Technically... They are getting a soft nerf. What that means is, a nerf that is indirect as a result of some other change that affects them by proxy. What is this soft nerf? It's the new weapon claas, Spear and Shield. Phalanx hits a lot of little times, building up a Spear and Shield's rage bar almost instantly, and their kick is more effective, the more units are packed together in close proximity, which Phalanx specifically are the highest unit count of any unit in the game, with such dense formations that one kick is basically guaranteed to hurt them all. In a similar vein, from PTR testing I've seen, the new T5 is going to be able to get past Phalanx as well. At least in the no doctrine fight, they win pretty handedly.
@Pearlio17 сағат бұрын
@ oh wow, thanks for the heads up! That settles it then, I need the new T5 lol.
@Pearlio18 сағат бұрын
Awesome, glad I discovered this conqueror’s blade channel! Makes me feel less alone playing the game haha
@ilu9170Күн бұрын
hmm idk looks a bit messy to be honest. i dont see "big issues" and it goes in the right direction but "meta means = most effective tactic aviable" and in that there is a lot of units, specially units who counter other meta units. Meta is: phalanx, iron reaper, silahadars, queen knights, paladins, xuanjia, companian cav, lionroar crew, siphos they all get played a lot because they all work good vs each other and very good vs "less strong" units and what is and what isnt meta is always based on the "who can kill who"; like when the Wuwei were really OP and everybody spammed them, palaceguards got meta because they counter them. OP is overpowered and should look at the value of a unit, as you said at the beginning rattanmarksman were overpowered but not because of what they did but for the cost, if they would have been a 300 leadership unit they would have been fine. So for OP we have Paladins and companion cav, since we get far far greater value out of them than what we should. An honorable mention would be the rattanpikemen who can trade 1v1 vlt most t5 inf units very well or the blue hellbards who are even in t4 lock the best cav counter. I like that you bring in special units, but tbf falcos are very very weak and there are reasons nobody plays them besides eSports with ban-system. Also very much like it that you dont rank ranged units high, but i would swap the feathered crossbowmen with the rattanmarksman, to a simple reason: the poison still lowers the damage and slowing, by-passes def stats. Maybe i´m too critical and i want to apologize if thats the case, its the first video i saw from you and i do like the style!
@AlanApogeeКүн бұрын
Good points. Tier lists are just not good at getting into the nuances between units, so I made this with Ranked in mind (aka, what to bring to win the game assuming you had only ~750 leadership). Quite a few people say ironcap scouts should at least be decent, while I agree they are great, when placed in a warband they use up ~100 leadership which makes filling out the rest a bit more complicated. At the end of the day, you can really just play 3 units per game, so filling in a T3/T2 unit means your not playing a T5 frontline instead. OP in my list means they need a nerf and are too good, so good that you must bring them regardless of your playstyle or their leadership value. While meta means game makers, aka units that decides what units the opposing team needs to bring. You don't change your unit selection b/c someone brought Iron reapers, but if someone brought around 2/3 phalanxes, you're not going to play cav, instead you're going to bring anti phalanx units and vise versa.
@aliup50002 күн бұрын
Remember this guy's if your team have 1 or 2 longbows don't bring more please, these days i know that am lossing the match before it start when i see all my teammates bringing longbow, i agree it's good unit but have 4 player of your team sitting in the back babysitting there units and shooting shield units it's just annoying and frustrating!
