Here is a link! Grab this deal while it lasts!! amzn.to/3Tj11Vo
@user-hu1um2xk5hКүн бұрын
The price of solar cables is cheap. It's one of the cheapest parts of the entire system. The batteries are the real expense. And they are extremely heavy and take up a lot of space. If 48 volts is just as cheap, simple and easy as a 12 volt system then what would be the point of having any other system besides 48 volts?
@TackleThatКүн бұрын
For sure, it all adds up. As I mentioned, 12v is popular and serves most small applications. We will see things switching to 48v more and more, Tesla just did for their car accessories. I also see group 24 48v 25ah (small) batts now, I have one on the way for an ebike... Everything on the bike (lights, motor, controller and accessories) will run natively on 48v. We are pushing the future, just like when 12v replaced 6v. Only takes time.
@stevenshircliff393Күн бұрын
Great video! Doesn't make sense that 4 is more expensive than 2 2 packs
@TackleThatКүн бұрын
Thank you!! Yeah, not sure either! Seems their deals switch around...
@303nitzubishi42 күн бұрын
I'm running 24v now but will be rewiring to 48 when my current battery setup poops out. I'm struggling to find efficient regulated step down transformer to reduce the 48v nom. down to a useable 12v nom. Any suggestions? There are cheapO stepdowns readily available but they don't seem to have much if any filtering of PWM from the charge controller, I'm concerned about putting that high frequency directly into my TV, roku, or mini PC
@TackleThatКүн бұрын
Nice!! How many 12v amps you need? These are popular; amzn.to/4e7DWO1 think the goal is to reduce any 12v devices if you can... Or you can have another 12v batt that gets charged via the 120v ac for your 12v stuff.
@edgarandreasyan5212 күн бұрын
I thought ur not supposed to power those controllers on with the battery first. Solar first then battery
@TackleThat2 күн бұрын
Other way around... Always want your Batteries connected first..
@1GREATDANE2 күн бұрын
2/0 Battery Cables 🙌
@TackleThat2 күн бұрын
Lol, wish I could be pushing that many amps! I'm at like 50a, 4awg is plenty.
@hedleypepper18382 күн бұрын
I do wish when the title says "cheapest on Amazon" the video would start with the price 😢
@hedleypepper18382 күн бұрын
Just googled it and in the UK 🇬🇧 they are £449.00. Not a bad price that's like £224.50 each for 2 100Ah 12.8 v batteries
@TackleThat2 күн бұрын
Good point!! They are $350 each - $699 for 2. Also, These are 48v 50ah each.. so 2x 48v 50ah would equal 4x 12v 100a.
@souvyyy_sf3 күн бұрын
The stock 36volt from a mx500 won’t direct bolt on? You need a bracket?
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
Correct, you need a cradle or 'feet' to mount on the mx350.
@rocktech71443 күн бұрын
Save in copper .......4x battery cost. I use 24 volt. Still save on copper and only 2x battery cost.
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
If you are calculating 4x the cost, it's likely 4x the power too... Use watt hours to calculate the difference not AH, you'll see.
@combatclifton3 күн бұрын
Even 24v is better than 12v the current draw is almost halved higher the voltage the less current needed
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
Very true! I am considering 24v for the RV AC... Should work well and less batteries to manage in series over 48v.
@autobodycare90234 күн бұрын
Send the link for that display on the batteries u got
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
Sure! This is the one I have been loving: amzn.to/3MxGsRq
@SadowMan12314 күн бұрын
update: i got a sx500 with a 48volt vevor kit and one single scud 48volt 14ah battery. wondering if you noticed a big enough difference going to a fardrive from stock vevor controller? or should i just save my money for a qs165 or "the one" motor and stay with vevor controller.
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
FD is a whole lot better... But youll have to get another scud in parallel to pull more than 30a.. 2 will give you 60a which is a whole lotta fun with a FD.
@paulhannah40616 күн бұрын
Will you have a parts list? I like that extension for swing arm and I want to run 14 12 but not much info on how people do it.
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
For sure! Ill post all the details!
@TackleThat6 күн бұрын
48v/51.2v DC HOUSE 50ah Batteries on sale here: amzn.to/3TbUsDT
@user-fy7ru4ii1i6 күн бұрын
Your whole argument is based off the gauge of wire? What about performance?
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
Well in this short, sure... Lot of other benefits too! Converting 48v to 120v is a lot easier for the inverter, more efficient. Plus more!
