This man didn't understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He didn't preach good news. It's not good news that you can be saved, if God eternally decreed you to be saved anyway. It's not good news to hear the Gospel if God eternally decreed that you could never be saved. It's dark, Calvinism is. Very dark. Jesus came to bring life and more abundantly. He came to give the fruit of the Spirit in our hearts and lives. He came to heal. He came to give us victory. And finally an eternal home in his eternal presence.

Peter makes a Problematic Statement? This man doesn't believe God says what he means, nor means what he says. It's not Peter, it's the very Holy Ghost, the third person of the Trinity, God himself who makes this statement. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. You have to have a man to help you Misunderstand this.

it is not only illogical, it is anti-Scripture. I absolutely find it difficult to believe that so many people believe this drivel and heresy. He makes it up. I would be literally afraid to add to God's Holy Word like he does, or did since he's passed. There is not one instance in the Scripture. However, the Holy Ghost has said, Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. You repent first, then believe. Matthew 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him. Acts 2:34-39. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Through faith. The gift is Salvation, not the faith. Faith comes by hearing the Word. Leighton Flowers has several videos on this. And Mr. Flowers is much nicer than I am. And again, to believe this you must believe that God sends babies who are not elect to hell. Because they are morally dead and can't believe. Therefore they are in hell now according to his false doctrine.

If you believe that, then you believe that God on purpose created people, human beings, created in his own image for the sole purpose of burning them in hell for ever. Which means by default that God sends babies to hell. If you accused my earthly Father of this to my face you would need help getting up. HIs understanding of Romans 9 is flawed so bad. It's a very sad day in history when Augustine came up with this heresy. If he. Sproul, made it to heaven he now knows how wrong he was. If he wasn't one of the elect :), then he knows also. Becasue you never know if you are elect or not until the day you die.

1. Believing the good news message of the gospel comes by hearing it preached: Romans 10[17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 2. God has commanded that the good news message of the gospel is to be preached to all people: Mark 16[15] And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Luke 24[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Matthew 24[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 3. If God has pre-condemned millions of people before they were born, then preaching the good news of the gospel to them is commanding them to do what they God will not allow them to do. 4. Therefore, preaching the good news of the gospel to those whom God has pre-condemned constitutes telling them a lie. 5. God cannot lie: Titus 1[2] In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;[3] But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; 6. Therefore, since the good news of the gospel message cannot be a lie, the gospel message according to the calvinist is not the gospel message of the Bible. 7. Since the gospel message of the calvinist is not the gospel message of the Bible, it constitutes an other gospel. 8. The Word of God tells us that those who preach an other gospel are condemned for doing so: Galatians 1[8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.[9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 9. Therefore, calvinism is not true and calvinist are condemned by God for preaching an other gospel.

The "doctrine" holds that God creates some people for the sole purpose of tormenting them for all eternity. I challenge you to think of a more evil idea. He could elect them, but he doesn't, because.... he wants to show how mighty and sovereign he is... If I beat up a child to show how strong I was, that'd be good then? It's wild how Calvinists can't see just how terrible their worldview is. As I said, try to come up with a worse one. You can't.

Jews ain't gonna like this story!

Amen

Number one, it's not Armenians vs Calvinism. It's Biblical truth vs Calvinism. Trying to say man has free will, yet God decreed all things and even decreed that most people will go to hell with no hope, is so anti logical i haven't the words to describe it. Of course man wills to do what God made him do. What a bunch of double speak. His statement of his view of how I view man's free will is not only condescending, but is so anti-Scriptural - how does anyone ever listen to this man? it's sad that people actually believe this drivel. Seriously, think people. Think. Read the Scriptures.

He is not describing the T in tulip. He is not describing what calvism teaches which they call total depravity. He just described what i and most christians teach that the bible says. We are all born sinners in need of a Saviour. No matter how potentially good we think we are. Our goodness doesnt hold a candle to God's holiness.

The Bible is so simple and getting saved is so simple, you have to have a Reformed or Evangelical Theologian to help you misunderstand it. 😄

"What father holding his little girl’s hand crossing a busy street would ever let it go? The more she pulls, the tighter he squeezes. There is no way she is going anywhere! Is God any different? The argument that a person can choose hell by rejecting God as a result of 'free' will is in effect saying a little girl has more strength than her dad. God has given man a 'measure' of free will, but certainly not to the degree that He would allow him or her to damn themselves forever in torment. Is God less of a parent than we are (Matt. 7:11)?" -- Gerry Beauchemin, _Hope Beyond Hell,_ 2010, pg. 38 People can resist God for longer than a lifetime, but not forever: "And I [Jesus], when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself." (John 12:32)

He always explained things so well. For anyone that’s still incredulous, it’s because you don’t believe you are dead in your trespasses and sins and that the only one who can bring you back to life is Christ Jesus. Think Lazarus. Amen.

could you please share the full version of god's law and society? thanks for share it!! SDG

If it is true, that God only shall save thoses who he has elected to salvation, and in that sense, tbat means when you "come to Christ" God had already determined to save you, than there is no reason to evangelise. However, this isn't the case, all men are free, and capable of putting their trust In Christ alone for salvation. Allot trickery from the enemy has hidden themselves as pastors and clergy and likewise. Read the Scripture in CONTEXT. same way you read any book. Otherwise youll be mislead by the enemy. Christ be with you all.

