Thank you for all the good information. I am a dual blade player so i cant use them like you do. But i just sent the video to a friend of mine who plays longsword. He is going to find this very interesting too
@SuperKitowiec2 жыл бұрын
It works well with nodachi so it could work with db too ;)
@popfu72282 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this guide I had no idea they were this op. One game after watching this vid I got 130 unit kills in the first 5 min. 9 zerkers, 42 grey hairs and 18 reapers being the most notable
@cursedkei662 жыл бұрын
Yeap, it seems counterintuitive to avoid using skills except as buffs, but man, the difference was huge. The swap strike allowed me to destroy IRs and even RJs.
@gustavocontar4812 жыл бұрын
Very Nice, Dahaka here, i show all your vídeos on espada forest, thanks for everything
@akazad94532 жыл бұрын
Your unit explanation is very detailed. It is more comprehensive than the video I made. It has been recommended to Taiwan players for reference. I hope more unit introductions will be released in the future.
@czomolungma0224 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, after watching this I played some testing games using your tips and managed to get 200 kills just on maidens in two games in a row
@somerandombumframe43602 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. If you didn't already know, there's a neat little trick you can do with the charge on top of everything else. If they're a little too beat up but your teams still actively pushing, short charge them back into your allies for the damage buff, then immediately swap to spear. The charge gives every model the red buff they get for using Triple Strike or just attacking with swords, regardless of whether or not they hit anything, and swapping to spear while they're glowing heals a fairly significant chunk of their hp instantly. Add in LS heal, you can basically burst heal them and then immediately follow your team forward, and since they're back in spear, you're also set to get CC back up and swap to swords on the closest enemy hero. The versatility of applications they have is insane.
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the charge counts as an attack and the buff just requires the unit to be attacking. So 8% heal every half minute, add on LS 10% every 20s, that's about 50% every minute. It's really good indeed
@wackoking55592 жыл бұрын
Amazing guide! Had no idea SM can stay in CC with swords. Thank you so much! I just wish the guardian doctrine was still available to get :/
@klaasvaak25752 жыл бұрын
it is for me as an event
@Alces.02 жыл бұрын
Underrated video. Keep up the good work!
@diggles272 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the advice, I switched my unit up and have been leading my team to Victory with shieldmaidens. Especially like being able to murder Berserkers with no units lost
@ThousandYearWinter2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I was struggling to figure out the best way to use shieldmaidens with everything they can do so thanks
@yuliusjrt99172 жыл бұрын
You’re finally back! Awesome vid btw, didn’t know about the shieldmaidens sword switch tip.
@kristiyanayvazov2552 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide! I am finally able to get games with 150+ unit kills with them and my SM are level 14. Do not use tripple strike cuz they die instantly.
@TheRogueJedii2 жыл бұрын
Great video man! You can also use charge and cancel it before they move too far, to buff ally damage :) could be useful in some circumstances
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Yep and switching mid charge gives them 8% heal automatically.
@next63262 жыл бұрын
Finally a good Shield Maiden guide, keep up the good work!. What stats do u allocate for long sword? and btw can sally forth stop cav charge like clash of shields?
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm full armor with all armor runes too. Sally forth can stop cav but not as efficiently as clash of shields but it can stop heroes and stun lock them
@next63262 жыл бұрын
@@AlanApogee Good to know, that bud.
@Shylittledummy2 жыл бұрын
I got 80 unit kills and 7 hero kills with shieldmaiden. Thanks for the guide video. ❤️
@DontLookBackPewDie Жыл бұрын
Alan please do one for Palace guards or Tseregs or Azaps... I'm in love with these units despite the meta... But can't pick my fights right. :/
@asdepik68462 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I just wanted to ask if I was doing some stuff right with them. I go in with the team, but the difference is where I spam my weapon swap to get as much damammmge and health recovery as possible. Am I doing the right thing or should I juste keep using swords and sometimes spear for movement / buff?
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
You should try both really, I don't switch enough due to my playstyle so I can't say for sure
@danielchao60412 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on Azaps.
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
They worth playing right now? Heard they got a very heavy nerf last time they got updated
@danielchao60412 жыл бұрын
@@AlanApogee Yea, they are so bad right now. It was my favorite unit.
@MOSHE2222 жыл бұрын
hey, are you sure that using their shield bash in sword mode (triple strike) cancels cover commander? because they still follow me around after using it.
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can check by switching back to spear. If you used triple strike you will see cc not toggled. Sword cc has better AI and quite a few other perks so I recommend staying in sword cc
Жыл бұрын
Great guide but gotta ask if this information is still valid? Since there have been changes constantly to SM?
@AlanApogee Жыл бұрын
Mostly yes, but their charge doesn't give a atk buff
@apslar37432 жыл бұрын
Ty for another great video :)
@menaceflame2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the Guardian cooldown Doctrine bro?
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
It was a seasonal quest that's not available now, you'll need to wait for an event to get it again
@lightningchegg48232 жыл бұрын
I’m a Nodachi so yes, I’m also a longsword player.
@pedzod17612 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that cover commander still active even change weapon.