@harrison00xXx7 күн бұрын
Both! A "big" 48V LFP block and a suited PV module setup, and a step down/buck converter going into a basic 12V lead acid/AGM battery for your 12V stuff. 48V systems are just so much more capable and especially efficient when thinking about >500W PV modules and bigger power consumption (such as electric cooking etc) When it comes to home storage, our 15 kW peak PV system with 10 kW storage has a internal battery voltage of about 600-700V depending on the charge level and voltage from the modules.
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
Love this setup!! Thats how to do it.
@vTxPeter7 күн бұрын
Hey do you have a link to buy your pig tail?
@TackleThat3 күн бұрын
Check out hotpaxx.com, they have all the good stuff!!
@richardwebb62678 күн бұрын
Copper doesn't ever go bad. Your equipment will! And you pay more for 48 volt equipment if you can even find any. 12 volt equipment is available everywhere! I am not impressed with this video at all!
@TackleThat7 күн бұрын
In the solar world 48v is popular for anything 3000w and higher... It really all depends on what you are trying to do. It gets silly to use juggernaut wire on 12v, when your whole system would be more efficient at 48v. 12v at 3000w is 250a.. good luck running that size copper 🙃. There are whole product lines that are 48v.. check out eg4, solark and grow watt.
@lawrencedavidson61954 күн бұрын
@@richardwebb6267 lots of 48v equipment is available on Amazon.
@CarlosSolano-di9eg8 күн бұрын
What is the battery connector?
@TackleThat8 күн бұрын
It's called a QS8 anti spark!
@alexF22R10 күн бұрын
what was the top speed
@TackleThat10 күн бұрын
I never clocked it, its already undergoing surgery for next upgrades! But maybe 20 at the most.
@DescartesRenegade10 күн бұрын
I have a total of 15 toys. A few hung on the wall cause i ran out of floor space. All 72v-52v and fully built. From dune bugyy to razor dirt bikes to bombmotos, quads, and even the razor sitdown scooters.
@TackleThat8 күн бұрын
Dang! that's quite a collection... I've sold off all the gas bikes, and added another electric... just can't pass up good deals hahaha!
@PhysicsViolator11 күн бұрын
48 volts all the way. On 12-24 you’re limited by efficiency losses and inverter heating up…
@TackleThat11 күн бұрын
So true!!
@andrewdonnelly18011 күн бұрын
What was the overall weight?
@TackleThat8 күн бұрын
I should weigh it, but I would estimate around 50lbs for now.
@Tumbleweed515011 күн бұрын
The fact that they only recommend paralleling 4 of these in a system means I won't buy them, even though the price is great. However, for a small to mid-size system, they will be great!
@TackleThat11 күн бұрын
Wonder why that is... We should be able to parallel as many as we want.
@Tumbleweed515011 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat I don't know. Most rack batteries can be paralled way more. EG4s, for example. I have seen someone build a system with four or five six-battery cabinets.
@TackleThat11 күн бұрын
@@Tumbleweed5150 ya, I plan on hooking up more than 4 lol... 2 DC house batts on their way.
@Tumbleweed515011 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat If it were me, I would try to contact the company and find out why they have that limit. They may say that it is only for smaller systems and the BMS can't handle larger systems. Or they may tell you that it is okay, as long as you fuse the batteries/battery banks after a certain number of batteries in parallel, so it cannot overload wires or the BMSs. Just to say, I would want to know for sure before exceding their printed limit. Oh...after watching this again, I noticed that on the initial sheet you held up, it said 4s1p, yet in the manual, it looked like you could go as much as 4s4p. Again, you may want to ask the company about this discrepency. One or another could be a mis-print, or they included a manual that is for more than one type of battery. Usually, battery companies say that 12.8 Volt batteries can be hooked in 4s4p, but most rack batteries I have seen say not to series the rack batteries, as the BMSs aren't designed for it, and they will offer you a rack battery that is the proper Voltage for the system you want.
@hectorgallegos192611 күн бұрын
Are tjere inverters 24v and 48v?
@TackleThat11 күн бұрын
Sure! 12v, 24 and 48 are very popular, with lots of charger and inverter options.
@NorthernRestoration-rk4cu12 күн бұрын
48v is efficient but expensive
@TackleThat11 күн бұрын
Yeah, a little more... With batteries you have to compare watt hours to watt hours, you will see its not that much more. Sometimes it's the same, like the eg4 batteries.
@Mark-p1q12 күн бұрын
Hey, do you know where I can get a good fit xt60 connector with the 6mm fit o rings
@TackleThat11 күн бұрын
Something like this? Amazon has a lot of options.. amzn.to/3AOLfeo
@gertjanvandermeij426513 күн бұрын
*Totally wrong ! TWO 24 volt battery's ( truck battery's in serie ) the really the best !* So much better, than your single 48 volt battery ! Believe me !