@dlsgusting6852 күн бұрын
It's unfair to rank units like this. New players will look at this and think "queens knights are in the same tier as halberdiers, they must be trash" a better way would be to make separate tier lists with respect to their era. This list is based solely on 1v1 with no hero involvement. Sure wuwi can solo every infantry, but with a well timed ult, many of the units in unplayable can beat them. Also i'd have to disagree with some of the ranking here ironcap scout cav can destroy a lot of infantry units whilst being a green unit imp archers do an unbelievable amount of damage with their bodkin arrows imp jav like archers, do an insane amount of damage, but with very limited ammo and decent in melee, meaning if you have a brain, blue units and below shouldn't be beating you bagpipers should be in specialty palace guards, 5 second cc immunity, means you can beat a lot of non shielded charging units like wuwei, and they can survive frontal cav charges zweihanders are good in big fights, especially with bot veterancy varangian counters phalanx chevaliers, are just hussars but worse fusiliers have insane attack speed and move speed imp muskets, great in blob fights imp spears are literal brick walls orochi are good, just run away from shields onna musha are glass cannons all these units should be at least decnt - good tier
@AlanApogee2 күн бұрын
Don't think your wrong here, but they are definitely not decent or good tier in APAC ranked. Since APAC actually has skill based ranked matchmaking unlike NA\EU, you can see what units become the favourable ones to get higher win ratios. So most of what you mentioned aren't played in Marshal ranked unfortunately. Units in niche are not bad, just that they are not good all the time compared to the decent ones.
@coreythefunnyguy3 күн бұрын
T5 Varangian is now meta. they counter all spear units and will curve stomp the phalanx. I get 60-80 kills per game using them.
@AlanApogee2 күн бұрын
Very interesting, I'll need to check up on them again, and they seem to do well against paladins
@VishwajeetVatharkar3 күн бұрын
I was never able to successfully play with T5 pike Phalanx unit
@AlanApogee3 күн бұрын
I'm working on a video about them, so maybe you'll get it once you see that one? I've been having quite a lot of success,but there's quite a lot of tricks to master
@Darkymster31913 күн бұрын
I agree with most of what you say but I would say Queen's Paladins are a better unit because of the speed they have you can pick your battles most of the time. As for Modao it's fun to use unit attire on them and enemy cavalry might think they are mace sergeants and charge into them.
@AlanApogee3 күн бұрын
Agreed, I did put QK a bit down since I didn't really play them myself and haven't really lost in a matchup. So I must be underestimating them somehow
@heoar12Күн бұрын
What kind of donkey would confuse modao with mace seargants?
@XajmaiКүн бұрын
@@AlanApogee Definitley should put Queens up there on the great tier. Their mobility and ability to deal high damage while being invulnerable shouldnt be underestimated.
@Roctech443 күн бұрын
12:44 I think you meant Prefecture heavy cavalry, they deal more dmg and get more base HP the more they kill
@AlanApogee3 күн бұрын
Ah damn, your right ><
@GamingDualities3 күн бұрын
bro I grinded for those Steelwards and now Tier list saying they barely playable XD
@Roctech443 күн бұрын
Sadly they're absolute garbage... Don't worry, they may get a mastery next season, they were an option to vote in the last mastery survey along with Fortebraccio and I doubt they won't get a mastery next
@AlanApogee3 күн бұрын
As Roctech said, a lot of the units in this game gets outdated fast. So if you want to get good results, you always need to keep up with the meta unfortunately
@michal62594 күн бұрын
I cant agree with most...
@AlanApogee3 күн бұрын
Care to elaborate? Tier lists are very subjective, and I'm always looking for niche things to play
@Druelno4 күн бұрын
u should do more of this, it is really good
@WaleedKhan-pe2fu5 күн бұрын
Amazing video. Can you do more units videos?
@jonh5375 күн бұрын
Trash game
@lodomirsniezny78479 күн бұрын
Now i wait till they update tsergs and im back to the game
@Belsarion10 күн бұрын
Awesome video, thank you!
@Jamppaaaa10 күн бұрын
how do you build longsword nowadays attribute wise, full health or armor ? TY
@AlanApogee10 күн бұрын
Still full armor, Paladins and IR have low AP so it still works. Not against Phalanxes though, they kill regardless of your hp/armor distribution.
