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@shawnzeppo4361 Күн бұрын

Ian, Yet another quick question (on a 3 year old video, if you are kind enough to address this)... @20:46 the second demon unit (red) is using their initiative to charge the marauders. The first of the red stands appears to pass through a portion of the golden demons in order to get into center-to-center contact with the marauders. I don't think that would be legal, as the rules (pg 36) state: "...This stand must be able to see the enemy and must have a clear path to the target." I question whether there is clear path to the target in this situation, as you cannot move through friendly units in the game, besides a special situation like a Burst Through, and even then, the unit being moved though must be unengaged in combat (which includes supporting units). Are you really allowed to slip laterally a centimeter in order to line up with the target stand center unit as shown? That is, the term "Clear Path", does not have to be a direct path AND you can slip laterally to line up, even when you are touching the enemy? In this example, you would be in contact with both the golden demons AND the marauders, before the lateral movement is made.

@iainmstanding Күн бұрын

Of course! A clear path does not have to be a straight line, nor the shortest route, when charging. So the charging stand can pivot around the golden demons. When the first charging stand makes contact to the nearest enemy stand, it must form up in front edge to edge contact. There is no rule to state that the first charging stand halts at the point first contact is made. So in this case, the first charging stand is compelled to form up against the central enemy stand by sliding in to place across the front of the enemy unit. It will not interesect any other stands when doing so. Remaining stands then form a battle line but cannot move through the first charging stand.

@shawnzeppo4361 22 сағат бұрын

@@iainmstanding Thanks for that interpretation. We will play it that way. I would note, however, that this seems like a logical inconsistency with the example @24:50. Just because the golden demons in that example cannot see or contact the rear of the marauders (understanding that they are in their rear zone which is blocked by impassable terrain), it would seem consistent with the above interpretation (where you can slide around to make contact), that this charge couldn't be made with a single order, hitting the Marauder's flank. I guess I will have to take that one up with the Rules Committee! 🤷‍♀

@iainmstanding 21 сағат бұрын

@@shawnzeppo4361 indeed, the charge zones rule can create illogical situations. However it's intent is to prevent crazy charges where you move past the target unit and then charge a flank.

@jeremy8936 2 күн бұрын

Wonderfully wonderful in all its wonder..

@shelfunit 3 күн бұрын

Magical stuff - and those Advanced Heroquest wound counters are useful in every game 😂

@thepavl 4 күн бұрын

We gotta give shout out for the excellent 90s electro playing ❤

@davidwasilewski 4 күн бұрын

Aquarium terrain! Very old school. Awesome.

@Jimbo818 5 күн бұрын

Yess, Epic! I genuinely like all versions of this game. Have you tried the fan made ones? Gold etc..

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

@@Jimbo818 I've had a look at gold but dislike some of the changes to the army lists. With a few house rules 2nd ed is still my favourite.

@Jimbo818 5 күн бұрын

@iainmstanding yeah, gold was my first foray into the older system. I like that praetorians have hit templates in it, so makes them more viable/interesting. However I will say it definitely lacks the polish warmaster revolution has got.

@thecrownofcommand5830 5 күн бұрын

Wonderful o see my favorite game on the table top here mate. But the music is driving me nuts 😂 I hope to see you make more Epic content in the future ❤

@MaoPangStudio 5 күн бұрын

Loved playing this game as a teenager, still looks great!

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

Same here!

@Kasigil0 5 күн бұрын

What version of epic are you playing? me and my friends play NETEA

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

@@Kasigil0 2nd edition space marine, the boxed set.

@HeadCannonPrime 5 күн бұрын

I generally like the narration in your videos. I'm hoping to see more Epic in the future as small scale is my preferred scale these days.

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

More to come!

@davidwasilewski 4 күн бұрын

Me too! 10mm and below for ‘proper’ epic sized battles.

@saint_miroku6045 5 күн бұрын

Your leadership will be remembered when the name Volistad is spoken, hail to The Emperor!

@LordMacKaber 5 күн бұрын

I startet epic last month. I must say its realy fun. Only thing anoying is how fraktured the playerbase is. Warmaster has a top dog sistem with revolution but even in the same citty there are often multiple rulesets in use.

@stevovondivo2326 5 күн бұрын

@@LordMacKaber so true!! Check out Minigeddon, we played that a lot and it was tight!

@confuzed6 5 күн бұрын

Reminds me that I was going to break out my armies and try to set up a Warcry-esq campaign with small story missions on small boards just to see if it would be fun….

@Gunnery2 5 күн бұрын

Great to see the old minis on the table. Brings back many happy memories playing space marine.

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

Yes indeed!

@stevovondivo2326 5 күн бұрын

Amazing, enjoyed the music too! How'd the bikes 12:21 assault the Marines tho? Look forward to rematch! 😊

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

@@stevovondivo2326 the rhinos were outside the buildings so got jumped!