God gave man free will to either obey Him or disobey Him, to come to Him for salvation or reject His offer of salvation and therefore eternal separation from God…..there’s no such thing as the Elect as the Calvinists have stated. The best example that proves that the idea that man has no free will is false is illustrated in the garden when Adam and Eve disobeyed Gods orders not to eat the fruit from the tree… the knowledge of good and evil. They willfully repeat willfully disobeyed God …in other words they had the free will to disobey God and they did. Therefore the Calvinistic doctrine that man has no free will (as well as all the other 5 points of Calvinism is concerned) is absolutely alien to what the Scriptures teach.

This is a joke right?

Amen! Yes

Way to spin this verse RC. Talk about people “adding to the text”.

It is an internal change that takes place within us, through the power of His Spirit, before we can truly believe and trust in Him. We may be able to understand the message of the gospel in our own wisdom before He enters, but it is our spirit reborn when we can truly see the depths of His mercy upon us. And it is only with open eyes that we truly repent for we cannot truly understand the measurement of His sacrifice that leads us on a lifelong commitment to Him until He opens our eyes to His truth. That is the miracle of salvation. Those who have been saved have received the greatest miracle - Amazing Grace.

Such gobble goob, such double talk and such lack, that it's the blind leading the blind. Such, straining to catch a nat they swallow the whole camel. They strain so hard and squeeze so tightly with their hermeneutics they kill by the letter of GOD'S Word. They become so obsessed, obsessed with a hardness that it becomes hatred and trows out the Love of God. And turns away even their own elect...

at the end she said she doesn't know what her purpose was for coming back, and that she was sure that God would tell her.... my question to that is What the hell did they talk about for those 17 hours? Sports?

Beautiful explanation.

"What father holding his little girl’s hand crossing a busy street would ever let it go? The more she pulls, the tighter he squeezes. There is no way she is going anywhere! Is God any different? The argument that a person can choose hell by rejecting God as a result of 'free' will is in effect saying a little girl has more strength than her dad. God has given man a 'measure' of free will, but certainly not to the degree that He would allow him or her to damn themselves forever in torment. Is God less of a parent than we are (Matt. 7:11)? We extend increasing freedom to our children as they mature. Too much too soon is disastrous. He knows just how much freedom we need for our development." -- Gerry Beauchemin, _Hope Beyond Hell,_ 2010, pg. 38

Isn’t RC Sproul a Calvinist?

Try applying those concepts to that of courtship guys? God giving His creatures a free will to believe in Him does not contradict His sovereignty. That is why the Church is His bride not His concubine. Whosoever come to Me, I will in no way cast out. ❤ you guys😊

Calvin’s Institutes Book 3 chapter 21 says, “2. “We have come into the way of faith,” says Augustine: “let us constantly adhere to it. It leads to the chambers of the king, in which are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. For our Lord Jesus Christ did not speak invidiously to his great and most select disciples when he said, ‘I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now,’ (John 16:12). We must walk, advance, increase, that our hearts may be able to comprehend those things which they cannot now comprehend. “ Given that faith doesn’t operate on the Calvinist view the way it does in every other human endeavor but we are just transported their through election how is it that Augustine (the fountainhead of this imputed faith idea), ask his readers to make conscious effort to maintain faith? Since nothing was done to obtain it why think we can possibly lose what God supernaturally decreed? 😅

Thank God she's gone after seeing the interview with her almost aborted daughter i can see why she never forgave Norma and neither would i Pro choice put yourself in The baby's shoes and dee how you feel

I was at that conferance when i was actively involved in maranatha ministries in pullman washington. We all rented a hotel room near the conferance. We would stay up until 2 am praying for each other and studying the word of God. I WANT THIS FIRE OF GOD AGAIN AND DESIRE TO BRING REVIVAL TO COLLEGE CAMPUSES INTERNATIONALLY!!!

I can imagine the scene in Heaven. St Augustine, John Calvin, and all the other Calvinists dining at the banquet table with the Lord while all the barley saved Arminians are scrambling underneath it grabbing the scraps saying,” If we only believed in the TULIP we could be sitting up there!!

If God is God, why did he let Satan come into the Garden? I’ll tell you: because God would be an unfair God if he gave us free choice, but then no choices what choice did they have? God spoke to them, and if they didn’t hear anything else but God, what’s the point of free choice? That’s why he let the serpent in God says something, the serpent says something else, and they believe the serpent and choose to disobey God because God is Holy, they had to separate from God in sin and ever since there’s been a war and the war one day will end when every single person on the planet hears about Jesus has the same opportunity as Adam and Eve.

