner know beforehand. It rarely works in Shuffle

@@Shadenox okey thanks for the tip!

Go for 30% versa then invest into other secondaries

Because there is an Evoker. It's better to not press the spell vs Evoker, because then he never dispels bleeds. If you use it, he will dispel everything so you end up with less bleeds than before using Deathmark, and he can use it a second time 1min later and still have it back for the next Deathmark.

I use them mainly at different times, usually to bait a defensive cd or evoker dispell. Then go for the kill with kingsbane. Not shadenox level but im currently at 2450 in shuffle playing that way 👍🏼

@@kysyms1 gotcha thanks. Just a few game he didnt use DM at all so was confused

I usually not use them together unless it's a 100% guaranteed kill. Also vs Evokers I never use it unless they bleed dispel something else, vs Survival I only use it when Mening Bandage is on CD, and vs Paladins it's a bit situation dependant, but lets say I don't use it when I think it would give him a great BoP, like if I already have insane damage or a stun coming up and such I'll hold onto Deathmark forever until he uses BoP, and THEN I'll press Deathmark on the target when they are on Forbearance and can't be BoP'ed again. That way my Deathmark doesn't get cleansed.

You cannot stealth in one button push sadly. Either you hit your meld keybind and then your stealth keybind quickly, or you make a /cast Shadowmeld /cast Stealth macro and you press it twice

@@Shadenox thanks! Would love to see you do some 2s videos!

slice is defo good.. its passive healing w/ recoup and it turns into a decent amount of dmg. but like in openers and stuff its way more important to get garrotes and bleeds up... then slice on your first global with a few combo points th at doesnt mean much.... making sure you envenom will keep it up entire game from that point with Cut to the chase talent.

It's good but not as valuable as applying/reapplying your bleeds to everybody, so it doesn't take precedence over that. And so, between having o reapply bleeds, using Kidney Shot and using Envenom on goes, you don't always have time for it. It's also not as important as before because no 4x poisons, so autoattacks matter less

back in the day haste was king, but mastery / vers is the way to go now.... ive tested haste builds.... its not really any benefit.... but big mastery big vers and like 30 percent crit feels super good right now... back when you had an energy pool of 120 haste felt so much better, but with like 300 energy lolol its fine

I have 1% because it's on my wrists, but I'd even go with 0 if those wrists had crit or something. Haste isn't needed if you play the cleave spec in comps that allow you to cleave at all times. If you play something that requires a bit more single target damage then a bit of haste is nice to avoid running out of energy

I think when The War Within hits I'll try to keep a more disciplined schedule on the videos and will do some text ones, some voiceover ones, etc etc. We'll see how the channel does if I manage to do that!

only if ur fan spec... like in 2s i use ambush / mutilate for combo point generation mostly....

Yeah if there are several targets FoK is miles better than any other builder we have

tbh，i think the assassin rogue can always win casters lobby everytime, big counter for them, silence and cc

Frost Mage actually kind of counters Assassination in Solo Shuffle. But yeah those triple caster lobbies can be hard or easy, it ***really*** depends on the map, and also on what casters. If it's like Demono + Frost + Boomy, super hard. If it's Ele + SP + Fire, rather easy.

i too sometimes have trouble with them if they tunnel me. but disarm / evasion / vanish / meld ends up being a lot... sometimes getting away and making them turn attention elsewhere is enough in shuffle... or pulling them in a bad spot so they dont get heals

You are very squicky, but now with Carnage and so many ways to access stealth you'll do more damage than melee cleaves, which compensates for being so squishy. So, your goal is to wear all 3 enemies down before you die and you do that by maximizing your cleave damage while rotating Disarm, Kidney, Evasion Cloak and Vanish

This is a Shadowlands guide. Marked for Death has been removed since then.

I am not really in tune with the 2v2 meta right now, but I don't think Evoker Assa is that great of a comp. It lacks the damage Disc brings, and it lacks the healing & CC RDruid brings, so it's just some middle ground that gets overshadowed by Assa Disc in aggressive playstyle, and overshadowed by Assa RDruid in dampening playstyle. Outlaw Evoker used to be good, but I do think Assa is a better spec overall tight now, until you start q'ing into too many Survival Hunters.

@@Shadenox Thanks! for the answer. You do you think of Assa/sp/hpala in 3s? would it work or even be good in this meta?

@@macnaby9851 Assa SP works, HPal isn't great though

@@Shadenox aight thanks🤙

@@Shadenox btw in assas/sp Hpala would be bether then presservation right?

I usually use Deathmark in between two Shadow Dance so that people waste defensives on Deathmark and I can kill them with Dance. As for the burst rotation well, with Deathmark you just want to make sure all your bleeds are up, Kidney, Shiv, and spam Envenom, and with Dance stun, Shiv, Kingsbane, reapply buffed Garrote then spam Envenom (really simply said).

@@Shadenox Ty so much, ım understand :)

If you play my build, you'll find that if you remove the point in Crimson Tempest you basically can't pick anything else good. So, you pick it, and only use it when there are enough targets.

You can play kind of whatever you like in random BGs. Mostly I go with my arena build to be fair

Yeah I hardly use it in my rotations xd Looks like I might have to start haha

It deals the same if not more dmg than Mutilate on one single target, has a higher critical strike chance, and thanks to Seal Fate gives additional Combo Points on crits, so it can fill your entire CP bar with one press if you crit on enough targets. So, unless you'd break CC there is really no reason to use Mutilate these days.

use garotte SHIV then rupture then pop your kingsbane together with usetrink and shadowdance. you welcome

You need to only use it during your Shadow Dance, while the target has the Shiv debuff, and you have on-use trinket + thistle tea buffs (you can macro these two with Shadow Dance so you use all 3 at the same time, all 3 are 1min CD). If you make such a macro you just need to press Dance, Shiv, and Kingsbane. if it crits, it hits big.

@@Shadenox yea. I was doing that but the fact is. Im doing most of my hits without using rupture to 3+ targets. Because there is a talent that increases agility when is up in targets. So i didnt read that. Ty for the info

It's just visual, I display only CDs on those bars. My actual bars with keybinds are hidden

Stealth Garrote > Rupture > normal Garrote regarding the main bleeds. Then, regarding Crimson Tempest you use it only if it hits enough targets to deal relevant damage on the players you hit (since the damage scales with how many targets you got, so, you wouldn't CT a single player, but you could CT a single player + 4 BM Hunter pets, for instance, or simply 3 players), but you also need to make sure that when you use CT you have enough Garrotes and Ruptures rolling so that you have very high energy, because Sanguine Blades will spend energy on CT and you don't want that to cause you to skip Sanguine Blade procs on your other bleeds, which are stronger -I don't know if I was very clear, if not I'll explain better, let me know)

@@Shadenox That makes perfect sense! Thank you! I'm pretty casual compared to you guys so I normally just do bgs but CT totally cooks people in big fights. Used to love dot specs like Shadow and Afflication but Assa is my favorite now.

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