@paulturner9675 5 күн бұрын

Wow, this takes me back to my first ever wargame ... and I still have them all in boxes. Thanks Iain.

@iainmstanding 5 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@allanrichardson4184 8 күн бұрын

Our kev woke up thinking Wherever i may roam, with metallica rockin on his earpods

@allanrichardson4184 8 күн бұрын

Hi there, love the warmaster videos. Its Sad but true. Keep them coming :)

@pansarskott1 15 күн бұрын

Zombies taking rout-test????

@iainmstanding 15 күн бұрын

@@pansarskott1 yes, zombies could rput in 3rd edition.

@pansarskott1 15 күн бұрын

@@iainmstanding Well I be damed. I only played 6th and above…

@williamford3605 16 күн бұрын

This was an awesome introduction video to Warmaster. As a 35 y/o now trying to get into it, this couldn't have been better for me to watch thank you!

@supermaraudergirl9770 16 күн бұрын

3:47 the wording of this rule is confusing to me. Left column establishes half pace movement on a failed command roll, but doesn't say it only counts for the first command directed at a troop each round. Then in the right column a restriction is made, but not referencing which movement this applies to. I thought, this rule means that if a second or third command fails, you have to undo *all* movement that troop already made that command phase. Only now with your explanation I get what it means. Just make clear that half pace is only allowed for the first failed command per troop per command phase in the left column and ditch the sentence in the right column. Way less confusing.

@stefan-georgfuchs9618 19 күн бұрын

Love this Game. Your Predator theme music and Arni "Dutch Schaefer" Schwarzenegger is great...time flies...

@ivaneeh4211 19 күн бұрын

Dude has the smoothest, sexiest voice

@klauszoidberg999 24 күн бұрын

thank you for the update. What is the background music you use for this video?

@iainmstanding 24 күн бұрын

@@klauszoidberg999 baldur's gate 3 soundtrack.

@klauszoidberg999 24 күн бұрын

I find warmaster a little bit too complex (especially the extensive combat rules). I would prefer it to be more like Hail Caesar, a later variant.

@petrhovado5590 2 сағат бұрын

Do you play WMR? What you describe has got more to say about the way it's explained in the books, actual gameplay is pretty straightforward

@klauszoidberg999 55 минут бұрын

@@petrhovado5590 I played Warmaster a couple of times, but I always found Hail Caesar similar but much more refined and modern. Its not nearly as complex as warmaster. One of the reasons wm was not successful was IMO the convoluted overcomplex (for this type of "warhammer style" games) combat system. Hail Caesars is simpler, faster and more fun while still offering the 2 elements which I like in WM - the simple unit statline and the order system. WMR is not much different than the original, maybe its a little bit better and has learned from the shortcomings of the original, but its still not good enough for me. The devs didnt dare to tackle the bigger issues of old WM, IMO. And speaking of good game systems in this style. There is fantastic new game rule from the Perries and Jervis Johnson I think. Valor and Fortitude is its name. Currently there are only Napoleonics and ACW but in future there will be medieval rules too. V&F is again much better than Hail Caesar so I will switch completely with my warmaster collection to this masterpiece when the medieval rules are released.

@SMC01ful 25 күн бұрын

Great army list. Would have been good for Albion to have had a beserk option as well. The fanatic type, berserker troops were actually a pretty common troop type in Western Europe from antiquity to the Dark Ages. Albions lads would have much the same stats, but less armour. One idea might simply be to pay points for ogres and use beserk models.

@Kreated_by_khaos 28 күн бұрын

is that the music from the dark crystal i hear there ? great video

@strangersun7721 29 күн бұрын

Love your videos as i start getting up to speed with Revolutions after last playing Warmaster 20 years ago. Do you have any suggestions for STL makers for 10mm daemons? I'm not finding a lot.

@iainmstanding 29 күн бұрын

@@strangersun7721 tordominis and varus miniatures do good ranges.

@shawnzeppo4361 Ай бұрын

Quick question right off the bat... Since Orcs have infravision (they can see in the IR spectrum) and love the darkness, why would they care about reaching the opposite end of the pass by nightfall? Come to think of it, why not just attack at night when they would have a huge advantage over the humans, if not the Dwarves?

@iainmstanding Ай бұрын

@@shawnzeppo4361 for the same reason that you can't fly the ring to mordor using eagles.

@SMC01ful Ай бұрын

Fantastic. I enjoy warmaster and it's coming from the pre dei era. Moreover, I disliked the direction gw took with their later minis and I dislike the woodelves look in the total war series. War dancers, in their earlier incarnation had a really cool ancient British Celtic warrior look. One or two female models were there, but they were a nice option and looked as feral as the guys. Nowadays, they're entirely female, with impractical looking flowing robes and look nothing like they used too. Hence, the old Gaelic look, has gone. Indeed, it's a problem with the look of all modern woodelves today. It's just a bunch of boring folks in green.