If God is God, why did he let Satan come into the Garden? I’ll tell you: because God would be an unfair God if he gave us free choice, but then no choices what choice did they have? God spoke to them, and if they didn’t hear anything else but God, what’s the point of free choice? That’s why he let the serpent in God says something, the serpent says something else, and they believe the serpent and choose to disobey God because God is Holy, they had to separate from God in sin and ever since there’s been a war and the war one day will end when every single person on the planet hears about Jesus has the same opportunity as Adam and Eve.

If God is God, why did he let Satan come into the Garden? I’ll tell you: because God would be an unfair God if he gave us free choice, but then no choices what choice did they have? God spoke to them, and if they didn’t hear anything else but God, what’s the point of free choice? That’s why he let the serpent in God says something, the serpent says something else, and they believe the serpent and choose to disobey God because God is Holy, they had to separate from God in sin and ever since there’s been a war and the war one day will end when every single person on the planet hears about Jesus has the same opportunity as Adam and Eve.

Hallelujah, truly miss RC Sproul.

They said they had witnesses. You know that right? That’s how it got started, with people coming forward saying they had been affected by it. Then others saying they saw people doing it. And if it’s an invisible crime why does the Bible say Saul (1 Samuel 28:8-24) witnessed witch craft?

Speaking of false teachers, Mr. Sproul, you are a false teacher

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX-tgYOHl69-kKMsi=kkELtdx4vfyUed3g No, Mr. Sproul must Neil before Jesus and given accounting for his false teaching of Calvinism

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX-tgYOHl69-kKMsi=kkELtdx4vfyUed3g No, Mr. Sproul must Neil before Jesus and given accounting for his false teaching of Calvinism

The doctrines of grace are biblically sound . Reformed theology is basic Christianity.

I wanted nothing to do with God , but he turned my world upside down,now He is the world to me.

Can't answer the question. Tells you all you need to know.

A better question would be how does evangelism make sense under Calvinism?

Gentry states His coming in the clouds is apocalyptic language, but Acts 1:9-11 tells us his ascension and returning in the clouds is physical. I esteem RC Sprouls but was quite disappointed to learn he had embraced the preterist viewpoint, which as i studied, concluded is too metaphysical. Also, this teaching came out in 17th/18th century but didn't gain traction until they concluded John's patmos imprisonment was 68ad instead of 95ad. Dr Stephen Whitsett academia paper challenging Gentry's time frame is quite convincing.

R.C. Sproul is not addressing the real issue that Calvinism asserts. According to Calvinistic compatibilism that most Calvinists hold to, we will what we will but God determines what we will. God foreordains the Fall of man is the will of each man. The Founding leader of the Westminster Theological Seminary J. Gresham Machen states the problem: “We have said that God has foreordained whatsoever comes to pass. The sinful actions of sinful men are things that come to pass. Yet we deny that God is the author of them and we put the responsibility for them upon man… How can we possibly do that? Are we not involving ourselves in hopeless contradiction?…How can a Holy God, if he is all-powerful have permitted the existence of sin?...” “The answer is found in the fact that although God foreordains whatsoever comes to pass, he causes the bringing of those things to pass in widely different ways. He does not cause the bringing to pass of the actions of personal beings in the same way as the way in which he causes the bringing to pass of events in the physical world. That is true even of the good actions of men who are his children. Even when God causes those men to do certain things by the gracious influence of his Holy Spirit, he does not deal with them as with sticks or stones, but he deals with them as with men. He does not cause them to do those things against their will, but he determines their will, and their freedom as persons is fully preserved when they perform those acts. The acts remain their acts, even though they are led to do them by the Spirit of God.” - “What is Predestination?”

"I didn't have a clue as to how it happened". That's what the discussion between calvinists and arminians is not about one or the other having a different gospel.... we all believe that we are saved by grace through faith. the discussion is about what God did to bring us to that faith.

Then according to Calvin, the meaning of repent (Metanoia) = A change of mind totally is incorrect, what is the point of saying you need to change your mind which represents a free choice from unbelief to belief but according to point one of Calvinism total depravity that than nullifies what Jesus and John the Baptist was asking us to do, so than this makes Calvinism not make sense. What about Adam and Eve God clearly gave them a free choice if God (and he knew already) they were going to fall than did he already predestined them to go to Hell before they fell OR did God choose them to be saved and the rest of Mankind to choose who will go to heaven or hell???, I am really doing my head in just trying to think about this which would say to me Calvin was preaching heresy...Free Grace of Jesus Christ is indeed free and simple! “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day”. John 6:40

So, to be theologically correct, Paul should have told the jailer, "Be saved, and then you will believe on the Lord Jesus"? Hmm ...

Who is here in 2024

He’s a lot more charitable than Some self proclaimed Arminians are towards anyone even remotely Calvinist/ Reformed. They’ll straight up call God evil and a rapist just to disagree with you.

Its not our righteousness, its holy spirit sanctifying