@ox911 күн бұрын
@Raygenie12 күн бұрын
Yeah x-v wasn't working...Fingers cant dance across to keyboard to hit F1/2/3 .. so tapping X is the way :) . Finding with a charge damage doc can take down Phalanx unit :)
@AlanApogee12 күн бұрын
I'll give you a hint, you can edit the buttons to your mouse side buttons. That really helps easing your left hand's work
@XBoogeymanX12 күн бұрын
what do you think about the blue block doc? of course with dmg + block doc together. or would it be unnecessary because of the quick block recovery
@AlanApogee11 күн бұрын
It's alright, but not competitive. Since you want to do 10% more damage instead of taking more damage, the former keeps you alive in every battle, the latter might save you sometimes
@TheRogueJedii13 күн бұрын
Loving it Alan, hope you are back. I might return also for Sparta season, hope to see you there :)
@fianchampion427313 күн бұрын
yes the ending cover all the content update us I needs it XD
@voldigaming814 күн бұрын
bro zoom out pls ...
@Malchezaar777Күн бұрын
We are not in ranked of any sort. Zoomed in is a much better immersive experience
@adrianchew626014 күн бұрын
Op paladin
@fivelevels711514 күн бұрын
Welcome back!
@HiroeTV14 күн бұрын
Question Paladins or healing archers
@bizon412912 күн бұрын
Healing archers are useless
@HiroeTV12 күн бұрын
@@bizon4129 i know but im asking this guy to have his opininon
@bizon412912 күн бұрын
@@HiroeTV He will say the same, healing archers are kinda meh in anything then blue lock at the start of the season
@Shylittledummy14 күн бұрын
Welcome back 👌🏻👌🏻
@Maxikingallright9314 күн бұрын
at around 5:00 when you explained their counter mechanics, I am not sure if I understood it correctly. Are Paladins using (depleting) their block value, when counter attacking? If so, means more block = more damage? or did you just mean, you push your whole unit in spread the damage through the block of models, counter attack and get out before block breaking? Does the counter have an internal cool down?
@AlanApogee14 күн бұрын
Lets go over each question then. 1) They need to block an attack to counter attack, so blocking (which coincides with a reduction in block) results in a counter attack. No block, no counter. 2) Each counter hits at most 4 units per hit, so after blocking once they reach peak damage regardless of their blocked amount. 3) Increasing counter damage means making the enemy hit more paladins with their single attack, which triggers more paladins to counter attack, increasing the units total damage output. (This assumes the enemy has limited amount of hits they can do to you, so being hit more makes you do more back) 4) And yes, they have a cool down. Not sure how much, but it's roughly the same as their auto attack ~1s to 2s An example is, each iron reaper can hit 5 targets. If a unit of IR hits 1 paladin, that one paladin can hit 4 iron reapers in return. If an iron reaper hits 5 units, the 5 paladins would counter with 20 hits total back. So stacking up makes the counter attacks more lethal, or put simply, more units can attack back at the same time.
@HiroeTV14 күн бұрын
let him cook
@very_svensk210215 күн бұрын
ALAN FANBOIS ASSEMBLEEE! (Also zoom out your camera. I get seasick) 😢
@Darkymster319115 күн бұрын
I see that you can make use of their blocks more by formation spam to swap the frontlines. Good to know. Great video man.
@pedzod176115 күн бұрын
What mastery buff about them any other info pls
@AlanApogee15 күн бұрын
The mastery is the buff, or are you asking for the mastery details?
@pedzod176114 күн бұрын
@@AlanApogee yep other like do more dmg to spear or something.
@waughy910315 күн бұрын
Glad you're back!
@nutty961415 күн бұрын
This shit is a jumpscare man you just appear out of nowhere again lmao
@Jerrockz15 күн бұрын
welcome back.
@bsxnoob983515 күн бұрын
hey there i'm glad that you are back 😄
@BigBowl917 күн бұрын
How relevant is this observation in current season? Im coming back from quitting at the start of samurai season. I mained maul for like 99% of my game time. So i wanted to try a completely different class and its funny to admit but i dont lift up my shield often
@AlanApogee17 күн бұрын
It hasn't changed at all really, the previous nerf took out some armor buffs from their heal but your going to use it anyway. Just know the current burst meta can get you killed fast, so staying alive is more important than anything. But I bet you know how from playing Maul already.