@strangersun7721 Ай бұрын

Ha! Loved the sneaky She-ra image. Great video.

@shawnzeppo4361 Ай бұрын

Thanks again for the excellent videos. Reading the rulebook and going through your videos are a great way to pick up the game quicky, but your videos may not have been updated to reflect current rules changes. In the current version of the rules versus your example @16:16 instead of being confused and not moving, the blocked retreating stands would just be eliminated if they were forced to retreat into the enemy, this is also true if they would if they were forced to retreat over their own units who were engaged in combat (ref Blocked Retreats, pg 46). I think I like this interpretation better, as just getting confused really doesn't make sense when forced to retreat into an enemy or even in front of a friendly shield wall engaged in another combat, I think the unit would be doomed.

@iainmstanding Ай бұрын

@@shawnzeppo4361 In this example the unit is not retreating, as it did not lose combat. Instead it is falling back from a drawn combat. See page 51 of the rulebook.

@shawnzeppo4361 Ай бұрын

@@iainmstanding Thanks for the further explanation. Have to keep the terminology straight here, in these more defined rules systems: Fallback not equal to a Retreat.

@iainmstanding Ай бұрын

@@shawnzeppo4361 yes it is very confusing. I usually refer to fall backs as "fall back in good order" to differentiate between retreats.

@shawnzeppo4361 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the excellent videos and answering all the questions in the discussion below. Given the importance of shooting, and of getting enough hits on a single unit to remove a stand, do you require that all shots be called in advance, before any results are rolled? Understand this is only important when you have 2 or more potential targets that are equidistant from the closest portion of the firing unit, as you are always required to shoot at the closest target... Also, what minimum distance do you consider to be close enough to be considered equidistant, within a centimeter?

@iainmstanding Ай бұрын

@@shawnzeppo4361 thanks for watching! I generally use millimetres to decide which target is closer, so if one target is 10.4 cm (104 mm) away and another is 10.6 cm (106mm), you have to target the first. If there is still a choice of targets, then declare the target at the point you make the shooting attack. So for example, you have a unit of cannon that must target an enemy unit of knights, and a unit of crossbows that may target the same enemy unit of knights. The cannon go first and cause 2 hits. The crossbows can now choose to add their fire to the same target to try and remove a stand.

@h.a.9880 Ай бұрын

I've picked Kislev, cause I liked the look of the Winged Hussars, but I really need to get more experience in the game to figure out how to use them effectively. I'm having great fun, though. Now I'm wondering, where would you put the Nippon faction? I do like the idea of having Tengus, Oni and Teppo Ashigaru in my army, that just sounds baller... but I wonder if they are any good. Then again, does it matter if the units are cool and you're having fun?

@iainmstanding Ай бұрын

@@h.a.9880 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6OamJuGmbZnmdksi=xTOPNPVUY4xdBcAe I'm glad you are having fun, and ive done a newer list with nippon and cathay.

@h.a.9880 Ай бұрын

@@iainmstanding Thank you!

@g0nk_droid Ай бұрын

Just getting into this game and these videos are invaluable!

@dmzedd77 Ай бұрын

Amazing battle report. Epic game!

@dmzedd77 Ай бұрын

Don't know how I missed this for so long! Epic (pun intended) battle report. I have wanted to get into Epic 40k in addition to playing Warmaster. I obviously prefer the larger scale battles!

@h.a.9880 Ай бұрын

I'm completely new to Warmaster, I picked Kislev cause the Winged Hussars look really cool... and even though I have no clue what I'm doing and getting the snot kicked out of me more often than not, I don't regret my choice at all. A successful charge of my Hussars fills me with glee and the warwagon is just so much fun to set up in a strategic place. I really need to get a hang of all my units though... or the game in general.

@dmzedd77 Ай бұрын

I need to fly to England and participate in this tournament next year! I shall bring the Flower of Bretonnian Chivalry with me.

@kingbitz Ай бұрын

Like it. More videos in the future?

@kingbitz Ай бұрын

Where are the wound markers from?

@iainmstanding Ай бұрын

@@kingbitz they are from advanced heroquest, a board game from the early 90s.

@kingbitz Ай бұрын

@@iainmstanding thanks

@g-monk2775 Ай бұрын

So happy to see such a great tournament. Wish I could have been there. I was surprised to see very few war machines. Thank you for sharing.

@greenskin3000 Ай бұрын

The flying skinks models at 21:19 blew my mind! So creative!

@sebastianhautamaki4439 2 ай бұрын

Love it!

@johnrohde5510 2 ай бұрын

If anyone wanted to add flyers to Witch Hunters, they could use analogue of Slovenian night flyers; Slav peasants who would fly in their dreams to repel flying demons from their villages - until high ups in the Church found out.