@TheRogueJedii2 жыл бұрын
What are your stats with Longsword? BTW good luck with your game :)
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Full armor even runes
@liquidw85852 жыл бұрын
Hey Alan, I use to think that the temporary quest to get doctrines like the 5 second cool down on shield maidens was limited to that season. However I can still do the shenji quest to get their extra doctrine but is way past the dynastic season now. When I unlocked the shield maidens I didn't do the temporary quest to get that doctrine (5 second guardian cool down). Do you think there's any way I can get it now? What would you recommend as an alternative doctrine
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
I don't recommend both the cd reduction, it's rare when they are necessary. The 100 def, the 400 block, and breakthrough are quite mandatory. The rest I have leadership and breakthrough right now
@ShiddySushi2 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the difference between the Spear CC over the Sword CC? I know you have mentioned that using it removes it when you switch back, but both their behavior and the description (I know how good their descriptions are) have been changed to stay in CC after using Triple Strike. Even though it isn't toggled when you switch back, does it still behave the same after the ability is used? It seems to act the same, but I haven't had time to properly test this out myself.
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
They act quite differently, with post triple strike cover commander being less aggressive and more weak to crowd control. You can try them both in expeditions to see the difference yourself
@ShiddySushi2 жыл бұрын
@@AlanApogee That's good to know. I always thought the problem with Triple Strike was that it only affected maidens close enough to enemies and forced them to move into that unit, which makes them super vulnerable even without the change in AI behavior.
@johantamin96712 жыл бұрын
Which one to unlock first in your opinion? Shieldmaiden or varangian for longsword player? Btw good tips for the shieldmaiden
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Shield Maidens play similar to LS while VG are more medium weapon like timing wise. I'm just not really vibing with VG right now and using it is counter intuitive for LS who wants long lasting units to heal while their single/double use units.
@pronumeral14462 жыл бұрын
Lmao the lack of collision in this game and the way the camera moves, makes it looks like a chaotic mess.
@popfu72282 жыл бұрын
What attributes are you running with your longsword?
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Fall armor, warcry is 30% hp def buff and dmg reduction. Basically full armor tank
@Inconcluesive2 жыл бұрын
Would this work for SS?
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@LiamMills-nu8uz2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@whiteghost38062 жыл бұрын
What are your attributes? Full armor or toughness? Edit: great vid btw
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
I'm full armor LS right now, but any combination works well this season. Last season it was full armor due to a specific armor rune.
@undeadkitty3342 жыл бұрын
Good video
@lehoaisonsss7132 жыл бұрын
thank you .
@Fflintiii2 жыл бұрын
Parasite is the wrong word to use as it does not give benefits to the host. I would call it a symbiotic relationship with other units as you give them buffs and assist them fighting basically like Venom.
@KetherTV2 жыл бұрын
gj ty
@StanleyJohnny2 жыл бұрын
You are basically trolling by not using Epic Spear Doctrine III (which give +100 to all defenses).
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
I did eventually switch back to it, but it wasn't that good. Since SM rely on block for survival more than effective hp, I'd rather have 5cd cooldown on guardian so there's more 250 def uptime
@ilovetribe20942 жыл бұрын
WOW.lol you so crazy
@Sibu90792 жыл бұрын
Are you full of top line? sir
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
Full bottom for that 30% AP node
@daasrayan5332 жыл бұрын
weak worthless unit i followed your advice. yeah i saw some improvement better than how i used them in the past but iam still losing a t5 unit to t4 berserkers or claymore... i dont know about you friend but for me the play style of Short maiden isnt for me at all. i wish other best of luck but dont expect much of them.
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
They should beat berserkers in a 1v1 quite easily, might be enemy heroes crowd control adding up or VG's which have been dominating melee combat lately. But hey, if it's not working for you, just remember that SM are really good at expeditions and bandit raids so there's still that.
@SABER_Knight-King2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen all the video yet but seriously wtf are you doing in the fight at the first minute? why don't you charge? don't you know that they get 20% dmg buff when you charge? also why you are not spamming Triple Strike during the fight? you haven't use it once when since the revamp it makes great dmg & the cd is very short & you can literally spam it during a fight, I have seen just the start of the video & it was really painful to watch.. So after watching all the video I can't say that this was a SM guide as much as it was how you play the game yourself & your way of playing SM is boring as fuck, so your advice is to always have them near units & use them as a buff bot, that's your advice right? no thx
@AlanApogee2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say you're wrong, but I recommend trying it out yourself before judging. I was also under the impression that triple strike is the way when I started playing SM after the buffs... but you can't beat other T5 without losing at least a few units that way.
@SABER_Knight-King2 жыл бұрын
@@AlanApogee You can very well kill other T5 units by charging & spamming Triple Strike but not with that terrible doctrine setup you have there you have wasted 3 doctrine slot just to max their blocking capability & reduce the Guardian cd & you even skip the Spear Defense doctrine seriously? what do you think is a siege? Expedition III ? are you under the impression that you are gonna leave them on a spot on formation to keep blocking incoming dmg? is that your great plan of playing SM? well let me tell you that's a terrible plan my friend & your doctrine choices are terrible, no look if you wanna use them as buff bots & as a shield wall then I guess that's a good plan but something tells me that your kill count will always be low the way you play them.
@Hassel-2 жыл бұрын
Let this comment remain and take away the answers. In that way it will take ppl longer to realize how good it is :)
@SABER_Knight-King2 жыл бұрын
@@AlanApogee Let me show you the right way to play SM in a less than 3 minutes gameplay kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2fMp6Z7ebV1sMk that's the right way to play SM this is for you & anyone else who want to see the light :P
@sikandarCB2 жыл бұрын
Man, If you dont like to support and like to go ahead and try to kill everiting, dont use ShieldMaidens. Maybe a Sildahars is a better unit for you.