Warmaster: Rules Changes for 2023

[@iainmstanding]

Free Warmaster resources here; Warmaster Revolution rules and army lists; www.wm-revolution.com/articles/download.html Experimental rules forum here: wmrexperimental.freeforums.net/ Facebook page: facebook.com/groups/185937199904 Warmaster Podcast here; warmasterpodcast.podbean.com/

[@blackdragonminiatures]

Iain trying to reach out to you.

[@iainmstanding]

@@blackdragonminiatures I'll send you a fb message

[@joelw.3320]

Where can I find an invite link to the warmaster discord server?

[@iainmstanding]

@@joelw.3320 discord.gg/3yujPRaP

[@joelw.3320]

@@iainmstanding Thank you!

[@georgesutherlandhoward4417]

Really glad to see a positive result from the IP discussions. We can continue to grow this fantastic game and community with renewed confidence, while retaining much of the themes and aesthetics that make the Warhammer universe so iconic.

[@HomeDrone]

Previously, I would have credited you (Iain) for getting me into Warmaster, but it's great to know the other names of people who deserve as much credit for their dedication and work to keep this game thriving.

[@damianarvizu1095]

I am super happy about these changes. It corrected a glaring issue with 15cm shooting for chaos dwarves and ogres. I am also pleased with the general reduction for overly expensive monsters like giants and hydra. Keep up the effort!

[@uruk_bye1232]

So very appreciated. What a great community

[@jurgenwinter1157]

Great job from all! Thanks

[@iainmstanding]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@nicolaspintelon4329]

Changes seem logical! Great work done by a great community!

[@iainmstanding]

Much appreciated!

[@darkjeebs5807]

Thanks for this overview Iain - What a great time to be playing Warmaster!

[@iainmstanding]

Any time!

[@Cynidecia]

Strange that Bugmans Rangers aren't represented in regiments of renown. they seem quite worthy!

[@mrdelaney4440]

Nothing stopping you filling that void, create the unit within the basic framework in use and play test it. If it was me they would be a unit of dwarf rangers 20 points added on with +1 attack for the leaders stand and a list of who could and could not hire them. They would keep all ranger special rules.

[@Nuclear_Spider]

I’m excited by these changes. I’m been slowly getting into Warmaster and have been a longtime fan of Chaos dwarfs. It’s nice being able to field the earthshaker and the rocket together more easily

[@lorenzopalozza6279]

Good for you then that ForestDragon seems about to start releasing them on his patreon!

[@Nuclear_Spider]

@@lorenzopalozza6279 oh the timing is perfect! I love Forest Dragon and can’t wait to see what they make

[@herewardfeldwick8230]

Well this seems like good timing. I've just painted my first Warmaster unit, and have ordered a good deal more. I'm well on my way to 1000 points of Chaos. Perhaps within a year I'll be able to run a game!

[@newtpondskipper]

In the words of that fine Tilean Lady, Gossipa Alotta, "Those poor pikemen, they just flew too close to the sun." Other than that looks good and I appreciate all the work people have put into this. I especially loved seeing the Regiments of Renown as my Dogs of War already have several of these models.

[@TomMorrison-gk8wm]

Really appreciate the summary, great to see the ideas that were rejected as well. Are we to take it that the reduction of Goblin Spear Chukkas to -/1 was unintended?

[@iainmstanding]

You got it. Its been raised with the author

[@karelpasko2396]

Thank you for your videos🎉

[@iainmstanding]

Thank you for your comment!

[@damianarvizu1095]

Fantastic work!!!

[@iainmstanding]

Glad you think so!

[@Cynidecia]

Simply add Ind, Vampire Coast & Halflings & then i think that is every faction in warhammer fantasy represented! quite cool! unless i have missed something.

[@FJA---]

Thanks. I'll have to look at the Ogre and Wood Elf armies closer as I have both but rarely play them. Also I guess I'll get he Cathay and Nippon armies out of the trays. They're both primed and half based & half paint sticks so they've been started. Only thing about my Cathay is all the chariots are 4 horse so I need to find some 2 horse chariots.

[@Gladedancer]

Lovely breakdown with some exciting changes! Thank you for the video :)

[@iainmstanding]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jeromekammerer4733]

Love your work !

[@iainmstanding]

Thank you!

[@harec666]

The only think i will say is watching pizarro Lost legion i have remebered estalians fan made lists for fantasy seventh edition and makes me wonder how can a comunity present develomental list proposals as i can guarantee that hipothetical list would recieve a Lost of support in the young but growing spanish comunity

[@iainmstanding]

You can propose an estalian list on the experimental rules forum, see the link pinned to my comment at the top.

[@paboook]

Thanks to Ales and the rules committee for keeping WMR not just alive but also in the best condition it ever was 👏 Pity the Chaos knights remain at 200 points, perhaps sometimes in the future 😊

[@thescarletpumpernel3305]

surprised the flyer half pace move is only 10cm, I can only think the intention is that the fliers have landed so move at infantry speed? I guess an extra movement penalty to an already very mobie unit to help other units deal with them is fair enough.

[@oakleystactics579]

Al Muktar‘s Desert Dogs: These guys should be 75pts unless there is a special rule not mentioned in the Regiments of Renown. One suggestion for the Army lists is arrange them in alphabetical order ? may make it easier to find them? Great video as always.

[@iainmstanding]

Don't forget all RoR are 10 pts more than the equivalent unit.