@TackleThat12 күн бұрын
24 is solid, some good options there... Just depends on how big your system needs to be!
@VoltBikeEV14 күн бұрын
even aftermarket 6€ moped sprockets have perfect fit if comparing sprockets which come with motor.. dont waste 45$ on lithium king stuff
@TackleThat14 күн бұрын
Nice, thank you!!
@VoltBikeEV14 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat Yeah added short about it but idk where you can find same size sprockets but cheap ones can be good too✌
@FabioDirt15 күн бұрын
Is the controller and motor kit from Amazon you used is similar to hotpaxx one?
@TackleThat15 күн бұрын
The one on amazon is a little smaller FD controller, but matches the motor better. Really shouldn't be pushing these motors past 80a, which is what the amazon controller pushes. 100a on hotpaxx, you will need the heat sink and to watch your temps for sure.
@FabioDirt14 күн бұрын
What do u think I have 48v hotpaxx battery will I be fine?
@TackleThat14 күн бұрын
@@FabioDirt the 120a continuous? Sure will be.
@RobertDeloyd15 күн бұрын
48V will kill you if you don't know what you're doing... 12v nah not problem unless someone drops the battery on your head..
@TackleThat15 күн бұрын
If you don't know what you are doing you should stay away from both voltages, lol. They both can be dangerous.
@daverohn38315 күн бұрын
The higher the input voltage, the higher the efficiency.
@TackleThat15 күн бұрын
Right on!
@delancelloyd778116 күн бұрын
The small connect is linked to the BMS… so as the battery is charging, is regulating each string inside with equal voltage
@TackleThat16 күн бұрын
Right on! Just dont know why its 8v on the charge port rather than 52v like the discharge port..
@UKsystems16 күн бұрын
I kind of feel like you missed out something there are a lot of other voltage levels you can do and also many inverters have a input range which bit within that it can be okay
@TackleThat16 күн бұрын
Great point, thanks!
@303nitzubishi42 күн бұрын
12, 24, 36, 48 are all "nominal" voltages. Inverters and PV charge controllers do specify a range of voltages but these are to accommodate momentary voltage "sag" during a high-load motor start on an inverter, and voltage "peaks" on the PV side when the batteries are nearing fully charged and the PV controller starts to really regulate/reduce voltage below the actual output of the panels.
@UKsystemsКүн бұрын
@@303nitzubishi4 however it needs to specify nominal voltage because otherwise certain piece of equipment are reference to the DC voltage for what the AC voltage is especially on cheap ones. It’s unlikely that it requires us specific voltage but there is definitely a chance that it could be designed that way which is quite important to know it could also potentially be a minimum voltage or a maximum voltage especially the product is made in another country and designed there and things have been translated potentially not to the best level.
@HonorPizarro16 күн бұрын
And where do I get that battery is the other one doesn’t work
@HonorPizarro16 күн бұрын
Do I have to get this exact battery or can I get a different one because there this other battery called caomm battery
@TackleThat16 күн бұрын
Hi there! This is an amorge battery. You can email [email protected] for more details. Coamm are also really popular, lots of positive reviews amzn.to/3SZuQtP if you dont want to wait about a month, coamm are a good solution.
@HonorPizarro16 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat but can the caomm battery work with this motor kit
@TackleThat16 күн бұрын
@@HonorPizarro yeah but you will have to turn down the controller to 30a... Or you can put 2 batteries together and do 60a which is where the fun really starts
@HonorPizarro15 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat how would I do that
@TackleThat15 күн бұрын
@@HonorPizarro just need a Y adapter to go 2 batteries to 1 controller in parallel.
@Deno407617 күн бұрын
You’re the man! Thank you very much for tackling that. Subscribed!
@TackleThat17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub! 😁😁
@Deno407615 күн бұрын
@@TackleThatif I wanted to put a converter in this setup, would I just go from battery to converter then converter to terminal?
@DHardWorker17 күн бұрын
I Like 24V 😊
@turtlewax218 күн бұрын
I got 500 bucks. Can I buy a complete used kit for a Sx500 from you, please?
@TackleThat17 күн бұрын
Wish I had a spare to sell ya!
@f.noggle18 күн бұрын
Did you do springs in the front, or a whole new fork?
@TackleThat17 күн бұрын
Whole new fork, real pit bike forks are much smoother.