@BigBowl917 күн бұрын
@@AlanApogee Thanks for the response and video. its weird seeing these new meta's due to mastery's since that was a newish mechanic being introduced when i quit. I did live for a long time as maul but that was becuz i was unga bunga master and smash enemies away from me. I wonde rhow id fair as maul now with this kind of meta.
@AlanApogee16 күн бұрын
@@BigBowl9 Still works, as some meta units are block focused. But definately harder due to the higher burst, aka Phalanxes and Shilidars being able to one shot
@BigBowl915 күн бұрын
@@AlanApogee I'm surprised im seeing silahdars again. Im doing decent with reapers and just to fuck with the shield meta ( reminiscent of when stalwarts were everywhere ) my zykalian and siphonari's and just burn everything. I've improved my gameplay tremendously because of your video so thanks a ton.
@BobInGreekАй бұрын
pls update this with myrmilones etc
@italofreitas78792 ай бұрын
With Valor used to be the most damaging skill of the longsword. What changed?
@alikaradan42663 ай бұрын
I started playing recently. Which units u suggest for playing with ? I'm just 45 levels which units should i focus to level up ?
@AlanApogee3 ай бұрын
You should aim for Man at arms and Iron reapers first, they are relatively easy to get and use. For details, best join: discord.gg/eGy5SCc24P
@Kevi_N73 ай бұрын
A cura da espada longa e escudo ainda funciona nas tropas ? Eu curo as minhas tropas, porém não aparece os números de curas
@Hitabet19953 ай бұрын
Dude can you think back for Cb ❤ we need this.
@zacknoxim18473 ай бұрын
keep up the good work
@ferdinandchan50385 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm technically a beginner in the game and i can't find any reliable information about "reconditioning" If equipment status is at Poor or very poor is there a way to return it back to excellent? I don't have option for "recondition" in armourer which i dont know if there's a condition for it. I hope you could help me.
@AlanApogee5 ай бұрын
This you need to press P and there will be an option to fix your armor on the very right of the screen
@ferdinandchan50385 ай бұрын
@@AlanApogee I notice that this doesn't fix the condition of equipments. So if it hits very poor, you have no other choice but to create a new weapon?
@AlanApogee5 ай бұрын
Ah ok, yep, you'll need to recondition or reforge it. Best reforge and lock a stat
@LancerTheGrey6 ай бұрын
thank you! every time I saw video about favorite weapon I desire to try it :) Kitowec inspire on nodashi. Author on long sword ) didt belive that it could happend with me and LS... that is a miracle of inspiration basic on true love :) we need more such true love videos about all weapons
@Svensky6 ай бұрын
My man. What about half armor and hp? Only way to play is full armor? or 4/1 hp 4/3 armor
@AlanApogee6 ай бұрын
Armor gets better the more there is, if you just want defense it's the way to go. But if you want other atk attributes just go with any mix of hp and that attribute. That being said, Armor isn't too great with Wuwei around debuffing armor by 400... That is if you live in the first place either way. Best is not to take fights you can't win
@Svensky6 ай бұрын
@@AlanApogee thanks
@agu1753 ай бұрын
@@AlanApogeehey! Any chance we can get a quick little update? I’m sure it takes a loooong time to gather and test through all this info. But maybe a little 5 min update on what’s viable now? As a noobie new to the game, I look up to you, and an update would help massively. Also, heal got nerfed a week or two ago. How bad was it in your expert eyes? Thanks a million for the vid! U da best <3
@Nemesis-b5z6 ай бұрын
What is the stat distribution?
@AlanApogee6 ай бұрын
Try full armor, if you don't like it use hp and atk attribute mix
@irkengir49947 ай бұрын
muchas gracias brother
@Zeratul35988 ай бұрын
Says to check out some other video, but doesn't even link it anywhere, just lazy man! Power to you, but don't be lazy!
@AlanApogee8 ай бұрын
My mistake then, can you tell me which video you're searching for? I'm assuming the attribute guide.