[@oakleystactics579]

@@iainmstanding oh so its +1 shooting and combat attack?

[@iainmstanding]

@@oakleystactics579 only combat.

[@oakleystactics579]

@@iainmstanding Thanks for clarifying

[@salemchrist]

Thanks for the video overview. Loved your wood elf excitement ;) but I just noticed the Chaos Dwarf blunderbuss rule was a bit too copy/paste of the dwarf rule. There is no such troop called 'warriors' in the chaos dwarf list with which to substitute blunderbusses.

[@iainmstanding]

Good catch, will raise it.

[@polkadothippo6732]

Superb video No points reduction for Chaos Knights😕 Better dust off the Dragon Ogres

[@iainmstanding]

I tried! But maybe next time, with enough playtest evidence.

[@diegoparedes2138]

Great video!!! Thanks!!! 👏💪🍻

[@iainmstanding]

Glad you liked it!

[@saiharris]

Thanks for the breakdown

[@iainmstanding]

Any time!

[@christophevandeneynde4252]

Great job! Thanks

[@iainmstanding]

Glad you liked it!

[@samuelsesa9584]

you are the real masterwarmaster. thanks.

[@iainmstanding]

Glad to help

[@jasonbrisken8035]

I had a question about using the Empire Skirmishers for scouting. Since they are an addition to a parent unit. If skirmishers are used for scouting, and they win the scout role, will the Skirmishers and there parent unit be placed prior to the other army?

[@iainmstanding]

Yes, any unit or character you put forward for scouts have to be deployed if you win the roll, unless they can infiltrate.

[@nicolasventuro4198]

Great content as always! Could you expand a bit on why you say bears are now a good sweeper unit? What about their stats results in this?

[@iainmstanding]

You keep them behind your main line due to their lack of armour. From there they can jump on enemy flyers or cav that try to sneak around your flanks. They can also protect your missile infantry. Their high number of attacks make them ideal for swift counter strikes, but not prolonged engagements.

[@wagonmaker5509]

so pikemen now suck again. the 5+ armor save represented getting past an 18 foot pike, not the actual armor on the guy holding it. im sticking with the old rules.

[@iainmstanding]

Time will tell. I pushed hard for 5+ armour last year, but turns out I'm in the minority this year. I'll wait and see how the reduced cost works out this year.

[@Morachnyion]

So. Question , when did the goblins lose their second bolt thrower per thousand. I thought it was 2 per 1000 points? Or was it this version of the army list rules.

[@iainmstanding]

That is a typo, good spot.

[@Morachnyion]

I was like. Hey. You didn’t say the gobbos decreased. But I downloaded the edit today and it was back. So. Short ranged artillery park is still in. I mean. If you want to spend your points on bolt throwers.

[@topperdepop]

Great vid! Glad you guided us through all of this. Question: Are HE Reavers the only fast missile cav that is still 90 rather than 75pts?

[@iainmstanding]

Only light cav with 15cm range got the discount. Glade riders, Squires and Reavers did not.

[@topperdepop]

@@iainmstanding Ah, I see. Tyvm for quick response.

[@Cynidecia]

So should i hold off ordering a hardcover of the Warmaster rules until the fixes are made?

[@iainmstanding]

I would wait a week for the bugs to be rectified.

[@vanzongames]

Great video! Thanks for the hard work and in depth information. I watched the whole thing, so I’m pretty sure I didn’t miss it, but We’re their no changes to Vampire Counts?

[@iainmstanding]

Correct. No changes for vamps, empire or bretonnia.

[@vanzongames]

@@iainmstanding thank you for the quick reply! Much appreciated! I just watched your vampire count faction overview as I’m just starting on my journey into the game and have joined a slow grow group in Australia. Obviously my choice to start with is Vampire Counts. The info in that video was exactly what I needed. Thanks again for your videos. It makes the game much more accessible for new comers!

[@paulwinter1688]

Great changes to the Skaven list.

[@iainmstanding]

I think so too!

[@Morachnyion]

Actually. It was the previous rules but was not mentioned. I and others read it. Or. Was this a typo ? You didn’t mention it I. This video. Are they still supposed to have 2 bolt throwers?

[@andrewshaw3703]

So when can we expect you to redo all of your Fantastic army vids. Wouldn’t want anyone getting confused. 😁

[@hobgobbolo]

Thanks! :)

[@iainmstanding]

No problem!

[@christophersmith7704]

Question. Will there be an FAQ with any new updates for the rules for 2024?

[@iainmstanding]

Oh yes.

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

GW will be re-releasing Warhammer fantasy and Warmaster further down the line. Along with Epic 40k. So it benefits GW to have the community thriving while they build their game system and products. Also gives the fans who have put hundreds of not thousands of hours into existing system that GW essentially let die off. Until revived. So it works perfectly for both parties.

[@topperdepop]

Until you realise that GW will be at a scale no-one plays, like new Epic.

[@iainmstanding]

I sincerely hope GW do not re release warmaster.

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

@@iainmstanding It's in the pipeline from what I've heard. But I don't think it'll be Warmaster per say. Ideally I think GW would get a much better start and longterm interest doing warhammer fantasy/Warmaster blend in 15mm scale. Large armies, cheaper to get a arrmy, easier to move about than larger scales and still large enough to do a very good paint job.

[@Chnmmr]

Ah, GW threw a tantrum over a product they've abandoned and have no interest in reviving.

[@ja37d-34]

Amazing job..