@Deno407618 күн бұрын
Very great video. How would I wire a headlight with on /off switch? Been looking but still seems somewhat confusing
@TackleThat18 күн бұрын
Thanks!! Just wire the headlight up to the + and - on the controller if you have a headlight that can handle the Volts of your battery. Put a switch anywhere on the + lead to turn it on and off as needed.
@Deno407618 күн бұрын
@@TackleThatThank you. Good idea, I’ll do some research on lights for 72v battery.
@TackleThat18 күн бұрын
@@Deno4076 i got a video coming soon on how I wire mine up!
@Deno407618 күн бұрын
@@TackleThatawesome.
@TackleThat17 күн бұрын
Here is how I wire my stuff up, check it out! Thanks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ-1lIhuhcZmm9E
@MelonoKat18 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, I’m engineering my own e bike from scratch and haven’t found a quick concise guide like this. Much love!
@TackleThat18 күн бұрын
Cool to hear, thanks for the feedback!!
@ashnfrank1018 күн бұрын
Just go to your local junkyard and get battery cables that runs to starter and grown from a diesel truck. Payed like 20 dollars
@TackleThat18 күн бұрын
Nice idea! Thanks!
@BlessedDad181920 күн бұрын
Can i use the two 48v 15ah scud batteries to make that setup like you have on the yellow and grey bike?
@TackleThat20 күн бұрын
For sure! Just hook them up in parallel, + to + and - to -
@BlessedDad181919 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat sweet, i have two on the way from shrimp depot. Do you have a video on that build?
@TackleThat19 күн бұрын
@@BlessedDad1819 is it an MX? Only difference is you need to cut out the middle battery tray so it looks like the SX in this video.
@BlessedDad181919 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat i have the sx500
@BlessedDad181919 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat just wondering the build details on that yeller one
@Fixedgearr20 күн бұрын
Hey man what did you do with the white wire? I wanted to use a motor without a temperature sensor, when I wired it up the app showed a temp sensor error. Could not get passed it
@TackleThat20 күн бұрын
Just set the temp sensor in the app to none and you are good!
@Fixedgearr20 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat wow man I could have saved myself swapping motors. I’m gonna try that if I have any issues with this one. Thanks!
@Ghxstbxy_z20 күн бұрын
Does this kit come with that red power wire?
@TackleThat20 күн бұрын
I dont think so, but hotpaxx does sell it too.
@paultech938521 күн бұрын
I’ve been watching many of these videos and they all suffer the same thing … detail. I would recommend a white board and as you add components draw the wire indicating its size.
@TackleThat21 күн бұрын
Good point, thank you for your feedback! The next video will definitely have more details.
@MoM-ur4yg22 күн бұрын
Did you manage to find the problem? I have the same issue.
@TackleThat22 күн бұрын
Never did unfortunately, 😭, went far driver and had a lot more luck. Still had issues with an orange wire Kunray... So I don't use those much.
@MoM-ur4yg21 күн бұрын
@@TackleThat. I just figured mine out, I connected the thick motor green wire with the controller thick blue (motor phase/green to blue and blue to green from the motor to the controller) and in the hall line/controller 5 wire swap/connect yellow to blue (motor side 5 wire to controller 5 wire /colors, red, black, yellow,green & blue. Connect blue to yellow and yellow to blue) this worked for me. 3000watt 72v controller. Good luck!
@TackleThat21 күн бұрын
@@MoM-ur4yg thank you!! I hope that helps others too!
@jeffhembre442217 күн бұрын
@@MoM-ur4ygthanks for this. I did as you did and it worked as well. I still don’t have the bike together( I’m waiting for new shocks) can you totally tell a difference from 36v to 48v ? Or should I have went straight to a 72v?
@MoM-ur4yg13 күн бұрын
@@jeffhembre4422 yes I have all, 36v 48v & 72v you will definitely notice the difference.. if you are on a budget 48v 2000w it worked fine for me with the right gear ratio( I’m 270lb) 72v has reverse and 3 speeds is fast as hell on my mega moto. I didn’t purchase a battery for it yet/too expensive I’m saving the money for it, I am running 12v emergency exit sing batteries on it.
@user-ou6kq1gk6x23 күн бұрын
top speed sorry for the lot of questions
@TackleThat22 күн бұрын
All good!!
@user-ou6kq1gk6x22 күн бұрын
U avoiding the top speed pls tell me I need the top speed
@user-ou6kq1gk6x24 күн бұрын
Love the build your way more experienced than i am how fast did it go and how long did the battery upgrade take u
@TackleThat22 күн бұрын
Took maybe 20m if I wasn't filming everything lol. Its simple, cut out the old batteries, tie in the new ones with proper crimps and connectors! And go!